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to the work session Los crus city
council today is Tuesday May 26 2020
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Pledge of Allegiance I want to ask um
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also have a a rendition of our national
anthem from saraka she's gonna play the
guitar as well so uh please join me in
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the United States of America and to the
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of all right thank
you thank you very much Sarah very
nice brings a little bit of uh
of memories when we used to have that
all the time in the council chamber so
thank you very much for doing that my
pleasure okay so we also have our pet of
the week so I know
Jennifer uh Martinez
will be introducing that all right good
afternoon mayor good afternoon members
of council uh like to share my screen
with you real
quick okay today I will be introducing
you
to
Yuri see here are you able ble to see
Yuri no not
yet okay how about
now
now I just hold up his
picture just tell us a little bit about
him I'm gonna get some assistance from
Adrian real quick so give me one moment
all right no problem while you're doing
that it looks I I see a grant Taylor are
you this grant Taylor that I I knew from
like 25 years ago that somehow was with
on on whom you made
it what's that oh wow tremendous impact
you know sure grateful to you and uh
some of the the words you had for me
when I was still in my formative stage
trying to figure out my direction in
life so it's great to see you yeah good
to see you you're in the East part of
the state aren't you uh for the last
four years I've been in Albuquerque oh
but but yeah that's right I was in Hobs
for eight years yeah okay good good to
see over there so you're with C Labs
okay ah now I see it yeah that's why I I
was um I saw your your name I didn't
have C Labs there so I thought maybe you
join the
city no I've been working with Mark lman
for the last six months and Mark oh okay
sure sure sure yeah that was that
assessment that we had done correct and
and so we're looking forward to giving
you a report on that today um you know
thanks to Davin Lopez with M as well as
to the economic development department
Dr Martinez and Dr pet is okay great
well thanks Grant well it looks like we
got our pet of the week here so think
Jennifer will take it
away I've since moved locations since
last week and I'm here in the the office
today so a little bit different for me
to get this all set up anyway I'd like
to introduce you to Yuri Yuri is cool
calm and collected she is very
affectionate and will quickly form a
strong bond with the right family her
golden eyes will surely draw your
attention and her demeanor will capture
your heart she sure does love to walk
and play and of course get belly rubs
you can meet yri at the animal service
center of the msia valley online right
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again as I said the adoptions are free
you can go to
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suited to your home and lifestyle keep
only the type and number of pets which
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Shelter and health care and
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commit to the relationship for the life
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would like to also remind you some
covid-19 tips if you have been tested
you can get test results they are
updated to a New Mexico portal each day
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p.m. I'm sorry they're updated at 9 and
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you'll be asked to put in your name your
birthday and the date that you were
tested thank you mayor okay thank you
Jennifer Okay so we've got two two items
on the agenda excuse me first one is 1.1
which is the covid-19 economic flash
assessment report and if you recall um
Council this was uh Davin had had a
short
presentation and this was to kind of
share or get a jump on what what are the
businesses might look like or need as we
begin the phase of reopening and so I
know Dr padas is here as well as our uh
longtime friend Grant Taylor so um Dr
padis are you gonna lead this
off Mr Mayor members of city council how
are you Francisco PES for the record I
am just going to introduce uh Mr Grant
Taylor which I know you know you know
him uh Mr Paul hamri uh both of them
from C Labs Community Economic Labs uh
this is a request as well as Davin Lopez
a long time known from from city council
uh this is their request that that city
council and yourself Mr Mayor had back
in April the 10th in the special meeting
of April the 10th in which you suggested
having a an economic flash assessment
for the impact that covid would have in
our business community so with that I'll
I'll I'll move it to and I think it's Mr
Paul hamri that is going to present on
the results and I think it's Mr Davin
Lopez who is going to be leading some of
of the conclusions along with this so I
can share my screen unless Adrian do you
have the presentation
or and Paul you can probably share your
screen as well I could do that if that's
preferable would you like me to share my
screen yes please go ahead by all
means all right hopefully this is coming
through is everybody able to see
this yes
excellent uh all right well welcome
everyone and thank you thank you for
putting up with uh with an online
presentation versus an in person of
course it would be better if we could
all be in the same room but uh I just
want to start out thanking Dr PS and Dr
Martinez over at the economic
development department as well as uh Mr
Mayor uh and the members of council and
Davin Lopez also at Mita Who provided a
invaluable amount of assistance in
putting this together uh C lab is a not
for-profit Sy tank we're focused in uh
uh economic and Workforce Development
solutions that match to the needs of the
21st century economy and bringing those
those solutions to uh communities like
Los cruus we feel really privileged to
be included and and uh to uh to be able
to provide this service um we've been
around for about 10 years and we we have
this process that effectively helps
Community leaders reach Clarity and
consensus on how to get the most out of
their Economic Development efforts and
how to plan and manage their future
economies uh so this uh this uh
assessment that we've done is a variant
on what we have been performing for for
quite some time starting with jobs
Council and developing its way to to
where we are today so the uh primary
questions that this assessment was
intended to answer are how many jobs
does the community need to restore or
create or recover from the economic
crisis
um and what changes might be needed to
to the uh community's Economic
Development uh programs uh whether they
be new programs or or changes to
existing programs in order to to reach
recovery uh at the maximum rate possible
so to answer these questions we convened
a group of about 15 stakeholders with
the help of mavita and and the city uh
to uh they were they were key industry
leaders Economic Development
professionals uh and uh and various
other players in Economic Development
and Workforce Development
and um we we asked them to come to
unanimous consensus on all the findings
and so this report will be the findings
that they agreed upon uh for for
answering these questions um bear with
us with the time uh this is normally
somewhat of a longer presentation but
I'm going to be pushing us uh quite a
high
pace and uh so uh there will be some
clarification hopefully through the
report that we're going to be publishing
uh following this up very soon uh but
we're available to answer questions uh
by email as needed
so first I need to get some principles
that we we banked on for this
deliberation first is economic base
principle um the economic base is the
part of the economy that are P the jobs
that are paid for by money outside of
the State uh so that effectively grows
the economic piie so that the service
jobs which is local exchange uh gets to
grow and have more and more uh resources
every year uh so if you an assumption we
made is if you gain a job on the econom
ecomic base you're going to induce
service jobs at the same way if you lose
a job in the economic base you lose
service jobs so the the the main of
purpose of this was agreed to uh to
preserve and grow the economic base uh
back to to pre-crisis
levels so uh the the way we assess
things taxonomy we use is we look at
economic development in terms of program
theaters which are basically distinct
ways that economic based jobs are
created so there are nine of these
theaters um I in the report there's a
very detailed description of each uh
just Loosely U employer would be what
mavita does effectively federal
government those are federal funded jobs
like a military or border or NASA
extractors and energy that's mining oil
Gas Energy solo work uh another term
remote work uh there jobs you can do
from home or without a central office
visitor and tourism very very intuitive
retirement recruiting active retirees
that come and and locate in your
neighborhood and uh and spend their
money like they had a job but it's out
of their economic based pension and
startup that's entrepreneurship and
incubators and accelerators film
projects we know about film and finally
agriculture anything grown or raised or
any crop so uh those are all supported
they all look to the community and and
other players to support them with these
factors of production which are
effectively the the the way that they
improve uh the community and and are
able to draw attention to the community
as a vibrant place to locate a business
or to create jobs uh they require these
four categories of factors of production
to be lined up in the right ways in the
right
quantities U so again this I will I will
not go into detail about theaters but
the report will contain details about
those and we are happy to answer those
questions just know that we focused on
these as the areas where jobs could be
recovered so as far as the pattern the
crisis will take uh what we asked for is
to outline dates for key points we have
four key points along this Continuum uh
starting with the onset of the crisis we
we looked at January 2020 the group
agreed would be the date that the first
effects of the crisis would be felt the
trough point is the low point where uh
the the maximum negative impact would
have happened uh effectively it's where
all of the uh all of the businesses have
been as closed down or or downsized as
much as is going to happen and then uh
start to pull out the other side by
regaining whatever Market they l
so between that point and the reset
point the reset point is where any jobs
that are going to return without help
have already come back so if a business
is is just downsizing that they didn't
lose a market but they rather just had
to shut down by the by the state mandate
they uh when they reopen they're likely
going to get a lot of those jobs back so
all of the jobs that could come back by
themselves will have come back by June
of 2022 according to the group's
estimation from there you've got a long
uphill grind just to recover all those
jobs through the programs that that
you're going to need to uh either
upscale or or start up uh to to reach a
full recovery by January of 2025 so
that's kind of the temporal separation
of this now we're going to look at the
quantities of of job loss and gain so to
start out we look we assessed all uh all
of these um key Industries these are the
key nakes code Industries uh that
comprise any economy we looked at how
many jobs there are based on existing
data sources from Workforce Solutions uh
and from uh uh from external data
sources like chimura data uh um jobs EQ
various data sources to to establish
total employment and then we estimated
how many of those jobs are paid for by
funds outside of the economy the ebase
so we arrived at a total for the economy
all the of all the jobs in L Cruis 30%
of them are economic
base um from there we looked at the loss
exposure this is the this is the big
question how many jobs are going to get
lost uh and this is looking at uh over
an entire 5year period uh you're going
to be seeing uh 2.8% annual natural
attrition that's not related to the
crisis not related to Co at all it's
just something that's built into the uh
the life cycle of the economy and then
you're going to see the group estimates
as much as 40% uh job loss from covid
now bearing in mind that those are
thinking about all the businesses that
have had to close and non-essential
employees that were sent home for a time
a lot of that's going to come back on
its own right so um this this uh
breakdown is the temporary versus
permanent loss assessment and as you can
see the blue portion is those temporary
losses that are expected to come back uh
without needing a a huge amount of
assistance uh rather just when the
market reopens you'll you'll see that
recovery but the red portions are the
portions that we need to be concerned
with and so um what that represents is
this red portion of of these two
Graphics so the the red portion is the
total number of jobs that are
anticipated to be lost in the next five
years and you see them divided between
economic base and Service as well as
between natural attrition and covid
attrition so I want to draw your
attention to the difference between
these two scenarios um on the scenario
on the left the program elevates the uh
efforts in the prioritized program
theaters and they're able to recover all
the economic based losses plus a little
bit of a gain out of induced service
jobs and the result is that you actually
can reach a full recovery and be it your
pre pre-crisis levels within five years
now the the substance of that is in uh
your program theater uh potential so on
the outside band of the one on the left
you see employer theater remote work
theater startup theater and retirement
theater those are Central points of
discussion in the group that were
identified as possible areas where the
crisis would not severely inhibit job
creation but uh there was a lot of
potential for Recovery in those
particular particular theaters now that
said there are five other theaters and
all of them are going to be key players
in in reaching a full recovery because
they all need to get back to whatever
market share that they had before the
crisis came along so uh these are just
some areas of focus that seem to be high
potential to the group but uh but there
was some discussion around the other
theaters as well now um the point of
this is if you can see the amount of
economic base recovery actually exceeds
the amount of economic base loss so
that's a very key because on the on the
right hand graph business as usual this
is effectively a scenario where no
change is made to the existing Economic
Development capacity and uh so it's
going to end up being con constricted by
this crisis to where you won't be able
to recover all of the economic base you
lose so what that looks like over time
is that the economy shrinks in size uh
not not just aggressively at first but
over time it will not be able to within
five years at least uh reach a full
recovery uh so that that's a just a
comparison between uh an elevated effort
and what might happen if if things are
allowed to just manage themselves if you
will we're we're comparing a managed
effort to a sort of a l Fair
effort so a little bit of detail about
the program theaters um that were
identified here so remote work is
is a sector that's being really enhanced
by by this crisis it's odd to say but uh
in truth a lot more businesses are
considering work from home options
Nationwide so there might be an
opportunity for actually recruiting some
of those to come and live in Las cruus
simultaneously those who are displaced
in the service sector can be upskilled
uh to where they could occupy a remote
work job um there there is a swath of of
different options there where you entry
level all the way to pretty Advanced um
and uh it's up to the community to
identify a good strategy for for
harnessing that pattern and turning it
into a program um so um it was conceived
that5 200 jobs over the next 5 years
could be realized uh with with a good
program so the employer theater that's a
that's a predominantly mavita but also
some activity in the Spaceport uh there
is a there is a uh a guess that really
the the um the ability to create jobs
will be inhibited uh from its normal
routine so the jobs that that mavita can
create might not it should be expected
that they might not be able to hit the
same levels if can't pivot to to new
conditions so this is expecting that if
they can pivot to new conditions get
some higher quality leads uh for
onshoring opportunities that's one
primary area and uh and also uh just
having a having a an elevated approach
and really if I'm honest there's a there
are a few places that are more worthy to
invest in than mavita just to complement
their efforts in the past I'd say that
uh Davin and his team consist of one of
the top econom iic development programs
not just in the state but really in in
the nation uh so good place to invest
and to to look for new jobs um startup
theater and retirees have somewhat less
potential but uh still very valid and
and uh mainly startup would rely on the
existence of a fund that would uh create
a a startup ecosystem some of the
details are contained in the report in
retirees there's already a program that
that does that it would just need to be
focused on and elevated and have a have
