okay you should be good to go all righty so welcome everyone and i'd like to call the meeting for the parks and recreation advisory board uh to order here at 601 um let's do first introductions i'm cassie mcluhan chair for district one as well and then let's do robert robert harrison district two megan good evening megan schuler district six stan [Music] uh stan ingle district four and if staff could introduce themselves hazel go ahead hazel nevada's office manager senior i'm recording secretary kathy kathy matthews landscape architect bessie cesti vasconcello's community engagement office phil phil cadnack recreation administrator robert robert nunez used services administrator tony tony trevino uh interim deputy director of public works and i'm sonya delgado director parks and recreation all right thank you so next i have a conflict of interest does anyone on the board or staff have a conflict of interest with anything on the agenda wait i'm sorry board chair my my names were scrolling through and i don't think i got phil oh no phil phil well uh phil cadnack recreation administrator is that what you're asking yes yes cool okay i was honored all right great i think we have everybody thank you sorry about that no it's all right i didn't catch it either all right so does anyone have conflict of interest with anything on the agenda and shaking okay all right let's move to the approval of the agenda do you have anybody to motion to approve there's only a couple y'all um madam chairman um i move that we accept the agenda this is megan shuler thank you you're muted you're muted robert you're muted um madame chair this is stan ingle i second the motion he got he got you he got faster okay we have a motion and a second a discussion i'll improve all in what what am i doing yes all in favor sorry it's been a long day bye okay it has been past oh we have eric coming on board do you want to introduce yourself real quick we're already at comp approval but hi eric montgomery district five board member thanks all right perfect perfect all right so number four approval minutes does anybody want to motion to approve the minutes so moved i moved anyone else second please which minutes are you approving because there was two sets of minutes oh that's two oh yeah because you have to do the specialty do you want to do it in any particular order which one is the first one the from so july 16th specifically okay move to accept the minutes from july 16th meeting all in favor discussion yes ma'am okay okay and do i have a motion to approve the minutes from the special meeting on august 4th i make a motion to approve the minutes from the special meeting on august 4th 2020 eric montgomery second okay any discussion all in favor [Music] okay all right great so now we're at number five public participation and i'm just going to apologize in advance because you're going to be hearing a lot of me right now i'm going to read um a quite a bit of email that we got regarding pickleball more than well i should should i give away that it is 38 pages it is 38 pages but i will attempt to make this as easy as possible some of these were came in a little late but we'll let some of it stand because just the i think it shows the breadth of this and also a couple that aren't pickleball related so good luck to me i have water this should be uh interesting i will endeavor to make this as painless as possible and hopefully for those who are following along on youtube i'm sorry if i um butcher names i will attempt not to do that either okay so we have number the first one xanthe phillips already i apologize if i pronounce that wrong dear parks and rec i want to start by saying how much i appreciate your hard work during this trying time and always i'm writing because i am extremely confused regarding the newest restrictions for tennis and pickleball we're the only city in the entire state with such hearts restrictions the old restrictions had half the courts at lions close which had a huge problem because there were more people in courts the time limits were okay but the courts opened at eight so once the heat of the day arrived at 10 no one could play these new restrictions are ridiculous 45 minutes to play tennis there is no point do you realize that tennis and pickleball are the safest activities courts are fully functioning in albuquerque elm gordo silver city where are these restrictions coming from not the governor please this very this is a very difficult time for everyone do not take the safest sport away sincerely is auntie phillips robert mccorkle and i understand parks and rec advisory board will hear from you tomorrow evening about proposed scheduling a pickleball court play at apodaca park it's one of the dozen designated pickleball players in las cruces i want to express my displeasure with this new proposed policy that seems to tighten the screws on pickleball community which is currently has only a very limited option of where to play in the city with the number of coronal virus cases recently stabling stabilizing in some cases dropping seems an odd time for your department to tighten scheduling requirements i would like to know why this is being done reading the proposal is obvious whoever came up the proposal will knows little to nothing about pickleball it would have been nice for your department to solicit import for the pickleball community before taking up the scheduling measure with the advisory board the sport is not like golf for one who serves the tea time in advance for foursome with pickleball players simply show up during open court hours and quote get in line unquote to play the games as completed and those players rotate off the court different players team up at different times there's a variety of players nobody plans ahead of time who they play with since they're a dozen or more players show up at any given day four people playing against double rarely play against one another for both more than a few games before different players pair up to play against various opponents recording myself and others plays to schedule specific playing partners at a specific time seems more punishment than a protective measure it is onerous and ridiculous and how do you tend to quote clean unquote the courts for during the 15-minute breaks between games it's not like a restaurant where one sterilizes tables and chairs until memories shut open courts open up please allow pickleballers to pursue their support without increasing restrictions on scheduling so we can continue to get fresh air and exercise we need to stay healthy and active for members of our community thank you rob mccorkle larry mastic while many of us appreciate the opportunity to continue to play pickleball during this pandemic some of us some of the recently proposed changes of those use guidelines are pretty unreasonable and unworkable we all understand the need to wear masks from social distance pick a ball can be played following those guidelines one it would have been much better if city parks and rec staff could communicate what the purpose of proposing the changes were first and then ask the pickleball players for input before opposing those guidelines two making reservations ahead of time seems like a significant hassle and waste of citizens and staff time coordination players would be required to do nearly every day to set up groups of forward starvation is unreasonable different players play different days there are dozens of players in town how would this all coordination happen three typically we mix up teams and partners after every game to keep play fair and interesting how would that work with the reservation system four 45-minute sessions are too short for most of us who typically pay two hours or so five what cleaning needs to be done players have been maintaining sweeping courts since reopening city has done nothing to in this regarding this regard to date six suggest that parks and rec staff use the same procedures as or use it merch site set up a player limit for example 20 for each lesson takes names so they enter courts and cut it off until the next session for example 7 to 9 am the 9 15 to 11 15 a.m thanks very much tom and maggie winter thank you for a chance to comment and ask questions can you slow down just a little bit do you want me to i can yeah i guess they're just going i don't want to hear what they're saying thank you sorry thank you for the chance to comment and ask questions park improvements i've not seen a request for public comments on the park improvement portion of the go bond as there has been for the east mesa design why is that how can we see specifics on the apodaca rehab design is it finalized will there be any shade structures seeding inside and outside in the courts has construction started on any park improvements how much of the go bond 16.9 million for parking through movements has been spent in these past two years court scheduling wish you could have gotten some input from players before instituting the new scheduling procedures why did scheduling procedures change were there problems if there were player issues they could have been addressed individually instead of a complete overhaul we are the most restrictive of all new mexico cities already why is that tennis and picklebar are the safest sports no need to change for facts in fact all the courts should be open plenty of space between courts why can't they be left open all day what is the purpose of closing courts 45 minutes for tennis or pickleball sets session is not feasible many of us drive 20 minutes to the park and back why bother no need for 15 minutes between sessions it's unreasonable to require players to set up groups of four for reservations every day just the staff time to coordinate all this could be used to keep bathrooms open why are bathrooms closed not really a place to congregate tennis and pickleball both draw from a pool of players to show up we can keep six feet apart drawing waiting circles on the chords or outside chords or perhaps what has been done at short finger sharp limit the number of players first come first served take names if need be and have two morning sessions and two evening sessions thank you i hope we can rethink court usage maggie winter carol shurik sorry questions for meeting one would you please give an explanation for why albuquerque allows a full 18 courts of four people each to play pickleball all day long as well as give as used to restroom facilities yet las cruces residents are not allowed to play all day long nor use the restroom facilities same is true in ruidoso please do not respond as you did before to this question and that you can explain what other cities do either your mandate has a medical explanation or it doesn't two please definitively state the criteria by which all pickleball and tennis courts will be open we are very frustrated with the moving criteria three why do you institute the new policy that you must collect names of all players four what tax refunds can taxpayers expect for these six months that we have not been permitted to place to freely use park facilities five how many p parks and rec employees have been furloughed during these past six months carol sheriff lynn austin parks and rec advisory board we understand that the parks and recreation department is planning to severely restrict pickleball play at apotheca park our circa 50 players have enjoyed eight weeks of play over 65 hours with no reported coveted 19 cases what is bold reasoning behind this decision lynn awesome oh gosh i'm not sure if i know this name oh jill rogers to whom it may concern i am writing concerning the proposed changes to the play at apodaca park as a member of the pickleball community i can assure you that the proposed changes will seriously harm the pickleball community question have we been doing something wrong with up padalka told that we are not following guidelines we may have not been giving something we may have been given some inaccurate direction from individuals unlocking the gate concerning using all four of the permanent nets but again we thought we were following all the directives including planning masks i am absolutely in support of social distancing and the importance of masks these are challenging times and changes slash altering alternative