[Music] it's closed would you call the roll excuse me let's do the Pledge of Allegiance Marylou is really display would you of all the board my board member board president Portman berdahl Han here remember a bethis to be here board member Gonzalez is absent board member Flores here well member Sanchez is absent for memory and data is absent chairman Ellen's oh thank you we remember Gandhara chairman Ellen's here are there any changes to the agenda Clint thank you I may have a motion to approve the minutes from the meaning of December 12th motion to approve the minutes zero second second thank you does any board member and have a item to be pulled for a separate discussion or vote hearing none would you pull the board please remember Bates us do they yes for member Flores yes we remember Sanchez yes chairman Ellen's yes the Minister for America gandara sorry next we will go to reports and presentations the animal control officers report chair board members married award done Union County Animal Control encode supervisor let me see if I can get this pulled up so we'll go ahead and start with our our report for December of 2019 for the county in 2019 we had 222 animals that were picked up none of those we had 194 going to the Animal Services Center of the Mesilla Valley to break those down a little further we had 21 of those animals were dogs that were owner released by their owners we had 210 stray dogs 36 stray cats 2 animals that were picked up under Karen where Karen welfare 21 animals that were injured for animals that were quarantined at the Animal Services Center four of them were quarantined at the court whole facility so that gave us a hundred to 90 for that we're totally going to the shelter on the side we had picked up one snake and 23 dead animals so the return to owner in the field in December we returned 53 animals in the field back to their owners that gave us a year to date of 893 animals that went back to their owners in the field instead of going into the shelter directly we scanned 229 animals in microchips that were found were 48 and other types of identifications were 28 that 800 and go back to the slide please the previous slide let me try to get back in okay Thanks here the next one that won the 896 year-to-date return donor and then the other categories how does that compare to past years compared to past years it's gonna be it's gonna be lower and I brought in 2018 just to kind of compare it to and in 2018 it's gonna be lower I didn't I didn't bring that in it's gonna be lower by a couple hundred or so okay and the reason for that is because we had less animals in the field or less animal control officers in the field so we have less people going to pick up animals and returning animals so the best boots on the ground so therefore we're going to be returning less any other questions on this side slide before I go on mr. chair thank you the miss Ford just curious with the Operation Clean Sweep that was going on in chaparral did you note it I guess because of that saturation that was going on in that area did you notice a significant uptick in these numbers or anything that for December and/or November and you might have mentioned it in our last meeting I just don't recall at the moment I actually have it further in on the slide if you if we could hold off a little bit on that try to get to that okay thank you so the next one I have is explanation of districts and I just wanted to go over these districts because I what I did was separate the districts and in in our County we have we haven't separated by districts one through seven which are the Sheriff's Department's districts and that's the districts that our department uses which is the name of one system districts and they're separated by hatch Garfield roe deer and corn Placitas so you can kind of see where you fit in that district as a commissioner or councilman if you're you know or what not and the the next slides will show you about what types of animals were picked up for the year in those districts so if you look at that and you look at cats that were picked up in 2019 by dish so district 1 we had a total of 10 cats that were picked up in district 2 we picked up 306 349 cats in district 3 we picked up a hundred district forward 339 cats district 5 or 112 cats district 674 district 7 112 so those are cats by districts then I went into dogs that were picked up by districts as well and the same applies for the same districts so district 1 we had 69 dogs picked up district to 236 district 3 313 district 4 332 district 5 where 350 district 6 133 and district 7 was 359 put the numbers next to the areas Marylou don't use the keyboard the mouse use the keyboard and use the back or back arrow sorry thank you you should have a handout where you can compare these as well sir on this for the slides it's got an outline and it should have the districts for you ok I see it thank you mm-hmm shall I proceed so overall if we go into the overall dogs and cats combined I just threw those together so district 1 was 79 district 2 was 585 district 3 was 413 district 4 was 671 district 5 was 462 district 6 was 207 and district 7 was 471 so I can kind of help us look at the hotspot areas in the districts when we're picking up the most amount of animals so inflicted by the number of animal control officers assigned to each district we don't have officers signed to districts we don't have that luxury right is it some days we only have one or two officers on duty for the entire county thank you so going into the types of calls the Honorable control officers responded to 814 45 calls for service for the month of December 22 of the animal control cases went to court in December and breaking those down out of the 22 cases there was 46 charges that equaled about 96 hours of in case in court in district I mean in magistrate court and 18.9 hours of that was into overtime there was 13 warrants issued there was 6 guilty pleas and out of those of guilty pleas we also asked for donations and we've got a total of $500 that went to donations to the Animal Services Center Mesilla Valley we had 7k 17 cases dismissed and they were dismissed for various reasons maybe the owners came into compliance and so we went ahead and dismissed him because sometimes we will do that if they come in compliance in 10 cases that were reset for different different dates we had 52 animals that were injured calls 8 cruelty calls 4046 vicious animal calls and 21 bike calls and then of course we educated or we got compliance on 65 licensing microchips 52 permits and 72 very rabies vaccinations and then we also educated owners on 64 care maintenance or ordinance violations now on our spanning neuter project in addition to what we've been reporting every month we this is the new report that was added for the month of December we had 34 cats and 87 dogs that were fixed in addition to what we've been reporting could you add for the new members and if it could you explain that program the spay and neuter project is a project that the county has been doing for quite a while now or I would say since June of last year and so what they're trying to do the initiative is is to have offer free spay and neuters to the residents of Dona Ana County so the county is paying for the free spay and neuter rabies vaccinations and microchips so they have used money through the pelt fun and that is allowing and residents to come to compliance the residents to get their animals fixed and so the long-term goal for that is so that we'll have less animals to pick up and less animals going into the shelter and less to be euthanized in the long run so the educational projects are there chaparral community sweep and our aces project all concluded in chaparral our community sweep was 812 self-initiated properties that were visited we picked up four animals we gave out 32 citations 54 warnings and 145 melt warning letters that were sent out to the community of chaparral is that is that Commissioner Sanchez is that clarifying what you were questioning earlier in regards to that Mister miss ward yes absolutely okay Karen thank you for the benefit of the new members would you describe who those creatures are on the right hand side yes commissioner so the Dona Ana County has several educational outreach projects we have one called the Aces which stands for Animal Control and code enforcement environmental survey that project started about seven years ago and what that ink consists of is a kind of a sweep but it is a what started as a non citation program where animal control and codes officers will go partner up and go into rural areas of the county and they will educate the residents on violations that they see after they do that they also bring in we bring in roll offs and resources into that community and means of a way to allow them to come into compliance as this project grew we also started going into the schools and educating the kids on illegal dumping recycling and things like that so we had books came out and these characters are the characters out of the books this is Carlos the coyote and Lizzy the lizard so they escort the officers in the schools to help educate as well and for that I'll