more strategy developed around uh how
many retirees could in fact be located
to to Los cruus in the middle of this
time uh so this is a quick download of
the status of the theaters the the uh uh
your employer theater uh is about at
half of what um it could realize with an
elevated effort but uh basically we're
talking about new capacity needing to be
built for remote work startup and
retirement
theaters uh there was some discussion
around other theaters even though we
didn't have a a job estimate uh we know
that visitor tourism will be hit hard by
the pandemic but they ought to be able
to recover what they had what they had
lost if if a strategy can be defined uh
and a critical path for how that will
happen but the estimation was yeah
that's a realistic expectation that that
we could get to pre-crisis tourism
levels um federal government uh was a a
subject but they are under likely to
undergo a hiring freeze in the immediate
future that said uh you could drive more
federal dollars uh through a whether
it's a federal delegation taking an
agenda we need to Drive money to
Southern New Mexico for for getting more
federal employment to happen U you guys
have a lot of of that going on already
so that's that's an asset that could be
utilized and then with film all the film
has been frozen for right now but really
all that really depends on what the
state decides for incentives will they
maintain the incentives or will they
change the incentives if they change
them could be an impact if not it's a
reasonable expectation that film would
come back as well but all of this is
relatively suspended for right now so
here's the math um we total attrition
and total basically job creation
recovery needs for the 5year period is
24,800 or so these are percentage
estimates so the numbers look precise
but a range is is a worthy uh estimation
so about 25,000 jobs um of those about
16,000 are going to come back on their
own without needing a program uh 5200
are going to rely on programs that we
outlined uh and and increase capacity in
the economic development uh and if that
could be realized then you'll see an
inducement effect on the service sector
of about 5600 jobs uh so all that totals
up to 27,1 145 which gives you a little
bit of a cushion about 2,000 jobs of
cushion that that gives you the Headroom
to reach full recovery on that fiveyear
schedule uh so what that looks like and
again I'm I'm looking at this green line
is the the elevated line matching to to
the to the graphic on the left from that
earlier slide and the red line is the
one that matches to The Graphic on the
right so you'll see that uh along this
curve uh it's anticipated that there
will be a Divergence between those two
efforts where full recovery is achieved
with that elevated effort by even as
soon as quarter 3 of
24 and uh on the on the no change
scenario a decline might be sustained
for all five years uh so that's that's
kind of the out look here and and really
when it when it comes down to it this is
just the difference between action and
inaction so some of the factors of
production we discussed are more
detailed in the report I won't get into
a huge amount of detail on this uh given
our time constraint so um I would just
encourage you to to dig deep and and
look into the report about what sort of
the conditions are for these uh key
factors of production identified but uh
in closing the the Strategic
implications that we identified are
basically condensed these four items uh
leaders ship uh is going to need to
reevaluate whatever its existing
Economic Development strategy is uh to
to see if it matches the co uh
conditions uh because a lot has changed
about the economy some some stuff for
good like the remote work but a lot of
things for the worse and uh so
reevaluating an existing strategy across
all nine theaters getting the players
that are currently operating in those
theaters uh to to convene put forth
strategy and uh and put themselves in a
position to to cap
if possible and to just brace themselves
and H have some some strategy for how
full recovery is going to be achieved um
so uh other than that so the remote work
program needs to be researched and and
initiated and um there have been a lot
of ideas that are floated about that
there are very good ideas uh and a lot
of options out there it's just coming up
with something that can be realized
quickly and and uh and turned into a job
Creator uh elevating Mita we've talked
about that that it's a good place to
look uh Davin indicated some some some
great potential opportunities that he'll
get into for his presentation um finally
a Workforce Gap analysis would be would
be important it was understood that
upskilling is going to be a big piece of
this where the service sector level of
qualification isn't as rigorous as
economic based qualification uh so a lot
of those people displaced from services
are going to need to have Workforce
Development that matches their needs and
those needs need to be defined so a
Workforce Gap analysis would be a good
place to start where you establish how
many how many of each kind of worker do
we anticipate needing and what is our
supply and what is the way in which we
develop workers according to how many
jobs we're trying to create um so that's
uh that's basically a summary of of
these findings um I I I want to conclude
by just saying that we were super
privileged and glad to be able to to be
a part of this uh this was uh one of our
first opportunities to to to execute one
of these uh we hope that it's been found
valuable but similarly we we also have a
kind of a continuing deeper dive process
uh for for the theaters that that uh
that would effectively build on the work
that's been done if if that is uh
something that uh that is demanded by
this Council and by the mayor but as it
is we we are happy with anything that
that you guys have concluded about this
and we're just privileged to be a part
of it um thank you okay well thank you
Grant was there anything you wanted to
add to this well if it's okay i' I'd
like to defer to Davin Lopez and let him
kind of recap uh his his thoughts on
this okay sounds
good oh there you are D hi
mayor and mayor city council um well
thank you for the opportunity to
allow D excuse me for interrupting can
you just state your name I forgot at the
at the beginning was going to have to
have everyone State their name because
of uh the minutes that are being taken
so absolutely Davin Lopez CEO of melli
Economic Development Alliance and I hope
you can all hear me
okay we can hear you okay not as good as
we heard Paul I don't know what your
speaker is but uh let me let me turn it
up and speak a little bit louder then
okay uh so again thank you for the
opportunity to present to you today uh
what I wanted to talk about was kind of
in in terms of how Mita is looking at
the entire picture of covid and how
we're responding I think uh would led us
first to the suggestion of getting an
understanding of and Analysis of
permanent lost jobs really came about
because back in 2009 I felt that we were
we uh we came out of the recession
flat-footed we didn't really know
exactly what the permanent damage was
going to be to jobs in the area and
therefore the response was very slow so
from the beginning of this and of course
from the beginning everyone's been
talking about what's you know they're
defining what the new normal might be uh
you have economists calling it The the
growth will be the low touch economy you
knew something was happening here that
we that was going to be damaging and to
quantify it was going to be was going to
be critical um along the way we
understood that there were going to be
some challenges there were going to be
some changes to Consumer Behavior as a
result of this changes to employer
behavior and quite frankly
changes to Industry behaviors both
nationally and and internationally so
what we've been trying to do is get
ahead of that conversation and
understanding those those changes and
behaviors as you might all be aware we
uh we have put out two versions of a
consumer Behavior survey uh to try to
better understand how consumers are
responding in terms of their purchasing
Behavior to our local employers that
information I think was valuable to the
actual people we had during this
assessment where uh we were able to
gather a lot more of the employer
Behavior and the changes that they're
making to their business models and
practices and then of course we've read
everything I'm sure you've read the same
thing that I have had uh that I've read
about what's happening in amongst
Industries and we're trying to identify
trends that will help us recover from
the losses that were just presented to
you today and the losses
are they're they're they're going to be
large they're challenging you're talking
about 8,000 jobs that are permanently
lost because of covid and they may never
come back again or they may come back in
a different form and trying to get in
front of that is going to be critical so
what we've used this as as a tool over
the last month is to try to identify
what those Trends might be and get in
front of the conversation from an
industry perspective to then be able to
start the process of uh discussions of
reskilling uh new skill developments
that are going to be required by the
individuals who now have permanent lost
jobs and convert them to the new
opportunities that might take place and
then from a Mita perspective we're
really making a hard pivot and I would
say much like yourselves at city council
over the past month and a half you've
been pivoting as well if we are not all
making a very hard pivot to rethink how
we're going about Economic Development
going forward then we're going to end up
the same thing as we did in 2009 so
along the past month as we've been
evaluating all these Trends there's
three certain areas that we think are
going to be important to the recovery
and I think that that also was captured
and um revalidated through this study
one of them that we are looking at is
the because of supply chain disruptions
worldwide in terms of Manufacturers
trying to get their product to a US
consumer whether that's a business or or
just the end
consumer um we see the need for
onshoring being a huge Trend that
companies are going to move towards
we've already seen a little bit about it
we we've received some calls from site
selectors who are um who have engaged us
about clients that are
changing uh plans that they have had in
place to move their new operations
either to Asia or to India or other
third world countries that they're
perceiving that as now a new risk as
going forward just like you wouldn't
want to put a $100 million investment in
an earthquake zone the risk of supply
chain disruption is going to be too
great going forward uh due to another
pandemic so we've been hearing that
already and we've been trying to now
think about how do we position ourselves
to market the area for that change and
Trend in the industry that may be coming
uh as was mentioned by Paul it was
already a trend taking place but when
you have companies like Google and
Zillow that are now basically saying
that their employees can work from home
forever you have realized that the
remote work or the gig
economy um has forever changed
commercial real estate will have forever
changed and there there are real estate
investment trusts that are re-evaluating
their
portfolios uh co-working spaces like
weworks and notel have basically said on
that they are changing the way that
their that their office is going to look
and locally we've heard it from many
companies and I'm sure you've all
experienced it yourselves the discussion
of working from home is is now going to
be accepted it's going to be more
accepted
widely um that being said we think
there's going to be opportunities as was
mentioned by Paul to tap into that not
only to recruit potential Talent here
who can who can really travel with their
W2s anywhere in the world but also
really to give our give more
opportunities to our local uh community
and residents to tap into employers that
are hiring wherever those employers may
be located so we've been trying to get
in front of that conversation I'll tell
you how in a second and then thirdly we
think food security and sustainability
is going to be a critical issue going
forward we've all uh we've all heard
about you know the meat supply issues
beef supply issues that are taking place
around the country um one of the things
we feel that with our neighbors in El
Paso and Chihuahua we are in a perfect
Zone not only from beef and meat but
also to produce to be really position
ourselves as a u a leading area for food
security and processing going forward
those are the three areas um that we
have seen over the last month and a half
that will present opportunities well
what's next well first of all uh there
are things policy-wise that we've
already been discussing with both the
association of Commerce and industries
and New Mexico idea along with several
legislators that we need to pos position
ourselves to be competitive for on a
Statewide basis uh those the discussions
that have come out of this modeling has
have gotten us in front of those
conversations with these legislators to
hopefully maybe introduce some things
that might be that might put New Mexico
at a competitive disadvantage to these
industries um if we cannot get them into
the special session because they're they
are either not on the governor's call or
cannot be considered germine to the
special session it is something that we
are looking at putting for forward in
terms of the uh the full session in in
uh in 2021 let me give you an example of
what that might be um policy-wise we may
not be in a great area New Mexico may
not have the right tax policy to
convince outof State companies who may
not have a footprint in New Mexico to
hire new Mexicans for their remote work
so those are tweaks or changes to tax
policy that will need to take place to
be competitive uh we've already
introduced to the job training incentive
program policy board the idea that we
need to change
jtip uh to include the ability for out
ofate employers to recruit or to hire
new Mexicans so these are just some
couple of examples that we're trying to
get in front of already in terms of the
discussion uh to to make ourselves more
competitive for these industries the
other thing is um uh food security and
sustainability uh We've we've learned
along the way mayor you and I have
discussed that um we do not have policy
here in the state that allows for Beef
Processing to take place without USDA
approval and as a result of that we
cannot get our local produc our local
cattle uh produced to the local consumer
Market whether that be restaurants or
end consumers uh state law just does not
allow it and we legislated ourselves out
of that back in 2007 I believe so these
are discussions that we're now
introducing through ACI to introduce the
legislature going forward with respect
to onshoring there's some tax policies
we need to look at at the state level to
make us more competitive as well so
these are conversations we're trying to
get ahead of and as opposed to what took
place in 2009 where it took two three
four years in order for us to have these
conversations we're trying to jump on
this right away understand what this is
going to mean to not only our area but
the state but most importantly
understanding that you know 8,000
8,000 employees who have permanently
lost her jobs represents probably 12
133% of the workforce of Los Cruses and
if we don't figure out a way now to
Pivot and get them back into the
workforce um we're going to have greater
challenges even past 2025 as was stated
um I'll leave it at that but that's the
way we've been thinking about it and and
how we've been utilizing the information
that's been derived uh to to get in
front of this discussion and not fall
behind okay thanks Davin we have a few
uh questions from some Council Members
First one is going to be councelor
Vasquez councelor beta stui councelor
Sor and councelor bomo so councelor
Vasquez thank you mayor um and thanks to
to everybody on the call on in our
meeting today um who took the time to to
be here with us and for the
analysis um special shout out to our
Economic Development Department for uh
for also working hand inand with our
consultants and and mavita I hope on
this particular study um so I think you
know we're not in a unique situation I'd
say um in terms of what our local
government and what our local city is
facing in terms of the economic downturn
uh we certainly are more unique to a lot
of other cities a lot of other perhaps
Western States um that have benefited
from um more historical growth in
different industry that allows them to
uh perhaps create more private sector
jobs than we've been able to create
because of our dependence on the public
sector here locally um but but there
certainly are other places like that in
New Mexico in terms of local
municipalities that will face similar
situations and so you know I see it as
us having these layers of both um state
and federal policy right and state and
federal incentives and stimulus that are
coming in uh in addition to um state and
federal econ and National economies and
and where does the local government
where do we fit in in terms of being
able to create local policy local
stimulus smart budget decisions that
helps work hand inand with what our
state and our federal government is
doing but also plays to our to our
assets here in Los cruus and so um in
that sense I do get a little bit of
comfort knowing that there's other
municipalities thinking about this exact