alternations need to be addressed suggestion one do away with reservations if you need to restrict people at apodaca then work on a first common first place system similar to the previous system at merchant with four courts 16 players limit each session one hour to 18 players this would allow encourage social distancing requirement and allow pickleball game to be enjoyed as intended suggestion two do not put a limit on the number of players number of sessions a player can participate in daily again similar to the system previously used at mersite after one session one courts are cleared new players come in and existing players are allowed to participate if capacity elapse ideally i would like things to continue as current however we need to make changes please allow input from the pickleball community that are trying to remain active and healthy during these difficult times again what are we doing wrong and how can we help you remain active and safe km thank you for consideration joe rogers cindy carrill i believe yes my comments concern the new guidelines for the pickleball reports that will be in effect august 24th 2020. i hope the public input wouldn't be thrown aside like it was for the go bond projects when comments were solicited for the public why are you fixing something that wasn't broke the gatherings occurred when you had two of the four courts open since you opened the two other courts there are one three people waiting to play in fact the players don't have much of a breathers with the four courts being open continuous play you have no idea how pickleball is played we don't play for 45 minutes with the same people one game will normally last 15 minutes after that players move on and play with other players this game gives all players the opportunity to meet new people enhance their skills and look forward to new challenges where is the money coming from to hire somebody to babysit us at papadaka park where is the money coming from some for someone to demand the phones for reservations the money could be spent better used for all the weeds around the play areas of apadaca park the money would be better it would be better it would better be spent paying someone to get off their butts up there right around cutting grass and clean all the clippings on the sidewalks have you ever come to expect to work i think not why are las cruces rules different than from albuquerque i was there a few weekends ago and the courts are open every day from 6 a.m to 10 p.m i have to assume that the state rules applied to all cities right sorry scrolling do you really think that pickleball players believe new guidelines or suggestions from player community who did you poll when did this poll take place how many how many did you pull i'd like an answer to these questions and who suggested this ridiculous schedule why is the completion date for an upgrade for apodaca a year away this has been talked about for two years how much money has been spent on talking you have citizens or citizens who enjoy the game of pickleball and aren't homesitting and watching tv this schedule confines us to 45 minutes and limits us to one session per day we respect the rules that you place on us we wear our masks and have social distance can you show me a case of pickleball player that has a virus or had the virus your concerns for our safety is heartwarming but you're dealing with senior citizens who actually know better don't punish us final comment i understand the restrooms need to be closed but porta potties are a necessity dean peterson the new rules are bs there was no reason to change i played every day 8 a.m never had a problem what really needs to happen is open the court from 7 a.m to 9 00 p.m monday through and this is a public court not a private one the prop people playing now are at 8 0 m are pretty much retired and done by 9 30 a.m we abide by all the rules and with no problems keeping the water off and rest no restrooms is okay i play with the same bunch and do not even know their names and have been for years linda moya unfortunately these new rules hinder those of us wanting to enjoy outdoor activity while being safe wearing our masks please reconsider these very confining rules very wily right now i play tennis at lions as much as possible however the new rules issued that became effective august 24th by city of las cruces parks and recreation will cause me and many other great difficulty i was informed by city personnel that the new rules were issued because there were complaints the courts were not available for play because there were too many players the simple solution to that is to open courts now closed there is no sound clinical reasoning regarding open 19 to close half the courts repeat underlying bolded and italicized there is no sound clinical reason because kobit 19 to close half the chords at lions tunnels has been continues to be one of the safest activities possible under cover 19 restrictions i would urge you to consider the appropriate activity within city of las cruces to open the courts at lyons 24 7 with reasonable guidelines for cobin 19 production such as now earning place thanks for listening harry reilly laura smart all right let me just give me 30 seconds hold on i have a lot of questions but my first question is who in the world dreamed about these rules for pickleball reservations nowhere else in the state is there such an absurd set of regulations to play pickleball at a public park in albuquerque 18 courts and monsanto mesa and multiple other public locations there are no reservations required it's first come first serve same for rio dos lo except all the players have their own key to access the net and ball box plus facilities have restrooms available some las cruces players are already going to el paso to play at their public ports because they are public and open with restrooms obviously who whoever made up these quote rules end quote has never played pickleball received pickleball played a player shows up and plays with three other players who get there first we warm up five minutes and play a game of uh 211 which usually takes 10 15 to 20 minutes with your new rule of only the 45 minutes to play this would mean that we get two games of pickleball players usually play between two and four hours rotating in and out of play at least seven games coming in the park to be limited to play only two games is ridiculous when mirsha was open the play time was two and a half hours did you hire an employee to monitor and be the quote mass police end quote as well as the quote cleaning of the court and quote maintenance person exactly how are they quote going to clean unquote the courts between 45-minute games will they take lysol and disinfect the courts we already provide our own paddles balls and water it's august 19th and you're changing the rules after the governor shut down the state since march 17th all you're accomplishing at this point is frustration for players with the city mayor castle the mayor and city council why the court's not open on sunday a lot of players work during the week and saturday and sundays are the only days that they can play i'm guessing because you would have to pay an employee double time to work on sunday what happens when an out-of-town player shows up and they have no reservation but there's a court available with three other players who need a fourth in order to play a doubles match we have your quote monitor and quote call the police when a player isn't wearing a mask during play when will the rehab for apodaca pickleball courts begin how long will the courts be closed down where are we supposed to play when the construction begins did we have the contractors sign a quote time limit and quote agreement could you please provide some quote transparency end quote with the highland enterprise and the pickleball players when will the construction of the east mexico sports complex begin will the pickleball players have any say quote say end quote in the particulars of the chosen design of the quote quartz if my demeanor in this email seems to be out of character for me it's because all the pickleball players are upset and frustrated with how you have handled our beloved sport regulation since march 17th please don't recite any quote cliches and quote with me about how quote all you care about is public safety end quote we are adults and we will take responsibility for our own playing pickleball is not only healthy but joyful you however have taken the quote joy and quote and removed it from our healthy regime okay this is from linda mccamely i've been playing at lions court for almost 30 years dropping tennis in the morning we play with whoever shows up and when we need to leave we do some stay for a couple hours some of the older people older people only an hour when the city parks and rec initiated the new covered regulations and closed half the courts it became a problem 12 quarts to six but we made it work everyone shared courts and it became it's become doable by the way albuquerque and alamogordo have not closed their courts we have come under the same state regulations so i'm not sure how this is happening why are we being so unfairly restricted i'm the one who takes this disease extremely seriously and have thought the governor has done an excellent job in trying to keep the safe what this seems to be excessive last night we get an email stating the entire policy is changing we'll need reservations to play exact people and ids will be checked first of all we won't even know first of all we don't even know last name so we've come and played this is a very informal network networks has worked for many years then the course will be restricted to 45 minutes really that's not even worth driving to the courts what is this policy going to do to have seniors not play tennis it's not worth it we have 80 70 80 year olds who come in faithfully to play with friends for the amount of time they can handle and quit during coveted one would think that for health reasons you would want to have seniors out and playing to stay healthy and it's one of the safest sports to play during this pandemic if parks and rec is clear to it is trying to clear the courts alliances surely will do it i find it hard to believe that anyone responsible for these new policies even plays tennis or has talked to any of the players involved these new changes are worse than leaving it as is that's cool candy gmo sorry i truly appreciate the city active role in trying to keep us safe from covet but these new guidelines are doing more harm than good first and foremost 45 minutes play tennis is an unacceptable time frame there are three sets in a tennis match set takes a half hour more or less plus there's the need to warm up prior to play their changeover after each odd game counts 90 seconds collecting balls after each point etc so for people who come across town to play 45 minutes is ridiculous the real solution here is to open all courts monday through saturday from 7 30 a.m to 12 p.m 5 2 p.m to 9 00 pm this will be plenty of time for all the for all to play with continued mass the ball usage and distancing i've played online since 1997 i know most of the players and the uses of the chords my suggestions will cover everyone who wants to play at lions and covet safe okay carol shannon i'm writing because of my concerns that shape just taking place playing tennis knocking some balls at lions courts since the courts have reopened i have played every tuesday and thursday morning and wednesday evening weather permitted here's what i have observed one it is a first come first place of everyone who wants to play starts arriving at 7 30am to get in line for when the courts are unlocked yes it is hard to maintain social distance when everyone is trying to go through one door either in order to get a court we have helped to resolve that by determining who the first six groups are and what cults they want to take then we can take our time getting to our quote assign and quote court it has worked well those folks arriving late did not get a court and usually a court did not free up for at least an hour and a half uh 42 45 minute time 45 minute limit at the beginning las cruces folks were coming to the courts every hour and i wondered how they were going to