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you're on okay well good morning
everybody welcome to our special City
Council meeting today is Friday April
24th 2020 it's approximately 9:30 a.m.
before we begin if you please join me
the Pledge of Allegiance please sign
them is going to be the conflict of
interest they meant that swirl I asked
if any member of City Council city
manager any member of city staff has any
known conflict of interest on any item
on the agenda they see none now we have
two resolutions first one two point one
is item 2.1 is resolution number 2 0 - 1
4 7 no motion and second please
move to approve mayor ok motion made by
the council asked a second by Mayor Pro
Tem under that and looks like they have
a dollar hand we'll discuss a moral
cancel this is Robert caballo with the
City Attorney's Office and I'll be doing
the presentation for this particular
resolution which is for extending them
the emergency may the mayor's emergency
Proclamation first off can everybody see
my presentation yes good so just to sort
of recap on March 20 2009 Grisham
lujan-grisham actually created a issued
her executive order 20 2000 for which
she declared a state of public health
emergency to respond to the kovat
pandemic on March 27th 2020 City Council
passed the emergency
the emergency declaration ordinance
which allows the City Council and the
mayor to exercise their powers through
emergency powers through a proclamation
on April 7th 2020 the mayor issued an
emergency Proclamation and this was to
potentially get a FEMA funds for
reimbursement for our expenses to
respond to the pandemic crisis whose
also to allow the LCPD to be authorized
them to enforce the quarantine or stay
at home orders from the state now under
us LC LC MC Section 938 be that that
proclamation but what it ended in three
days on a noon on April 10th City
Council on the 10th of course extended
that for another 14 days which ended on
April 12 gonna end at noon today now as
I said that proposed the resolution here
today extends the emergency Proclamation
again for additional 14 days to May 8
2020 under Section 93 938 see the
extension runs concur with a new mexico
mix of governor's executive order 2020
0 22 which extended the the public
health declaration to April 30th the
good thing about this proposed
resolution there's an automatic
extension built-in - which means that
this Proclamation will be extended
additional 14 days if for example the
emergency statement the state's
emergency orders are extended further
and with that here your options and I'll
open up the questions thanks Rob so
basically nothing has changed from the
last time we did this this is just
merely extending it because the line
that the length of the or life of the
ordinance only has 14 days and so we
need to do it again before it expires
city at noon is that correct that's
there is one additional thing the
there's an automatic provision in there
so where there's not an extension so now
every 14 days we won't have to come back
so this also ends though if whatever
reason let's say the governor declares
the declaration of emergency orders is
ended here it's going to end on April 30
if there's not gonna be an extension or
let's say there's a victor for whatever
reason there's a determination it should
end the governor ends at April 29th that
you know it makes an automatic ending at
that point gotcha okay okay let's see
here we have councillor sword
oh no let me get the David first they
have a dollar you have a question no sir
mr. mayor I just wanted to let you know
that we received notice this morning
that the governor's extended the
executive order to meet 15 right gotcha
okay thank you for that and yeah because
I thought it was May 15th also but okay
counselor sort and then councillor
Vasquez
okay mr. mayor um yes I also heard just
last night in fact it was extended to
the May 15th
I'm sure we're all getting messages and
and requests to change the order to open
up more businesses I just want to make
something very clear to all of us that
about that particular request or that to
picture particular action - do we even
have the ability to change the
governor's orders I don't believe so
counselor okay thank you so just
straightforward like that okay that's
fine thank you so much a lot all over my
hand yeah let me just before I get to
cow service kissimmee r Pro Tem so the
governor had a press conference on I
think it was Wednesday and and her press
conference was at 3 o'clock and at 2
o'clock she had invited the certain you
know some too many mayors
around the state to listen to her
initial talk and in there and I notice
the reason why when I'm talking is
because I want to say this is because
it's different than what was reported in
the paper although today's paper
Algernon
got it really pretty good he was able to
articulate what the governor had said
because in our talk she had said that
starting next week she's going to start
really seeing certain businesses to open
so that they're all open by May 15th
okay not now not all excuse me let me
clarify this
so she said she's gonna start with
things she specifically said flower
shops and nurseries
I remember those two and she said
they're going to be more AG related and
and she wants to do that the first week
so that it doesn't over overload the
system and then the next week they're
gonna come up with a different industry
she talked about pet groomers and she
stopped right there and then and then
that's where it stopped and so she did
say the most problematic and the ones
that's gonna be the most difficult are
gonna be the bars and the nightclubs she
said that so I just thought I'd share
that with you with the counselor
okay so we have councillor Vasquez and
then Mayor Pro Tem Marin thank you so
much for clearing that up that's
important to me
sure Thank You mayor thanks for asking
that question counselor sword no we've
gotten that request and I'm fully
supportive of extending our local
municipal resolution for an emergency
declaration to run concurrent with the
governor's Proclamation as well I just
want to say you know message to
constituents out there who may be
watching is just that we're all in this
together I know folks are getting
impatient
I know that there are certain counties
and certain folks that are talking about
acting hastily and in my opinion
unwisely to reopen and you know I think
yesterday we saw the biggest spike in
cases recorded yet in New Mexico and so
to me it it's a clear signal that we're
not we're not even close to being to
where we want to be however I am
appreciative
of having a plan in place to reopen one
certain markers are met and so I have
full trust and confidence in the in the
governor and her staff who have done a
tremendous job up to this point to
really protect the majority of New
Mexican communities and so just want to
offer my support and also just to say
that for myself and I know other members
of the council we're all paying very
close attention right to where where
those markers are going to be at for us
to start pushing to reopen but as of
right now I just feel that it's just
though still not safe so thank you mayor
appreciate it and support this thanks
counselor
let me just say a couple more things
before I get that Mayor Pro Tem I think
you're gonna see that any business that
does open their all the employees are
gonna have to wear masks and gloves and
I and I think they're probably gonna
have to take the temperature before they
go to work and if they have a fever of
100 or higher they're sent home and the
customers that are walking in they may
have to also have ppes as well so it's
gonna be pretty strict but and I think
there's probably gonna be of course a
social distancing and there may be still
be a limit as to how many people can
congregate inside of a so I'm sure that
with you as well
Mayor Pro Tem Thank You mr. DeMaio for
your presentation and to my fellow
councillors in their questions and
concerns Mary I appreciate I appreciate
the the explanations given I am my
comments and questions are going to be a
lot of what comes from us gets to sort
of alluded to and that is I know that
our community is empty
some people would use the word angst
we've had a local business person want
to do an event Friday and I was deeply
concerned
about that because I felt especially
where the location is that they have
quite a few higher numbers if you will
of known cases and so I I guess I'm I'm
concerned about I read in the paper
about this group of business people that
will be advising the governor and I want
to know if there are advisors from the
southwest side because I think that's
important and and almost always if we're
not jockeying into position this the
southern part of the state gets lost in
the translation just lost completely in
terms of representation and I want for
our business people to feel that they're
heard and we have a very unique
situation here and that we're a border
community and so we are our neighbors
are you know another state that was
talking about opening up and and our
neighboring country where lots of folks
have family who go seek medical
attention not only medical attention but
medical supplies medications I'm deeply
concerned about about that and so I'm
not suggesting that up in the northern
part that it's not any different it
isn't but it is it is and so I feel very
strongly that we I want to make sure
that our business people are represented
that they're heard that they're seen and
I know that we are about I also am
fearful that they're making decisions
based on not having scientific um
scientific evidence right or people to
help inform them and so how do we do
that I know that the first
days that we went into session another
special session we had Carrie Hamlin and
that be more talk about a business group
and maybe that's something that we need
to consider here and ensuring that there
is that that um representation that's
going up to Santa Fe and specifically as
it relates to the southern the southern
communities or the southern counties
my other concern marius is that we I
think most of us have seen media
attention that the Commission has
received they are on Tuesday coin
promote a resolution to open up the
county how does that affect us because
we are within the county so how do we
work through that mr. Covey Oh bear yeah
let me jump in real quick so thank you
for those comments first off the
economic recovery council is 15 people
that the governor has put statewide and
I think the one that's from southern New
Mexico and they're to my knowledge only
one in a Sally Stallman from Stallman
farms now there's another one that she's
going to do and what that council is
meant to do is to is to reach out to
various businesses to ask you know as
I'm earlier when I mentioned about the
face masks and gloves
you know maybe taking of the temperature
I think what the governor is going to
ask these these 15 people issue me is to
find out from their various businesses
whether or not they'd be willing to do
that I think that's one thing that she
says she said and the second thing is
she's gonna have a Council of Mayors
around the state and they're going to
suggest which businesses to try to open
up first and so I think that that's
where that's coming from the second
thing as far as the county resolution
really it's just really that it's just
though it's something that
if the county was to pass that it has no
it has no teeth I'm sorry it's just
meant to tell the governor hey we want
to open up which I was asked to sign up
I think that New Mexico Business
Coalition had something similar a few
days ago and you know I knew the
governor was coming forward with this
proposal to slowly open up businesses I
mean it's not prudent to open up all
businesses at one time and so to do is
systematically like she's doing it is
the way to do it so and I explained that
to this group of Mayors another group of
me I'm the there's there are subsections
within these mayor's groups and there's
some and understandably so in especially
in the small communities they're
literally dying that's they don't have
the Walmarts they don't have the big-box
stores like we have here so I hope that
answers your questions on the county's
resolution which is really more symbolic
of anything and then what the economic
recovery council is meant to do and let
me just tell you something and I want to
congratulate our colleagues here because
when when we passed that 7,500 for
Movida to reach out to these economic
development experts they're good they're
already starting to do what they would
with a lot of these cities are trying to
form and that is a group is how do we
get bounce back and what businesses are
going to bounce back and so you know
when I don't know if you all are
familiar who mark Lautman as mark
Lautman was one of the one of the key
players to start senator ASA back in the
90s early 90s late 80s and so he's a
that these are some really smart
economic development people who know of
course that's that's our report so we're
gonna get that information so I just
thought I'd throw that out there I
appreciate that mayor um I do I don't
believe that the county even as a
resolution speaks for me or the council