stand for any other questions Thank You mr. chair and thank you Miss Award as far as the I just needed a definition of self-initiated properties visited as part of your career operation clean street community self-initiated means that the officer went out on their own they weren't dispatched or someone didn't call them to go out to that property they were patrolling and they saw something and so they decided to stop and investigate themselves so it was something that was something is shaded and the other question I have is about the overtime that spent when there are charges and officers have to appear in court is that typical well in the past it wasn't so much but because we are doing a lot of these community sweeps and we're doing a applying more citations on some of the community sweeps we are now seeing more overtime that is coming in because some officers there they're off on certain days of the week and so if there's subpoena for court for those days that means they have to come in for those days for subpoena for their court date and then the regular hours those are ours that are they are working and therefore they can appear and therefore their other regular correct their regular hours that they can appear for that court date there are also hours that they've put in to the time that's preparing preparing them for that court that that case before they go into court as well thank you mrs. Warrick thank you board member and better still thank you how many officers in total do you have for animal control at this present time we have nine now thank you and when sending out the warnings versus the mail warnings what is the difference between the two and how do you decide to do either one the mailed warnings are usually going to come from the codes officers but sometimes they'll come from the animal control officers so if we know a past history like a past information for somebody we can mail them something out if it's something that the officers there on the spot they're going to give that to them right then I do have Thank You mr. chair his ward so do you believe that there are enough officers to do all the enforcement that's necessary of these particular issues that you've delineated at this present time I of course we would always like more officers and so yes we we have one position that we're trying to fill right now when frozen position that we have for the County right now what would be the obstacle ideally it would be nice to have several more officers out in the field thank you thank you Thank You Marilyn thank you no let us hear from the city and I'm with dual officers sorry wrong one good good morning members of the board my name is Gino Jimenez I'm the animal control supervisor for the city of Las Cruces with Chairman's permission I would like to deviate a little bit I brought one of my new officers with me this morning and before I do my report I would like to introduce him to you if that is okay I'm gonna introduce to you officer Salvador agita he comes to us with seven years experience from various different agencies and I'll go ahead and let him introduce himself and explain and answer any questions in good morning board members as Gino said my name is salvo de eating I'm actually from here I grew up in Anthony New Mexico I worked with the city of El Paso as an animal control officer for about four years and then in 2006 I moved to Denver Colorado where I got to experience some of their animal control I actually worked animal control for the City of Aurora Colorado and then I worked for the City and County of Denver as an animal control officer so about seven years total an experience I've been I moved back home in July I started working with the city it's a good I'm enjoying it so far thank you guys if you have any questions for me welcome thank you excuse me thank you and we're fortunate enough to have Sal because what seven years experience I mean very limited training we could put him right back into right onto the streets so I'll begin my presentation this the numbers I will present to you are for December 2019 so in December 2019 we responded to 487 calls for strays 271 of them were DOA meaning that the officer did not have any contact with that animal of those we were able to apprehend 216 182 were impounded at the shelter of those were 128 excuse me 123 dogs and 59 cats we were successful in field RT owing 37 animals that had some sort of identification and those animals were returned to their owners rather than taking them to the animal shelter animal service center excuse me we were unsuccessful in 1919 were ones that maybe nobody was home they were unable to be returned at that time so that brings us to a total of 53 identifiable animals now typically we were doing a fiscal year report for the request of counsel for board members I was able to do this on a calendar year so this is my yearly report for the year of 2019 we responded to six thousand four hundred and thirty nine reports for strays of those thirty 162 or goe we were able to apprehend 3277 we were we impounded 2877 at the animal service center of those fifteen hundred and seventy were dogs 1307 were cats we were successful in field RT owing four hundred animals and of the ones that we came in contact with we were unsuccessful in five hundred and eight eight so that give us a total of 988 identifiable identifiable animals so if we go to my three-year comparison here's our reported strays so we're pretty consistent as I've said in almost every presentation I've done our numbers are pretty consistent luckily last year at this time in December our numbers were low which is good we always want to see that we can relate that to different reasons whether the holiday seasons and stuff like that here is our three-year fill our teal comparison again pretty pretty consistent and finally here's reasons for owner release of animals this comes to requests from board members so we had three that were only released for medical issues one was because they got into a dog fight and the owner could not afford the vet care and another one was ill and they requested euthanasia the second one number one we had one I should say a friend left the dog behind and that new owner could no longer care for it they didn't want it to be honest with you and we had one where the owner lives in an apartment complex where they did not have access to a yard and that didn't meet the the rates that violated the restrictions of the complex and here are our reasons for being unable to filled our tio animals 15 were animals that were identifiable however there was no contact by phone or at the resident with the dog owner one address the microchip address came back to an address in Dona Ana County which were limited in our jurisdiction we cannot go out of the city limits that address would have put the officer way out too far out of jurisdiction to be able to fill RTO that one and the other one is a microchip information was incomplete it came back to a mobile home community and there was no space number registered on that microchip information two were for ear tip cats one of those year Kipp cats was registered to a daycare summer and one was for the microchip registry would not give owner information again for the benefit of the newcomers are you explaining here to cats cats are our cats what we're considering right now we're working through the new definition with the revision our cats that are unknown that belonged basically to the community they've been trapped neutered and released and one way to identify them is to notch the ear or cut the tip off of the ear thank you you're welcome and finally home again which is one of the microchip registries they were offline the chip wasn't registered through shelter left through the shelter's program however home again was offline and the officer wasn't able to pull that registration information off of that web page and finally per request from board members here is I'm gonna go through them individually but this is just the page to show you what I'm going to do here is a November 2019 map of the strays within the city limits and also December 2019 so if you look at this map right here I hope this is coming up on your screen please is it up thank you this is a map for November 2019 this shows every straight call that we responded to within the city limits the blue are dogs the orange are cats and there are some small red ones there designate others now others would be squirrel skunks raccoons anything snakes anything other than cats and dogs so if we zoom in a little bit I can give you a better perspective for districts council districts or is it better to zoom out you please let me know was it better to leave it right there it please let me know so I know whether to zoom in or zoom out that's good mr. chair board member flourish Thank You mr. chair and thank you mr. Jimenez I just have a question how can a squirrel or raccoon or a state be a stray I mean aren't they in their environment no mr. chairman you had counsel because it's unwanted on that property so we will still respond to that call I see thank you very much all we simply do with the wildlife is we relocate it to a different