enforce the 45 minute rule or were they going to kick off if there was something waiting to hit slash that got answered pretty quickly nothing happened no one has to leave you can hit a ball and around in 45 minutes you cannot play tennis games like sets in 45 minutes three i was under the impression that only four people max were allowed on a court which would which would rule server out tennis that has been played every morning for years by many of our senior players since there would be two or three extra folks on the court i personally think the that's that that style increases the risk of spread of code 19 which is why i only play doubles four pillars on a court when the las cruces folks came to the courts every hour to check and never made the extra players on server outports leave the new rules some of which are good implies that you will be having an employee at the courts the entire time they're open to check in and enforce the rules that doesn't seem realistic for city courts here are the things that i think are problematic for enforcing rules cannot be enforced unless someone is there the entire enforcing entire we're seeing the rules not just watching two preserving courts i played in montana for 20 plus years we had to call in and reserve indoor quotes it was a nightmare trying to get a call in and to get through the person taking reservations three limiting time on court to 45 minutes by the time you get to the court you get your racket and your balls and warm up for five minutes minimum recommended time to avoid injuries you have lost close to 10 minutes at least 35 minutes all sets take 35 to 45 minutes to play not much tenants four in all of the new quote new unquote rules you've never even mentioned the mask mandate when you're out in public even when you're exercising it seems very odd that you tried to micromanage the other details in an state mandate do i think everyone should have to wear a mask while playing tennis no tennis has always been considered one of the safe activities but i choose my small circle of friends to play tennis with and i always wear masks to play my group only touches their own balls in warm up and during serving we put our bags in separate corners on the court to minimize socially socializing adventuring switch sides we take the situation very seriously but we still want to play tennis five timing the public health order is in place through august 28th i think it is silly to be making all these changes for august 24th prior to seeing what happens in what is in place after august 28th all right next one is frank for real watching public input being destroyed last month by city employees misreceptive mysteries they're misrepresenting the facts that were presented to the board mayor city manager then nothing done to correct the situation like it's okay sends a clear message public no longer can look to city for a fair shake making public input just a joke that you must go through but means nothing council meeting 17 2020 awarded this the same design contractor quote no big contract end quote two value of 5.2 million dollars by quote consent and quote of quote accepting the agenda end quote without one city council member asking one question nor the bid process for voters may be a better deal giving other contractors a chance having a statement of detail work sow really written with deliberations and time schedules for the citizens of las cruces it's now been two years since the bond issue not one spate of dirt has been turned turned for people city should be ashamed council should be ashamed yet we can make our new city manager the highest paid in the state right in this contract we must take two weeks executively without being charged for leaving i guess that's for stress how about all the stress of taxpayers of the bonds who have nothing we have nothing at peace makes our parks or the new dog park and we have paid over 700 000 to contractors already one bill says brief city council 7 000 there's a stress for people just keep on giving to the people you think you're not you're not watching like the council but we are from frank curiel now i have to make reservations play pickleball 15 minutes for 45 minutes make about as much sense as everything i said above you're doing you really don't want public input for comment you're out of control below the 7 000 build to brief the city council by you go bond contractor you can't wordsmith it but gives us stress okay diana i'm going to say vienna the bulletin states we must have the names of all players for the courts when making a reservation i'm just one person can one person make a reservation for his or herself where does that have to be a total of four names when making reservation mark and sarah mcdowell i have many concerns about the upcoming rule changes for pickleball i only ask that you come out and see how we have do how we have doing and how things have been working yes there are people waiting to play but we quote distance and quote ourselves we rotate in and out with everyone getting a chance to play and play multiple people throughout the time we are there it's been working fairly decent i have no i see no reason to change things like i said there are multiple issues i have with these proposed changes and i only ask that you come out and see how we've been quote policing and quote ourselves thanks jay mark khan i wish to say that nearly half of the folks using the court simply show up to see who is well enough to play or doesn't have a professional appointment to make as many to make as many are either seniors or professionals trying to fit in time between meetings it would be extremely difficult to implement a system similar to the one at friendship pool which i participate when you have four individuals who must coordinate 45 minute time slot it's a lot harder than single participants of friendship i'm used to the frontrunner system now and it's working but if you try to do it alliance that's a different ballgame so to speak well why try to make a major change now when the coveted state states coded numbers are so good and we're probably weeks away from the next phase let's keep the traditional walk-up system and play as it's been for 15 years it was a major facet of what drove my decision to move here 15 years ago let's make this make it easy for those desiring a complete education including pe which was excluded by educational institutes decades ago we really can do our part to combat obesity and type 2 diabetes for those excluded from physical exercise in our educational institutions decades ago jay marxie a free thinker from the land of enchantment taking the load less traveled and carol sharok sorry carol please note that of today new mexico officially meets the governor's own gaining criteria to open she links to a ko koat article um and this again i'm not going to read the article but it is included find that one i would suggest we open all 12 courts then there would be no need for reservations and time restrictions on courts laurie martin to whom i may concern i was informed earlier today that hours and times you can now play tennis are limited to the phone copy paste down an email we were told that people have been called in to the city making complaint suggestions all of these suggestions complaints must be from people that do not play tennis this does not begin to make sense whatsoever these are city courts and it is an outdoor activity one of the few capitalized one of the few very few safe things to do during the virus riddell bunker pharaoh apologies thank you for opening the courts on monday to saturday thank you for opening the courts earlier starting at 7am i believe it is very unrealistic to think that tennis can be played in 45 minute increments most people i know play for a couple hours we have to make reservations please allow for two consecutive sessions a day to be played in the same group please add a session four in the morning 10 to 10 45 a.m sometimes we form a group of four and something comes up for example kid grandkids need a sitter plumbing issues etc we have to find a substitute in order to play doubles can the original three players plus a substitute still use the preservation that was made originally or will no one be able to play exercise is one of the ways we can keep a positive attitude during this time relieve stress and increase our immune system please don't make it hard for us to exercise pat martinez but the next one is peppermint sorry okay parks and rec uh advisory board members the changes to the policy make reservations include the names of players 24 hours before only 1 to 3 p.m is extremely restrictive suggestions to address complaints also make covid guidelines open all courts at lions park this will reduce the number of players per court and still allow for the social distance of six feet open the courts at young and young park and friendship increase the playing time to at least an hour and a half hours one and a half hours most players would be more receptive to getting off the courts good idea to start at 7pm if you have to make reservations there needs to be a way to allow for substitutions since that is a possibility that does occur free use of mask while playing how healthy is that do you have someone from the las cruces players association on this board thank you for your attention and this is not a this one you guys can perk up to this is not a um pickleball one this is another one so just giving that as a heads up this is from ryan harmon darius sorry ryan hello all i would like to first like to thank the board and all the staff of the parks and recreation department for the city of las cruces the board's guidance and the diligent work by staff has brought the city beautiful and functional parks and programs without all that being said i believe we can still improve our service to the community safety and customer service are at the core of what parks and recreation does so why not create a volunteer position that provides these two things precisely a park service aid could be a position that fills many roles such as safety liaison security officer community educator and at the core of the position a customer service provider if this is something that the board would consider i would love to expand more on the idea another topic i would like the board to consider is extending park hours to before down and after dusk sorry many people on our city work shipwork may not be able to enjoy our beautiful parks during the current opening hours i believe this would also give more opportunities to those who may not be able to withstand the heat of our summers this would mean adding more lighting to existing parks over time but new parks such as the two new dog parks could have this cost incorporated into the initial design thank you all once again for the wonderful work you do i look forward to the board's response clayton henry this goes back to the pickleball and it says i agree with everything frank and laura have written i think there will be very few players that will be able to justify playing with the new rules i am already driving to el paso about three times a week occasionally to rio so where you can play as long as you want anyone wishing to carpool uh to five set net tomorrow meet at mcdonald's at university at 8 30 can play eight and one o'clock dean peterson they are no way trying to help albuquerque alamo and nmc all have rights that are helping tennis players call in every day to play public court is bs open all the courts first come first serve call the governor and get the rights changed not hard to do and cece hunter well written laura but unfortunately the mayor is not listening to his citizens and is determined to keep these ridiculous rules my question to the mayor is why are we blocking our players from being out in the beautiful outdoors enjoying and participating in a physical activity that boosts our immune system as well contributes to overall mental please reconsider and listen to your solutions wait hold on i believe that was it right [Music] yes i believe that was the last of it alrighty so number six action items right just a quick comment just that if any of the board members want to make uh put any of the comments or anything that's gonna that was just said on a future