and so I would strongly urge us them to
if it is passed that there is some sort
of counter resolution suggesting
specifically to the governor that we
believe wholeheartedly in terms of what
she's trying to do
I am a firm believer and listening to
science and our medical committee who is
struggling right now we have very
blessed and grateful that our our our
rates are the are what they are because
we have tried very hard to follow our
social distancing and and and then
lastly mayor I I am concerned I
appreciate that the governor is taking
this stance and forming these groups but
I've been a part of state government for
many many years and I tell you what the
people that get called in to speak on
behalf of us in in a different community
County the south it's very different and
I'm glad and thrilled that the lady from
the summit arms is getting to have her
day and representing agriculture but it
isn't all everybody and I especially am
concerned about about ensuring that
small businesses is at mom-and-pops you
know our our Latino community is
represented um specifically there at the
table because it is very different all
of us have small mom-and-pop shops in
our communities are struggling
especially our restaurant industry and I
just want to make sure that we are
capturing everybody's thoughts and
concerns at one time and and again I I
don't feel that one represented of 15
people is enough so thank you Mary hmm
Thank You counselor a basis to be a
counselor than Komal Thank You mayor I
want to paint your time Congress for her
comments a lot of my questions were very
similar
especially given our community
representation at the state level I had
a question regarding if this group
decides that it's not a requirement that
they don't want to have businesses to
have the PPD and a face mask is that
something that we can look at the city I
think you know we're still edging up
towards our our surge in our peak and
though it can't protect you from
everything it there has been evidence to
show that people wearing the famous mash
in public it is very helpful and so I'm
not sure if that's something that we can
look at what type of requirements we
might have as a city to help protect
especially given the fact that we do
they're still seeing a lot of cases as
well and now Pat oh and we know that we
have a lot of connection with their
community as well the question counselor
beta Stevie I believe and I'll let the
Jennifer Vega Brown or Rob coming I'll
jump in but I believe that that if they
don't require from a state level I think
we can pass a ordinance that does
require it you know I think our measures
can be stricter more strict interstate
does not mean good morning yes you're
correct we can be more strict than the
state great thanks thanks thank you as
we see El Paso and what type of
requirements they have but they're still
seeing increased cases since we do have
that interconnection we might be at a
different place than in other
communities so I would say moving for it
that's something we should heavily
consider and consider before we get into
our surge in peak times just because we
know that it could be very beneficial
for our community
thank you for that and before you get to
councilman como let me just read to you
the names on the economic development
council recovery council Brian Moore
owns a ranch market in Clayton New
Mexico Cristina Campos
she's administrator Guadalupe Regional
Hospital in Santa Rosa
Jason herring then CEO of HP
construction Brian O'Leary senior vice
president tax Council NBCUniversal
albuquerque peter Trevisani president
CEO of New Mexico United Santa Fe
Sally Stallman Solis CEO of Stallman
farms las cruces Liddy Martinez
Enterprise Bank & Trust out of
Hispaniola Jason Sandell executive vice
president of Aztec well family of
companies in at stake New Mexico Allen
felt historic Plaza Las Vegas mark fidel
co-founder of risk sense Albuquerque
Steve servic president XTO Energy in
Carlsbad Vince Alvarado
president New Mexico Federation of Labor
afl-cio Phoebe Serena owner of
high-water mark in Cochiti Pueblo Carrie
Phyllis founder of the salt yard ethics
night club Albuquerque geremy Turner
director of New Mexico project
development pattern energy okay so next
is councillor Bencomo Thank You mr.
mayor I wholeheartedly agree with Mayor
Pro Tem come on there were presentation
on this I think if we were to agree to
send a sort of parallel letter or
communication to the governor supporting
her supporting her orders sort of moving
away from what the county of Dona Ana
could potentially do on Tuesday perhaps
we can add on there that you know we
would like to see more representation
from southern New Mexico Las Cruces
I would actually also recommend though
that there needs to be more
representation on there beyond industry
in business
and perhaps nonprofits and people who
have direct contact with workers in a
different way than an employer it right
it's about more than just the business
it's also about protecting the health of
workers and ensuring that there is there
is just and fair relief that doesn't put
people in danger and of course if people
are suffering because they ours I think
they're not gonna say no to going back
to work but we have to ensure that their
safety comes first for sure you know and
if hospitals are struggling with PPE
what why are we you know assuming that
business is one right if hospitals are
are missing some of these important
equipment then why do we think we have
enough for a bunch of other businesses
so I think we need to just be careful I
get the urgency I absolutely do in May I
know you said you know that some rural
communities are struggling I just want
to point out though that economies are
not dying the economies are struggling
certainly and suffering but people are
dying literally people are dying from
covin 19:00 and we have to take that as
priority before anything else you know
this morning there was a New York Times
article actually really lifting up the
work that New Mexico has done and
avoiding and avoiding higher suffering
than a lot of other states especially
our neighboring states given given our
economic situation regardless being one
of the first states in the country but
they're really praising that we yielded
impressive results against this virus
and I think it's because the governor
acted decisively and early and we can't
deny that we can't deny those facts and
I think we have to stay the course and
it's funny because she also tweeted out
or whoever tweeted out for her is doing
a great job
that the economy isn't suffering because
stay at home orders the economy is
suffering because of the virus and in
order for us to reopen in the economy we
have to beat the virus that is the only
way and if we get ahead of ourselves I
think we're going to be putting a lot of
lives in danger and I think we're going
to be putting a lot of our nurses and
our health care workers in danger and
putting pressure on our hospitals when
when they won't be able to handle it
anyway that that's it for me I really
would if we are going to sort of
encourage the governor to look at more
people from down here I'd like for us to
discuss not just business folks but
perhaps nonprofit folks perhaps civil
liberty civil liberties folks yeah Thank
You mr. mayor and I fully support us
exciting this of course okay well thank
you coughs there's just a couple things
thoughts on your comments yes okay it
looks like we're gonna move forward with
some type of resolution supporting the
governor and and how she's
systematically opening up business
just keep in mind I think this economic
recovery council was meant to focus more
on business we can do it on nonprofit
but that doesn't mean that you know you
yourself if you'd like or if others want
to join you I'll have your own
subcommittee and do something here for
the city of Las Cruces how to kind of
put that together so they can kind of
get an idea what you think are best
practices regarding their health yeah I
think it's my understanding that fantasy
doing something like that so we wanted
to look something up truth is I think
it'd be worthwhile now as far as the
mask when the governor was talking she
didn't specifically say n95 mess which
is what's typically used for the health
care workers because those are hard to
find I think she was talking about just
even the real simple mask like when you
would visit someone at the hospital that
requires you to be I don't know if you
were visiting one where they say you
have to wear these plastics a gown and
you have to wear these masks and real
simple ones and I think those are still
available and I think that's what she
was talking about so I just thought I'd
share that we okay we have Mayor Pro Tem
you have a another question or comment
mayor I do but I see that I'm
comfortable onus once to speak she
hasn't done so and I if that's okay I'd
like to yield to her and
I can come back if you're okay with that
yeah sure you've got 15 minutes I'm just
kidding counselor Flores go ahead I'm so
glad you keep your sense of humor and
I'm so glad that I feed it I'm happy to
see all of you and I concur
wholeheartedly a hundred percent with
everything my colleagues have stated so
far I and I really appreciate a kill
serving como pointing out that it's the
virus that is causing everything to
close down not people staying home
because they want to stay home and and
yes it's very difficult and I think that
I think everybody is now saying this is
going to be worse than the the crash of
1929 so we are in horrible in a horrible
situation and I know that my retirement
accounts have gone down by about 20
percent so and then you know something I
worked very hard for for once I was 17
years old so that's about 80 years ago
so so it's very hard especially for
someone in my age group to see that
going that has gone down and and
everybody you know it has a domino
effect everybody's affected so all that
being said I think what we know I don't
I don't think I know that
or my belief is that we have to keep
people in mind
above all we have to keep the health and
safety of everyone at the top of the
list and everything else is secondary I
think that I know that based on what we
were presented by the Department of
Health last Friday that the CDC is going
to come down here and look at what we're
doing because we've been so successful
in keeping
our numbers down and when we look at the
graph we can see that that were we're
pretty damn pretty even-keeled in so far
as how things are going but my big fear
in addition to all the concerns and
fears expressed by Councillor Bencomo
American Gandara and and councillor
Vedas to be is Texas has lifted a lot of
they're a lot of their restrictions and
and a lot of people from our you know
southern part of Dona Ana County go to
El Paso or there or they're shopping
it's closer people from Anthony are on a
drive here to go to Walmart they'll just
drive to all pass out so hot I mean you
cross the street and you're in the state
of Texas there so so my concerns are
really about the health and Jake get
people I think we're all getting letters
from people who are very very impatient
I know we're getting calls at I know Miz
got another was feeling a lot of calls
from very angry people people are are
leaving it quite frankly and but we
can't but we as a council and really the
you know we're here to put those
interests of people first and foremost
so I think that I think what we have to
do and I totally agree with Jana with
councilman Como about having other
groups participate because even though
even though we're looking at the economy
and and the governor without the respect
that they're looking at the AG portion
or segment first well it's still people
who are going to be working so we have
to take those factors into account and
we're going to be working who's going to
be out there working people of course
who have families to feed and and if
they there
think that as if there's a lot of people
are disregarding as we all know in many
states and perhaps here in our state who
really don't believe it's necessary to
take all this the all the precautions
we've been taking so I feel very
strongly mr. mayor since you're going to
be part of that mayor's Council that you
mentioned something about mayor's I
don't I don't know if I will be I mean I
have to be chosen well you better make
sure you get chosen okay I have a
feeling I might because we're we're down
here yeah well we're southern New Mexico
well texture I'll take the governor
right I'll take Sir John said I hope
you're a bond for you I'll tell her that
counselor on for this is demanding that
I be on the council well I think all of
us mr. mayor
I mean we're just like a largest city
I'm not a feeling I will be but I just
okay okay well and then maybe you can
include our mayor pro-tem to be there I
don't know I don't know what you know
but it's just that we don't have enough
and then with you know with the county
coming forward at least one of the
commissioners coming forward with this
proposed resolution it really throws a
big wrench into the beautiful work that
we've been doing working so hard to keep
people safe and healthy so I just wanted
to express my concerns in that regard