same thing right what's our role in
helping to speed up this economic
recovery once we come out of covid um so
I hope that we also look to other other
local governments to see what creative
things um other folks are doing to
stimulate uh the creation of local jobs
in the recovery um my first question um
and this is for C is is regarding um I
guess maybe just the analysis and the
methodology of this particular study um
what kind of data sources uh were used
to to to figure um to figure out I guess
some of the scenarios that uh that were
in the
presentation um and you know just that
would just be helpful in learning more
about how you came to those conclusions
and the
recommendations uh certainly councelor
yeah the uh the sources that we drew
from excuse me Paul can you state your
name please of course yeah this is Paul
hamri from uh from Community economics
lab um and uh yeah so so the the data
sources that we we drew from were uh
we're a I believe the jobs EQ source
that the city uses this is from Economic
Development Department of the city uh
they that they they have data access to
to a data broker basically that uh that
does frequent studies drawing from
Census Data uh and local community
surveys uh to feed uh employment and uh
establishment um per industry so we
started on the per industry level with
those posted numbers from official data
sources we asked for uh the consensus
from the industry leadership uh about
what was going to happen to those
Industries and a lot of them are
undergoing this in their own businesses
right now so thinking of restaurants for
example that they they currently know
how many of their employees are fured
how much business they anticipate losing
how long it might take to reopen their
dining rooms and that they can use that
Personal Touch and experience to feed
some of these uh Nuance numbers like
percentage loss percentage temporary
versus permanent that that's basically
the the methodology and we we ask them
again if if anybody in the room has a
reason to think that might not be right
or it's a little high it's a little low
uh please let us know another thing that
we do is uh and and uh we we have to we
have to do this for for the city report
uh and there will be a commentary uh
attached to the report uh with with this
analysis we have a a a a local Economist
that we have review our uh information
and uh and he gets to sort of give his
feedback about having his finger on the
pulse of of a lot of different places
what he thinks might be worth
consideration for where to amend versus
complimentary of where things seem
consistent does that answer your
question uh yes and Mr hammock apologize
if you mentioned this and I may have
missed it but those those surveys with
industry leaders um or that
communication was that done through um
like a a survey a written survey of like
a inperson or a um virtual focus group
or um that kind of thing and then uh
it's okay if it's proprietary to your
research in terms of the local Economist
I don't know if you don't want to name
him but I know we we do often rely at
the city on a couple of local economists
um who have provided a sound advice so
I'm wondering if it's somebody that that
we've worked with in the past that was
that was Gabe Vasquez just talking oh I
just need you yeah I know we can see
each other but when they do the minutes
they don't watch the video so if you can
kind of keep that
up of your mind uh it'd be appreciative
if you could every time you speak just
kind of mention who you are sorry for
the inconus absolutely thank you m uh
yes thank you Paul hamri again C lab uh
yes the the the the focus it was focus
group style virtually over Zoom took
about six hours a little bit a little
bit more maybe seven um and uh the yeah
that about 15 people the names will be
listed in the uh in the report so you
can see who attended um and uh yeah the
The Economist that we have referenced is
uh Charles Leman of um his his company
is called EIC CNM and I would be remiss
to try to know what that means but he's
an industry uh and Workforce uh expert
and uh has worked with the uh uh
Department of Labor for for decades and
he's a well well-known Economist mostly
worked for the state for many years so
Mr Mayor and Mr Vasquez this is Grant T
from the the C lab to build on uh Mr
Hamrick's Point uh one Mr Leman is a
retired labor Economist for Department
of Workforce Solutions uh did want to
say really quickly that uh you know
there's nothing easy about where you
find yourselves right now as Community
leaders in the middle of a pandemic
there is real pain uh to individuals to
individual families individual
businesses and what I want to say is
that I really commend the city of Los
Cruses uh you're not just kind of Le the
Leading Edge for the state of New Mexico
on trying to orient yourselves to
respond to this crisis uh it's really
you're on the Leading Edge for the whole
country uh because we're really not
seeing communities uh gather themselves
to be able to have you know an informed
response and so part of that information
as Mr Hammer was saying we do use these
data sources as a baseline but we
heavily rely on the the local expertise
of these industry leaders um to you know
one validate our numbers and then two
you know really be the uh the experts to
uh project where this is going to go and
just like with anything uh we can't uh
see it a crystal ball uh but we
certainly can provide some uh immediate
uh informed decisions that are going to
help get the cogs moving to have a you
know a really effective
response thank you Mr Taylor and uh Mr
Hammer this is Gabe boscus again City
counc
um so so yeah I mean I think
establishing a baseline of um you know
kind of reliability and credibility in
terms of the data sources and the and
the results uh that accompany this
survey is important right for us to to
start discussing um what budget and
policy decisions we can make uh one of
the things that I find myself being
troubled with in this in this pandemic
and and this is both on the public
health and economic front is how
politicized um the response to covid has
become and and and oftentimes uh I find
myself just questioning the the
motivations of responses from folks
right depending on what political um uh
side they they stand on their perception
um might be a lot different than than
others right I think uh you might get
different responses from workers than
you might from from employers at this
particular Point depending on their how
they've experienced this this situation
and how they recover um but but alas um
that's something that we may be really
can't avoid right especially when it
comes to surveying the employers that
are here uh they're going to say they're
they're going to uh give their hopefully
their best honest opinion of what um you
know what their industry is facing and
what their particular business situation
is and so I I'll just have to to rely on
that data um but but like I said just
sometimes get worried that that that you
know in today's times that that data is
sometimes could be skewed politically
but that's for another day another
discussion um regarding the capital um
so when we talk about the economic Local
Economic recovery and the restoration of
jobs um especially worrying to me is you
know if small businesses are pushed out
of business and or or not not
necessarily push that but can't recover
or um you know those who who don't who
aren't able to make it through this are
those businesses or are those services
or Goods then replaced by um wealthy or
national investors right I think are
economic recovery locally um should give
small business owners and local folks a
leg up right and so um in addition to
restoring local jobs I'm also interested
in making sure that those local jobs
generate local wealth um so that the
money stays here in our community um so
are there any thoughts Mr Hamrick or Mr
Taylor in terms of you know what can we
do to make sure that money stays here
and that folks who are able to weather
this storm right investors with lots of
you know big portfolios everywhere
um aren't necessarily kind of dominating
the economic recovery but we're helping
our local folks um uh
rebuild um Mr Vasquez Paul hamri I think
I can comment to that uh at least
Loosely and maybe turn it over to Davin
Lopez to extrapolate maybe uh but uh the
uh the essence is that the programs need
that uh that respond uh have a mandate
and that mandate uh has to be
conditioned around those outcomes that
that uh when when you're looking at
recovery you're not looking at just
numbers on a page there's there's a
person behind a loss and there's a
family and a local business and so um
the the Mandate of of economic
developers in any of those theaters I'm
talking you know not just about mavita
in this case but the tourism theaters
and the and uh the the Main Street
program and the Chamber and everybody
who plays A Part uh that uh yeah if if
there is to be condition and parameters
set around this you're going to have to
set those forth when you Scope the
effort uh and so that that I think uh uh
has yet to be done um okay but but yeah
we we would definitely say that is that
is one ex excellent example of probably
a long string of things that kind of are
the parameters around which a program
needs to operate to effectively recover
uh in the healthiest
way thank you Mr hamri um counselor this
is Davin if if I could also try and take
a stab at answering that question um
keep in mind that no matter what
business it is uh a service business
should I say service businesses are only
going to open and operate as a result of
consumer spending that's available in
the community that's number one uh so
there's going to be some things that are
we we do not know about you quite yet
from our consumer Behavior survey um if
I remember the first round it was
estimated that on average about people
were saying that they would now be
converting what they would normally
spend 7% of what they normally would
spend to savings uh and you could say
that's a good thing right but that's
less money that's going to be spent to
the local community also with 8,000 jobs
that may not come back immediately or or
quickly you're talking about again
people who don't have the money to spend
locally so that's all going to be a
factor in terms of who opens up whether
it's a national chain or whether it's a
local local business but I I do agree um
and and I I'll be very honest some of my
mind thought has changed uh in this
during this period than it was a year
ago um I was always a believer that hey
you know as long as people had access to
jobs that's that's very important but in
this new environment we're in I would
say that we have to think about I don't
have the answers today but I think we
have to think about how do we have
programs or support that will
accommodate local people getting local
business local people forming local
businesses and whether that becomes
localized grants whether it becomes
localized uh uh micro fund micr lending
funds it it's something we probably want
to consider going
forward thank you Davin um this is
Council Vasquez for the record
um I couldn't agree more I mean I think
one thing is returning to the status quo
where New Mexico is probably one of the
first first if not the second state with
the greatest wealth inequality Gap in
the nation right and that means the
people in our state who have and who
have not um there's the most disparity
and I think that's that's a reason we're
also one of the poorest states in the
nation and so I want to look at this as
an opportunity for us to reimagine and
rethink what Local Economic Development
policies look like that help close that
Gap in addition to recovering jobs um
knowing that you you know we're not
going to be able to and don't want to
National investors and outside money
coming in to support that economic
recovery but I'm I'm very interested um
as Mr Hamrick was mentioning and
figuring out how we tackle both of those
strategies um right National investment
and local um or out of town investment
and local job creation in a way that
really prioritizes the building of local
wealth um so that our money stays here
right and and as much as possible um I
think this is a good opportunity for us
to do that part of maybe the silver
lining of of coming out of this um
recover or coming out of covid and into
recovery um uh another question I have
is um Mr hammer or Mr Taylor in your
report um you mentioned uh in one of
your slides leadership um thinking or
rethinking the economic development
approach um wondering if you could
expand on what you mean by leadership
and what you're um referencing there is
it our Economic Development Department
is it our um policy makers right is it
council is it the county is it the state
um could you just talk a little bit more
about what you're thinking in terms of
leadership Mr Mayor and councelor
Vasquez uh the answer is yes uh it
really is you know not only all of these
different entities that were going to
play EXC me is that Grant did you state
your name again I'm sorry I didn't do
that U so Mr Mayor Mr Vasquez this is
Grant Taylor from the C lab the answer
is yes um it's all of those things um
including all of those program theaters
that Mr hamri touched on uh whenever we
go into these more comprehensive types
of Assessments where we are uh doing
deeper Dives on these program theaters
the people who might be responsible for
those program theaters should be in the
room and it's not always uh a mavita
that's covering all of those program
theaters um so you're going to want the
person uh or the entity that covers
tourism uh so your uh destination
marketing entity uh that visit Los cruus
you would want them in the room you want
them being aware of what Mita is doing
and what its goals are and you want
those to trickle up um and you know
couple of things that I guess I was
remiss earlier uh in terms of trying to
verify our numbers we certainly did rely
on the expertise of Dr Petes and Dr
Martinez um as what we call quants uh
you know Mr Leman is going to be one of
our our outside independent quants uh
but we certainly did um appreciate being
able to work with Dr Petes and Dr
Martinez and and you know so in terms of
leadership uh one of the things that
I've seen over the course of my career
in economic development is um just how
not bought in local leaders can be and
that can be local leaders of
organizations uh
taxpayers and uh your representatives
your counselors or Commissioners and it
as a result we've had a lot of lack of
understanding in terms of uh the
expertise required to do this job and
the resources required and so you know I
I did a white paper a couple of years
ago that actually compared Los cruus to
Amarillo and at that time the overall
budget of the city of of mavita was
about
$600,000 compared to Amarillo which had
a lot of the same uh characteristics to
Los cruus where just their payroll was
1.6 million million dollar not even
getting into what they spend for
marketing what they have available to
them for uh incentives so uh you know
that's one of the things that that this
kind of a process helps is really
understand what it takes to create those
jobs and it does take everybody and we
in the ideal situation we'd have
everybody in the room um trying to
confront economic development in a
community from uh from having workers as
you've noted having workers in the room
to say you know what's really Poss POS
and what's really Equitable uh you know
to the employers those being local
employers as well as National one of the
things that we may not have emphasized
is that this report uh showed that for
one economic based job two service jobs
are created and so that economic based
job you know might be manufacturing and
it might be a national employer but it's
helping create jobs at the local level
as
well Mr Vasquez Paul HRI just to
capitalize on a couple of those issues
Grant just mentioned um the yeah the the
leadership in the case of this of this
jurisdiction is is another thing because
there's a sphere of influence that you
have over the immediate and and that uh
advocacy can go can go up to the state
level can go to the federal level we've
talked a little bit about the federal
delegation getting them involved but
there's a more direct influence that
that we're talking about with the local
leadership and so uh you know the the
each of those theaters has a presumed
head or a player that represents the
interest and is in touch with the
activities going on and is looked to as
a thought leader for for that area and
so yeah those are the types of folks
that I guess we
identify um and uh yeah typically so so
in a so our protracted rendition of this
assessment usually
involves uh uh probably four or five
full day meetings um with 30 to 50
participants per meeting uh which uh
which yeah it's a pretty pretty big uh
bite to chew but the the product of that
is that all these individual and
potentially siloed players are now
focused on the same things looking in
the same direction looking at the same
bottom line goals that 24,000 uh
job uh marker and thinking is like okay
what is my direction what is my role
that I'm thinking about needing to play
and what are the mechanics of how I'm
going to play it and how do I record
that so that when I when I'm trying to
describe how I'm how I'm doing how my
effort is working I can describe it in
context of this
overarching parallel strategy for
recovery and so that's the outcome that
that uh is I think the ideal for for
this situation and without a crisis at
all you want your Economic Development
apparatus to all be facing in the same