agenda they can put that on a future agenda and then i think on tonight's agenda i believe miss delgado also has some cobit updates that she might be able to um comment on some of those as well and same with other staff members as we move forward through this all right yeah does anybody want to leave it up to the board cassie did you get that very last one that i sent in a separate email i don't i don't think so do you want me to read it yes sure it was from mark and sarah mcdowell i have many concerns about the upcoming rules changes for pickleball i only ask that you come out and see how we have been we have doing and how things have been working yes there are people waiting to play but we distance ourselves we rotate in and out with everyone getting a chance to play and play with multiple people throughout the time we are there it's been working fairly decent and i see no reason to change things like i said there are multiple issues i have with these proposed changes and i only ask that you come out and see how we have been policing ourselves thanks mark mcdowell eric stan megan any comments questions given in a second um no cassie i just want to reiterate um great job on reading through those um i know that was a lengthy process and so i really appreciate you going through that and um kind of to reiterate robert my question was just to make sure that we followed the correct protocol as the comments that were made seem to have a short timeline before being placed on our agenda for next month eric stan anything if not and i will head into action items um yeah madam chair so um unless miss delgado can um cover a lot of the um answers to a general theme from the public input it does i do agree with um with ms schuler that that waiting another month might be too long to address to address all of it adam chair sonia delgado parks and recreation director and other board members what i could do is i don't want to accidentally not answer one of those questions that were in all of those emails so what i will do is i can take all those emails go through each and every single one answer each question and send them back to the board and then i can also send a reply and copy the board when i send it back to the individual that sent that email i will need a couple of days to get that done but i will get that done uh i should be able to get it done within 48 hours after this meeting if that's acceptable to the board would we be able to i mean i feel like there are a couple questions asked over again is there a way to just do a faq for you that kind of hits all of those would that make it easier madam chair members of the board sony delgado i can answer some of those questions here when we go over our co-bed and i i just want to um make something clear i know that it was said that you were going to be taking action on some rules that is not the case the update that's on your agenda for cobed was just to give you an update of where we are staff wise um what kinds of things we have done innovatively to change some programming what have we been able to do where we were with regards to the orders how we got there so i can we can answer some of those questions not a problem but i don't i want to make sure that i don't miss any of those questions because i don't want someone to think that you know we purposely alluded that question and didn't want to give an answer so we can certainly answer a lot of them probably tonight but i will go through and make sure that we answer every single one and i will make sure uh the board is aware and that each and every person receives a reply from me that sound good to everybody yeah that sounds good and i'll hold my questions or comments until after the update because some of the state orders and that i could see it would be violating but um in the aspect of playing yeah play healthy out um all these orders are aggravating and yes we abide by them and yes we're trying to get through this and it's all a new thing but i'll hold my questions and comments until we hear the updates okay all righty without any further ado which i like to do it's okay let's do number six action items and we don't have any action items this time right as i understand it yes correct so we're going straight to discussion number seven and let's go 7.1 go bond project updates with tony madam chair this is tony trufino the interim deputy director of public works i'm going to share a screenshot okay can you all see that i'm going to take that as a yes yes yes i see it okay so what i wanted to go through today is just kind of give you an updated program schedule this is our latest one from august 12th this has all of our geo bond projects all 35.6 million dollars of projects which is the dog parks the trails sports courts rehabilitation the hadley complex you need that east mesa red complex fire station animal service center i'm going to skip the first two projects a and b has also the animal service center and jump into the east mesa public rec complex as you can see here as you go to the right the light blue is kind of was our anticipated planning and scoping and the purples are designed what's below it is what it actually took and we're actually at in the lighter shades of purple and blue of purple um we're in the third quarter of 2020 we had we're we're a little we did take about an extra two three months to do some master planning for the entire project of that east mesa sports complex um what we wanted to do is we do you want to go out there and just build half a complex without planning the entire future build out with um additional soccer fields the baseball complex uh additional pickleball courts and so forth so we took the time to make sure we plan it out accordingly to allow for future expansion um right now we're currently in the design phase as you can see here we plan on having this the design out and bidding by the first quarter of 2021 which is about february of 2021 be out to bid this allowing a few weeks for our procurement process and into construction um taking us into the third quarter of 2022. this has a little bit of fluff built into it for some unforeseen circumstances once we get a contractor on board this uh schedule will be defined more as this is just our preliminary schedule and our hard deadlines for the consultants and the contractors that we have to meet uh of course when we get into contracts we'll try to negotiate and shorten this up uh below project d is the you need that park you can see here the planning and scoping um and the actual we're right on target for there we're in the design process however right now we're probably about 75 to 80 done with design we were going with a flow through system however we're going to go back and check for some water conservation issues um of installing a recirculating pump into the splash pad and what this is going to require is additional showers and bathrooms to be built near the facility so we are going to reconvene with the architect the consultant and uh get this handled and taken care of and figure out the budget for this splash pad the park structure the playground structure you saw in a previous meeting it's all designed laid out and the only kind of thing we're working on now is the splash pad as you can see here the bidding we're planning for the the end of this year hopefully by no by november it might get pushed out about a month so you can take care of the um the outstanding research situation however the construction of the united park we're looking about the third quarter of 2021 so the end of next summer the east mesa halley avenue red complex we just went to council last week or was it no it was monday sorry apologize um we this is a design-build contract as well as the park and sports courts rehabilitation project f with the design bill the first part of the contract is up to 60 design where we plan scope and value engineer the project to see where we're at and then we negotiate a guaranteed maximum price but this is kind of for all the projects for all the 11 parks within the parks and sports courts all the complexes and the hadley the uh paws mag hardy and ron gaia we had to go back and not go back but we hadn't taken all the designs we took in the public comment and we agreed on a price with the with the contractor yes this you can see the planning and scoping of this was took about a year um and now we're actually designed however there is a lot of input we had to get for this a lot of different intricacies we had to get involved with this however we on this we're on the page and you can see we're actually ahead of schedule our anticipated timeline to go into construction was going to be the third quarter of 2020 and we're going to be a few weeks ahead of that as well as the parks and sports course right now we're in the process of getting that contract executed for that amended for the final design and construction portion of both of those projects the recreational trails we did have an ebid meeting a couple weeks ago we did get the permit for the messiah drain trail which goes from the outfall channel south to burn lake um it's going to stop it's going to go past burn lake under the underpass and stop at lakeside drive at this point we are working with evid for other permits along the other drains however um with the complexities of the 11 or 13 miles of trails we wanted to be able to get construction started ahead of time so we're just doing a travel at a time for the permitting so we can get the contractor out there building the trail as soon as possible um again those plans are 60 and hopefully will be under construction with the first part of those trials um by november or so um in the dog parks you can see here in the bottom um that is a dog park for behind the animal service center and the dog park at burn lake we are working hard to try and include both of those dog parks within the animal service center project as they're kind of aligned together um those plan for the animal citizen are 90 and so are those uh projects also and as you can see here the anticipated construction for those is beginning of 2021 and ending the summer of 2021. uh at this point i will stand for any questions regarding any of the park gioban projects does anyone have any questions from the board should i take that as no i think we're good then right thank you tony i appreciate it i think that gives uh some of the questions that were asked and public input seemed like this might give them some idea of what the process is behind us a little bit more too okay and then we are also scheduled for a work session in september to go over all the jung the gioban projects with the city council for kind of a more in in-depth presentation of what we gave you today robert i see you yeah thank you tony that was good i was just kind of thinking back to some of the the questions and kind of also my own wondering on kind of where the money's been through the go bond something in this aspect is there anything that's available for public and the aspect to say here's what's being spent on which projects or where we are kind of how this lays out on planning scoping design and construction is there anything now that has now that some of the bidding's been done on where we are on construction costs that's available for general public um yes for that and i'm going to take this sports cards the scope is what we had provided to you all in the um parks and rec advisory board meeting a few weeks ago the scope has not changed um pricing yes that'll that can be be available when requested um the with that is those are more of a maintenance project kind of more of a scope regarding the resurfacing there's not really much of a design drawing you can do for a lot of these uh grinding similar to the cracks not much of a design more of a written scope of all the efforts are going to happen on all these courts um we have all that written down and that's part of the the contract that went to city council the entire scope is written down by particle of every item that's going to be uh done at each one of those courts as well as all that is another thank you yes sir anyone else for this specifically okay i don't see that where is that hi there this is hi madam chair i'm bored um this is cece vasconcello's with the community