and my fears and and I hope that that
economic council would economic whatever
council does take into account that
people have to be taken into account and
we do need civil liberties and
organizations we do need the 501c3
I mean the afl-cio is in there it's not
really an agricultural economy
agriculture organization and we make
such a travesty the nail cannot have
farm workers be part of their union and
a pro Union you know my dad was a
teamster but but in this situation I
mean if you're gonna have the belt rail
in there you know how do you feel you in
there too you know half the
once the trees have people heard they're
the ones are going to be affected you
know not not the owners of those
corporations that's the people and those
are the that's what we're concerned
about Thank You mr. mayor
did I use up my 15 minutes are you still
got like 6 minutes left
oh man all right so anyway I'm just
kidding I'm kidding
thank you mr. Ewing oh he went over so
I'll catch it on the next time here for
gem thank you for the laughs but no
honestly I appreciate concert lettuces
back and comments and concerns
americ-aa I forgot to say how grateful I
am to Movida you know there have an
electronic version of a survey for
specifically consumers sort of being
that sort of it's being spread through a
Facebook I don't know what other avenues
and you don't know if counsel it's
gotten a copy of that of that survey I'm
very appreciative because it gives them
not only as you know what to help with
business but also from a consumer
perspective what are you willing to do
the only concern that I had with the
survey is that it has a series of
questions as a consumer what you feel
like would need to be the things that in
place in order for you to come into
business if you will and you're only
allowed to pick one option and honestly
I was like oh I want to do this for this
and another option you know as but
you're not allowed to do that within the
confines of the survey so I'm a bit
concerned that it will and only I'll
give a certain understanding about it
and and so I had planned to reach out to
Damon I'm today or over the weekend to
sort of give my concerns about
being able to select more than one but
from my perspective I hate to be so
being critical or constructive criticism
during this time but I think he would
benefit from it as as a group so Thank
You mayor
Thank You mayor pro-tem one thing to
keep in mind I seem that he's done
before like that for one one item only
because what they do is they take the
highest one and then of course there
you're gonna have you know item a and
that has so many votes an item beef and
so they're still gonna do what you're
asking but I think it's a little bit
easier for them to compute quickly
quicker so just thought I'd share that
with a counselor her sword that was
quick
I just wanted to add my two cents worth
here and and agree with everything
everybody saw are you wearing that shirt
for the draft tonight or what let's go
yes absolutely absolutely to what we had
to distract us from this stain at home
Minnesota yes it is Minnesota yes no no
no no not at all just testing him
yesterday hahaha banished and I wanted
to make sure I tell everybody that it's
good to see you all even though it's a
little square now it's good to see you
all again we I missed this face-to-face
that we have yeah I just wanted to add
that you know as some that said already
man pretend and so forth that we want to
follow the medical experts on this
Department of Health on what their
recommendations are for this and I trust
the governor he's doing that and so I
trust the governor when it she comes out
with her orders so yeah I'm all in favor
of following what is being done in the
state I can see where smooth on
small-town that isn't connected to much
of the rest of the state I could have a
little something different but that's up
to them as far as I
Thank You mayor okay thank you okay so
getting back to the original resolution
which was to extend the term looks like
everybody's had their say so if there's
nothing further
Christine this is on the motion to
approve resolution 20-1 for seven counts
or a beta Stevie yeah come service good
yes contraband como yeah councilors work
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councillor Vasquez okay Christine are
you gonna be doing this presentation yes
let me see if I can share my screen with
you guys never would see that yes okay
great awesome mayor council Christine
Rivera acting city clerk for the record
um today I have a resolution to approve
a public comment
electronic public comment period during
the regular City Council meeting so just
a little background on March 23rd 2020
the New Mexico bowl New Mexico
Department of Health issued a Public
Health order stating that gathering of
more than five individuals should be
limited at that point that is when we
started to have the zoom virtual meeting
after that Attorney General issued
guidance on complying with the Open
Meetings Act and stated that members of
the public should be afforded remote
access via livestream or other similar
technology if possible or a call-in
number for listening to the meeting
Robert's Rules of Order states that the
chair must recognize any member or
participant who seek to speak and he
gives them the floor which is similar to
what we do now during the regular City
Council meetings so I looked at a couple
of the other municipalities in our state
to see what they were doing as far as
their virtual meeting
Sunland Park is allowing participants
into their zoom meetings by calling or
emailing the city clerk for the link and
they're allowing up to 300 participants
into their meetings Fort Sumner is
having virtual meetings that they are
taking comments via cell phone to the
city clerk during the meeting well State
Farm's is streaming their meetings on
Facebook live so they're taking comments
during the meeting also and then
Alamogordo they have not had their first
virtual meeting yet there
we'll be the first week in May but they
will be taking public comments emailed
to the city clerk which will then be
read during the public comment period of
their meetings I also looked at what
some of the cities around the nation are
doing as far as virtual meeting and New
York City and Clark County their schools
were using zoom but they had to end up
banning it because people were hijacking
their online classrooms with racist and
derogatory comment California one of
their council meetings he's actually
zoom bombed when a member of the public
screen shared a pornographic image the
Krait moon a Buddhist school district
and Florida Keys School District are
only taking comments via email which are
then shared during their council meeting
Gary Indiana their law does not require
public comments so they don't even have
those during regular City Council
meetings and then in Woodinville
Washington their comments are submitted
by email and then read during the public
comment portion of their reading so our
recommendation is that if somebody has a
can they meet their phone or looks like
we're getting some interference err so
the mayor and city clerk would receive
public comment via email um I would
suggest that all public comment be
submitted by Monday morning that gives
me a chance to print out anything that
is submitted directly to me so that I
can give it to the mayor once you
receive these comments just like in any
other regular City Council meeting he
can limit the amount of comments that
are brought forward all these comments
should be read during the public
participation portion of the City
Council meeting and and they will be
included in the minutes as well as the
printed out versions of the emails will
be
filed away in our in my administrative
file and we will be following the city
manager policy on social media which
instructs that no comment related to
random or unintelligible comments would
be allowed profane obscene violet
pornographic language content that
promotes or fosters discrimination on
the basis of race color national origin
religion ancestry fact age that to go on
mindo mental handicap serious medical
conditions also affiliation sexual
orientation and gender identity
no defamatory or personal attack no
threat to any person or organization no
comment in support of or opposition to
any political campaigns no solicitation
of commerce we no conduct and violation
of any federal state or local law no
encouragement of illegal activity no
information that compromises the safety
and security of the public and no
content that violates legal ownership of
interests so with that these are your
counsel options we will need to amend
the title of the resolution to take out
the word policy
um and I will stand for any questions
Thank You Christine let me just jump in
real quick before we go to Council so
you know I thought about this and I know
the the one problem with if we were to
allow the public access to zoom and I
think you saw many of the concerns that
someone could could have access and they
could do something unusual the second
thing I was thinking is I would have no
problem if well first off you you all
probably still get emails regarding a
particular item on the agenda because I
I think you do I know
I do from time to time so if you want to
read those as comments when we're
discussing a particular item on the
agenda but what I wanted to share with
you or tell you that I'm willing to do
which is not that difficult to do I'm
used to faulty tasking running meetings
is they can email me during a particular
item is there if there's a question that
comes up as long as they identify it
with the resolution number
I'll take maybe up to five comments and
and I'll be able to read it
literally on the spot and you know
unless it's a huge a novel just
something that they may have some
questions and I can respond to it that
way I would I think that's a little bit
quicker and a little bit closer to the
public so that they can share with me or
us their concerns which is not it's not
hard for me to do really I mean I can I
can read what questions they have and I
can relay that to the council and and
let that let it be answered that way in
addition to what we're doing here is
what I'm trying to say is I can I don't
mind doing that and we're adding to it
okay so with that let's see here who has
question questions councillor FLOTUS you
still you did you put your hand down or
you have your hand up then we have
counsel Vasquez Oregon como ganda Thank
You mr. mayor and thank you miss Rivera
for working on this so so I think what
the mayor just stated right now is that
it would it would be it would have to be
modified you your presentation would
have to be modified your proposal so I
don't know I think that'd be kind of
tough and I know that that's up to him
but yeah and and councilor it doesn't
have to be think formal I can still do
it well you know with this resolution in
play yeah I can just I can do that we
can just we can if you want to move
forward with what was presented which is
fine and and but I want to relay to the
public I'll take you know five five
questions that they may have that they
have to have the resolution
if they don't have the resolution number
I don't have time to keep looking
through it because we got to get a lot
of questions they have to have that
resolution number if they don't have it
I just I just have to move on Oh Thank
You mr. mayor and so my question for
Miss Nevada is how does this vary
because I know that before we go to our
media agenda items the mayor does allow
people to make their public comments and
and but we generally do not have
questions for them and and so that's
going to change isn't it because or do I
have a poor recollection already of what
our live meetings were like can you
clarify that for me miss mr. betta how
that would change if it would um Merrick
come for photos I don't believe it would
really change the only difference is
that the person will not be publicly in
front of you guys they'll be making
their same comments like they would at a
regular council meeting you just won't
be able to ask the follow-up questions
so that's really the only difference and
if I don't know if Jennifer wants to
jump in at all mm-hmm and how would this
very then from Robert's Rules of Order
which we generally follow and they're
only you know that they're only
suggestions really it isn't something
that's something that we've incorporated
as a legal way of proceeding that change
it we actually do have where we're going
to rely on Las Meninas or cold article 2
section 2 - 27e 1 which requires that
the mayor recognize each speaker and
we're also going to rely on article 2
section 227 F which requires that the
the mayor may cut somebody short or
allow
adequate time so those are the things
that are our rules do have inflation
right now when something isn't
specifically addressed we do rely on
Robert's Rules of Order but and in
general we ought you do have those rules
in place that allow the mayor to do
these things so actually it's an
ordinance if it's in the music correct
oh well that's good to know I didn't
know that I thought that we just
followed Robert's Rules of Order as as a
guide so okay thank you very much mr.