area that's good to know the other question I have is on the RTOS that the whose chip egg negates that they're outside of the city outside of your jurisdiction excuse me is there any way of tracking contacting the jurisdiction they do fall into or do you what do you do with that animal even though it's chip mr. chairman council what we would do in that case is simply impound it at the shelter because at the animal service center it would be too much of a I won't say burden too much work to contact County Animal Control meet them at the county line and then turn it over to them to fill RTO it because we're looking at manpower as Marilu said earlier sometime there's only one officer on duty so I think most animal owners are programmed if you will that if their dog comes up missing their animal comes up missing the first place to look is within the neighborhood and then second of all at the animal service center so with that information the officer was able to leave a message and let them know that their animal was picked up and taken to the animal service center however he wasn't able to filled our Kiewit directly Thank You mr. chair Thank You mr. Jimenez so this is going back to the map this is no vet or I will pull up December's numbers so here are the the strays that we responded to for December 2019 not a lot of difference if you look at is really not all our calls are scattered throughout the city there is not one particular district council district or even police district that has more calls in another you'll see that west of i-10 or excuse me I 25 it's a more populated area of our city so therefore we're going to have more calls within those those districts if there's no more than any other questions I'll move on to the rest of my presentation mystery man is just curious I think the one thing I know there's obviously more population on the west side of i-25 but it just seems like there's not a whole lot of calls within the cinema Ranch area in particular so my first question was is there an event I've just being that I'm not as familiar with that area is there any type of ordinance that cinema Ranch has for pets that would minimize the number of calls in the internet mr. chairman Sanchez the ordinance doesn't designate one district differently from the other hey they're all inclusive no and that's why I didn't know if the if the area itself if there were any kind of covenants or anything within the the area the second question was deep do you track repeat calls that may be going on and that's why I say because they're so scattered but you generally see relatively in the same area I didn't know if there's if you have repeat offenders and if you look at that track that and how do you handle those mr. chairman council board member we don't track individual addresses per se however with years of experience as officers out in the street you remember going to a particular house over and over and over maybe first the same violation or something different but it always sticks out of your head we don't track that as for data purposes though so I'm not sure that we can without going through some pretty detailed data understanding I just curious just because I know this is just two months worth November and December of 2019 I said just that would be it's just like you said I think you I agree with your assessment right now it looks like it's just scattered you don't one particular hotspot other than maybe focusing on there an area there's nothing that sticks out in this data that would be I'd be curious anecdotally if that's what you see but I said I appreciate you this is a good this is a nice to see this data at least what what what you're seeing thank you thank you machine - thank you yes ma'am [Music] I'm sorry ma'am counselor um you came in pretty broken up there you go counselor Gonder can you repeat your questions Regina you were cutting in and out and we had to elevate the volume here in the council chambers mr. chairman council gondola I believe I heard part of what you were saying I can minimize this and show exactly where our cats are coming from so I can pull the data right here this is December 2019 s data for where our cats came from let me zoom in a little bit I believe that's what I understood ma'am is that does this pinpoint or answer your question better [Music] counselor sorry counselor this is David Allen one of the things that we Gino is not Juno's showing on the screen all of the cats that were calls were made not necessarily apprehended for the month of December well we were showing at the task force and we'll show at the next meeting which is on the 31st is where we have had cats a feral or community cats that were picked up or will we release multiple times by the shelter prior to we stopping them in this summer but Gino's profile on them on the screen is fairly indicative of there is a greater preponderance of cat or community cats west of i-25 it's not to say that there's not some in the east of i-25 but [Music] counselling under I believe I can go a little further on this so this shows a basic map of part of those cats who were called in it doesn't show specifically if you look at it you can think that it's a specific or one cat if I click on an on a on a spot that one there's a bad one but in some of these instances there were multiple cats picked up at one location right so let me see if I can find it so here we go on this one right here you can see that there's multiple entries for this one location right okay so this one shows four but because of where that the way the map was exploded if you want to it didn't show that there was four it only looked like one da so as you as you zoom in and out you'll be able to see that there were multiple calls at one particular address okay I appreciate that thank you you know you're welcome thank you I'm mr. chair there any more questions in reference to the map I'll move on to my next slide so one of our peak performance standards or measures for 2019 was our stray animal bite as you know for us for the city animal control we report our peak performance issues or topics one of them that we're very happy with because these numbers are excellent is that our peak performance standard was a 10% reduction in stray animal bike responses we were able to reduce that number by twenty two point two percent so in the year 2018 we responded to one hundred and eight reported stray animal bites in 2019 we responded to eighty four so that number is very very good for us it's telling us that we are efforts in educating on bite prevention in in the schools and in our other outreach programs has been effective and with that I will stand to answer any questions Gino on a mr. chairman on the stray animal bites how many do you track whether the animal is sterilized or intact mr. Cheviot uh mr. Donna no sir we do not that I believe would be a issue for Animal Services ported on the Sanchez back on slide three we were looking at the year-to-date numbers and in particular I think the one that sticks out to me is the total identifiable stray animals versus the strays apprehended and and just looking throwing out a rough number it's about 30 percent it looks like that we were able to identify and I know this is something that we felt we've I know this is have you gone on and we struggle with we struggle with in the county as well is you know I don't have the what the answer is and I'm just wondering if you know there's been discussion about rather than licensing we look at microchipping I believe you're all looking at the ordinance for the city how do i I don't know I don't know what it is but you know if we can find a way to get that number up and and I don't know if the licensing fee which I don't think it's prohibitive unless you have an intact animal you know how we how we get that number up and I'm I'm just curious I'd be curious to find on the next meeting how this number compares to 2018 and in justjust the ballpark I mean it's just you know is it more is it less but if we can figure out a way that that obviously along with our partners we've been doing snap we're doing I know our nonprofit partners here have done quite a bit of work to try to increase this number as well so but I think that's something we'll have or however between the city the county and all the municipalities within the county itself we can figure out a way to get this up I think it would it would help us out of the long yeah yes sir mr. chairman board member Sanchez and I'm glad you brought that up because it is one of our performance standards our standard right now is to have at least a 25% stray animal returned to owner that's that's our goal right now we're at 12.3% however if those 900 or 588 were to go home we would achieve 30.8% which would definitely exceed our goal that we have set for ourselves so absolutely I agree that being able to filled our tio and animal would benefit everybody and then not just even I mean obviously the RTO is even better so it doesn't have to go to the service center but you know even if if we had a means in which to identify a majority of these animals it would be that we knew they had a home to go to maybe that would reduce the