direction and understand how each one of
them individually plays an essential
role in an overarching Community
Development strategy so that just a
quick capital okay
discussion thank you Mr Taylor Mr hamri
uh this is Gabe Vasquez again um yeah
you know I'm thinking about um at the
macro level you know how the federal
government has come together at least
quickly to uh pass the paycheck uh
protection act the cares Act is now
working on a larger stimulus package and
as a body right Congress is kind of
figuring out okay what what are the uh
what are the policy and budget decisions
that we can make that they can make that
are going to put people back to work and
get local econom is going again and so
on a very micro level thinking about how
we can do something similar right if if
that indeed is our role at least uh City
councilors you know we can control
policy and budget and and sometimes
general direction of where we want the
city to go um and so thinking about
projects like picturing ELO which is um
an infrastructure and a Redevelopment
project for um kind of an old part of
town that potentially creates you know
could create lots of construction jobs
generate new locals for small businesses
provide incentives for storefronts to
locate in a certain part of the city um
you know I could see that being part of
like a local strategy of hey do we need
to speed up this project that we had
planned for two or three years out from
now um in addition to other lever levers
that we can pull um which may include
you know continuing to work with
consultants and contractors and making
sure that that mavita can also you know
have what they need to recruit
businesses um at the national level and
help with analysis to figure out where
we begin to create those jobs I just
want to make sure we're not missing
anything in terms of this analysis and
what our role is as a city council um to
pull on those levers and so um so this
is all this is all very interesting I I
I just want to make sure we we continue
to talk about that in terms of local
response and what we can do um in terms
of the workforce Gap analysis could you
Mr Taylor Mr or Mr hamr just expand a
little bit more on what that or or Mr uh
or DAV what that looks like and what you
think is needed there in the next um in
the immediate
future sure Mr Vasquez or Mr Vasquez
this is Paul Hamrick again uh the the
workforce Gap analysis is something we
have done a couple of different places
and really what it what it comes down to
is combine the local demand already in
existence for Workforce and the level of
qualification a lot of the employers
will have strong opinions about what
they're missing and whether it be soft
skills or hard skills as far you know so
what what what characterize the ideal
employee and how many short are you and
then you quantify those you combine them
together as many ways as you can the
last time we did it we did it by a
written survey followed followed up by
just a a sort of a narrative call that
we would talk through the survey and uh
so we we're able to collect that data
then we go to Workforce Development
agencies that could be higher education
institutions or or more uh State
oriented Workforce Development programs
um or whatever there is really it's we
try to find out who those players will
be and we bring them those employer
demand numbers and we ask them uh how
does how does kind of your not to not
break it down too you know in
impersonally but your production look
like of of employable workers and uh so
when you align those two things really
powerful things happen uh I I like to
use the example and this is before my
time but uh tvi working with Intel uh in
Albuquerque was essential until it would
never have happened because tvi had had
an understanding like you guys need
certifications in this particular type
of expertise in this Quant and uh they
they were able to learn about that in
advance and have a dialogue with the
employers that enabled that flow and so
the same is going to be true to a much
higher extent potentially because of how
many displaced workers you're going to
have and and what their needs are going
to be is that helpful
and Mr Mayor councelor Vasquez this is
Grant Taylor from the C lab uh you know
in the context of the The Flash
assessment that we performed uh you know
and make sure to note the the name that
we've we've done it in a Flash it's a
you know a quick study that we do to be
able to start the orientation process uh
toward a plan and you know in terms of
uh the flash assessment we're looking at
the areas of potential and so uh we we
certainly need to uh speak with current
employers but we also need to to think
about what are employers that are among
those potential uh what are they looking
for and that you know the C lab has has
preached for a long time that any
community that hopes to recruit jobs has
to focus on the quality of its Workforce
because that's what the site selectors
are really looking for and there's been
a little bit of an adaptation uh in that
there's more and more remote work
happening and and so you've really got
an opportunity to build uh your
Workforce to where there are going to be
employers who want to employ your local
residents uh you know might be an
employer in California and uh is going
to hire somebody in Los crus to perform
a job and that's creating an economic
based job because uh that paycheck is
going to be you know conceivably coming
from California that will be new money
into your
economy so it does come down come down
to your Workforce and the last thing
I'll say is uh you know I've I've really
admired the Los crues area uh for a long
time because of what you've already done
in this regard uh working with uh the
bridge of southern New
Mexico the council this is Davin I might
add to that um in our targeted thinking
in terms of some of those uh Target
industries that we think we should go
after as part of the
recommendations uh remote work for
example and onshoring and I've had some
some very starting conversations with
Tracy Bryan at the bridge regarding this
but I think there is an agreement that
we're going to have to figure out new
skill sets that need to be develop uh
Grant mention remote work I mean that
that is one thing where you may have the
skill sets to do a job but to do
remotely might require another skill set
let me let me give you a perfect example
the when you start hiring someone in the
future the the first question may not be
do you know how to you use word or Excel
it might be do you know how to host a
zoom meeting for example um another
question might be uh are you able to
self-manage self-motivate
self-discipline yourself because you're
working basically you're working alone
so these are new skill sets that need to
be adapted for that Trend when we're
looking at uh onshoring capabilities
companies moving away from Asia to
produce locally
uh automation is going to be key so CNC
um CNC operators is going to be a
critical um area of Workforce that we're
going to need to grow in the area now we
have at the community college already uh
a CNC course we have certifications in
it we just have very few students going
through it at this point in time so if
we can utilize this as an encouragement
to get more people through the program
we are in a better position to then
attract those companies that maybe
making those on Shoring decisions in the
near
future thank you uh thank you Davin Mr
hamr and Mr Taylor um this is Gabe
boscus again city counselor um Davin I
recall you and I had had some
conversations in the past about
especially uh creating like back office
support uh for more the I guess the near
Shoring um operations in Santa Teresa
and
sades and figuring if that was an viable
sector for Los Cruses considering that
we probably weren't going to be the
transportation and Logistics hub for um
you know the assembly and manufacturing
of goods across the border because
that's what Santa Teresa uh
realistically is for right and and
that's um you know that's a role that
they have to play that's specific to the
industrial park uh because they're so
close but perhaps Los cruus could help
with the import export paperwork right
perhaps we can actually help with the
marketing uh
uh development of some of the services
that local companies or or other
International companies are offering to
clients um and you know I was thinking
about okay well what kind of what kind
of SPEC Building should we be looking at
what kind of property should the city
perhaps be looking to lease that would
be um attractive to those types of
Industries or employers um what type of
incentives could we offer to certain
businesses in a certain industry uh that
are more likely to relocate here than
others if we were to create create some
type of policy um whether it's you know
uh through Lita or you know local Lita
or even other um opportunities for us to
um to be able to attract those employers
and so I think you know with these with
this analysis and with with further work
on a a local response I would love to
see you know those types of
recommendations come to council perhaps
via our Economic Development Department
um right in that partnership with uh
with mavita and with cl and others um of
of you know what are those policy and
budget solutions that the city can be uh
enacting in the next couple of months to
a year um or even couple of years
because I know this recovery is going to
take a while um that both uses our you
know our buying power our financial
stability um as a local government um uh
so that we're not so that we we're kind
of um setting that playing field right
um and so I I think that's one of the
things I'd love to see out of an
analysis like this or a longer term
relationship um in terms of thinking
with with our local community and our
consultants and partners about uh how we
come out of this and so um do you have
any thoughts on that Davin in terms of
you know what this what this what the
end product of this analysis looks like
or or suggestions on how we could
actually use the data that is provided
through this analysis and maybe even a
work for scap
analysis hey counselor this is Davin and
look your SP your spot on um if there's
any if there's any time where it creates
an opportunity to really dig deep and
dive deep into into how we have our
Industries recover our multitude of
Industries or how do we replace lost
jobs um and and putting together a
toolbox the correct toolbox of what's
going to help get us there quicker
rather than later Now's the Time be
discussing this um you know if if you
are open to it I my recommendation would
be is to begin these conversations with
the economic development department uh
bring in the bridge uh Mita let's have
some discussions that we can bring back
to you in terms of a work session uh to
discuss really across all of these um
theaters as Paul and Grant referred to
what what are the wish lists what are
the elements that really make sense and
which really work within a budget sense
you know I can tell you from what I've
talked what we've talked about with some
of the remote work we we are right now
in the process of of putting together a
white paper that will have suggestions
on Market strategies and the factors of
production and the and what's needed to
overcome those factors of production uh
which we hope to present to you in the
near future um if you're looking at the
manufacturing and onshoring I think some
of the factors of production that we've
mentioned in the past Dex Bas as an
example there they still exist today um
it's just there's more of a magnifying
lens on them if we want to get in front
of this opportunity before other states
and be more competitive against those
other
states thank you Davin and this is
Council vasus again for the record um I
think those are those are all my
questions for now uh I will just just
kind of wrap up my comments by saying
yeah I think having a
um the ability to wrap our my head
around what a tangible budget and policy
package looks like that helps us with
Local Economic recovery um that includes
incentives to build local wealth would
be something that I think we should
support and we're in a very lucky
position I I shouldn't say lucky I
should say privileged uh position in the
city that our financial stability um
compared to other cities is is really uh
un solid footing um thanks to some
really good decisions by by other my
former colleagues on the city council
and our staff uh and mayor and so I
think we have an opportunity to invest
dollars right rather than I think Santa
Fe is looking at a hundred million
budget shortfall for next year um while
we we have the ability to to sit back on
a healthy reserve and a tore fund um but
so far we've been using just to
alleviate the impact uh immediate impact
of of of loss of income and and increase
in Social Services for folks but H how
could we be using um that for actual
proactive economic Local Economic
Development efforts um is something that
I'm really interested in so uh thank you
deavin um thank you uh Grant it's good
to see you in person I think I've seen
you on Twitter um quite a bit
and and Mr hamr thank you thank you as
well thank you
mayor okay uh councelor beta
stui
thank you mayor um thank you everyone
for joining us today and for that uh
in-depth presentation and thank you to
our economic uh Development Department
as well for their work um I had a couple
questions regarding um kind of the
mapping that you did for this um it
looks like uh through the graphs that
you have um this uh CO as a singular
event um but we know that it's going to
be a long-term issue and we're going to
have you will most likely see um kind of
resurgence of perhaps uh restrictions
that there's very real possibilities of
seeing those types of deals in the fall
did we do any graphs or mapping um using
that type of modeling knowing that this
is not a a finished event
yet thank you
counselor I think answer
is a lot of lot of feedback I don't know
if someone doesn't have their their mic
off okay and I'm sorry Paul go ahead and
state your name again please yeah Paul
Hamrick with cab thank you uh the yeah
the the answer I believe is that we we
asked the group like we I think that the
the
conversation uh was very was very long
very in depth about what the Dynamics
are working yes it came up several times
what if there's a a kind of a relapse if
you will or or frankly just a protract
Ed uh uh period after this or or two
troughs as we as we call them uh there
were there were those conversations the
the the product that we needed to
produce in the long run was what we
thought and what everybody could agree
on was the scenario to conceive of as
likely today um and and the best guess
at what could happen because again it's
a tremendously Dynamic situation uh and
uh conditions have changed every day I
can't speak for sure that this group
would have come to the same conclusions
that they did two weeks ago today uh
however we tried to get this to be as
resilient as we could and to apply to as
many different scenarios as we could the
the main takeaway was the to to quantify
that that trough that how low we would
actually get and I think that the the
issue at hand is whether whether we have
another period of this or not um that uh
that that uh figure of I think it uh
correct me if I'm wrong but 20,000 jobs
lost directly to covid uh that that is
that is the you know
Quantified
um deep point that that the economy is
likely to suffer uh so I I think that it
would be a a great exercise to
try and you know adapt the model to to
do a second scenario like this uh but uh
yeah for this Purp it it really is the
most the one that the group considered
to be the most likely outcome or most
likely one that that they would feel
comfortable starting to plan
around not not ultimately resilient not
ultimately perfectly accurate as no
economic study really can be but it it
is the the the one worthy of planning
according to the group we
assembled excuse me con beta sty before
I looks like Dr Martinez has her hand up
if I may let her say a comment or two
before you your next question Dr
Martinez thank you mayor this is chel
Martinez economic development director
um thank you all for the comprehensive
discussion here related to Economic
Development and for the future of our
community one area that I want to uh
make sure that we that we highlight is
that the city economic development that
you created about four years ago is a
very robust team of people who are
passionate to make a difference
difference in our community um the
comprehensive plan as as Sherry would
attest to that um we have been very
involved in in the comprehensive plan
from the starting point of creating that
framework of future guide um plans and
and priorities and now we are at the
stage of incorporating that into our
strategic plan and Workforce Development
is a key component to that and um a key
element is for us to remember remember
that before this current situation we
were already struggling uh for the
unskilled workers that were were not
accessing the resources and so in
addition to that we need to make sure
that um we don't forget about the the
ones that were already hurting and so
this morning we had a a very um
interesting conversation uh with the
workforce Talent collaborative and we
are having a meeting later on this week
to talk about how we can pursue the
economic development Administration
carees act funding to craft something
related to Workforce and not just uh
Workforce that um that focuses on the
the jobs loss which is important but
also on the jobs that um already were
not there for for people in this
community and so we want to make sure