mayor mr. mayor and and the attorney may
program Jennifer I don't suppose you can
turn your can and I don't like really
looking at that logo while you're
talking so Larry that's okay oh and by
the way Christine a little worried about
your your Curtin next to your lamp it
might catch on fire I do have my NMSU
poster in the back Thank You mayor mayor
this is a time for unity okay just
kidding go Aggies always all the time
yeah no I I think I think this is
certainly a little bit of a challenge
for us right because no matter I think
no matter the circumstance we're gonna
have to have things just be different
operate differently right and and I'm
willing to just the conversation or the
questions we might be able to ask of a
commenter I really don't see that
happening there any particular way that
we can devise in a way that's timely and
efficient but I do want to be able to
have the ability to receive comments
during the meeting I think that's
important because people may have
reactions or ideas as specific
councillors comment on a particular
ordinance proposal and so I think it's
important for us to have those come in
in real time
and so I don't know if there is an
opportunity like we would during a
regular council meeting to have all the
councillors to be able to see the
comments that are coming in and so maybe
that's like there a new email address
like council comments at las cruces dot
org mayor which you would then recognize
right you would you would select the
emails or the comments that that you
would like to read but if possible I
would appreciate like counseling the the
same you know seeing those emails come
in in real time as well and then you
could address those per the ordinance is
that something that we might be able to
do miss Vega Brown
um mayor and council the problem with
that is that it is the mayors and well
the chairs prerogative to address they
have to acknowledge every speaker so the
chair has to acknowledge each speaker so
if you're getting if you're receiving
everyone's email the chair hasn't
acknowledged that speaker and so that's
why it that's why it is necessary for
those emails should be filtered through
the clerk and then the mayor because the
mayor has to recognize okay okay I
understand
that's a I'm sorry to interrupt you as a
matter of public record they are a
public record sure you just wouldn't be
okay sure that makes sense
so maybe maybe getting then a list of
all the comments that were submitted or
something post meeting if that's a
possibility but in real time the mayor
would would select or they what those
would be filtered directly through the
mayor through the mayor's inbox I think
I like that proposal and hopefully it
works too mayor I you know for you don't
get overwhelmed with too many comments
during the meeting but it's certainly
worth a try and I appreciate you
bringing that up and so I think I think
that's probably the way to go
the at least for me I don't know what
the limitations or technology is like in
so far as you know Facebook and zoom
comments in real-time unfortunately I
have just seen how social media tends to
bring out the worst in people
the majority of the time it's kind of
worse
civil discourse goes to die and I would
hate to see a negative you know a flood
of negative comments or obscene comments
or obscene photos come in without any
way for us to filter them and then to
have the public watching that right that
stream of comments or that stream of
unfiltered you know potentially
offensive images and that kind of thing
hey I just unfortunately see the
potential for that happening right I
think people people would do that
especially if they have anonymous
accounts or or that kind of thing and so
so I think this might be the best way to
do it I do just want to also ask a
question about the speaker's identifying
themselves you know I know that when
folks come to City Council and identify
their names in the districts it's
something that's important to us right
for that for us to know sometimes what
district they come from not not not if
they don't want to but how how do we how
do we make sure these are real folks
right because anyone can create a fake
email address the fake name send some
ludicrous comment out or you know put
something out there that's not that they
don't want to be held accountable for as
a person and so I'm us a little bit
worried about that right that people
would would create fake email accounts
because they don't want their comments
traced back to them and a you know I
don't know if we want to accept
anonymous comments but I know in a
regular City Council meeting we wouldn't
we wouldn't do that right all right
exactly so I mean it's just a matter of
if they send it to me you know of course
I'll I'll kind of read it and see if it
sounds unbelievable but can't play by
ear I wouldn't read too much into it I'm
not too concerned with it okay is there
a criteria then that we will ask folks
to submit as part of the comment process
you mentioned mayor you wanted to have
at least the resolution or I think it'd
be good just for them to mention what
they're commenting on versus like the
ordinance number the resolution number
because that might be telling people oh
yeah sure no they have to ask me the
question on the email okay yeah okay all
right well
I think I think you know unless we have
better suggestions or solutions
I think that's support your proposal
mayor Thank You mayor come services but
we could also do is put some wording on
the agenda that kind of guides people on
what they need to submit Thank You
Christine that'd be great and also if we
announce through a press release that we
will be accepting comments in this way
would be great to get that information
out that way and via social media as
necessary thank you okay thank you for
saying councilor sword Thank You Man
and thank you Christine that's awesome
research you've done I was quite a list
you had it was very interesting I have
one request could you put up the slide
that has this what's in this resolution
again so I can see that one more time or
just leave it on there for the rest of
our discussion yeah the one before this
so quiet yes
thank you so this is basically what it's
all going to be about so that's what I
wanted to go through that we've been
talking so much I kind of forgotten the
details thank you so much Christine and
thank you mr. mayor Thank You councillor
council Bencomo thank you Miss Marron
Thank You Kristina I agree is great
research you did um all right I think we
have actually a really incredible
opportunity with even though that this
is significantly harder and definitely a
challenge for staff and for all of us um
that you know Cova 19 has created and
these virtual meetings um but I also
think we have an opportunity to make
government more accessible now for a lot
more people and so I want to make sure
that we consider that I think doesn't
think that we could do something really
incredible and um and you know I
understand the fears of we all know what
Facebook is like sometimes those
comments and and so I get that I also
have been part of through my work life
I've been part of some Facebook live
events where you know we have we were
taking questions from people directly
from Facebook and they were generally
mostly very positive and people were
very inquisitive um so I think it's I
think it's a fair assumption to make
that it could get nasty
I also think we don't know we don't know
what it could be like um
and especially if um I don't know it
could turn pretty badly I agree with you
all I just also think that it could be a
really big opportunity to make
government more accessible for people um
you know I think gosh asking them to
mail to email things um I don't know it
can get kind of tough sometimes right
and not every and like email culture is
very observer it's a very middle-class
thing and so I'm just nervous that we're
excluding we're continuing to exclude a
certain population in our community by
doing just that so um I
no that doesn't I know I have no
solutions and I hate to say that but I
think that figuring out a way to field
the actual questions and the actual
positive comments on on and I'm only
positive right because critique we can
we can you could critique I think that's
important from the members of the public
but a way to feel legitimate comments
from Facebook or YouTube I think I think
is really important and I think that we
could really change the way we provide
these meanings to our constituencies so
I really do want us to try that I don't
know I don't know Christine or Jennifer
if we end up saying like yes we're gonna
try this and then ends up blowing up
interfaces if we can then take it back
but I I just feel strongly about that
Thank You councillor Mayor Pro Tem
Thank You mayor Thank You Christine and
miss Jennifer Baker Brown and her legal
staff I know a lot of work went into
this so I very much appreciate
everything that that you've done thus
far this has been really important to me
I've been having conversations with miss
Vega Brown about the opportunities to
seek commentary from our constituency
via livestream because we do have that
currently as our council meetings are
live streamed and on Facebook and I had
noticed and a couple of times and I had
been out but look participating by phone
and and then had the Facebook livestream
that there are Tyson people comment but
no one was sort of answering any of
those things and any of the questions if
questions have been brought up so I
agree that it's important for
us to receive commentary and questions
during the meeting I think that's really
important I hardly agree with concert
angle most comments about an opportunity
for more public participation I I think
that really needs to happen and so I'm
incredibly fascinated with Southern Park
policy and the ability to have up to 300
people on June I think that's incredibly
progressive and I I'd like to know any
any more detail mystery that uh as it
relates to that and how we have all here
heard the crazy things that shouldn't
has brought but I now know that they've
changed a lot of or maybe beefed up
security and so I am I'm interested I
really feel that as I like that idea and
that I want that us to really look at
the zoom possibility having people
participate as if they are at a meeting
I think that this is incredibly
important so I don't know Christine do
you have any more detail about the
Sunland Park model before you jump in
Christine David did you have a comment
you'd like to make yes plasticine my
Estes interim city manager and this will
hopefully this helps address both mayor
pro-tem gondolas and contraband Como's
questions and concerns yes I agree I
think the entire nation entire world is
finding out that we have additional
opportunities for participation we have
additional ways and potential to carry
on our meetings with respect
specifically to Southern Park Zoo I
don't know that we have enough
information on that to to answer that
but I do know from our standpoint and
allowing
interactive participation during the
meeting I think the mayor has as a good
suggestion on allowing emails to take
place even during the public
participation item for those particular
topics that come up specific resolution
so that helps with that with respect to
chat in facebook the way they do theirs
or other social media Avenue that allows
the chest to take place several concerns
and couple of them have been brought up
one of which was remarks type of remarks
discriminatory offensive harassing type
remarks we definitely want to make sure
those don't come through and those chat
rooms the comments come in so fast and
so quick that it would be very difficult
you have to have additional resources in
place to try to spot those before they
get there to have them deleted before
somebody else can see them so we really
put ourselves at a great risk for those
opportunities what I would suggest I
don't have a problem continuing to look
at other ways that we can improve and
have additional accommodations for
public input but rather than just simply
open it up I'd like to have staff see
what potentials we have what resources
we're going to need in place and run a
few tests trials that way we make sure
that we have it so that it works best
for the entire community before we open
it up this resolution here allows us at
least a first phase of our increasing
participation and it allows us to that
people actively send information any
questions in or comments in that can be
addressed during the meeting as part of
these discussions and then we can
continue to work to our next phases in