amount of time they stay at the service centre someone comes and I understand there's various reasons why you can't field RTO but in particular if we could I can't increase the identifiable animals you know then in the end maybe that would also like you're saying it would increase your field RTOS it would but like I said I know we've talked about this and everybody I think it's kind of just stating the obvious but it just happened that I was curious to see where we're at from 2018 with 30% it was staggering to me I figured we would be a little higher than that so thank you thank you sir thank you Thank You Clint uh time for your report good morning my name is Clint Thakur I'm the executive director for the animals service center Mesilla Valley my beautiful deep voice is brought to you today by a cold that I've been battling so I apologize for that the animal service center Mesilla Valley's presentation today is going to be on numbers from December 2019 currently at the Animal Center has of yesterday we had 595 total animals in 2019 and compared to this year right now we have 505 intake versus 2018 we have 700 total in 2019 was 697 and that's a breakdown of in 2019 we had 475 dogs and 216 cats in 2018 when it was 465 dogs and 224 cats so pretty much exactly the same our outcomes compared to last year as well December you see we had more adoptions at 335 more reclaims 113 more rescues at 163 community cats at 39 go to the same last euthanasia 161 for a live release rate of 80 point two percent again for those that are watching they're new and our new board members live with E straight is the number of animals that leave the shelter alive so eighty point two percent of the animals that came into the shelter in December left live a no-kill status for any Center has the benchmark of 90 percent live released rate so we are currently two sent away from that in December of becoming our qualifying as a no-kill Center for that month went for the benefit of the new members will you toast the last time we were at 90% or better it was last spring March April time was when we were at 90% so we've hit at several times in the years since when the population gets higher than when we dipped down below that 90% so our surgeries the public RTO return to owner what that is is when somebody comes in their dog is lost they find their dog at the shelter and it's not neutered we offer that service for them so 34 people took advantage of that service 124 adopted animals we're done and 103 of the shelter animals that were going to be placed up for adoption were sterilized so 261 animals were sterilized in - in December of 2019 looks like a redo of the previous slide did I go back oh I did I clicked the wrong button sorry total visitors in December is two thousand nine hundred and forty eight and compared to the two thousand five hundred and thirty fund 2018 yes sir and that's all I have Thank You Clinton we will now move on to committee reports the Finance Committee mr. Dolan uh miss chairman Amador Espinoza the financial reporting analyst for the city will give the monthly financials we have not have a January meeting it is scheduled for next Monday afternoon late for the month of December the holidays really impacted our schedule so we should get back on that I believe Amador is presenting the clothes numbers through December but I will let him speak yes sir you are correct again my name is Domino Espinosa I am one of the accountants for the city of Las Cruces and will be presenting the animal service centers uh not a financial statements for December 31st 2019 looking at looking at pages number one your statement of net position your cash that just kind of went back I'm sorry go back one again page number one the general fund statement of net position your cash balance is at 280 mm your receivables is that ninety two thousand part of that receivables is the Dona Ana County receivable which was received in January total outstanding payroll liabilities are at sixty two thousand revenues collected in advance are the balance remaining balances there 3,700 then that's for the best friend revenue games that needs to be expended unassigned fund balance is at three hundred and eight thousand the next column over same page page one the capital projects months you have an unassigned balance of three thousand six hundred and that is for the start cats donation that remains that I believe the center is working on APO to get some of that money expended moving on the page to you of your financial packets that is the change in that position for fund the general funds 174 forty total revenues aggregate revenues are at 1 million five hundred and seventy one and total expenditures are at 1 million three hundred and sixty three after the fun the fun the transfer months to the the capital project funds you have a net change of two hundred and eight thousand moving on to you page number three in their financial packets those are your budget actuals your budget parameter for the month of December is at fifty percent overall total revenues are at fifty four point eight percent and total expenditures are at 48.2% looking more in detail looking at some of the revenue classes vaccinations are at 58.1% that's mainly due sometime in believe it was in Ogden September the center had a vaccination clinic adoptions are four point five percent above the parameter looking at the Dona Ana County city of Las Cruces there respectively there at seven point five percent above the threshold that's primarily because at the beginning of the year they pay twenty two percent up front of the 1.2 million agreed-upon appropriation the city of Anthony is at ninety five point seven percent I believe there just needs to be that budget needs to be reviewed some times for this year or next next year grant revenues kind of sticks out as a sore thumb we have a resolution pending for board approval that will adjust that budget and then the that will audacity budget actuals as far as the expenditures temp agency services the centers in the process of being fully staffed and as far as insurance are about ten percent above the threshold we are not agreeing the insurance premiums we are expensive directly normally we would do a prepaid and then we would allocate them on a monthly basis but based on a finance company they just wanted us to expense the the insurance expense the revenue graphs you just show the the Dona Ana County appropriation the city of Las Cruces appropriation versus all other revenues and then also disagree affable registration of the different various expenses again showing the temp agencies at six point sixty two point nine percent and the insurance premiums at sixty percent any questions saying none thank you thank you the executive committee is next with which I am chair we met on Martin Luther King Day actually because that was the only day that Cassandra and I could meet together we probably spent 75% of the meeting discussing the fiscal year 20 budget and the increases across the board which Clinton will explain in the moment they have been deferred until fiscal year 20 discussed the fact that we're gonna stop utilizing paper records and go to electronic records and that'll be subject of a resolution to come up later those are the main items of discussion any board member have any questions or comments next is the Facilities Committee and Clinton you are noted as being the presenter on this one yes sir thank you very much the Facilities Committee did not meet just a quick update on the committee are on the facility itself the impact project is going forward today is general contracting meeting and it's like a construction kickoff meeting we have at the ASC MV so we're excited to have that to be started and then 30 percent completion contract drawings were do or have been turned in I'm sorry for the new center and so that's exciting how that progress is moving forward as well that's all I have thank you any board comment at this point we're on discussion items and Queen Europe again you have 0 and 7 update oh I'm sorry guys that was kind of tucked away 0 & 7 update hello I'm Jean Gilbert the secretary for the Coalition for pets and people this presentation by the Coalition highlights seven community animal welfare organizations and the organisation's not listed will be highlighted at the next next meeting this slide highlights coalition activities for the year and a listing of meetings events event support and activities was has been provided in your packets showing the coalition's work for 2019 the coalition's mission is working towards a no-kill community which means that we advocate for best practices in animal welfare we work on policy change and we support the shelter and local groups with their programs and services and we work to bring more resources to those programs at the suggestion of Clint the animal services centers volunteer coordinator Emily Muir and I met recently to discuss humane education curriculum and ways that we can collaborate HSN M donated books for the center's use and Emily visited one of my kindergarten classes at Highland Elementary last weekend observe this session which was the story of Buddy unchained about a