that this is a regional approach um we
we are reaching out to the county as
well because we know that this is a not
just unique to the city of Las Cruses
but if everybody uh is better off um our
region will be better off um also
another interesting component is that
Las cruus because of the dependency in
in local uh in government uh funding
we're GNA see a lacked effect as we saw
it in the Great Recession and so even
though we haven't seen the if the
negative effect and the impact right now
we are seeing that we we are I'm pretty
sure the effects are going to take place
in 12 months from now 24 months from now
which was the case uh in 2008 the na
nation was hurting in 2008 and Las cruus
reached its PE uh unemployment in 2010
and so we need to be prepared for that
as well and we need to continue to work
with uh Workforce agencies we need to
continue to work with the chambers we
need to continue to work with non
for-profit organizations as well as New
Mexico State University and the ACC and
so a comprehensive approach is
needed this this is an unfortunate
moment in history because everybody
who's hurting and who's being uh
negatively impacted however it can be an
opportunity for all of us to pause and
make sure that we are doing things
differently to have different results
and so thank you mayor um we will
continue to make sure that we understand
the need and and that we act upon it as
quick as
possible thank you Dr Martinez uh thank
you councelor B stvi please continue
thank you uh for the record I'm Tessa
bet sty uh thank you Dr Martinez for
those comments I had some notations as
well uh as we uh were listening to this
about um as we start to rely more on
technology and even these work from home
uh jobs uh it would be very hard for
some of um our constituents uh to be
able to have these resources to be the
able to do these types of jobs just even
due to um internet access uh technology
itself computers uh some things that it
may seem basic in some households but
sometimes they are hard to attain
especially if you um do have job
insecurity to begin with and so I'm glad
that we are looking at these types of
items and starting to address them so
thank you very much Dr Martinez um I'm
going to go back to questions for uh the
gentleman from
CX um we had just talked about uh
factoring in uh basically Resurgence of
covid um and we had said that we didn't
factor in the any sort of um uh
lockdowns again or if we have any sort
of restrictions um when you did your uh
groups and did you have anyone a medical
profession Prof um epidemiologist on uh
these types of uh committees that you
had for these meetings did you include
anybody from that to get in that
perspective this is Paul Hammer again uh
thank you for that question yeah I uh we
had uh people that were were intimate
with the hospitals and their latest
conditions but I cannot say that we had
a medical professional and when you say
it that sounds like a piece that would
would have would have uh would have
really rounded this off quite well but
um yeah to to consult on that level
that's that's something that I'm not I
think we we could probably have uh uh
included somebody more in close to it
but that wasn't it wasn't that there
wasn't somebody who had a sense of what
was what was the latest but nobody who's
currently in treatment or or in a you
know capacity is you know looking at
pandemics from a scientific stat uh
status most just people that knew what
those people are saying if that makes
sense but yeah that's that's a good
observation I I yeah I guess now I'm I'm
thinking about uh how to get that
analysis thank you those people Collide
those people together you um for the
record Tessa a sty um yes uh Hospital
Administration their focus in Gears is
going to be you know uh a little bit
different that is more of that economic
side side um you know employers
employees um but having that science
side um and seeing those Trends and
that's where maybe um it would have come
up that it is I mean I will be very
surprised if we do not have at least
we're going to see jumps um this winter
again um with this pandemic especially
um I mean they noticed that we're even
30,000 um vaccine short for kids already
um due to the changes and because of
that
um that's one of those High ones is
whooping cough and that will not
interact very well when we see other
respiratory issues so um it's kind of
just a chain effect when you have all
those different types of um illnesses
and in the winter so I think we're going
to see another event um this fall and
winter in regards um to have we have to
handle Co um and and so I just think
that's something that's really important
and as we make these decisions that we
need to be including um that type of
scientific Factor um to be able to make
those well-rounded decisions um so thank
you um one of the other questions I had
was about the attrition rates and um I
think you guys call them Industries what
you guys call them theaters um the
natural attrition that we usually see is
that different than what's happening
when you add covid as an
element uh this is Paul Hammer the the
best answer is no this this is this
basically ation that is not related to
crisis conditions at all uh I think if
you were to ask the same players six
months ago they would have AR that
that's kind of what we tried to
condition as that question uh what is
kind of the annual turnover of economic
base employment that that needs to be
made up each year and um so yeah over a
five-year period that that's kind of an
objective threshold that whatever the
metabolic rate of of loss and gain that
that's accounted for uh and uh also the
the other the other thing to note about
that is that at that rate there's a
certain expectation to to be able to
make a net gain after the crisis effects
have been suffered there will be a
lingering effect into the viability of
job status quo job creation event or job
creation efforts and so that that that
St that standard attrition or natural
attrition is going to remain the same
but the production might be constricted
compared to what it was before so where
before you were able to make net gains
now you might not be able
to but yeah short answer is it is it is
trying to completely isolate the covid
attrition say that everything stayed
normal what would be the attrition
rate thank you um and for the record
Tessa V duie this I think the word that
comes to mind during this event is
adaptation um and you all have mentioned
it before but um you know owning a
business is a risk just in on itself you
never know um you can plan and you can
prep but there are always going to be
factors that you might not anticipate
and we sure got a really big one right
now um with this uh with the pandemic
you know I don't think anybody had that
in their business plans of something to
prepare for um but with that in mind I
think we've been able to see how some
places um have adapted um Mr Lopez uh
talked much about you know those work
from homes uh the Zillow Twitter um that
have changed that and we are seeing even
some local adaptations to um businesses
that once um one that comes to mind that
catered to um doing uh jerseys for uh
Sports obviously that's not going on now
so they've changed it to now they are
crafting face masks so some places have
adapted very well and how can we assist
um if it's small adaptations um a mayor
has mentioned before um for restaurants
if they need a drive-thru item instead
of just having uh sign in you know and
so I think that we have to look at that
and see what happens because um I want
this uh event to end as soon as possible
but it's going to be with us for a while
at least 18 months possibly longer there
is no guarantee and so we have to be
very I think adaptive um and so I really
do appreciate it um all the work that
you've done but um like I said the one
biggest factor that I would I think that
we need to look at is um making sure
that we have that scientific perspective
um when we're looking at this and
knowing that this is not a singular
event that we're going to be seeing it
again and we're going to have to make
those adaptations again this fall but
thank
you thank you councelor uh councelor
sword thank you Mr
Mayor uh this is City councelor Gil
sword um I've been listening intenti to
to uh the conversation so far um and of
course the presentation that was given
um I uh appreciate a lot it's uh a lot
of good information I understood it for
the most part almost all of it in fact
and um I appreciate the the hard work
that was put in by everybody
that was on the committee and then the
and the the lab and and and Meda and so
forth uh I just wanted to point out a
couple of things that I'm observing to
start with um ever since we've had an
economic
development um committee and Department
in the city of Las Cruses uh going back
10 11 years ago um we've always been
concentrating on economic based jobs and
economic based businesses uh that's why
we picked out two of our uh centers of
to focus our efforts on the west Meson
industrial park and the
airport and um so this is something that
is not new to us here um and of course I
agree with that we should continue to do
that uh as the report that you gave
pointed out um but I want to add to it
and I think you mentioned in the report
that this is opportunities for new
business to uh to start up um when uh
several businesses fold um there's
opportunities for new businesses to
start too and so that's that's something
that's uh will be
helpful um as you were going through the
pro presentation especially at the end
talking about the
strategies um and the list I saw there I
was thinking well which ones are we
talking about here in the City and which
ones maybe are the state and Davin you
mentioned that the uh jtip for example
and and others that the state will do so
I understand it's a collaborative effort
by both the state and the local
governments in this in New
Mexico um so that was good that that was
all pointed
out um and we've mentioned this before
uh and uh I don't remember what our
budget shows but um I'll say it again we
haven't increased the support to mavita
from the city for 10 11 12 years and um
we need to do that I agree with the
report and that our support for mavita
needs to increase uh significantly in
fact and then I would like to challenge
the the the uh County to match us and
see if they can't uh do that uh there
was one area that I was a little little
wondering about out um in one of
your what did you call them again the
sectors or the areas that uh you're
you're measuring here um there was a
construction uh graph a part of a graph
that construction and it had the the
temporary loss and a permanent loss and
I was surprised to see the permanent
loss was so much can one of you Paul or
or or um uh uh Grant possibly explain
why construction will be such a
permanent loss such large percentage
anyway a permanent loss in
construction this is Paul hamri I I can
take a a stab of that Rec calling the
conversation we might have a
feed oh dear Gil can you mute
your Paul can you do me a favor can you
put up that slide that shows a temporary
versus permanent losses please
certainly then the coun can see what
councelor St is talking about all
right that will
be this slide
here oops I seem to be ahead of myself
sorry that was correct ah there we
are um yeah the yeah the construction
probably did have one of the lower rates
of of of
recovery um thinking about the
conversation uh the the group's
consensus was that while the losses
suffered in in uh in construction
weren't necessarily A I think as huge a
proportion yeah it looked like they
talked about roughly even half of the
construction industry and that it
wouldn't be coming back
easily um I would have to return to the
recording to get the exact transcript
and I can certainly Supply the comments
that were made to satisfy that Curiosity
but uh top of my head
um I think that the the idea was that uh
a lot of the market for the
construction uh uh industry was going to
be uh suspended or would they wouldn't
be looking for um the for new buildings
and and uh new prospects and I think I
think that uh there was possibly some
detail
about uh about some one of the
particular participants knowledge of
that industry that was confounding so I
would like to to to get that U detail to
you if at all possible to satisfy that
question unfortunately I can't give you
the detail I'd like off the top of my
head and
councelor Mr Mayor councelor sorg Grant
Taylor from the CE lab uh one of the
things that I recall is one that
residential construction was uh was
surprisingly uh still robust when uh
continuing uh one of the things that was
talked about was was really about the
concerns of uh government pullback on uh
Capital outlay um that in in the fear of
there being uh some some pullback from
lower gross receipts taxes as well as
the general fund for the State uh that
that there would be um you know
considerable losses that would be very
hard to come back within the five-year
time
span okay thank you very much this is
councilor s again um also wanted to
comment on on the workforce and the Gap
analysis uh for the rest of the council
um I'm on the State Board uh for
Workforce Development and um so when it
comes to those kind of things uh you're
welcome to come to me uh for information
and and another thing too Tracy Bren was
mentioned uh from the the um uh High
School there uh on the University uh she
is the chairman of that board too so we
have excellent representation right here
in Las
Cruses
um oh and then yeah part of the part of
the Gap analysis I was going to mention
is that uh it's where we take uh
businesses employers name namely um and
connect them with the workforce itself
what do the businesses need for what
kind of workers so the businesses are
are and and the employers are part of
the equation here we have to con uh work
with them to get what they need that's
so that's part of the Gap analysis um
here's a question that probably doesn't
have anything to do with
your your
uh work here but I gotta ask it because
it's really bugging me for a long time
as you know we the the federal govern
put a huge amount of money into the
people's hands all kinds of people's
hands
fact I dare say it's most people's hands
um
and people have gone out and they're not
spending money on
non-essential uh things like you know
they aren't spending money at the
restaurants to speak of and it just says
one yet you see that they're going to be
buying more groceries uh baking more
bread and um uh uh doing things that
they wouldn't have done before for
example hardware
stores but my my question is this seems
to me that there's still a certain
amount of
money the money hasn't really
disappeared has it there's still money
out
there uh in people's
pockets um probably a lot in the uh uh
food
chain um and other places uh but have we
lost any money in the economy or have
haven't we actually gained a lot of
money in the economy Mr hamr maybe could
answer that certainly Paul Hamrick here
from CB uh that is yeah it's a
fascinating question and one that did
get entertained at various levels I
think that people wanted to circle
circle around the stimulus the effect it
had and one of the main things it did
kind of come down to is that for the
effect on businesses practically
speaking a business uh if if an employer
had to uh do a temporary
layoff uh those workers are going to be
on Unemployment uh or at least a good
portion of them might be and as such
might be disincentivized to return to
work and that that will be a factor
production gap for those employers to
kick back off again so that's on the
that's on yes it's the money side
they're they are in possession of money
it's not necessarily for those people a
loss of wealth for others it is I I do
know a few people personally that have
found themselves unable to access those
stimulus benefits for whatever reason um
but uh I guess on the on the other side
the money side uh it's about a
suspension of the economy more than it
is a a a fundamental loss and the longer
you suspend the
economy uh I I like to talk about it
like people talk about Co people that
had pre-existing conditions are far more
subject people that have immune
disorders are far more subject
businesses that don't have a succession
plan or that don't have a lot in
reserves or whose Market was unsteady to
begin with those are going to you call
those cor comorbidity with this market
closed down those will be permanently
lost jobs and permanently lost income
depending on what industry they're in uh
so that that's one way to look at the
effect of this in kind of indefinite
suspension of the economy uh it it over
time will result in loss but but you're
right in that if uh if if they can all
remain intact and all the benefits get
passed down the way that they are needed
it could it could look like stimulus too
well this is coun Sor again could you
say that maybe the money in our economy
has been
redistributed uh to some getting more
and and of course SE several getting
less uh this is Paul Hammer that's
difficult to say um but I would say that
uh you definitely have so I don't want
to get too isolated like I think of
looking at the big picture data is the
only way to truly learn about something
but in an isolated instance uh the
people that I know that had the most
difficult time receiving any stimulus
are some of the people that are the
worst off I see that uh that they they
don't and they're not fluent in how to
navigate the systems like say say you're
barely struggling to keep your business
afloat and now you have to figure out
how to apply for a PPP loan