the future again depending on what
resources we need and what parameters we
can put in place to help us do that
effectively and not put us at risk thank
you
and kind of along those lines David I
think and I think a nice balance what
mayor pro-tem found that I was talking
about and what you've been talking about
I think is as a suggestion that let's
just say we have obviously if we have
presenters or if members of the
community are on the agenda of course
they would be allowed access into zoom
but I wonder and and David I know you're
gonna check this in check this out is
let's say we have we start off small ten
or fifteen participants and then they
have to get the credentials they have to
email the city first we have to make
sure that they're legitimate people you
know that they're they have the right
name they've got the right app email
address and then one since they've been
verified perhaps then they could be
allowed the credentials that they could
then speak it accounts with I don't know
that's something I'm sure David and his
staff are going to look at so I just
thought I'd just share that with with
you all mayor I I appreciate it and
appreciate mr. mayor Steve's comments I
think it's a nice balance I want to as
the mayor pro-tem say that I I've been a
part of facilitating some meetings and
and and so getting questions and
whatever is sort of balance when you get
on that chat so I I just want to remind
that in the event that I am facilitating
that we what we have to be proactive and
inform the public that I'd be the one
that they'd have to email to as well and
then I wonder about any questions that
come in Spanish how how that how that
would work because you know I know that
we've been very clear with staff that we
need our council may be bilingual and
this like the idea of simultaneous
translation and is something that we've
been talking about for some time and so
I I just want to bring that up I'm fine
but I'm also interested in this the
that idea of southern park it's it's a
really interesting way that they have
chosen to move through their meetings
and so I'm happy to allow for the first
step here is a good one I think that's
an important first step and mayor to
include I think it's important too for
that to be included in the resolution if
you're you're allowing the questions to
be sent to you during the meeting I
think that's really important that we
have I have had several people on email
me saying okay how are you working
through this and we've heard that that's
going to happen so there is interest for
sure and being able to comment during
during the meeting so I like for that to
be included as well thanks Mir sure and
and also Mayor Pro Tem I think my
assistant staff we're going to look into
some of the park if there and again we
don't know if soon can be like there's
300 participants if that's all
participants or if if there's a
different mode where they can be view
only and not participate and not be able
to put any type of documents on the on
the screen so there's a lot of different
things I think staffs gonna and probably
get bring to us by our next meeting okay
we have a councillor Mascis I think is
next and then for the beta Stevie and
then Cole Thank You mayor yeah no I
think councillor Bencomo brings up some
really really good points and so I do I
support everything she said and I think
she's right we we have an opportunity to
make local government more accessible
and I think we should take it even
beyond this limited time that we will
have to be on zoom' meetings so I hardly
agree with her
and if it takes us a week or two to get
there in order to get it right I support
that support staff doing what they need
to do to make sure that they they're
confident in the type of tool that we're
able to use
you know I think councilman gum also
brought up a good point about the
accessibility piece and email culture
middle class
I think zoom more so than probably an
email system would be even more limiting
or out of the reach of kind of regular
folks or average folks so social media
probably is the most widely I guess use
tool right for communication
particularly Facebook and so I know with
Facebook live you can I think moderate
comments when people are posting things
before they actually go live I believe
there there can be a moderator function
of someone that has to approve that
comment from actually being posted
publicly so it seems like that might be
kind of the most widely available widely
used platform just speaking from my own
personal experience in terms of
accessibility so so perhaps that might
be an option that might be easier than
zoom more accessible and then zoom or
email but but again also share the
concerns with that with just you know
being able to make sure that we that
we're getting you know respectful and
comments that that other members of the
public don't have to to endure you know
any kind of profanity or that kind of
thing because that that could break down
quick so yeah I just wanted it to time
back in with that say support this this
recommendation or mayor with your
proposal as it is but do also strongly
believe that we should move in the
direction of figuring out a way to use
either social media or something that's
that we're confident is very accessible
to the majority of our constituents here
thank you Mary okay thanks it looks like
David myiasis has a comment David yes
sir mayor David myiasis thank you or
that or counselor Bosque I said again it
goes back to what kind of councillors
are brought up we we did look into the
moderator the resources or what it takes
per person to be have the ability to
take out comments before they're sent to
the chat and everybody else can see them
one of difficulties with that as
attorney Vega Brown pointed out
according to
robert's rules the chair is the one who
decides what comments move forward or
don't move forward and so we do run a
risk if we have somebody differently
who's deleting comments are taking them
out before the main are seen them that
we are making rules outside of that
requirement so we're trying to figure
out how we could meet that requirement
but still have the ability to take those
comments out before everybody sees them
so there there are quite a few semantics
and difficulties that take place we are
trying to look into them we are trying
to figure out again how we could move to
a different phase but we do have to work
through those thank you thank you David
so before I get to councillor swords let
me ask a drian something so Adrienne so
during our meetings is there a way and I
think you see this on telephones where
they they flash a number is there a way
you can flash my email address and say
for public comment you know you want
email Mary I've lost cruces org
something like that is that I don't even
know if you can talk I know you're the
host but week yeah we could do that we
could do that with a just like a lower
third graphic like right now on the TV
and YouTube you we have the date on the
top left corner so we could put we could
put somewhere on there an email address
on the bottom or top or they can call
train or something I'm sorry sounds good
thanks agent let's see how's our sword
natural gate mr. mayor I'm fine okay
counselor beta Stewie Thank You mayor
I'm glad to these recommendations I
think transparency and public
participation is very important and I
echo a lot of the comments that my
colleagues have done one thing I am
excited to learn more about the zoom if
there is some sort of ability to sort of
work with it so you can disable that
screen sharing function for me even
public
and have more they raise their hands
during allow that to happen during
public comment and then if we could turn
that shirt up off like we're doing
presentations that there's a way to kind
of work with the system that way I think
it could be very useful to have people
kind of be able to view in a different
fashion I do feel that there are some
concerns when it comes to sharing things
on on Facebook there that area can be
very good to include other people but it
does turn into a very nasty place
sometimes when there is no kind of
accountability for who's posting and so
that's something that I think we need to
consider to just make sure these are a
constituent these are people that are
there to engage and and not just there
to cause a disruption for just for the
sake of chaos again and so if there's
some ways that we can work with that but
it can be it's something that we're
going to have to monitor very closely on
that but I I really appreciate Christine
for you putting this together and for
attorney Thank You counselor before you
get the counselor I beat the I mean a
counselor Bencomo
so Adrienne got another question so on
the chat feature so I'm clicking on it
right now and it looks like the only
ones I can chat to is you and Dominic
and is there I wonder and that's
probably or what you all are going to
look into in the future here is whether
or not so let's just say you you all
come up with the fact that we can do
zoom they don't know they can't share a
document and instead of talking they
would just chat me something a question
and then that way there I can decipher
if it's you know if it's something that
that is germane or something I can share
with counsel then I could just read what
they with the question that they asked
me that's one thing that I was going to
see if you knew off the top your head
goes like right like I said right now I
can looks like an only chat two of you
you and Dominic right right now we have
the feature set up where the chat is
only between the participants you guys
and the hosts
there is another just just basically
that was more for public record and if
the rules that way there's no I'm giving
Jennifer and finding better but there is
a feature within zoom I mean one of the
issue that zoom is it's what the
regulars will wave the roots regularly
set up you can't really distinguish who
kid talk versus not it's all all or
nothing
but there is a feature called webinar
where we can allow we can allow people
to sign in register and then join they
have no participation as far as being
able to be seen or heard but they can
use the chat feature or and you could
also pull them so you can send polling
questions and make it respond or they
could use the chat feature so but they
can never seem well that would be
interesting when you all come up with
your different ideas to share with
Council the next week or two they'll be
fine I think that's something I just
wanted to throw into the mix Amy did you
have another question David my Estes or
coming mayor thank you I was just
testing you guys to see if you would get
the raise hand all right all right
sounds good let's see here councillor
Ben Komal Thank You mr. mayor and thank
you for that
um no Adrienne so I've been working home
since like March 13th
so Zulu has become my life I've learned
thoughts about do I've learned that it's
actually a lot more accessible than we
think it is um you can download an app
on your smart phone you can call in if
you don't have a camera um there is also
a really incredible interpretation tool
so there is a way that you can have
simultaneous interpretation so where the
interpreter would only hear the speaker
and me and the listener could choose the
for example Spanish and I would only
hear the interpreter I'd be able to see
everything else I'd be able to see like
for example the mayor's speaking but I
would only hear the interpreter
interpreting what that speakers saying
so it's actually pretty incredible
I like the webinar idea given that we
only control what people might show us
on your video I think that's a very
important thing to recognize so I'll say
that I haven't I have a question in
terms of the like discrimination concern
and like people saying discriminatory
ugly things
I mean what's our protocol when somebody
says discriminatory ugly things in
public comment in person well it all
depends on if it's if it's pointed at me
I just let them say it this point you
guys that usually stop it or the staff I
mean I'm being serious you know I have
to be able to take any criticism or
whatever they want to throw at me well
sure I am NOT I'm not I'm accustomed to
public criticism that I think we all are
we would have gotten into this if that
wasn't a thing that came with the job
but my question is around I have been at
council meetings as a private citizen
and County Commission where people have
said awful things about immigrants where
people have said awful things about
LGBTQ folks where people have said awful
things about wage workers right so I