dog rescued and rescued in placed at a shelter and adopted after the dog had lived a life on a on a a chain two hearts four pauses a rescue located in Radium Springs and they have about 30 dogs at their location including the two pictured here they hold adoption from first Saturday of the month at pet Pet Smart APA rescued a total of 580 animals the majority of them from the shelter in 2019 their stats with their rescue numbers and a breakdown of those numbers for years for seven years 2012 through 2019 are provided in your packets their total rescue for so far in seven years has been four thousand five hundred and eighty animals an overwhelming need for APA is placement for cats they were successful last year placing three hundred and fifty three cats but right now they're over capacity and they need the community's help with adoption foster care barn cat placement and other options they placed they placed 25 to 30 felines in barn cat programs here's a picture of a piays condos where they house their cats and of course a lot of their cats tour with fosters and you can see here the location of their adoption center is 800 West Picacho and there's a listing of their hours and of course you can go there by appointment broken promises Southwest operates a kateri at Petsmart and also runs a sanctuary on the East Mesa and they adopted several cats in the month of December and also helped en art several trout neutered and returned several community cats last month and they do assist colony caregivers the picture in the upper right is a picture of a cat that that was TNR they also helped special-needs felines and they have to do a lot of fundraising for high medical bills broken promise donated insulated shelters for colony cats as you see here these styrofoam coolers are used for shelters and in addition to all these services broken promises is a tremendous resource for our animal animal shelter cats meow here you see pictured Alison Reynolds and Anne Markman who are board members of cats meow and the organization has an adoption center located at 2211 mesquite street and between the adoption center which houses about 35 in in their foster program cats meow adopted a hundred and twenty four felines this past year pictured here you see Callie and she's a senior kitty who was adopted to a senior person cherished canines rescued 469 dogs during the year 2019 and they adopted out a hundred and twenty eight and they transported 343 to rescue organizations in various states and their stats and information is also provided in your packets cherish canines rescues dogs off the streets and they provide foster care through volunteers veterinary care adoption and transport of animals and they also helped the Animal Services Center and they've taken in pregnant mom-mom dogs currently they have over a hundred dogs in their care and including the one pictured the ones pictured here who came from a back back backyard breeder broken I'm sorry better like pet foods and other pet businesses offer complimentary or discounted grooming services for rescue animals and here you see a pair of probably lots of out some mixes that through better life pet foods loyalty program one their clients donated grooming services as kilmer this helps them yes on the puppies that were seized from a backyard breeder under what authority were they able to do that they were contacted cherish k9 was a contacted by Animal Control there they work with animal control sometimes do as well as the yes shelter well obviously they had to go when the property is yes and the backyard reader passed away okay what legal authority did they have to go on the premises I'm sure it was through animal control if I remember I've heard this story but I don't know all the all the details I'm not sure and this is on Dona Ana County Humane Society and they provided over 70 vouchers covering the cost of adoption fee Dona Ana County Humane Society provided over 70 vouchers during the year 2019 covering the adoption fee of shelter pets adopted to seniors and they provided financial aid for more than the 600 community pets like like the Bulldog Apollo pictured here this past year through their animal animal Relief Fund so they're helping assist with veterinary costs and needs and they offered they've offer free behavior training also this another one of their programs and they did that for over fifty dogs adopted from the shelter and dogs that are in the ASC MVS foster to adopt program these stats and other info are in your packets fundraising is ongoing for the Dona Ana County means society like it is for all of us 501 C 3s and they've been very successful with their paint to adopt fund I'm sorry paint to donate fun fun fundraising as you can see with the picture here the Humane Society of southern New Mexico pictured here are children in their Forever Friends program at Highland Elementary HSN M donated over five hundred books largely animal theme stories and books to children and teachers during the year 2019 the organization adopted 55 animals during the year through their foster program and adoption partners HSN Em's pet helpline averages over a hundred calls a month and callers are helped with finding resources for a range of needs lost and found homeless medical issues and other needs and these are all efforts to bypass the shelter and to help reduce shelter in intake of animals HSN M provided over 300 education sessions during the year and their cans for critters fundraise $1400 money used his chip ins to help the animals with medical needs let's see HSN M has reached the nine thousand mark now for registering microchips for animals and the presentation ends with the no-kill equation this slide with a listing of programs of no kill equation shows the services that we must continue to build and that we must continue to expand for life-saving and while our community is doing all of these things it isn't at the capacity that we need to meet the enormous needs and the volume of animals who need our help so we encourage people to get involved whether it's volunteering directly with the animal services and/or with other local animal welfare groups or through partnerships networking fundraising advocacy and the countless other ways that we can help and this information comes from the no-kill Advocacy Center and they offer do-it-yourself books on ways that so the Nokia Advocacy Center is really a tremendous resource on this topic and that concludes the presentation if there any questions from anyone mr. Sawyer's Thank You mr. chair and thank you mr. Murray board member or counselor but not commissioner yeah not Commission okay oh no no thank you thank you miss Gilbert I just have a question about Apollo the picture of Apollo I'm not the one who's been caught 52 times no sir it's an every it's a different about we are on discussion items at this point hey unhappy story but you may proceed thank you very much sure so my name's cliff Thacker executive director at the animal service or misty Valley it's been a hard January and this is why as we begin start as you started to fill our positions in January and December who's actually when we found out in late December the budget Department was telling us so we're filling positions that were not budgeted for and we were confused by that so we started looking at what they had compared to what we had for funded positions and it turns out that nine positions were not we're not carried over from last year to this year due to a clerical error that clerical error could have been with my side with me or it could have been with the city we're not exactly sure but the clerical error happened nonetheless these positions are positions that already had people in them when the new budget year started on some of these positions so we we were all very both sides were very taken aback about what what had happened what it occurred so in other words what I'm saying is we were spending money in positions that were not budgeted for so it was taking from our entire personnel budget if you remember some of our percentages are our percentage our spending for the personnel budget was high and we were wondering why is that percentage of usage so high and this is why before I go any further I'd like to give special kudos to Michael Fushimi he's our management analysis he's the one that has really been the to help us on this put the numbers together figure things out and give us a clearer path of choices that we have to do so I appreciate his expertise on this so to go down unfunded positions the first line there was two hundred twenty two thousand two hundred and three dollars with the shortfall for the retirement or with the retirement and the dental it came out to be three hundred and thirty seven thousand four hundred and twenty four dollars that we needed to cover that was a shortfall so with Mike's help Bernice and I managers sat down and we said okay we need to fill these positions so I elected to fill the positions that we currently had offered positions to so we have six positions that we had say we had told people we like to hire you pending a good turnout on drug tests and background chest chip checks so we're gonna fill those