yeah might not have even heard of it
because you're not in those echelons
that would would be informed of that uh
Grant I see your unmuted do you have
something to to add to that no I think
that was really well said you know we
are we don't necessarily claim to be
economists uh we certainly try to help
economic developers and that's you know
at least in my uh past experience as
economic development rather than being
an economist uh so we have not studied
this independently uh what we have seen
is what many of you have in the news
that many people who have received
stimulus have had to direct that um
toward their essential living toward
their rent um you know if they're
already hand to mouth they are
continuing to be hand to mouth and
that's where the stimulus is going and
and certainly while we've experienced
the the shutdown of retail businesses
that's not going to reach your retail
businesses um and translating to your
gross receipts taxes um uh you know with
within the last 60 days so I think you
are right in identifying that that is uh
not happening or or that there might be
money suspended uh for a period but it's
for a whole range of issues okay okay
thank you very much uh this is counc
sword signing off to Mr May thank you
thank you counselor Dr Martinez did you
have your hand up again or did you
forget to put it
down okay I believe I for to put it down
no problem okay we have H counselors
benom fles and
Gand thank you mayor and thank you all
so much for the presentation I
definitely wish we would have had more
time you zoomed through a couple things
that I would have love to hear more
about but that's okay I'm happy to reach
out to um to Mr Lopez after this for
more clarification or even our
incredible economic development team um
so I have a couple specific questions
and then maybe more General statements
but um a lot of my my colleagues have
already asked a lot of questions that um
had come up for me as well um I I will
note though that counselor sorg um there
was also a lot of individuals in our
community who did not get the stimulus
check because of immigration status I
would say about 12% probably of the
population of West cruus did not get
help from the stimulus package
um I it's so funny I'll start with my
construction question actually U
piggybacking on counselor sorg
um I also noted that because I thought
it was interesting giving the last
report we got from Community Development
in Las crues where it showed that
actually construction hadn't really
slowed down at all and so um um but it
was helpful to hear you sort of clarify
um capital outlay projects and things
like that
um given sort of the data and what you
presented do you feel like um is this is
is this an industry where you would
recommend that we spend a lot more time
in more investment in moving forward
ensuring that projects do get done um so
sort of what are your thoughts in terms
of um priority place on this particular
industry Mr Mayor
coun just a really quick one of the
things Grant we're having some problems
here with your I don't know what U I
think we got it taken care of okay good
all right can can you state your name
also please sure uh so Mr Mayor
councelor Beno Grant Taylor with the c
lab
uh one of the things that was identified
uh through this process and is um in the
presentation is uh that it would be very
helpful for um the employer program
theater in its in its role to recruit uh
say onshoring manufacturing that th be
uh spec buildings you know basically uh
facilities that are already on the
ground that can be shopped to these
various companies so you know if that's
something that can be generated um
either by streamlining a permit process
or something out at the industrial park
that uh you know will spur some
construction but also dovetail will
dovetail uh with efforts to recruit
those employer economic based uh uh
programs
that's helpful thank you um Mr hamr did
you want to add something I noticed
earlier you had unmuted yourself as
well counselor uh this is Paul hamri uh
no I think Grant what basically said A
variation of what I was thinking I would
say so but yeah that onshoring
opportunities there are there are factor
of production needs in physical
inventory that you could redirect your
construction industry toward so that
that's that's a potential solution that
was do for examination upon the next
phase of this
planning great thank you um Mr Devon you
mentioned this is councelor B you
mentioned
um a consum a consumer survey that had
been done is that something that you're
willing also to share with us is that
part of the report that we'll be
getting counselor this is Davin Lopez um
I thought the first round of survey that
we did we already shared um I thought I
shared that with the city council um we
are in a sec based on the governor's new
orders last week we began a new survey
to determine if there are now new
behavioral changes as a result so as
soon as that should be completed which
we ended on Friday we'll do the analysis
on Monday or Tuesday I'll I will share
that as well as well as the differences
between the remarks of the first survey
and the second survey
great thank you I'm sorry if I missed
that um my inbox currently looks like a
black hole so um my apologies um you
know I really appreciated this is
councelor bomo again I really
appreciated sort of the three um perhaps
policy priorities that you'll be talking
to state legislators about um you talked
about tax policy job training um and
some food production um I would love if
out of this came a similar um sort of
policy recommendation from you all at
the city level I think um those two
those two recommendations can look
certainly really differently so I would
love to see I would love to see that is
that something that you can provide or
some or already are thinking about
providing in the
report counselor if um I'm not sure if
you were directing this is Davin I'm not
sure if you were directing that question
towards me um so so what I would like to
get to is not is in terms of um a white
paper on remote work for example where
we are listing strategies and what's
needed in those strategies whether it be
the state level or suggestions at the
local level um and whether those be in
whether those suggestions look like an
incentive uh or whether it looks like
some kind of other types of anciliary
support those are recommendations we'
like to be we'd like to give as well um
when we talk about uh not be as as broad
a white paper as remote work because
remote work will be a completely new
kind of strategy but when we look at
some of the other things like I
mentioned um excuse me my notes on
onshoring and food security uh the
intent is to give some recommendations
into those areas as well based on what
the state would allow a local community
to do as well right right great thank
you um and then speaking of um you know
I really appreciated the sort of Mr
Lopez what you brought out about um the
reskilling right the Workforce
Development the workforce Gap um I'm
really curious about um and interested
in quickly pursuing something like this
when do you think would be appropriate
to start um some sort of Workforce Gap
analysis honestly it seems like Dr
Martinez you may have already began
thinking about it I really appreciated
what you had to say about um you know
prior to covid-19 who you know who were
those that uh in our community that were
um maybe had some chronic unemployment
or or were seeking um some skills in
order to go into the workforce so um I'm
you know I'm really interested in
pushing this particular conversation
forward so I don't know necessarily who
that question is addressed to but um um
I would definitely like to hear hear
from a couple of you about the timeline
on this and and when we we should really
start thinking about this analysis Gap
Gap
analysis Dr
Martinez U councelor Boma uh thank you
very much for your interest in in that
area and for bringing it back into being
the Forefront um we like I said we are
um internally we have been having
discussions on what that the priorities
are for Workforce specifically but also
with the partners in our community to
make sure that we're um approaching it
in a comprehensive manner one thing that
I think is uh um part of the problem is
that there is no one point of contact uh
that knows all the available resources
neither for the business nor for the job
seeker and so that's that's a very
important component that is missing in
our community
um another one is the the um sharing the
information through the right venues to
get to the right people it's also very
important and so we're looking into how
do we leverage upon the elements that we
already have through donana Community
College through NMSU through Workforce
Solutions and Workforce connections um
and really approaching this as a
systematic change rather than just um
adding programs that are not sustainable
long-term and so we are um having a
discussion later on this week on what um
all of us have seen that are the the
priorities that we need to tackle as as
the barriers to to a systematic change
um so we're we're we're looking into
that and we're looking into also what
does this mean for for trades uh
training for certification for um the
the Workforce Development that does not
require four four year uh degree but
those that are in high demand that are
with high wages um that may be um two
years or or a few months of of training
so we're we're working actively uh with
our partners in the community and and
making sure that we're filling in the
gaps and and ensuring that the alignment
of training is
um it's meeting the business needs and
not just um training that will not be in
high
demand yeah that's wonderful to hear I
would love to certainly see um this
conversation W back in a in another work
session in the future um so that we can
really look at how the city can invest
in a lot of the things that you're
saying and also um councelor bov this is
grela Martinez again um one great venue
again it's uh we just relaunched the
economic development policy Review
Committee and that's that's another
topic that we have in our future
discussion items um which is
Partnerships and um business initiatives
as well as a recommendation from
counselor Sor on how we adapt and
including economic gardening and that is
also part of our priorities with our um
efforts on business retention uh and
expansion programs wonderful thank you
so much um I don't know if anyone from
cab wanted to talk about that or not
that's okay no okay I'll move on
um um let me pick out the questions I
haven't yet been asked um honestly I'll
wrap up with this I think for me um you
know and some of the research I've been
doing regarding economic recovery and
what cities the role of cities in that
um a lot of it is you know has been act
quickly right and so it's incredible to
hear from you all that we are very much
leading this conversation um and I'm
really happy to hear that and to be
having this conversation I will also say
that um just because of my background I
can't help it come to this conversation
with a strong perspective about
workers um and the the fact that
covid-19 has really exposed How Deeply
flawed the workforce has been and how
unprotected workers currently are in
this country um and so to me that's a
really important conversation that we
must also have um as we really think
about how we reimaging a new economy
here in New Mexico and in Las Cruses
right and really start thinking about
what are the industries that we want to
invest in what are the industries that
we should probably separate from like
extractive
resources um you know but I think if if
anyone's been listening to workers in
the last couple months um they there's
really been a greater demand for
protections for higher wages for um for
benefits right that keep themselves and
their families healthy but also
um um with a greater voice in the in the
workforce and so to me that's an
incredibly important conversation that
we must have moving forward and to not
forget that um those are absolutely
things that we should continue fighting
for as we as um as we begin to invest in
this new economy and whatever looks like
to definitely keep workers at the
Forefront to keep um the demands and the
and their needs also um present as we
move forward in making decisions um and
but I'll I'll wrap it up there thank you
Mr Mayor thank you let's see councelor
florus and then mayor protim
Gand thank you Mr Mayor and thank you Mr
Taylor Mr hamr and uh Mr Lopez thank you
so much for for presenting today um and
yes I too noticed that uh construction
wasn't um hadn't been uh affected too
much as far as your charts though or
graphs but um but it's one of the
industries that has uh continued here in
in lasas um I think a lot of it has to
do with uh Home Building um so uh I
think everyone's grateful for that but I
have a very um I have a question before
we go any further this Leman person that
you refer to any relation to the Leman
Brothers I mean it's kind of scary
because we're dealing with an a company
right now that reeks of uh nightmares of
2008 this is h no no relation no
relation how do you spell the name is it
l the same way l h m an but yeah I I
have asked him the same question and he
chuckled about it and no no he's he's
not related to to the Leon brother he
probably would deny it so okay but I'm
glad that
he's but thank you so much for your
presentation I I um I'm so glad that
Davin uh said was part of it who else uh
was in that uh conversation or it was
your C Labs that put it together and
your Think Tank um and where are you
located and who are the members of the
think tank you're because you said
you're not Economist so do you have
economists as part of your uh uh Think
Tank there it seems like you would need
to have uh this is Paul Hamrick I can I
can hopefully help you out there the the
uh a think tank is is mostly of those uh
the people that from our side that were
on this call it was myself Grant here
Mark lman uh and another another person
from our side John Sharp who is uh uh
more oriented around the tech side of of
the data capture um and uh but uh what
we bring is the process and the
facilitation rules and the calculus that
helps people that basically pulls the
out of a thinking group this is this is
where Davin and uh and doctors ptis and
and G Martinez they helped us very they
were very very essential for bringing
the right people to the right situation
and that we carried those people through
this process so the the knowledge came
from local experts and local folks and
that I I I have that full list of
attendees in the in the final report
which we'll be receiving very soon uh
but uh the the uh yeah the composition
was mostly those industry leaders who
who are dealing with the realities of
the covid crisis right now and um and
that the process itself is intended to
uh get them thinking along the same
terminology the same lines focus on the
same outcomes namely full recovery and
uh and then yeah to glean from them the
inside knowledge and and expertise that
populates the findings we did not try to
submit any we actually like that's
inhibitive for us to try to assert and
and posit our own theories uh because
because it starts to muddy the waters
about what's uh you know what is what is
from the community versus not and um so
hopefully that helps you helps clarify
that yeah it does and that's actually
very helpful because uh you actually
took um what we have our sources and uh
and we have Dr Battis and Dr Martinez
who um actually I say this every
opportunity I have we are absolutely
blessed to have them we are very
fortunate um and it's I think it was a
uh I always want to call Gabe Governor
because I'm telling him he should be our
next Governor anyway um
Gabe Vasquez I think uh brought up the
fact that we are doing different things
throughout the city but um what is
interesting is that uh the airport and
the West uh Mesa industrial uh West
Mason Industrial Park area is in the
process of really um really developing
that whole thing that whole area part of
the city and so in in listening to the
presentation today and your graphs and
and uh the input that you had from both
Dr fattis Davin HZ and Dr
Martinez is indicative of the fact that
um that we pretty much are ahead of uh
the game here um despite I mean we
didn't anticipate covid but um or any
disaster like that any pandemic like
that but uh the city has a lot of vision
and um a lot of that has to do with our
mayor who um he's a dollars and cents
guy I me he's better than you know the
Leman brothers were in 2008 so um we're
very fortunate to have uh not only do we
have people who are absolutely brilliant
in their fields but they're Visionaries
and um so uh and thank you so much for
your I just wanted to um to point that
out it it's probably something that came
up in the conversation with them but um
we have that other in other um areas in
our city that we've been planning on for
some quite some time I think it was Dr
Martinez and who mentioned uh the uh
comprehensive plan that we have and and
Sharon Thomas um who's our mayor Pro
Meritus uh was uh definitely empist to
that too so U thank you and I I hope
that uh we continue these conversations
and and thank you Mr Mr Lopez too for
that uh wonderful survey uh that you um
I participated in that and um and I'm
glad that another one's coming out given
the new um the new word from the
governor so thank you all very very much
it's been uh very a very good uh meeting
thank you thank you Mr Mayor thank you
counselor so I see you got your um steak
and lobster lunch in delivered I guess
it sounds like