think that there's also I hear the
concern but that happened in person all
the time also okay and so and that's
good in fact how about if I form a
select committee of one to help
Adrian on zoom and its features would
you be willing to join that I would love
to help Adrian with that yes all right
that way there you can share what other
things that you've found and sure what's
that they may already I don't know I'm
curious to hear maybe from UM from or
yes David my assess would just raise his
hand or maybe even attorney
make a brown or interim city clerk on
this issue david myiasis you want to say
yes mayor thank you david myiasis
interim city manager you are correct
counselor Bencomo you you do have the
opportunity and our face to face and
when we have the city council chamber is
open to have somebody say something the
difference there is the mayor pointed
out he can stop them and it doesn't go
any further again back to these chat
environments and when people can comment
and send in information instantly in
millisecond you can have several
comments come through and if we don't
have the resources to be able to stop
those before they get out then we're not
able to deter that whereas in person you
can you can stop what there's many
people involved even if they say we find
out the southern part does allow
participation with 300 people you can
have 300 comments in the span of 10
seconds come through and we won't be
able to stop that with the resources we
have right now so we need to vet out the
process and how we can allow people to
speak and know that they're speaking
meeting Robert's Rules of Order but also
being courteous and professional as we
would ask anybody else is talking in
front of Council thank you thank you
David thank you I appreciate that I
think yes I must I'm very happy to work
with folks on on how do we figure this
out because there's gotta be a way right
and so I'm happy to do that and just
before I get the mere pro-temp ganda
just to let you all know how I choose
who's talking here is whoever hits the
race button first you go to the first
align and so that's how it that's how it
goes so just thought I'd share that with
you I'm not that I you know randomly
arbitrarily and capriciously that crews
going to talk first I just started sure
with you like this woof my little
participant list here counselor Oh
Jennifer you have something you'd like
to say Jennifer Vega Brown yep yeah
thank you one thing also that to keep in
mind is the more filters you have the
more people who are filtering through
the information that gets to the mayor
the more opportunities you have for
special censorship and we don't want
that we want
see we want a few people to see it as
possible so that that information can
get to the mayor and then the Americans
determine what's hurt like I said before
the it's all a public record so in my
I'm an attorney so I like things
documented and so the written the
written questions the written emails
those are the easiest to manage because
we can not only can we maintain them for
the public record but we can make sure
that nothing was changed in them and so
there are many mechanisms now with
technology to allow public comment but I
think with art with what we have limited
right now and our intention was to try
this out see how it goes
I keep adding to your rules of procedure
which have not been finalized yet
because it seems like every time they're
finalized something else comes up but
we'll continue to add to this I think
will follow
ephra if we're guidelines for when you
submit a different request you have to
provide a name and address so we can add
those into the rules but again it's just
going to be trial and error right now
and we'll have adjust as we go okay
great thank you for that Mayor Pro Tem
take shelter
thank you I appreciate mr. Brown's work
and sort of moving into this and
conserving Como's willingness to sit in
a committee of one or two with Adrian to
move through this I think this is really
exciting
um I do want to say I mean I've been
facilitating groups for they could even
have and there's all sorts of
facilitation rules you know where you
capture ground rules that people will
adhere to and I think that's really
important and I think it's really
important to let the public know that
yeah we we want public participation I
think it's
okay to criticize but I don't think
anybody wants to be in a room where they
are being told any discriminatory some
horrible commentary and so I think
there's ways that we can definitely shut
this up and and me sort of very specific
guidelines following it by everything
that we need to follow the law
Roberts rules in order to because I
think are endless all this more
participation right more participation
and I think we do have a wonderful
opportunity for that so I just want to
say that I think it's important that we
state what those ground rules are at
every meeting and that we follow them
and that includes the citizenry Thank
You mayor Thank You mayor pro-tem
okay so let me ask Jennifer mega Braun
something Jennifer as far as me asking
that people just email me for comments
do you feel that needs to be included in
the resolution and if so you know we'll
go ahead and do that amendment or do you
think it can be okay to leave out Marion
council I think that you can leave it
out right now we're just it's really
just a recommendation that you're
expecting that this is how we'll do it
we can have an internal procedure either
an administrative rule or City Council a
little procedure that's put in place to
determine what the process will be okay
great okay so if there is nothing
further and then Christine can you call
the vote please there we need to amend
it to remove more polish be out of the
title oh I'm sorry
okay yes Oh justice order yeah I'll make
that motion to remove the word policy
team on a second get counselors for the
signals so motion made by a counselor
saw
second by Councillor Florida's to remove
the word policy the resolution 20 - 1
for 8 Christine on the amendment is on
the motion to amend resolution 20 - 148
to remove the word policy out of the
title counselor beta CV yes yes yes
contraband coma Thompson schork yes come
to Florida Jordan yes comes redundant
yes mayor
yes okay so now we're gonna go to
updates 3.1 is habitat I'm sorry just
making sure you pay attention there
Christine back on the main motion yes
this is on the motion to approve
resolution 20 - one for eight as amended
I'm sorry beta Stevie yeah Tom survived
oh yes come to Ben coma yes counselor
yes
counter Flores yeah counts are down that
huh yes mayor yes okay now we're gonna
go to a three point one Habitat for
Humanity updates and I think either now
the green or David Allen will be
discussing primary this is Jan
Lauterbach what the Community
Development Department I believe I am
tasked to discuss with that for Humanity
update and I'll share my screen with you
all
all right can everybody see my screen
yes okay I'm not sure if you all had any
specific questions but I do have a
PowerPoint I can present
hold on lists
all you're doing that councillor Habitat
for Humanity has been operating here in
las cruces their affordable
homeownership program since 1987 since
that time they have assisted 126 on
households to become homeowners in Las
Cruces the majority of their labor is
through what they call caravanners
mostly snowbirds it's a complex
coordinated volunteer effort where
reservations are made the caravanners
choose to come to Las Cruces or wherever
they want to go they make reservations
and they can come to Las Cruces habitat
fill a need for housing here in Las
Cruces according to a recent survey
conducted one in eight families in New
Mexico spend over half of their income
on housing cost spending and spending
over 30% of their income on housing
expenses leaves households cost burdened
which provides for less money for food
healthcare and other expenses the way
habitat chooses their families they have
a family selection committee they look
at basically three things the need the
ability to pay and willingness to
partner with need their family selection
committee assesses current household
conditions whether it's the physical
condition of the home overcrowding
issues safety disabilities or excessive
housing cost they also look at the
households ability to pay similar to a
bank underwriter looking at income
credit history and debt to income ratios
and then the households willingness to
partner habitat does require sweat
equity hours on between two hundred and
fifty if you're a single parent
household or five hundred for a married
couple they can volunteer those sweat
equity hours in either building their
home other people's homes or in other
capacities such as volunteering at the
restore if they're unable to go out
there or and swing a hammer they can
volunteer at the restore or in other
capacities with habitat they fund their
builds a lot of funding comes from city
home and CDBG sources and they also take
advantage of our impact fee waiver
program with the home funds we use home
for direct construction cost hard and
soft costs CDBG funding is typically
used for land acquisition they also have
a lot of proceeds from their restore
that can be used to help with the
construction cost at this time the
restore has biggg has been deemed
unassisted
habitat also receives private grants and
sponsorships from local banks and
businesses for instance I know
Wanda Bowman with Ashley Furniture can
sometimes provide furniture Home Depot
has provided plants for landscapes
landscaping items like that and then
other private grants and scholarships
for their funding so what they've done
in the past few years is habitat has
worked in the Aurora subdivision they
were given pretty good deals on Lots
and in 2018-19 they completed five home
each they are working to complete five
homes here in 2020 and in the 2020 21
build season they're looking to build
six homes the build season for Habitat
in Las Cruces runs from October through
April normally that's when the
snowboards like to come down to New
Mexico and build once it starts getting
too hot they want to get out of here and
go back to their homes in the Northeast
and they also have volunteers such as
like the 9-1-1 build day where they get
emergency responders to come help them
build and other organizations here in
town to help build together making a big
difference in the affordable housing in
Las Cruces that is the end of my
presentation and I will stand for
questions thanks Jen let's see questions
here so far no questions
I guess Jan the O Telstra sort before I
get to council circ so Jan I think that
the biggest question was whether or not
funds to help habitat or humanity should
be coming from our tell shore fund or
should or if so which other funds should
they come through so that would be the
main question and then I'll get the
councillor sorry mayor
just a quick question there on Jan where
is the aurora subdivision what district
or what part of the city oh we can't
hear you we can't hear you - well Jan
one thing
microphones on Natalie the Aurora
subdivision is off Elks Drive oh yeah
thank you appreciate that Thank You
Natalie mayor pro-tem antenna sorry um
yes um thank you so much John for your
presentation I was hoping that these
updates would be about how they're
dealing with the pandemic what sort of
what sort of provisions have they made
have they had to cut people as it
relates to on the pandemic what are they
doing with the funding currently how
what steps have they taken like where
are they at today those kinds of things
do we have any of that information that
you can share today mr. mayor mayor
parte temp gun to the Natalie green for
the record we are currently under
development for the contract with
habitat we need to get an agreement in
place first before we can expend funding
because these projects are built with
federal funding they have to go through
a procurement process so they will be
working through that process to solicit
local contractors to finish the houses
they have under construction
they have three staff members that are
paid staff so they are working and
implementing work from home and are
taking steps to do that again dan
mentioned that there restore is closed
they can't open that right now so
they've had a substantial loss of
funding habitat holds all their own
mortgages so they are providing mortgage
relief to their existing clients who
they hold mortgages for and I hope that
answers most of your questions
mr. million family Natalie oh sorry
David
I wanted to add one thing that Jan
Natalie and I on state leadership from