positions and the reason why is is because we're going to stop using our rebate early cut our temp agency services amounts so it was cheaper to hire somebody than it is to continue to using the temp agencies for that but our remaining vacant positions for instance we have our kennel assistant our kennel manager assistant left and so we're not going to fill that position so salary savings and vacant positions we were able to save a hundred and sixty-five thousand eight hundred and fifty dollars and then we like a count shocked employees again let me let me stop him back up over the last four weeks Mike was able to go back and do six-month projections he looked at our six months of our previous spending and projected out what we're going to be so if there were surplus in any of those projections that's where we started making some of our cuts so the contract employees is our veterinarians so we cut that at twenty thousand dollars we still believe that we're able to continue on with the same amount of surgeries and if we stick to the to the amount that they're contracted to to the thirty-five and that's generally what our veterinarians do is 35 animals a day scheduled overtime we took excuse me we took all of the overtime remaining and starting February or subside starting January 31st is when we're stopping in so february 1st is when we're gonna be starting no monetary over time it's going to be comp time so all of our employees will be getting the the comp time or time instead of money our temp agency services you said we cut that $1,900 and then the PSC adjustment is personnel services adjustment the 4100 that's the 3% raise that the board gave me you see a resolutions on there to defer that raise so I'm not going to take that raise until the new budget year so with those cuts that goes to two hundred and forty thousand eight hundred and fifty dollars but we still had more that we need to come up with so we did our I went to our operating budget and we looked at we did get we did a six month projection with Mike's help and we were able to cut basically nickel and diming our operations budget we cut it by ninety four thousand seven hundred and eighty one dollars and we're talking two thousand dollars here two thousand dollars there one of the bigger ones is we stopped all it referrals all of our advertising so we have fifteen thousand three hundred dollars there that we froze we're not going to do any advertising and then again nickel and diming here and there are temp agency services we are cutting fifteen thousand dollars out of that because we're hiring six new employees we shouldn't be needing to have those temporary positions maintenance and repairs at the facility we believe with our six months of prior spending we're still able to cut thirteen thousand five hundred out of that eClinical so we can have some more and still be able to carry through with the maintenance especially with the HVAC project that's going to be starting here in a couple weeks we're able to make those cuts so that still leaves us with a deficit of 1793 dollars however with any type of salary savings that we have with people that may leave and also savings of our budget that if we don't spend we feel that we're going to be able to cover that but continued deficit of that seventeen hundred dollars coming into the next year so I presented this idea or this plan I should say to the Finance Committee and they approved of it they said that it looks good and then I presented it to on Thursday last week I let my co-workers know about it we had a great meeting in our main lobby close the shelter's so we're all able to meet had a question to answer period and then letting you know about it and then tomorrow is our staff meeting so we're able to get even more feedback tomorrow morning when staff has a chance to think about it things have soaked in a little bit what we're going to occur there so on the good side and nobody was nobody lost their jobs we did not want to cut any jobs at all and also we're hiring six new people and we're also able to do it without lowering or losing any hours of operation at the center we were able to do that as well so I wanted to be the board aware of what what is occurring I'll entertain any questions we have a board member advertise to them Thank You mr. chair when by chance has the center last had an audit done or any sort of third party or internal so we're part of the cities on it so it's done every year and would any was this not found to be an issue during that audit no I don't think personnel is part of that audit it's more of financial transactions and records that look around and has there been any talk yet on what process improvement implementation needs to happen to make sure that this doesn't react or that we make sure that we aren't missing anything yes we have what we're doing uses we're changing the way we do our budget Mike in has come up with instead of having just one big budget for the center we're breaking it down into departments so surgery is going to have their own budget the operation is going to have their own budget and the animal services the animal caregivers you're gonna have their own budget so they know what they're in charge of they have their employees they have all those things in each one and then of course I'll be overseeing all of those budgets so it's a much cleaner way that we can work that towards and it's currently in the making because we follow the city's budget schedule and so the city is currently in the process right now of getting those in those numbers in okay and for a clarification how long was it that this error was occurring for before it was noticed I would say July of 2000 team until December 2019 Thank You mr. chair miss Harris Thank You mr. chair mr. Thackeray I appreciate all the work that you've done I know we taught you you brought this forward I know to the Finance Committee back in December and there was already tough discussions that we had of that I really appreciate the the creativity it's not obviously I know this isn't a great subject and I appreciate the communication you've had with your organization understanding you're still continuing that getting feedback and and so hopefully these types of things obviously not all say they're well-received but that they're willing to work with you because I think you've done some phenomenal things I think the animal service center there's been a lot of changes so I just want to say commend you on the work that's been done the fact that you found it in December versus later on I think was better I think it allows you some flexibility that she that you've shown here so I just want to say thank you for the efforts you've put in over the last month month and a half to figure out a solution to try to get us back within the budget so like I said I and I empathize with the kind of conversations you have to have within the organization or at least trying to get that feedback but like I said I think the communication that you've had is to be commended so thank you Pournami flourish Thank You mr. chair and thank you mr. Thacker in the chart that I'm looking at that's on the screen at this time it says that the contract employee excuse me vacant positions are 165,000 hundred fifty dollars well the money isn't the question I have but that won't that line but do you think I think you just stated that you will be hiring more people so can you explain how that works you have the vacant positions which comes up to a certain amount which goes to offset the deficit correct but then you said they're gonna you're going to be hiring more people yes the vacant positions does not include those positions I'm sorry but the vacant positions that 165 does not include the positions that we are going to be hiring for that the vacant positions so we have positions that are vacant like like I said the kennel is sister manager that position is vacant so we're not gonna fill that one we have a pet grooming that is vacant a records clerk that's vacant so who are the personnel yo behind hiring our office assistants and animal care givers oh and those weren't part of the ones you itemized this weaken Isis correct thank you very much mr. Thackeray's Thank You mr. chair well those vacant positions that you're not going to fill will they be filled in the next fiscal year yeah so the hiring freeze is going to stop of course in the new bunch of your starts in July 2020 also what we're doing is instead of instead of let me start over what we're going to do is offering comp time and or I should say the overtime pay starting in July so it's giving the the staff a little bit of a plus it's something we've never done it was always money and there's some employees that do prefer to get time versus the money so that we're gonna start doing tracking that in July in the new budget year as well so there are some pros and some things that are improving a little bit through this very dark cloud I can't I can't tell I can't say enough for the my co-workers there at the animal service centre people were saying at that the meeting it was during the day and we just closed the shelter just for a half hour so we could have a meeting and as