engagement office i just wanted to mention that there is a go bomb project web page that the public can access and get the latest up-to-date information there as well and that is that they can just go to the cruises.org site and look for go bond projects and it'll take them right to it thank you thank you is there a way that you could copy and paste that into the youtube like chat or at least the link to it awesome i don't know i can try okay okay all right has anybody else got their hand up now i'm going to scroll through can i see if i see that i don't lastly going once going twice all right next i'm going to go to 7.2 parks and rec recoved update with sonia yes uh good evening uh madam chair members of the board sonia delgado parks and recreation director uh before i i'm gonna give you a little bit of background first and then i'm gonna have each one of our team members that are here with us talk about their areas and kind of some of the things that they've done um to be able to get some programs out there some things they've done virtually and what we're looking for in the future hopefully so just to get started um our budget has stayed whole we don't have anyone who's been on furlough um in the beginning of this pandemic when it started march 20th for us is when we got sent home we were not considered essential we were told we were not essential so and about uh less than two weeks later we were told to come back in because they needed our assistance to take care of some things because people are out and about on the trails in the parks and calling in about different things here and there and so we started coming back online the first group to start to come back online was our parks team um currently and then we slowly started bringing everybody else back online we're we will be at approximately 32 hours per person by the end of the month this month and we're trying to get to full time uh by middle of next month and that we also have to take into consideration all the spacing requirements are going to need at the offices in our buildings and trying to we're going to have some staggered schedules we're going to have um we're going to be doing things a little bit differently when it comes to the office each office has already been equipped with spacers on the floor to tell you where your distance is we do check in with the thermometer we do go over all the questions ask about our health before we walk into the facility we wear masks at all times the only time we'll take it off is if you're in your office alone and there's nobody around you but as soon as someone starts coming close we put our masks on immediately we do not have meetings in person we're doing them all virtually even with our teams if we do get together in groups it's less than five so that we are not in violation of the public health order um like i said we don't have anyone who's on furlough thank goodness and we don't have and our budget has stayed at hole and actually uh the city of las cruces has not furloughed anyone we do have some individuals um that may not they're not quite at 40 hours yet if they're full time but we're slowly starting to get them back there and if we don't if they can't do their specific program we are making sure we have other things to do which we do we have lots going on in parks and rec we're just trying to do things a little bit differently i'd also like to touch on before i start handing this over is our park and program situation so i get a lot of questions and you received a lot of questions about what about albuquerque why does alamogordo rio doso el paso and the list goes on and on i cannot speak for them all i can tell you is what i was asked to do by council and the mayor and when this first started we went forward uh when the governor we closed everything got shut down we started put together a plan to see if we could get some things opened and she was willing to listen to those i was asked by our council on the mayor to send a plan to the state epidemiologist so that they could review it and see if it fell within those orders and then it they were good with that we did get that plan approved that is the plan that we are utilizing right now so i don't know what albuquerque did i don't know what alamogordo did and i don't know what ruidoso did and i don't know if they asked them to do the same thing i i cannot answer that question i do not work for them and i know that in some agencies they've asked um they were asking us how did we put our plan together and that's exactly what i've told them i've shared it with others cities we've talked about it uh they've utilized some of the things that we've implemented so that's been a good thing and i know it's frustrating uh we feel that we feel that every single day and we're trying to we want to get back to our normal also and i know it's going to be a new normal but we're trying to bring back the programs as much as we can and you're going to hear that from all the different supervisors administrators that i have here tonight to talk about that and talk about their areas so i do commend each and every one of them because this has not been easy not at all we have individuals that are pulling us from every single direction you can possibly think of and it has been trying uh but everybody's been hanging in there and so we just asked the community to hang in there with us and we will continue to do our best one of the biggest issues uh that has been happening is and i think it's because people are getting comfortable people are getting um they're not staying on top of everything anymore and it's we're starting to get groups together and so that's been one of the issues we've been having um and we we have to make sure that that doesn't happen and in the beginning when we start opening our courts i'll back up a little bit when we start opening up the courts for example we didn't have staff there every single day and every single hour all the entire time because all our staff weren't back they didn't have all the hours yet so we had to spread people around to help us with other areas because part of that plan opened up a few specialty courts that we had to go through to um open and close and when that started to happen um it that became an issue and so we didn't have enough people so we're hoping that with this plan and moving forward it'll make things a little bit easier so i hope that we we can always revisit it i'll be more than happy to do that and once the governor uh relaxes some of those orders we can certainly start looking at you know what else can we add and what else can we open because i know that's extremely important so i'm hoping that the next press conference will be a little bit better than what it has been these last few times so i just wanted to say that before i pass that along um and i again i just want to say thank you to the team who they've done an outstanding job of trying to navigate through this so i'll start with phil um i know he's been having some issues with his um internet but i think he's good now so if he drops off or something we'll get him back on as quickly as possible but i'll turn it over to phil and he can talk to you about what the recreation section's been up to go ahead phil good evening can you guys hear me yes yes okay good evening the recreation section programs and facilities closed up at the end of business on march 13th and uh with the exception of the regional aquatic center which closed at the end of business of march 14th our pool maintenance workers continued to work from that point to the present because the pool still needed to be serviced when all staff have been put on eol the managers continue to come in and work on hiring purchasing receiving and every all the duties needed daily uh office activity has increased monthly as we've been going forward right now the recreation staff is working 32 hours a week and at the beginning of september sonia said we should be up to 40 hours on the individual programming the city wellness program remained active from closing and continues now by providing fitness challenges through movespring which is a which is an app that can be done and tracked through the computer and on portable portable devices like fitbit etc during this time staff has distributed food for senior programs in beginning april 2nd through may the 22nd four sites daily for mass distributions and then on fridays they were getting the big boxes from the state and as of today it continues and right now we are also helping three different senior sites with the drive uh up mild mill pickups so we're over at frank o'brien papen uh east side and ben avitas daily helping senior programs deliver meals to the seniors uh may 26 as soon as stated that the specialty courts opened up and our staff has been monitoring and tracking and opening the facilities for pickleball tennis uh we were doing the rc airport the rc uh track for for rc cars the shooting range and staff has continuously been doing that and we're getting ready to to step up uh the program that you heard a lot about at the start of the meeting on the 24th on june 11th we began virtual music in the park we had to do something different when the when the kova 19 hit uh musical acts and and uh were one of the first to to get hit and all their gigs canceled we made it a priority to find a way to keep our music going there is one of our biggest programs for the summer we do uh usually 17 concerts in the summer this year we were able beginning june 11th to record band only concerts and we recorded 14 concerts and we've posted them on the city's uh youtube page vimeo and our webpage and you can get the link from facebook i hope you guys have had a chance to check it out it's had a great reception so far uh june 15th the regional aquatic center and fringer pool opened up for lap swim only as did the original aquatic center upstairs at a 25 capacity level and in june at continuing today rec staff has recorded and posted uh virtual videos for hiking biking sports skills art galleries and and those are posted on the city vimeo page as well as well as our facebook one of the big things we took on this year was the virtual fourth of july uh parade and the fireworks show the fireworks show is a little tricky as we try to keep social distance for our community but still have a great display for the community and we were able to shoot off a firework display from the dam over there by q time at the messiah dam it was a great success and i think the community really liked that we still move forward with the fourth of july even during these pandemic times a couple of other things that we're doing is we're following all at our facilities in programs we're following all the state and cdc guidelines in several areas staff has worked to put plexiglas guards we've procured the the necessary ppe we're working through the proper distancing requirements shower protocols cleaning and sanitation schedules and we have rules posted for patrons and staff for their needed safety so every time that someone goes into that pool and they take a shower we have to go in there and sanitize the the showers so our guys have been constantly busy and working on stop very proud of them but that's what we are doing for covid to take care of business thank you thank you phil uh robert nunez good evening board uh robert nunes uh so for in youth services we had a wonderful summer program for 18 days that ended on august 7th we were able to have 65 kids in our program following all guidelines we utilized all city facilities just did a tremendous job this this summer um as we're moving forward uh we were we're in discussions with um early childhood and care development um through the state's office because as we transition into a school year what happens is we're exempt during the summer time for our summer programs but when we want to do things during the day we're classified as child care during the school year so we're actually have a meeting with them tomorrow to discuss how we can uh receive some temporary approvals um and and what we need to put in place so that we can continue programming and really in programming we're talking about mentoring tutoring and offering some of our youth and their and their families an opportunity to us get assistance