so yes thank you that's why I put that
pitch in for you
Mr I figured so yeah the dog didn't need
it today okay good mayor
proam thank you mayor um thank you um Mr
Lopez Mr Taylor and U Mr hamr for your
work on this I am so excited to hear the
results of this and looking forward to
the report um I've said this um before
I'll say say it again I'm very proud of
our um city response as it relates to
covid um along with the rest of my
colleagues and colleagues in the past we
um continue to sit very nicely
financially and we've been able to give
you know at least I don't know 1.5
million 1.7 mayor is the numbers guy he
probably has that off the top of his
head to a lot of nonprofits and the
piece of this funding went to the flash
assessment and so I just want to say off
the bat I I've always felt that in order
for us to be successful um with our
economy we need to give um ma more money
I thought we had um had a little more um
going to them this last budget this next
budget cycle and if we haven't we need
to consider that um in terms of of just
more funding to be able to um you know
do the work that needs to to to happen
as it relates um to economic gardening
if you will so
um I'm gonna I'm going to hold up this
book it's 100%
Community I would I would um definitely
encourage you it's a textbook sort of
manual and one of the sectors is on
Workforce
Development um and and um I find it
interesting that we're talking about
food security right and on a macro level
looking at policies you talked about
attrition attrition normal attrition
versus I guess the attrition that's
happening um via covid and one of my
first conversations was with Davin was
about you know what happens it's normal
attrition people are hopefully moving
out of their maybe lower paying jobs
into they're getting trained and maybe
they' graduated from trade school or
whatever into a higher level position um
but I it's hard for me to believe that
that is solely what's happening that we
have um people moving in and out of jobs
um in my mind because of trauma um
adverse childhood experiences and this
has been one of the conversations I've
had with Davin pretty consistently and
food insecurity being one of them so um
as part of adverse childhood experiences
and Trauma so if you don't know it I'm a
social worker licensed I've been working
in this community for 30 years I'm
basically primarily in child welfare and
and health and and some time with the
Department of Health
so
um as you spoke of food security and and
and thinking in the macro LS levels in
terms of policy what is it going to be
like to ensure that our people at a
micro level are dead right the the the
richest um County here agriculturally
and we still our food insecurity is off
the charts and it's especially more so
now with covid and or homelessness or
near homelessness ensuring that people
have housing and such that I think is is
is really important and so I I won't
bore you anymore but I see a lot of
connections the connecting the dotp to
this and um
I want to say that I brought up 100%
Community because we have a resilience
leaders group where Workforce is one of
the pieces Tracy Bryant um is doing a
lot of work around that Mr Taylor you
had indicated and and recognize that
work um I participated in Davin did as
well and I'm hoping that that data got
to you as we move in because I want to
um we did a sort of deeper dive in in in
it at um jiana community no the
Workforce Development um building I
guess we did a we had a various people
coming in regionally you had invited a a
consultant to come in really looking at
sort of next steps um a lot of this I
think would you would find beneficial as
and what I would recommend is having um
a deeper dive of the theaters as you
will I don't know what that costs and
maybe I'll stop there and ask you what
that what that costs and what that will
give us in terms of of um next
steps uh this is Paul um is that a a
question addressed to
me I I think so you're okay so you're
asking us for like a gap analysis and
sort of deeper dive into those theaters
what is that going to consist of I think
you made mention maybe it's like a 4-day
process uh yes okay so there's so there
are two this is Paul hamri there are two
uh uh sort of studies well so one one is
directly focused on carrying this
analysis that we've done uh into like
getting getting into the weeds if you
will with with these with these theaters
uh outlining the program structure that
would need to be in place and getting
really prescriptive about what factors
of production will need to be oriented
around these theaters and how how that
will affect their ability to create or
recover jobs uh so that's the that's the
economic side on the workforce side uh
there's another sort of and I would I
would consider it a bolt-on to that to
that uh economic process which is the
the workforce analysis which is a little
bit more behind the scenes we would we
would want to deliberate with the full
comprehensive group of players and
theaters uh to to develop the economic
analysis whereas the workforce analysis
is going to be more I think in isolated
conversations that then uh sum up into
uh and are concluded by another sort of
a town hall style deliberation uh but uh
more to discuss what was discovered on
survey levels to employers so it's
surveying of the employers surveying and
discussions with the workforce
developers and and Social Work
practitioners like yourself and
everybody who has a piece to play that
apparatus um but uh all of that looking
at the factor of production which is
Workforce we've discovered time and time
again Workforce is the key to job
creation in New Mexico uh more than
anything else there are competitors for
it like Broadband everybody is aware of
the the factor of broadband on on the
economy but Workforce is number one and
um so those are probably uh parallel in
terms of how much time that usually
would take I the way we've seen it in
the past that's uh over the course of a
few months and quite a large number of
meetings I would guess as many is six or
seven uh rather large scale full day
meetings um and uh if we're still on
Zoom then we'd probably have to rethink
the delivery method it might not be full
days full days on Zoomer nobody's
favorite uh so uh the uh yeah the uh the
expectation is is that uh yeah we would
be open to that conversation SC scoping
and scaling whatever is comes next uh um
we're we are more than happy and willing
to
to scale it to to the needs that you
guys have identified as as what
you're uh looking to
do and Mr Mayor councelor gond uh this
is Grant Taylor with the c lab uh in a
close second in terms of our the the
people we think are our heroes uh after
economic developers it's social workers
and case workers we we are trying to
figure out uh how we can involve more
social workers and case workers into uh
so much of what ails us it's it's not
just uh family economies we know that uh
many people in the workplace if they had
a case worker they would be more
successful in their job retention
Building Wealth uh we know the same
thing is true with higher education that
we would have higher completion rate if
we would have people who are helping
individuals get through their education
so uh we really uh commend you and and
certainly see the tie in with uh with
what you do so thanks for
that thank you I I appreciate that I um
mayor peram for excuse me for
interrupting looks like Dr Martinez had
a quick
comment Mr Mayor thank you very much
mayor PRM this is grel De Martinez
Economic Development Department um I
would encourage us to really make sure
that we're leveraging upon the
community's effort that has taking place
in this area uh the bridge of southern
New Mexico and the workforce tent
collaborative has done a lot of this
actually Tracy Bryan is coordinating
with
Bia uh for for the next uh few days a
round table in the manufacturing sector
uh they completed in coordination with
the chamber um a a round table for
Aerospace and they were able to identify
the gaps not just from the job Seekers
perspective Ive but also from the
employers and so I think it would be
very important for us to consider the
work that has been done um another
element to the round table and assessing
the needs from industry um actually the
the round table for healthc care was
happening was scheduled to happen and
they had to be rescheduled because of
the current situation and so that's
that's going to be super important for
us to be cohesive for us to leverage
upon the work that has been done
and also um leverage upon the
Partnerships and making sure that the
local community um members are involved
in these conversations um for
clarification purposes the business
retention and expansion uh Slash
economic gardening that's something that
we are working within our department as
part of our business development program
and that is something that we are
working to continue to prioritize and
expand and and definitely work upon um
having that um close working
relationships with the employers and and
from the job Seekers having that um
close working relationship with uh
Workforce Solutions and Workforce
connections to learn where the gaps are
and how we can continue to connect the
dots thank you Mr Mayor thank you Dr uh
mayor proam thank you Dr Martinez and um
thank you Mr hem and Mr Taylor for that
um I see a lot of of connections from
the behavioral health sector as we move
forward please don't forget uh that
piece of it um as we move forward and
working with the business Community um
one of the things that I think has been
really challenging is um people's
Behavioral Health right mental health as
they move forward the fear the fear
about losing their business Their Fear
about um you know all their money being
put in their life savings in many
instances into these businesses to
include the fear that their employees
are are facing as we start opening up
more and more um I think anxiety
depression those things are going to be
running pretty rampant and I think we
have an opportunity here to continue to
be in the Forefront of re-exam reimaging
sort of what our Workforce is going to
look like and how cool it would be to
have a behavioral piece to this um
absolutely that people have access to
healthcare and not just any healthare
but quality healthare to include
Behavioral Health so um Dr martinus I
just want to make mention that there is
a behavioral health local
collaborative that has been meeting um
for some time um Jolene Martinez through
families and youth it's a Clinical
Director and they've been talking about
Workforce so in that area we're
challenged we're challenged we don't
have enough of of folks trained folks um
and they're working with Samsung and
other in um groups to build up that
Workforce and so there's a lot of work
happening currently so I would encourage
you to reach out not it's not I know
it's not municipality's usual suspect
right it's is sort of a bit different
but don't forget that because if you
think you had challenges before with
Workforce and keeping people employed
we're going to be very CH very much more
challenged as Co continues and maybe of
research of Co in um the later the late
fall and early winter months and so um I
I I do want um to I made some notes um
when you talked about um
rebuilding reskilling employees I think
it's important that we also res skill or
rebuild our employers what I've heard is
that there is a lot of f u businesses
struggling to re to Pivot pivot hard in
terms of e-commerce and different things
and I know Arrowhead and others have
given um I don't know they've given
opportunities um funding wise but at
least more tangible resources like
offering how do you move into
Ecommerce um and they they probably had
a laundry list of businesses that wanted
to but couldn't adapt quickly enough so
I I think being able to do that um um
with
businesses um is is an important is is
important and I really want us to be in
the Forefront of that in terms of
assisting um businesses or or partnering
with Arrowhead and Dr Martinez I know
you do um partner with them um but to me
this is not only are we um talking about
reskilling employees but I think need to
help businesses res skill right or pivot
into what I think um i' I Heard on on on
a particular News Channel um about about
um artificial intelligence and it's just
pushing us over right quicker much more
quick quicker than we had anticipated in
terms of AI and what that brings and so
I think that always has to be a um on in
the Forefront of our conversation
something that people have not really
wanted to have um conversations about
right reimagining what life would look
like with artificial intelligence right
it's here it's to stay and not only that
as Davin pointed out um looking at our
commercial buildings that's sort of very
different now it's going to look very
different in terms of of the kind of uh
commercial building
that that we're in need of or or have so
many right because people are challenged
to get in there um and so I wanted to to
say that
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um um the other thing that I'm I'm super
concerned about is our Broadband
capability um I think we're very
challenged and especially if we're going
to have people working from home um I I
I like for us to give some some
direction in terms of what is the best
um way to attack that piece in terms of
broadband because we're we're we're
struggling we're going to continue to
struggle um especially when there might
be a chance that our kids will need to
do distant learning um a second time
around as they um are challenged um in
August do you have any insights at this
point in terms of broadband
Tim yeah I was going to I was going to
actually after everyone was was done
talking I was going to ask Davin if we
could uh have a a meeting with Council
and and Mita to highlight three areas
and one of them was uh broadband
internet uh you know e-commerce and what
we can do to have that super high-speed
uh internet the other one is food
security and sustainability earlier I
don't know if you heard him talk about
the USDA and the Beef Processing and
then the third one would be um
feelings about that Asia is no longer an
ideal place and how we can capitalize on
that so do you think we can wait until
we have that work session to to talk
about that I mean unless he has
something right off the top of his head
I'd love to hear if he has something on
top of uh at the top of his head
sure coun sir mayor Pro Mrs Davin Lopez
um I will say that in our discussions
with the association of Commerce and
Industry and with with legislators to
date when we talk about the different
um uh industry opportunities that might
make themselves available remote work in
the gig economy has come up a number of
times and as part of the committee the
policy committee uh the need for more
funding of broadband has come up in the
conversation as well now we are going
through ACI to make recommendations to
legislator to bring up different
policies during this legislative session
uh expanding funding for Broadband is
one of those at the state level uh again
the question becomes during the special
session if it can be put on the
governor's call or if it's considered
Germain by the committee of committees
for the special session if it's not one
of those two then the conversation will
have to go to um go to the full session
in in
2021 um however I guess it it does bring
up the opportunity and I completely
agree with you um not only from a remote
work standpoint but uh what was brought
up with some of our high-tech businesses
like Ganny me games uh Jerry koska was
on the uh on this Zoom meeting with us
um for his industry and to grow it as
well and to attract more individuals to
uh with the talent sets to want to come
here and begin businesses in that
industry we're going to need it so I
don't think we've talked about what can
be done at the local level and I'm not
sure 100% what could be done at the
local level but I think we need to bring
that into the conversation in addition
to what's happening at the state
side thank you Devon I appreciate that I
I just I just want you to know that you
you have willing participants here to
have those conversations es um we and we
need to um you know again we offered
quite a bit of funding to the Los cruus
public scho schools to ensure that our
kids had that cap ability right with
hotspots and tablets and different
things and I I think again you have the
willing participant here and and and I
think this Council which is excellent in
forecasting and visioning what we see
Las cres to be so um with that mayor um
thank you so much um um I
appreciate um this this discussion and I
look forward to seeing um the final
report
okay thank you mayor PM Dr Martinez did
you have another question or did you
forget to put your hand
down mayor no I have another comment um
on on what uh mayor pen mentioned about
how we can help businesses pivot quickly
uh we are working with Arrowhead Center
to uh figure out a way to have a
business accelerator um that they
launched uh for the state as as a whole
they had an incredible demand uh number
of applications 43 from Las Cruses and
they were only able to admit three of
them so we're working with them to have
a a specific um business accelerator for
Las Cruses businesses and make sure that
the businesses have the tools and the
knowledge that they can uh utilize to
shift their markets and to expand into a
an e-commerce uh approach rather than uh
face Toof face so we're working on on
that as well and and we are hoping to
have um a memorandum of understanding
with with NMSU to to launch that work