as I explained this spaces were kind of like we were shocked they didn't they didn't know and I explained it the exact same way I explained it to you guys and they were saying things like thank you for being honest thank you for being open I think you're being transparent but I know it's hard for them because a lot of them rely on that overtime paid as as income so I told them that we are going to get on it and get it get it back going in July as soon as we can so thank you committee report members Louise thank you mr. chair and thank you again mr. Thakur so instead of overtime I'm sure there's been an analysis as to the benefits and the detriments of paying overtime as opposed to a fixed income is that addressed when you go through all of this or I said I'm not privy to those but I'm just wondering I mean it seems like overtime is so unpredictable and it is I think very hard on employees not to know if they can depend on that as you just stated so hey it has that been explored full-time but I mean increase in pay thank you we just received a large increase in pay part of a salary survey last year and so all holla please were able to get a fairly good raise and bring us back up to date a nation scale of where employees need to be so will overtime still be an issue damn predictability if over time or the reliable you think oh I think I think it always is I mean when when you're making $12 an hour overtime it's always a little nice to make the check a little bit bigger I don't it's it's not always available I mean when I say when I say overtime is looked at it's not like people are signing up for overtime we don't have that it's people are they we're talking one hour or two hours of a period this is what we're talking about there we go I appreciate the transparency I know how difficult this is to have to stand there and present this information not only to us but to your colleagues as you call them but my questions are to piggyback on a few that board member a basis to be asked about the audit not typically when we've had an audit in the last four years which is every year the chairs are invited to that exit interview and I was not invited nor I understand and you have the other executive committee members some of the line of questioning was that it's not typically personnel but yet I had financial I want to ask David if that's something that typically an auditor would look into or that someone have to point out like Glenn or the accountants at the city there's a 57% increase we're not sure where it come from and you look at it Kesler Gandara the david is not currently here he had a meeting he had to step out for but that's something that I can speak with him and ask him in the Finance Committee meeting on Monday I'd like for that to be asked but also I am asking for an additional audit and/or a conversation with the executive about that former Adam previous audit because I don't even I'm not even aware of what the findings were if there were any findings are there any concerns should be that we should be privy to so I'm asking for an independent audit I get well within our rights to do so yes ma'am we do have the audit was concluded and there there was a finding and we're going to present that in February they did not have hard copies ready for us to present it in this meeting was the reason why would the audit was not a resolution to accept the audit was not done for this meeting but you will have it in February right right I guess I'm trying to make a point to the cities that typically in the four years that I've participated and we've always been invited and we were not at that exit interview and the other part of that is trying to connect the dots from finding the Finance Committee to that audit and making sure that if there are any questions or concerns that we are addressing that accordingly that make sense yes ma'am and I it it would be very beneficial as well to have HR and budgeting in that meeting to have that discussion because when we were getting information from budgeting they had names of individuals that hadn't worked at the animal service center for years even before I'd been there that was that was on there and HR didn't have them of course but budget did and so obviously there's a breakdown in communication between those two departments somewhere so it is it would be a good conversation to have yes yeah and so I do want it just for the public to know that another issue in a different venue a different on organization came up that I that I participate in and I did have a conversation about it with the interim city manager and apparently the audit firm that we hire had a new individual facilitating the process and a new person with the city size sort of facilitating everything and so I think some things work for Kahn because people you know new people at the table not familiar with the process and I just want to make sure that when we do have these audits that you know we're leading the we're leading that charge it's we hire them to do the work and so we want to make sure that we are addressing every aspect and I just don't know how that communication is happening so again I'm recommending an independent audit so that we can look at that and make sure that this doesn't happen again secondly in the line of questioning from board members notice I think was excellent and I think what I heard her say or maybe the outlying outlying question was do you have a budget specifically for overtime and yes we do you do you know a lot a certain amount of money and one view and see that you don't operate anymore or how does that we've never we've never seated okay about a mouth okay sounds good that's all my questions thank you German Ellen I see there are no more questions thank you for doing what you did in a very good way we are now onto action items we have five resolutions to approve I'll read the first one a resolution Oh ma'am may have a motion to approve resolution number 2020 - 1 some moves second the resolution to defer the December 2019 3% pay raise of executive clinic or until July of 2020 as outlined below whereas the executive director was approved a 3% raise in December of 2019 and whereas the animal service center of the Mesilla Valley personnel budget is trending to have a deficit by June of 2020 and whereas the S can the staff will not be getting a deserved increase in pay and whereas Glenn Thacker the executive director requests the deferment of the 3% raise awarded in resolution 2019 - 12 till the first full pay period of the 2021 budget year now therefore the board of directors of the animals serves the center of the Mesilla Valley hereby resolves that Clint Thakur executive director have a 3% raise deferment until the first full pay period in 2020 21 budget year it's a board discussion sir public comment would you hold the roll please Palmer betas do there yes remember Flores yes remember Sanchez yes remember gandhara what remember candana yeah Thank You chairman Ellen's yes the motion is passed and approved resolution 2020 day 0-2 MOU signature Authority have a motion to approve the resolution so moved second been moved and seconded a resolution to give these animals service center of the Mesilla Valley executive director authority to sign an MoU use with cities and other government organizations for services rendered at or through the animal service center as outlined below whereas the executive director is complying with requirement with the request from the Animal Center board to reinstate mo use with the cities and other government organizations and where is the animal service center executive director which is to implement the mo use upon receipt of them and not wait until the next board meeting and where is the same process has been done in the past now therefore the board of directors of the animal service center the Mesilla Valley hereby resolves that Clint Thakur executive director have the authority to sign the MOU use with cities and other government organizations as they relate to services rendered or through the animal service center of the Mesilla Valley is there more discussion is there public comment who would you call the roll boy remember bed is still there yes remember Flores yes boo member Sanchez yes Palmer Gandhara yeah chairman Ellen's yes the motion is for the resolution is approved resolution 20-20 2903 they have a motion to approve the resolution so moved second it's been moved and seconded a resolution to recognize this animal service center the Mesilla Valley shelters software electronic records as the main records for retention of the service center is outlined below whereas the animal service center is aware of waste and is attempting to me as paperless as possible and whereas the animal service center uses an advanced web base shelter software to input all animal related notes records pictures etc and whereas the center software is secured with Amazon RDS encryption as are its automated backups read replicas and snapshots and whereas animal RDS also supports the use of SSL to secure data and transit which is the same encryption protocol as used by banks and other financial institutions now therefore the board of directors of