with with technology um some of our facilities have wi-fi so that they could utilize the wi-fi uh so we'll be looking into that and we hope to start that by labor day um right after labor day and and be able to offer that within some of our facilities overall staff has has been very positive uh we had some great trainings they continue to do trainings as we get prepared um they're thinking outside the box they're really looking forward to they are they want to have that face to face um of course following all guidelines with mask and distancing but you see these kids and you see the families and and i can share some letters with you in regards to uh the kids and the the parents so thankful for for staff providing these programs keeping everybody safe and and doing what we needed to do for our community in our juvenile citation program we recently were approved for fy21 uh 308 799 so we'll continue of course the program this year currently we're doing 100 virtual intakes assessments uh classes follow-ups uh and it's going well we're working very closely with jpo we have a meeting on monday with las cruces public schools and next week with gatson independent school districts on how we can help them when they identify some youth that are or maybe um not being as focused within uh this this uh remote learning and and seeing if we can do anything to a system um keep las cruces beautiful we are currently providing supplies uh we're we're recruiting groups of five if they can go out we can provide the bags the gloves um [Music] and and the the the litter uh grabbers um and we have had groups come forward um that program is also grant funded and we were just notified that we've been approved um i know it's 41 000 mr woods was here uh last month a month before uh and that'll be going to council in september so as we're we don't have youth with us right now but we're really preparing our staff collecting their schedules as well because we're looking to do things in the morning in the afternoons and so we need staff to be very flexible so we're looking at their college schedules as of course they just recently went back to school but we are going to make things work and and we will provide some type of service to our community and the youth and the families here thank you very much thank you robert um kathy good afternoon um or good evening member support i wanted to uh report on for franco granio regarding the parks covid um status and processes um franco notes the parks staff came back on a limited basis two weeks after the initial shutdown uh only maintenance staff for four hours on mondays and fridays for literary and general cleanliness issues um as sonia mentioned parks was originally considered non-essential and so staff was brought back gradually starting with those four hours on mondays and fridays initially also one construction worker was tasked with checking the playgrounds to make sure that um they remained closed at that time um and that check occurred two times per week to make sure that those playgrounds were um cordoned off um these conditions lasted until about mid april when staff then was increased to 16 hours per week and then 24 hours per week in may um also parks brought on operators or modified mowing schedule as the bermuda grass started growing as spring temperatures warmed up and also irrigators um to make sure that the turf was maintained properly median staff also came back with their normal duties and um at that time in april and may we were allowed to bring back 10 of the 23 temporary employees um then in early august of course um the hours were increased to 32 hours per week and that's where we stand right now with staff working 32 hours per week um all staff that is everybody comes in on 10-minute staggered shifts to make sure that we can maintain distancing proper distancing uh in the mornings rather than everybody crowding into the warehouse as they get ready to start their day and i just want to know for parks we anticipate by mid-september that we'll be back to 40 hours per week of course that is dependent on the governor's orders and and how that works for it i also wanted to mention then with regard to the design and construction staff so there's myself the landscape architect and two project specialists um working on designing construction projects in march of course we transitioned to working remotely we were not classified as essential but we were able to um cobble together the technology resources to work remotely and so all three of us continued to work full-time uh just remotely from home also we continue to observe and inspect construction projects meet with contractors on site um of course wearing masks and observing uh social distancing out on site but that allowed us to keep all our construction projects and all our planning and design moving forward um in april we continued to work remotely and also transitioned to um the three of us coming into the office twice a week on tuesday and thursday mornings to do accomplished tasks that could only be accomplished in the office costing scanning um meeting together um to discuss our project updates um and the like and to upgrade our technology as well um of course we observed uh limited numbers in those meetings um proper distancing and wearing masks as well then may through july we of course continued that as things changed our schedules did not change because it was working for us we managed to be i have to say my team managed to be extremely productive during this time um but i did want to note also that um in july the youth conservation corps program got started and so we brought on seven uh youth conservation corps crew members and um and gave them some training in how to um work using the social distancing requirements and the masking requirements and the like and they adapted very well um to these strange times um and uh made and observed those practices during their training and also while they're out there working um doing the audits of the irrigation system and then of course now we're in august and so we've added to all our practices the temperature checks every morning so anybody who comes into the office on our team does the temperature checks um notes the the questions to make sure that um we're following the proper copic procedures um so with that i just wanna read it we are we are continuing to work and and provide our services for our residents um because we need them more than ever we need parks and open space and places to recreate and so that as we transition into better times those spaces will be available to us and all our rest thank you very much thank you kathy um cece am i on the air i don't see myself oh there i am okay good um so from day one um we've been working with parks and rec to provide information to the public um as changes were coming about we were using press releases we were posting information on social media and we were using direct email when appropriate through resources like the e-track system and our own excusing our own databases so it was it's a constant effort to keep the information out there because it's changing so quickly and we we were trying really hard to provide updates as they happened um it seemed like sometimes we'd be in the middle of writing a press release and already we had to change the information so it's just been that fluid um we also created a web page where the community can go and see the latest updates and get information about the open facilities and and read the guidelines and and how to use them um also the the currently closed um facilities and programs and services and that website is lost cruises dot org forward slash cobit 19 park schedule and that should be on the youtube site hopefully um and then there's the other piece it was um an effort to keep the community engaged we knew they were staying at home they they weren't able to go out they weren't able to be as active as they were used to being and they couldn't use you know the gyms or pools or all the facilities that they were used to using so um we worked to get uh um activities on social media that or or do um like like short videos and and we came up with psas that gave them suggestions on on games to play activities to do so that's been an ongoing effort we also shared videos that were provided to us by organizations like the national fitness campaign to encourage people to stay active and that was done on social media um we participated in other events such as earth day which happened in april um it was a month-long event and we we klcb i worked with keep las cruces beautiful to give them information that uh that gave what's like how to do safe cleanups during this time and how to get rid of debris that might be contaminated tips like that that we came up with and i also worked with our department worked with recreation staff to put together a virtual electric white parade that we asked the public to submit photos of how they decorated their yards for the 4th of july and it was a contest and and we judged them and and gave prizes out to the public that participated so um it was just all an effort to keep the engagement going and and provide some sort of relief to the community most recently well let's see yeah most recently i don't know if you've driven by um down hadley or alonsolano near the the soccer fields but you see the cup signs that are on the fences so we did a i spy campaign on social media to to bring awareness to those signs and that was all um created by staff to encourage our community and and give them try to make them feel better about the situation um so it's an ongoing effort it just never ends thank you thank you sassy i appreciate that um madam chair members of the board sonia delgado parks and recreation director i also want to add i didn't make that clear is all the exempt staff stayed on at 40 hours even when the rest of the team was was taken down basically so we've had the exempt staff on for 40 hours and and then some uh since march 20th so now we're bringing the whole team back hopefully uh by mid sept mid-september and hopefully we can um make sure and ensure that there's enough space for everyone to operate in so we're still working those little kinks out but i think we're just about there um we're here for any questions any other additional comments any specific items i know that pickleball um and tennis were up at the forefront earlier and one of the biggest issues we had there was uh the public health order says you got to have you know less than five people in a group and we weren't having that that we were having large groups on top of that i had community members who were seeing this and asking me why is that park why can't i go to that park and why are the groups allowed to form as groups when you're not supposed to and um so that was extremely difficult um at one point in time i did have the state police that were called about apodaca park regarding a mass gathering and lots of people in that area even when it was closed and that would not be a good thing um i certainly don't want to get a fine um for going against any of those orders however i do understand very frustrations and i do understand that people want to be out and about and play i get it we do you know we're in parks and rec it's our passion it's our passion to provide these services for the community and it's been extremely difficult we will be working with the pickleball community and the tennis community as we roll these out and actually the reservation is going to help us control some of that as far as having groups gather we did the same thing with lap swimming we did the same thing with the fitness area upstairs at the aquatic center and it has helped us a lot we know that the individuals coming in are the ones that have a reservation in the beginning we did have groups of people that were trying to get to the courts early to make sure they were in line that was causing an issue we were hoping we could figure out they would help each other help us figure all that out and it didn't quite work out and i understand everybody wants to play and everybody's willing to hang out for a little bit i also received calls from people that didn't get an opportunity to play because they couldn't stay there that long and so i understand that as