Community Development met with Candace
Butler on the phone about a week and a
half ago before last week's resolution
Natalie made the point of that they hold
their own mortgages so of the clients
that they've assisted over the years
that's one hundred and twenty-six I
believe they're down into the 70s for
people that still have outstanding
mortgages to those with our discussions
they had 12 people that needed mortgage
assistance due to loss of employment
one of the key things that and there are
other avenues that habitat is providing
them resources to and they're looking at
a deferment the biggest impact from that
loss of mortgage payments is it impacts
the operations to Habitat as an
organization those monthly mortgage
payments while not big or large is what
habitat keeps the operation open day in
and day out along with the money they
have coming in helps with escrow on
insurance and taxes so those are key
things your assistance last week as
Natalie indicated we are working on an
agreement because not because the money
you provided last week but because of
previous money from the city requires
that federal procurement provisions both
home and CDBG that's a key element so
that's why it's taking a little bit
longer but they're fully aware that and
more than capable of implementing that
for these projects this is a first for
habitat because they've lost the
caravanners due to travel restrictions
and it's in our best interest and
there's not to have people traveling to
the community there may be follow-up by
city staff with kandace if there's
continued or extended need for other
mortgage assistance opportunities and we
feel like the best way to do that is
regardless of the city's source or the
project whether it's tell Shore or
general fund getting back to the mayor's
sorry the senile old cap the getting the
back to a situation where we transfer
the money to the affordable housing fund
and then we can record that
appropriately so that's all I had man
you can't take housing from tell Shore
or the general fund we we generally
think the Telstra fund for more
emergency housing like sheltering or
serving the homeless or victims of
domestic violence in relatively short
order
sure either's appropriate appreciate
that you know
when I'm hearing the updates it's just
kind of getting from my perspective
where these agencies are at what are
their the positives and negatives you
know where where are they at with the
funding you know those kinds of things
so if I hear you correctly the funding
that we provided last week it has to go
through a procurement process because of
the federal guidelines yes mayor mayor
pro-tem not for us we can execute that
agreement with habitat on its own
habitats end to use the money for
construction they have to go through
procurement because of our other
contributions from federal funding
sources god okay Thank You mayor thank
you everybody
okay so let's go to the next update and
that is the micro loan program and I
believe dr. Griselda Martinez discuss or
present yes good morning technology it's
great when he works right I'm gonna
share my stream here
all right good morning mayor and city
council my name is crystal de Martinez
economic development director I'm here
to update you on the emergency
assistance micro loan program that do
you have approved in the last two weeks
through two different sources and I'm
going to just summarize the history of
the funding sources on April 10th as
part of the resolution allocating 1
million dollars for assistance through
the tail Shore funds we receive seventy
four thousand five hundred dollars for
the technical assistance program during
the discussion in City Council in the
use of the Telstra fund it was
recommended that a different funding
source should be funding this program
although it is related to coverage city
manager's office felt that it was more
appropriate to utilize the different
funding source so we went back to City
Council on April 17 where the funding
source was changed from tariffs on to
general fund and that's where the
funding source is right now and how
we're planning to move forward to fully
fund this program a little bit of
background on on this program as I
mentioned before this program is really
tailored to alleviate some of the
challenges that small businesses are
facing and if a double-double effort one
is a technical assistance that can be
provided to them by talking to them by
connecting them to resources and also to
make sure that they are prepared to
receive loans shall they need it and
that they are eligible to to be to pay
in full
so we had already identified a financial
gap in our community for small
businesses who already faced challenges
in accessing resources and with this
current situation we decided to move
forward with a quick with a smaller
amount to be able to meet the needs of
the emergency so right now
following our recruitment process we're
evaluating the quotes and we're defining
a contract for six months I want to make
sure that it's clear that these services
are above and beyond what this partner
agency would have been doing otherwise
the partner agency is is define as a
community development financial
institution and certified CDFI s-- are
in nature by it by their mission as a
certified entity serving low and medium
income communities including businesses
so in their mission its imprint for them
to align what we're looking for and what
they're ready to find to do so they
there are part of their mission is to
bring economic opportunities to
low-income communities and providing
access to financial products for
residents and businesses so the business
performance measurements that we are
aligning in our contract as a line with
other performance contracts that we have
in place with other service providers we
are really focusing on technical
assistance which will include one-on-one
visits between the CDFI staff and
businesses other consultation forms such
as information sharing as well as
educational workshops we believe
strongly that businesses struggle to
connect to resources and so this would
be another forum to connect resources to
the needs of the business owners one key
component here is once a business it's
strongly positioned with all the
knowledge that they have to have to be
able to be ready to request a loan that
they remain in business not just for the
repayment of the loan but for for next
steps after that another key component
to CDFI s-- is that they they provide
loans to the traditionally non bankable
businesses so
the goal would be for businesses to be
strong enough to transition eventually
to a bank a more traditional bank and
another item here is that we are looking
at the conversion rate of the technical
assistance that this CDF I partner would
do and then how that translate into
actual loans which would mean more
capital acts that businesses have access
to another big element here is that
traditional banks do not usually Lin
amounts less and $100,000 and through
these technical assistance we would be
looking at loans much smaller than that
to go from two thousand all the way to
fifty thousand so as per the discussion
from last week we are revising we have
revised the contract to include
reporting of demographics the type of
businesses and in two key elements that
I want to highlight is that this small
businesses in our community
are the ones providing jobs to community
members so for us to focus on the number
of jobs as a as a key component to
providing opportunities for our
committee members it's important and
also how much average sales the
businesses have because that translates
into a metric of success success for our
community success for businesses and
success for for people job seekers
looking for opportunities also as I
mentioned the the transition between
technical assistance and actual loans
it's important and so we'll be
monitoring closely these items as well
as utilizing this this technical
assistance as say as councillor Stewart
mentioned last week as in economic
gardening strategy - for business
retention in our expansions and and to
translate into business
I mean jobs routine so with
I open it up for discussions and like I
said we are in the review process of the
contract and we will keep you posted as
soon as this contract is in place we are
planning to promote it through our email
blasts once the service are available
and also we're we're working with our
partners including the Chamber's movida
Arrowhead Center small business
development centers for them to help us
promote this opportunity and make
information available for small business
owners in our community
thank you dr. Martinez looks like a
counselor sort has a comment and
counselor photos I thank you mr. mayor
and thank you dr. Martinez that yes this
is sounds very interesting
I am little confused on this whole thing
I was wondering if this is this a result
of the probit 19 epidemic or assist
something completely different unrelated
this was a result of the Hobart 19 I
think one of the counselors either Mayor
Pro Tem or Kelso Vasquez or become one
of them asked to have this put on and I
was looking at it have us donate that
money I thought this is a good program
long time ago and and I did I'm
wondering it just is the epidemic just
the emphasis to get this going now more
than ever and if so how does it relate
to the federal grants and loans that are
being given to small businesses
well I think if I if I made dr. Martinez
two things real quick
chanceless org I think this really
matches well with that Movida study that
we're going to be seen because I think
you're gonna see they're probably going
to come back not only on ways up this is
the starting up if they do start up but
you're also going to see an emphasis now
on on PPEs and ways to keep residents
and the public safe from you know like
disinfectants so this I think is going
to mirror real well and to to help those
businesses that are even looking at
starting the business and this might be
one of the focuses that be sort of
things so yeah so in other words this is
just for supplies and efforts for the
it's it's a loan just it's a small loan
to start you know maybe it's so it's not
a grant so it's it's a loan to various
businesses that want to start up and and
there could be a lot of home-based
businesses that that need some type of
money to begin with products with
supplies you know maybe they're gonna
start selling mass maybe they're gonna
start selling gloves I don't know but
that's why I said I think it's gonna
bode well with our study that we're
gonna hear from Evita down the road and
then I assist was going to say that
other program that the federal
government has counselor is for a lot of
it are existing businesses that already
have employees going on PPP that's for
current employees are current businesses
that have employees that they don't want
to have them go on the the unemployment
magnet they're paying them still and
then their other one that the government
has the economic economic development or
economic injury I forgot the name alone
but that's more of a long-term loan
anyways that means that dr. Garcia I
mean dr. Martinez discussed some thank
you mayor mayor Councillor honest org I
appreciate your interest in your
questions this is another in we had
identified a gap in access to financial
resources to small businesses however in
light of covet
this became a crucial need we have as
you may have received communication by
businesses business owners are
struggling more than ever and this is
just during the the current situation we
expect a very hard situation after even
after we opened the economy and we need
to connect resources to businesses and
and for them to stay afloat and remain
in business it is important for business
owners to get connected to resources
when all these federal programs and
state programs became available business
owners were overwhelmed with information
and the processes are often very
complicated and so part of the process
of this technical assistance is to
connect the resources and to help
business owners navigate the the
existent opportunities for federal or
state programs and so our partner who
would be expected to be knowledgeable of
all the different loans available and to
help them connect to to those resources
additionally CDFIs have been made
eligible to receive funding from the
federal government that can be allocated
to those businesses that they're working
with and so it's not only the funding
that they already had or or funding that
available previously but additional
funding that has become available for
this given this current situation and so