the animal service center of the Mesilla Valley hereby resolves that the electronic records from the center soft will software will be their main records actually will be its main records its running board discussion so public comment would you call the roll miss granddaughter go ahead please I'm getting lot Jarett mr. sheriff you could read the security portions there again which paragraph is that I whereas the center software is secured with Amazon RDS encryption has are its automated backups read replicas and snapshots Amazon RDS also supports the use of SSL to secure data in transit which is the same encryption protocol as used by banks and other financial institutions so counselor the reason why I hadn't read that is because it talks about the ways that it's going to be protected and also mentions replicas and snapshots so the way that our current Shalford love they take the replicas and it's backed up and also the current data is also backed up so we shouldn't have we will not have any issues with things getting quote unquote lost the pieces I got was protected from malware and securities I believe yes it is going to be protected from those okay okay that's ready and counselor I believe I'll just add that you're probably more secure having it on the cloud the way that the backups are that way if anything's access via the you know internally within the service center all that cloud backup is kept separately and and segregated as well I believe Amazon and I believe Microsoft are just two examples of approved services I think that even the federal government utilizes now cuz I know there's been a lot of rigor around how trustworthy the cloud services can be and I know this is from what I'm aware I know Amazon is one of the ones that are being utilized by the federal government as well I believe good thank you is there any further discussion remember basis to be yes remember FLOTUS yes we remember Sanchez yes remember Gandhara yeah chairman Ellen's yes resolution 20 20-4 I will just read the title after I have a motion to approve so moved second motion has been approved and seconded a resolution to accept the $25,000 bestfriends grant for first time impound fees and adjust the adopted fiscal year 20 budget sorry board discussion is there any public comment would you call the roll what member about this to be yes remember Flores yes remember Sanchez yes remember Gandhara yes chairman Ellen's yes resolution 20-25 20:29 oh five and I have a motion to approve some of that's been moved in second in a resolution to adjust the adopted fiscal year twenty budget allowing for adjustments within various budget line items and transfer amounts to account for local grant funds expended in fiscal year nineteen and to redirect state grant funds to cover expenses supporting improvements to the center's cat room it's a fairly lengthy resolution I will not read the entire text discussion is there public comment would you call the roll what remember debate just do it yes remember Fedora's yes we remember Sanchez yes what member can Dada yes chairman Ellen's yes we are now on to election of officers and committee members assignments for the coming year pursuant to the joint powers agreement between the city and the county the chairmanship rotates between each entity every year I've been the chair for the last year and at this time it's appropriate for a member of the from the City Council to be a member of to be chair of the board and I assume that the city has come with a recommendation and motion to appointment yes sir how much hair made Baptist obey Thank You mr. chairman I'd like to motion to have a board member hitan Councilwoman Flores be president is there a second I'll say it are there further nominations hearing none there public comment for discussion call the roll please board member betas 2v yes remember Flores yes remember Sanchez yes remember Gandhara yes chairman Ellen's yes likewise the vice chairmanship rotates between the city and the county and this time it's the County representative who will be the vice chair which miss Sanchez do you wish to be the vice chair sure yes you don't have to I mean no I will I would appreciate that all right I nominate Commission Sanchez for Vice Chair second been seconded is your board discussion public comment I will remain on the executive committee as the former immediate past president has also required by the JPA please call the roll what member paid the survey yes remember Flores yes remember Sanchez yes board member Gandhara yeah chairman Ellen's gladly yes now we will go to committee member assignments there are three committees the Finance Committee the things of committee and the Facilities Committee now the executive committee is composed of the current chair the former chair and Clinton Thacker oh and the vice chair yes so those really I would I would ask for a motion to approve those positions so moved second moved and seconded would call the roll what remember about the stupid yes we remember device yes remember Sanchez yes remember Gandhara yes chairman floated Ellen's excuse all right Finance Committee mr. da Mahan you have been in the committee who would like to serve on the Finance Committee mr. chair I'll serve on the Finance Committee okay Commissioner and how many members are there in the Finance Committee three we need two more I'd I would like to continue on if I can all right Commissioner Sanchez board members Flores are there any other people who are interested in serving on this committee mr. Dahle Han will serves anyway does he not yeah so there will be four members true all right one of you has to decide not to be on the committee yeah I believe we've had is one presentative from the county one represented from the city and then mr. Dullahan is a cherry so okay why by default all right so the committee members would be board members Kundera board members hunches and David cohan celibate too stupid oh you okay you was drew I withdrew I withdrew I'm Flores she's a bait to Stewie great today you said gun data okay I think you meant to say Ave disturb you I thought Commissioner Genaro didn't you say you would like to be on the committee hello let me get this straight we got Commissioner Sanchez Commissioner today yes and David tell him okay would you call the roll please it's a stupid yes we remember for Lotus yes remember Sanchez yes remember Gandhara yeah Thank You chairman Ellen's yes all right the last committee is the Facilities Committee and how many members on that one three as well I would like to serve on that committee I would like to continue to serve on that committee as well and the third member is Clint no sir it's you're gonna have chemistry gonzales councilman gandara Commissioner Allen's and then also we're ex-officio member ward should also be on that committee because the other city representative is on the facilities the JPA states that the other the county ones should be on the other committee and that is ex officio member ward all right so the Facilities Committee would consist of me Mary Lou and who else Gondar appender oh she said she wanted me on that and then commissioner Gonzales in absentia okay so really come in who do you call the rule and we should be okay because that is only that's three Commissioner or three board members on there okay remember better stupid yes we remember floaters yes remember Sanchez yes remember Gandhara yeah Thank You chairman Ellen's yes generally speaking the executive committee meets two or three or four days maybe a week prior to the regular board meeting which is now the the fourth Thursday of the month and I'm not sure when the finance and Facilities Committee meets is it as the call of the chair or what yes sir it's it just depends on the members and one they can best meet it's best if we have a day and then we can just set that out you know first Thursday second Thursday whatever day it is and set that out for the rest of the year and then we can have that on the calendar schedules and that works best for everybody I did another clarification who is the chair of the Finance Committee the the chair was mr. Dahle ahem and we had moved the Finance Committee meetings the third Monday of the month mainly so that way we could then have the financial of the final financial reports for the month that would be reviewed prior to the regular board meeting so as of right now that's where we've had it as a third Monday of the month of the finance and then mr. dullahan is the chair and I believe the Facilities Committee was meeting and counselor gana if you can correct me the first Thursday of every month at 8:30 a.m. at the Animal Services Center if that still works for everybody that's a day that are already planned out Heidi the executive committee chair is the incoming chair board member Gondor would you like to be chair of the Facilities Committee sure good thank you this point we'll move on to public input is there public input are the chair or board comments I want to welcome the new members which I should have done at the opening of this meeting you'll find I think these meetings are quite interesting there being no further business we are adjourned without objection you