well i have received a phone call saying thank you for the reservation because now they will have an opportunity to play when before they had a difficult time playing and of course i've had those phone calls that said now you're taking away you know my time i like to play two three hours or more and and i understand that but um pickleball and tennis were our pilot programs for some programming and i you know we're trying to offer something instead of nothing and i i also get the phone calls from all the other groups out there that want to play and that that has been difficult as well so we're hoping that as we start getting better and our computing starts getting more healthy that we'll be able to open up things so believe me we'll be the first ones to open up that gate and welcome everybody back so again we're here for any questions if you have any if you need any specific information thank you thank you everybody for sharing all of your different departments um the information i think some of the questions were also answered to a certain extent but i would like to give it up to the board for any more specific questions stan megan robert eric anyone maybe no okay when i see the picture come on then i i wonder okay um just going over here most of that was and it's right there okay so um just out of curiosity does that kind of overlap with the up rubber no was just going to see if megan had any questions camera came on but no um i don't know if they're if we want to move on to staff member comments um i guess as outside the covet update um quickly stan are you um yeah madam chair um so uh so even though some of these questions were answered i'd like to see what the board feels about ms delgado um still answering them more directly if that's um you know if we feel that she's she does still need to do that i think that questions specifically regarding the the plans the new plan coming coming on on the 24th and then regarding the 28th from the governor and we have a i think it would be nice and courteous to respond and the aspect of what exactly uh health order are they violating and that's kind of when i was listening to some of the the questions and um first and foremost pickleball has a strong community you know it's kind of thinking in different ways of of how to help them be their gain their own autonomy and and let them do what they want to do i mean even within covet and outside covet aspect of it and i know how similar to softball baseball soccer um now there's kind of a mutual there's their own organization which i'm sure they could get a pickleball national organization and not necessarily lease the fields but also do be in charge of what they're doing at the fields and kind of in this setting i know kind of similar to golf courses and multiple businesses having to either one create and to follow some of kind of new mexico department of health and the covet safe practices um or they have that right and now um the only one i think they're and i was kind of hoping that there would be a the governor would speak today and cut things back because there was obviously more testing more positive then now there's obviously decreased testing and decreased positives so i was hoping today would be a nice little cut down on some of the restrictions but that didn't happen so maybe next week but in the aspect of kind of the violations i think she did answer that in the mass gathering greater than five if the pickleball and tennis community could come up with kind of a copic safe practices that can fall in that category then it might be uh beneficial to staff and also the pickleball and tennis community um it's kind of one of my my thoughts on kind of all of tonight can you hit the light my computer's gonna die quickly to jump in concerning the the amount of play if if reservations could be extended longer is that something that pickleball would want to do i mean that sounds like the 45 minute issue is if we continue the reservations and extend it does that work better for people and madam chair members of the board sony delgado parks recreation director okay so when we first sent the plan forward we had a set amount we had the days and we had a set amount of time that was agreed upon by a state epidemiologist so that's the plan we're working with what i can do i can't add any more hours to the program itself but i can change the way the hours are so for example if um let's say we were open eight to twelve and uh no one was playing from ten to noon every day let's say we open every day so i had four hours a day for five days twenty and nobody's playing from ten to twelve then i could move those two hours for all those days so another what 10 hours and i can move them let's say make it a little bit earlier instead of eight go to seven and then maybe put those other few little hours on saturday morning as long as i didn't go i did as long as i didn't add more than what was already approved okay and i just used 20 because it was for easy math by base that's that's the only reason i use that as as an example if i want to increase the hours or increase the number of programs or increase facilities to be open i would have to resend the plan to the state epidemiologists and based and i would say based on the changes the governor has made this is what i would like to do and this is and then and then put that forward we can certainly do that we will do that once those things start to change once those orders start to get relaxed uh we will certainly do that as long as we that's what i was told to stay to align the plan with it when the state epidemiologist first approved it they did say we did a very good job of aligning with the current orders and they liked that we were doing it slow and i don't i to be honest i really don't know if anybody else was told to do the same things that we did it doesn't it maybe not i have no idea like i said i can't speak for them so and when we did the swimming and we started doing the reservations we sent that to the state epidemiologist to say okay can swimming be in there because swimming was not allowed in the very beginning it was slowly starting to come out we had to put a plan together there were some things that got changed had to be a little more strict we had to have more time and it really did restrict the number of swimmers per lane so for example we're working with the swim teams i have a certain amount of hours that were approved but i'm starting to move those hours around so we can accommodate that swim team a little bit better and and still stay within those five people numbers which is that's the difficult part i can't have a whole team in there you can't have she completely said no teams okay no coaches on nick okay so we are trying to figure out how to work with that and we have been um i haven't added any more so to do that i would need those orders to relax a little bit and then we would resubmit and add things that that fell right into place so again we're willing to do that once that happens we will be there i hope that helps and if they want how long was the turnaround from the sending it to the epic epidemiologist back when we sent our original plan it was at least a couple of weeks could have been longer but at least two weeks at least and i understand you know they're they're very busy and i get that um but that's about what it took and then once we had to look that over made sure all our protocols were in place we had signage we had to get place it out there put some news releases talk to some people let them know what was happening and then we opened up and at that time we did have staff that would go open but they we didn't have enough staff with enough hours to stay there their entire time to enforce the rules and i think that was one of the other questions we couldn't really enforce it because they couldn't stay there all the time but now that we've increased the hours we're going to be able to have a staff a team member there the entire time to help enforce that and and that's going to be difficult uh some individuals are okay and they understand they need to abide by all the rules we have some individuals that don't want to um refused not and that that's going to be a tough one that is going to be tough um and then with regards to the hours so we understand that the 45 minute limit they want more we can certainly do that what we did was we maximized the amount of hours and a number of participants so that they could play now if we go back and move some of those hours around let's say we have we give you an hour and a half that means i need to take 45 minutes from somewhere else from another day and ask you to shorten that day or i'm going to get rid of that day so that we can have that that also means we'll have a less number of players able to play in one week so i did get calls that they would go stand in line they couldn't stay that long they didn't get on the court right away they couldn't stay that long they didn't get to play then they would go back and the same thing would happen again um i get calls that they got to play maybe once every couple of weeks um i did get a phone call saying they're happy that they have to call in for reservation because now they know that they will get to play and they know when they'll get to play so i i get it um and i understand but we will work with them we just ask that they let us try this out and and then we'll get some feedback because we do have a lot of different people out there wanting to play both those sports that aren't necessarily part of those organizations and i had a really good conversation um with the tennis president yesterday and they're willing to go out there and help us with that and we did talk about some of these issues and how we're going to work through them and it was very very positive and i've talked with phil and our program team they do know how to program programs they have programmed pickleball before they're the ones who program the one at meershade and they have worked with that group a lot and i have a lot of confidence in that entire team and i know that they will do a good job and they will sit down and they will talk with them and if changes need to be made we will do so we will listen and we will work with them any other comments from the board robert i think you're removed yes i'm muted sorry about that i was going to say in the aspect of the state park and wreck organization is there any set and how the state is a as a whole with the positivity rate and kind of how that's been changing and using that as a different criteria is there anything within the state because there is the state park and rec organization is there any specific goal number that we're looking for in as similar to the state with the positivity rate or any of the other rates that will give us a go ahead to open up in the park setting since we are outside we are doing lots of different healthy activities um any answer for that mr delgado madam chair remember tony delgado parks and recreation director if i'm understanding the question correctly you're asking me if the new mexico recreation and park association has a different number than the state to reopen facilities correct or just a a number are they aligned together somewhere along the way in the aspect how is the state new mexico park and rec association involved in what's going on and do we have any certain number goal as a whole on cases or in that nature what is our our gaining criteria to move forward um madam chairman the gaining criteria that we're following across the state is what's coming out of the state out of the department of health out of the main office up there the nmrpa or nrpa which is our national recreation and park association they are telling us to follow all the guidelines set by your state what is your state doing what's the governor what's your department of health doing and follow those now cdc says the same thing we look at their guidelines as well and then of course with every organization for example just recently usa swimming usa swimming said the same thing here are some guidelines however the first and foremost you have to follow your state and then move down and so that that's what we have been doing so the state has been our guide instead of with this pickleball stuff