it's continuing to connect the resources
and helping small business owners who
may be overwhelmed with the current
situation and with the amount of
information to navigate the system and
get the adequate assistance that they
need these loans then are to help small
businesses I get to help them get
federal loans and grants under the care
exact another legislation that's being
passed by the federal government I don't
understand it
that's that's one aspect counselor
historic another aspect you see the
Community Development financial
institutions already have funds because
that's part of what some of these CDFI
s-- already do and so it can be a
two-fold access to to financial capital
the one available through the did I lose
you know already available through their
funding resources plus the additional
funding available made available through
this current situation
have you had inquiries about this kind
of help from businesses counselors sort
gifts actually this week we have we had
two inquiries from business owners
trying to find resources and trying to
find either loans or grants that can
support them through this very difficult
times and as we continue to work with
decision sending our eblasts
communications we expect this to to
become more prevalent another item that
I want to bring awareness is that we are
available in case any business is
looking to connect to resources i want
to make available the email address that
we have for businesses to connect with
us its econ dev ec o n de b at last
Cruces org and so as I mentioned last
week if you have anyone looking for
support assistance or resources please
refer them to us where we're going and
it's going to be very important to
continue to support our business owners
you know
community yeah I send that to me in an
email please I'll spread the word so
until a little confused here
so they these businesses need this
startup money a few thousand dollars in
order just to apply for a federal loan
just so you know this can be this
funding can be utilized for them for
whatever restrictions the financial
institution may have but for the most
part funding that they access to through
these loans can be used for operations
okay it's not it's it can be startup
capital but it can be to remain in
operation or to expand in the current
situation I would not see expansions as
the number one item although some
businesses are growing but majority of
businesses are struggling to stay in in
business and so I would see majority of
these loans going to to keeping the
business in operation okay
thank you very much again I this is
something that I've been thinking about
her been talking to say for example
Terra del Sol was interested in just a
similar kind of a thing and I'm I was
hoping we would have done it a long time
ago on but anyway yes the economic
gardening you mentioned is what this is
all about - on that technical assistance
is really important so in the end when
the money's all used up come back to us
and say how well the program went okay
yes sir our plan is to keep monitoring
the results very closely and as we
discussed last Friday we want to make
sure that we continue to address the
needs as we see them in our community
great thank you very much thank you man
so before you pick alistair florida sai
counselor sword let me just share
something with you that we may want to
consider thinking about so obviously
there's a lot of restaurants now that
are
one who's really capitalizing that's
doing really well every time I Drive up
Lomond is chick-fil-a I mean they have a
double drive-through right and so when
you stop think about it some of the
restaurants that are going to have
challenges are those without a
drive-thru window and and I wonder if
maybe we need to look at possibly being
able to help those businesses maybe even
through some type of a microloan I don't
know but if that's something that we
might want to consider I'll share with
you something that that true story so my
first job was at Taco Bell okay when I
was fifteen and a half right here just
right down the street
it didn't have a drive-through and and
and then they decided to put the
drive-through in and business increased
30% I mean this is like 1978 that's how
and so drive-through really you know
helps I mean people want to get out of
the car and they want to get the food
and so what better way is to maybe look
at some of these businesses that if we
were to relax some rules and maybe help
with drive-through modifications on the
restaurants because if not you're gonna
see the the ones with the Drive thrus I
mean I I see CSUN or Express they're so
busy they're one lane on the moment is
is blocked you know so these are things
that that that has stuck for so the
let's say Martinez was saying that
there's some that are really frightening
and and some that aren't and then the
ones that are thriving the ones with the
drive-through windows mayor I would be
okay with that if it was a local
business the fact owned by local people
here but not for a national chain I
would disagree with helping financially
with the national chain sure no I
understand and just just the FYI
sometimes those national chains
counselor are are owned by local
business owners because they're just
franchises but there are company stores
and then those franchise stores there's
a slight share the distinction counselor
Florida's you are next and then come for
a baby Thank You mr. mayor and thank you
dr. Martinez but your wonderful work
I've always felt that the city is quite
fortunate to have
you too have you and our economic
development director so thank you so
much for doing this work I think that
it's our small businesses and I agree
with counselors board I would like to
have the local businesses helped out
more I think they would be prioritizing
my mind I don't know what your
guidelines would be but so my question
is so the status right now is that this
contract that you're looking at to
provide you with a bunch move forward on
this is in process is that what I'm
interested or mayor mayor Councillor of
Florida
the funds were allocated through the
resolution that was that you all
approved last week we working through
our recruitment process we have drafted
the contract and it's under review by
legal and purchasing so we expect
similar to what Natalie green presented
earlier we expect this contract to be in
place before we can actually start the
services with our partner so once the
procurement process is finalized is that
when you're going to send out an email
blast to make small business owners now
informed about this and how how soon do
you think that will be yes ma'am
mayor Councillor FLOTUS we have been
communicating with businesses through
through since since they started and
this will be blasted out as an
additional resource made available for
them we will be working closely with
legal and purchasing to expedite this
contract so we will keep you posted as
soon as this is approved and finalized
but we will we will make a big outreach
to our community to make sure that
people are aware of this opportunity do
you have a timeline or any time how long
it would take I'm just wondering I would
I would think our small businesses are
drowning
correct us are hurting correct I would I
wouldn't want yes ma'am we we are
working through this as quickly as
possible and I agree with you the this
is time is of the essence so we we're
emphasizing that as we work through our
process so thank you very much yes ma'am
thank you very much dr. Martinez Thank
You mr. mayor
Thank You councillor bait the Stevie you
know and thank you dr. Martinez I'm
curious to see what guidance will come
out from the state level on what
industries they expect to be kind of
phased back in and I think that's going
to be important for us to look at I
worked at a restaurant and time I was 16
till what 23 so I am very well aware of
that type of industry and I think
they've been able to adapt fairly
decently in comparison to a lot of other
industries you know most are still able
to find a way to continue on having
their doors operated and open I'm very
concerned about some industries that
can't open it all right now they have no
other function if we take even like ones
that have high levels of personal
contact like our lung and a lot of them
are female own as well and we know that
they're that high level of contact I
would expect for them to be in the first
or second fact to be open so looking at
ways that we can maybe even target those
industries that are going to be last
nonetheless to offer assistance I think
might be something to consider thank you
for that recommendation counselor I've a
chance to V we will we will consider
further what sectors those may be but
you you have a really important point
that some may be struggling more than
others yeah and like I said I I think
some businesses have been able to adapt
very well and not
I mean yeah I've been really inspired by
the creativity and what people can do
but like I said there's some that - they
can't be open at all in any fashion
right now and and that's going to be
hard and it it looks like those are also
industries that probably can't be open
for a while thank you well thank you dr.
Martinez I think that concludes our
updates on the various two programs that
we were discussing last week so before
we close I just have a couple things I'd
like to ask Council so if we were to go
to the next Friday that would be May
first and I was just wondering if you
wanted to you know the Monday is May 4th
so the couple of items that we may need
to discuss only on Friday if you want to
move it to two may May 4th which would
be Monday and then skip next Friday May
1st meeting so that's the first thing I
want to ask your good was May 4th I'm ok
with May 4th mr. mayor is there anything
that we need like constant follow-up or
reporting on some of the funds that are
have been some some of the funds that
we've allocated any developments but oh
we can have that on the May 4th meeting
and as part of our council meeting sure
of course being agenda item well nup
date just a discussion just to give you
numbers and for normally for council but
for the public as a whole and then
because the main thing the reason why we
had to have today's meeting was to
extend that resolution and so by Nick by
by May 4th we won't it won't you know we
could probably have another one we may
have to have another one that following
Friday to extend the oh no that's I take
that back
ours is good until the governor's
declaration
nevermind forget that okay okay the
second thing is I'm thinking of putting
on that council agenda is a moratorium
on you TVs so just thought I'd share
that with you because they're there
we're getting too many complaints you
know initially I thought these you TVs
we're just gonna be on the weekends
driving on some small streets to get to
to ride in the desert but they're just
all there just seem to be all over the
place and then the most important thing
is or the bad thing about it is ATVs are
on the street now yeah I don't know if
they think that this is just a you know
free-for-all but I'm not asking for any
comment of you all but I just didn't
want you to be surprised
whether you choose to support the
moratorium you know that's that's
councils prerogative I just thought I'd
share with you that that's gonna provide
I've asked legal to at least draw that
up and the moratorium would be at least
30 days 60 days until we get through
this endemic because right now you know
a lot of people were home and a lot of
these drivers are you know have their
buffers off and which are not supposed
to and we don't need our Police
Department necessarily trying to stop
the name of other things I got to deal
with and they have to deal with with you
know
loud and car or vehicles and things of
this nature that shouldn't be so this is
our way of helping to contribute to at
least keep this under control that might
be the way to go I just thought I'd
share that with you all okay if there's
nothing further entertain a motion to
adjourn
okay tell me one second
a motion made by councillor Flores and
second by councilor story that we
adjourned all those in favor signify by
saying aye aye those opposed
yeah we're adjourned it's 1144 a.m. and
councillor florida so the governor
texted back and she said she says mr.
mayor thank you for your interest I'm
working with John Bingham in the group
now and we were sure interest with
Mighty
they say and give my regards to Yvonne
so just kidding but she didn't say that
though I mean she okay so all right
we're adjourned we'll see you guys have
a good weekend