particular is there any i know there's a certain couple individuals that is there any particular person that can lead in meeting with you and saying okay here's our covet tape practicing for courts because i mean there's a kobe take practicing for golf covert say practicing for medical facility coveted practicing for restaurants is there anything kovitzek practicing for courts that may be meeting with some of the uh pickleball and or tennis community and saying here's what we need to do versus answering each individual question which i kind of think we have tonight but i think it may be just meeting with them in whatever they might have as a uh additional organization or loose fit organization uh madam chair members of the board sony delgado parks and recreation director we so our team when we are putting these things together and when we started when we started putting our plan together for reopening and talking to the state epidemiologists we did look at those safe practices for those different areas and see which ones would work with regards to the plans that the the orders that were coming out at that time the team has done the same thing now we will certainly sit down with them and we we can work with them some more and let them know um but the guidelines that are going to be setting they're going to fit to the top are going to be the ones that are coming from the state and we're going to make sure we abide by those first and then make sure that program fits that and then we'll move forward i hope that answers your question no it it does i think it's just a tough time for all and i know we want to be outside playing baseball people want to be outside playing their particular sport and one pickleball to be outside playing too so thank you stan eric anybody else um comments no thank you to staff okay alrighty yeah um i guess if there are any more questions to have those get emailed in um and yeah i concur with robert's sentiments as well all right let's move on to eight staff member comments uh madam chair members of the board i'll start calling the staff kathy anything madam chair members of the board kathy matthews mom's cape architect um we just continue working on projects um keeping things moving in particular we've been focused lately on the skate park assessment finishing that that report um on our existing skate park so that we can prepare to dive right into the skatepark renovation as soon as that funding becomes available from the state later this fall i want to let you know that we're continuing continuing with electrical improvements at veterans memorial park coordinating those improvements with the planning and design for the parking lot so that those two projects can move seamlessly together as soon as that project starts um i wanted to let you know as well that um highland park is we're nearing uh completion of the design process in highland park and so hopefully within the next um two three months i'll be reporting on um the construction bidding process and uh letting you know when we'll be actually starting construction on that project um those are just a couple of the highlights um and uh we're working on many many things of course but i i wanted to hit a few important things just to keep you up to date on a couple things we're doing thank you oh i apologize um i do have some items that franco branil wanted me to let you know about with regard to the work that parks section is doing so um we are working on internal design standards um so myself jimmy zabriskie our community forester and franco as well as other park staff will be creating internal design standards over the next several months to use as a reference and to pass along to community development so that we can start to inform the overall city design standards for landscape and parks as the community development department moves forward with modifying those design standards um we'll be incorporating some of the documents and policies and guidelines that we've already completed namely um tree care policy um uh median median design uh standards as well as as other standards such as irrigation standards and park amenities standards sports field staff continues to assist on maintaining trails and recently they laid down their first application of pre and post emergent treatments to help keep the weed issues under control tree work on hadley you may have noticed hadley avenue experienced some decline in the health of many of the trees on hadley avenue the issue was identified as an infestation of mites and so jimmy's the briskey our community forester is working on applying a miticide um to try to save those trees and they take several applications of the um miticide and likely we won't be able to tell the effectiveness fully until next spring when the trees leaf out again but just in case you have noticed those declining trees we are absolutely aware of them and we're taking steps to address the issue and try to save those mature trees the right-of-way and medium staff is working on the city beautification program called clean sweep they are entering into a four week cycle city wide so they cycle through each of the areas that need to be maintained on a four weekly basis parks gis staff is looking at the current schedule um to clean up and and readjust in order to reduce the driving time so we were trying to use our technology to realize some efficiencies and use our limited time and resources as best we can to accomplish the maintenance of the medians and rights of way and keep the level of service what our citizens expect construction staff is working on several projects including the installation of a sculpture called tree of knowledge at the callebuelo neighborhood park park's furnishing replacement program is moving forward uh we're replacing furnishings at benavidez community center park and also um working on ada tables and benches at the battlefield shooting range and uh construction staff is also working on um wood the wood chip engineered wood fiber safety surfacing replacement at playgrounds throughout the city also i want to let you know that franco will be compiling another list of winter projects for construction staff to work on um so that we can methodically accomplish the bigger kind of repair projects that need to occur including bollard installation in several parks and more intensive trail cleanup as well especially around the um i-25 university avenue interchange which of course is in a bit of disarray due to um new mexico department transportation construction that's going on there um and so our perk staff will be working to clean that lower portion along travis and remove some of the erosion in the sand building that has occurred due to the dot's construction project and that's the tip of the iceberg but it's some of the highlights again for parks as well thank you very much thanks kathy uh robert our parts section is amazing aren't they i have no no further updates ma'am thank you uh phil uh madam chair board members uh uh our staff will just continue to do uh what we're doing with the programming virtual programming we'll get this pickleball and tennis uh under control the best we can and working with those communities and what our staff is currently working on is what we're going to do in the future as we open up because we understand that that we have a need for the sports and the activities and we know that groups like baseball and basketball and volleyball and a lot of our other areas are not getting the opportunities that that pickleball and tennis are getting right now but we wanted to make sure that we do the best that we can for pickleball and tennis but we also want the community to know that we're looking out for them as well and we're chopping up the bit to get back to the sports and open up our fields and to do what we can for the future so our staff is focusing on what we're gonna do when we get back we're going to get that message out and continue to do what we're doing and again i want to thank the rec staff for all the great stuff that they've done thank you thank you phil sassy did you have anything thank you sonya um madam chair and board i will work with sonia and staff to get some faqs put together and get them posted on the website um as soon as possible so that so that the community who has the same questions and and may not be watching this this meeting can have that information as well that's it thank you thank you hazel any comments no comment uh madam chair members of the board sony delgado parks and recreation director i don't have anything else to add for this evening thank you all right thank you everybody um let's head over to board member comments i have a couple but i'd like to see if anyone else does too it's just me hello you dan um madam chairman i i would just like to um give a sincere appreciation to the parks and rec board i know that these are i don't like to use it this this word unprecedented times but um it seems to be fitting best so keep up the good work um kudos to each and every one of you and please pass that on to all of your employees and know that we're here with you and we just appreciate you each and every day and your due diligence to making sure that our community is safe so i just want to reiterate that to you all and make sure that that gets passed on to your employees also okay eric robert anyone else there's a no there i'm just gonna assume nose on the other end no quick short just appreciate the pickleball group for stating in cassie for you reading all that and uh them stating their opinions you reading it and sonia and staff appreciate you for taking these topics and kind of individually focusing with the groups at hand and trying to find the happy medium and i think that's kind of all that we're doing now you have to um of float the medium there's so much diversity going on that there's a favorite country song from aaron watson that has uh takes the left wing and the right wing to fly and i love it and um exactly i love sonia for taking into each consideration their concerns so that's that's my only comment there so i appreciate you all and uh talking and finding the middle ground on everything all i was going to say is that i really appreciate the enthusiasm for the pickleball community and tennis community to come out and support their efforts and that they've kind of been the i hate to say guinea pigs for this whole um reopening um but two i'd also like to sort of recognize that as a sort of model behavior sort of thing that i drive by pickleball on saturday mornings and the the group aspect has been actually kind of shocking for me too where we all have seating out there now and it just seems like we're we're we're sort of skirting the limits so i i appreciate the flexibility for parks and rec staff to kind of see that the play can happen but i think that there is sort of a responsibility that the group should take as well to police themselves um to basically say hey maybe we all don't need to be sitting here maybe this is not as communal as it had been in the past because there are changes that needed to happen so but i appreciate there's not a lot of people that will fight for you know what they want to do and i appreciate that wholeheartedly but i i think i can't speak for tennis because i never get out there but i drive by pickleball all the time and there is enthusiasm it makes me want to play pickleball but um i'm not that coordinated so thank you all and i think also staff for um it's it's hard to kind of do this because i think their heart's in the place where what phil said to we want to play we want to be out we want to be active and recognizing how exactly we do that and try to be safe numbers are getting better so here's hoping that it kind of changes and we can kind of get back to like a weird sort of normal right i think that's what we're gonna go for but with that said i don't know if anybody else wants to say anything if not there's an adjournment that could be happening but i can't vote for it i can't even i don't think i can call for it right adam chair this is eric i'm moved to adjourn do you have a second madam chair this is stan ingle i i second eric beat me to the to the punch okay all right all in favor aye aye all right thank you all for sticking with me thank you