good that sounds good maybe that'll be
part of the work session that we'll have
you and then also Davin for him to solve
those three
problems we talked
about okay well again um Paul and Grant
thank you very much for your
presentation um excellent and Davin
thank you for for suggesting this as
well U oh also mayor proam I think we
did we do have it on the future agenda
for increased funding for Mita I think
it's still in in staff's hands and and
legals and so it'll be forthcoming so I
appreciate the comments on
that okay well again thank you very much
and now we're going to move on to um the
next item which is 1.2 item 1.2 which is
implementing Elevate
lusus uh we have Mr Larry Nichols and Mr
David alahan who will be the
presenters good afternoon mayor and
Council Larry Nicholas Community
Development uh we will be having a
presentation today regarding the Elevate
Los cruus comprehensive plan that uh you
have recently adopted and we're at that
stage now where we're working with uh
Department directors City staff and of
course with the city council to bring
that uh program to uh to use uh we just
been hearing quite a bit about Economic
Development and the uh Elevate Los crues
is a very uh important part of that of
that um The Economic Development
Department did participate with the
Community Development Department and
developing the the comprehensive plan um
with that um with that introduction I
I'll ask the uh City staff to sh J B and
Mark Miller to make the presentation
thank
you thank you
Larry good afternoon mayor city council
uh City councilors I hope you can hear
me all right yes okay this is Shan bnet
a senior planner with Community
Development and I will just do a quick
screen share with you all please let me
know if you
see um the
presentation yes
yes
okay
so just a quick uh recap of what you all
have experienced uh earlier this year
the city's comprehensive plan was
adopted on February 18th of 2020 and
with that plan known as Elevate losw
crues uh you essentially established a
city-wide Vision a set of goals and a
set of policies for the city the intent
of the comprehensive plan or Elevate
loss crues is to guide growth and
development in the city and it is to be
implemented through strategic actions
and Investments that are outlined in the
document
itself so this graphic just highlights
the relationship of elevate Los crues um
as an overarching comprehensive plan uh
to other City policies or plans um and
and ultimately to implementation tools
so today we will talk about each of
these tools uh during our
presentation to accomplish the ambitious
goals of elevate our entire organization
needs to function as a high performing
team uh we need to perform with Harmony
um between implementers at all
levels so the first roles and
responsibilities that are highlighted on
this slide um are for City staff so City
staff is uh is asked to implement the
Elevate loss crues work program uh what
staff does is also develop departmental
strategic business plans those are
individual operating plans for
departments uh
staff also works on preparing the budget
and the capital Improvement
plan we also have a very critical role
played by the Planning and Zoning
commission who will in essence be the
recommending body to the city council
and they will really uh View and forward
all annual reports and land use
decisions that that will come to city
council um at some point
City Council of course plays a critical
role in implementation because you are
the policy makers uh you have control of
capital Investments and you appoint
boards and commissions and of course
provide strategic planning for the
city so one of the key requirements for
the comprehensive plan right from the
beginning when we scoped out the project
was to have a robust implementation
program this is to help transition
between policy to on the ground
implementation which is something most
plans struggle with the main component
of the implementation program is the
Elevate law curses work program um and
since you all have copies of the
comprehensive plan um I will just um
assume that you've looked at it and you
realize that they've been organized
around certain themes and topics and
there's a breakdown from goals to
policies to
actions
okay so and there are several agencies
or responsible parties that are
identified in this particular work
program in the Elevate document and they
also talk about time frames so today our
presentation focuses on the overall
process of implementation and the major
components that can be set into motion
now which is why I'd like to bring your
attention to the short-term work program
this is a list of actions that can be
started in the next one to three years
through modifications in operations or
procedures or the
like and I don't really expect you all
to see this but it's just a a glimpse of
what it looks like in the plans that you
all have um as you can see there's a
breakdown of the actions what type it is
who's the coordinating agency who are
the partnering agencies um and the time
frame for
implementation so the short-term work
program um is a condensed version of it
uh what it is is just the few actions in
the full work program that were
extracted and
prioritized uh through yourselves as
city council through the Planning and
Zoning commission um especially in their
role at that time as the comprehensive
plan of advisory committee uh which was
an adoc committee whose role ended with
adoption of elevate Los
crues so there are several actions uh
and and the reason why they're uh called
short-term is really because most of
them are already ongoing actions uh with
some of them being very easily attacked
or approached in the first one to three
years
so going back to the idea of Harmony and
common goals I think we can all
appreciate that there needs to be a
strong connection among the various
strategic plans
we we need to use the city strategic
plan and the individual Department
strategic business plans to align and
actually further the Elevate Los cruus
work program strategic plans are how we
program and operate um and direction in
these documents needs to be clear and
consistent in order to actually achieve
success with limited
resources um what you see on your screen
is just a couple of examples where there
is alignment between those three
plans so with that um I am going to hand
over to uh Mr David Weir our deputy
director for Community Development and
he is going to talk about
um one of uh the the work program
actions good afternoon mayor and city
council um my three slides show you a
hey David we're getting a lot of um
interference there I don't
know we can have some people oh go ahead
try it again now maybe that was
Shanna okay oh good afternoon mayor and
city council um I have a few slides and
kind of wanted to show um give a
practical example of how implementation
could take place and also give you a
status report of a project that the
community development's working on in
regards to uh implementation of the plan
so on the on this slide here you can see
where the Elevate Los Cruz's work
program one of the first actions that
they want uh done is to update Our Land
Development codes which are zoning
subdivision uh um design standards and
you can also see that it was something
that was identified through Community
Development strategic business plan that
needed to be done um there wasn't a
direct City uh Council and their City
strategic plan reference to it but um I
think we all know that it's very
important once you adopt a a major plan
for the development of the city that one
of the next steps be implementation um
so Johan if you
could go to the next
slide um and this slide just kind of
demonstrates how this all fits together
um under the overall arching goal of
balance growth you have a policy that
talks about how you're going to go
forward with that and in particular uh
the Elevate Los cruus has a future
development M map a future thoroughfare
map and has this concept of developing
uh centers and uh neighborhood types
throughout the community and the way you
achieve that is through your development
codes and so um book two of the city of
Las cuses municipal code is almost
totally develop or totally um dedicated
to how the process that one goes through
of developing land establishing land
uses building neighborhoods extending
utilities and streets uh creating
neighborhoods and investing in
commercial and activity centers
throughout the the city uh book one has
ancillary references to it it has the
areas where you set up the planning uh
organization there the plan zoon
commission the South mosquite overlay
District University District that that
provide guidance to City Council on how
development takes place um they provide
recommendations and other um information
uh to the council to make decisions to
guide growth within the community um
next
slide and so the last thing that that I
wanted to hit in the presentation today
is um the city is in the process of
going forward to update our Our Land
Development codes uh currently there is
a draft uh request for proposals for the
city to hire a consultant we anticipate
this project taking us approximately two
years and uh we have anticipated
dedicating a minimum of $600,000 to it
and what we're looking at is a
comprehensive rewrite um and like I said
one of those is the zoning sign code uh
the zoning Atlas or zoning map uh also
rewriting and updating or plating uh the
extension of utilities and um streets
and the way that we finance that
infrastructure
and one of the really key factors is the
standards the city has um as you're all
aware we've had several plans adopted um
over the last few years whether they be
Corridor or blueprints or active
Transportation those all have
recommendations on how we'd like to see
the community um develop in the future
and make it a have a high quality of
life for all the residents and
businesses in the community and this is
really uh where that the creation of
those areas hits the road how we're
going to handle drainage um how the
environment is going to be treated and
again how the utility and streets are um
brought forward so uh wanted to kind of
show you how this would fall out of
elevate Los cruus um what steps are
being taken to implement it and then the
work that's going into it and what's
anticipated for that presentation um
next I believe you're going to talk
about the city strategic plan and how
that aligns with Elevate Los
crues
thanks
Dave good afternoon mayor and Council
I'm Amber vaugh I'm the performance
manager uh the city strategic plan is
developed by city council to identify
priorities uh this plan is generally a
three to fiveyear plan uh currently we
are in year three of our Five-Year Plan
uh this plan should be reviewed
periodically to identify our changing
priorities a right now the city is
working on a procurement for a
consultant to help the city review the
plan at this review and update will give
us the opportunity to align the state
city strategic plan with Elevate loss
cruises next slide
please uh on April 20th of this year
city council approved the purchase of
the performance software opengov uh we
are working on a summer of 2020
implementation for the performance
module uh this software will link
resources to Performance it'll allow for
realtime reporting on the performance
indicators from Elevate and the
performance measures from the Department
strategic business plans and the city
strategic plan as well as provide a
transparency portal for the city council
City management and the
community next slide
please and here I just wanted to show a
an example of Bernal Leo County's
performance measures and how their
transparency portal shows these you're
welcome to go to their website they have
a great uh portal where you can look at
all of their
information I'll hand it back over to
Community
Development thanks
Amber Shan B again
so we go through an intensive process um
of data collection public engagement
analysis and strategic planning for any
plan we develop this is a sylistic
graphic which doesn't demonstrate the
continuous feedback loops within the
main process cycle however the point of
this graphic is to show how the process
is fluid and in order to keep a plan
relevant we need to constantly monitor
evaluate and adapt the evaluation and
Amendment of the plan is something that
is different uh for this particular
comprehensive plan it is intended to um
help uh track which actions and
decisions are moving the needle and
recording consequences so policy makers
and managers have real data to base
decisions on if we've learned anything
with the current covid crisis it is the
need to be resilient and
adaptive so with that um I'd like to
hand over to Mark Miller our planner who
will talk about the ELC performance
indicators
thanks
Mr Mayor uh city council this is Mark
Miller planner and Community
Development so we wanted to give a brief
uh introduction and discussion of the
Elevate Los cruus uh performance
indicators um as Shanna mentioned the
evaluation and monitoring of the uh the
plan and the implementation of the plan
um this the performance indicators and
the performance reporting are are one
aspect
of this this annual reporting that will
be taking place uh that we'll we'll
discuss in more detail uh throughout
this this
presentation uh the performance
indicators uh and Associated measures
are are provided within the adopted plan
uh from page 344 to
348 um there's a little over 90 measures
and the associate performance indicators
listed uh it's important to note
whenever you review these that that the
these were provided as uh by our
Consultants uh half Associates during
the planning process these these were
provided as potential or possible
measures which the city May uh like to
track right uh these these measures are
supposed to uh track the implementation
of the plan uh but more specifically the
the Elevate Los Cruz's work
program um and that that's not to say
that it it the actions in a checkbox yes
or no fashion uh rather these these
should be showing incremental uh changes
uh they should represent you know
snapshots of the broader system uh and
by broader system in this case we're
talking about our overall um community
so these indicators can provide
qualitative um but primarily
quantitative
data um that shows you know incremental
change in the built environment or
results of
various programs or initiatives or
efforts that the city uh takes part in
as part of that implementation um of the
plan the the next point that we wanted
to touch on was the Baseline assessment
work group
um this the when I say Baseline
assessment what we're referring to is
the first year of of this performance
reporting we we're referencing
establishing a baseline so that we can
show that inal change year to year and
so that's the first step in in being
able to report on these performance
indicators uh the the Baseline
assessment work group is an inter
departmental work group uh has key staff
from uh various departments uh taking
part in it and the the main priority for
the work group is to assess the the list
that I that I just referenced within the
the plan um is to assess the various
measures indicators um identify which
ones we would like to report on um
provide alternative measures or or
tweaks or revisions to the measures as
listed to to make them more valuable um
as as metrics or or measures of um
implementation um and then ultimately
the the work group will be um beginning
to collect data and and begin reporting
uh that that's set later this year for
that that Baseline report um another
goal
um piggybacking on on what amber went
over was the open gov platform um we
will be also working on um trying to in
the back end get the the automated
reporting so there's always that um
transparent public facing uh dashboard
available to to the public to City staff
as a tool uh to different boards and
commissions as as well as yourselves uh
city council um so that that'll take
place through the open gu platform um
with that I'll turn it back over to
sh thank you Mark thank
Mark shna Bas again um so Mark just gave
you a quick snapshot of the initial
Baseline reporting uh and now I'm going
to talk to you about the overall
reporting and amendment
process so let's talk about the
synchronization of L
with the city's implementation tools one
of the more immediate ones would be the
city's strategic plan what we are
proposing is the timing of the Baseline
reporting so that it can be used to
inform the city strategic planning
process uh once we have a baseline we
will have a more typical reporting and
Amendment cycle for Elevate law crues uh
for five consecutive fiscal years this
is important to see the um the actual um
Trends and give a long range plan like
this time to actually get implemented
then in the sixth year we would have a
major update or Amendment to the plan uh
it only seems logical that the vision of
the community be once again aligned with
the vision of the city council through a
synchronization of both those planning
documents um there may or may not be a
midpoint uh strategic plan update in
2023 uh that is of course entirely up to
you um and how you all um approach the
strategic planning
process so digging a little deeper into
the typical fiscal year reporting cycle
uh I now want to point out um the
attachment in your packets which is
graphically represented here in this
slide um or on this slide uh the the
goal again is to align implementation
tools and processes so we are not
working against each other but moving
forward in a clear and well-coordinated
manner so in a typical year we would
begin the process of preparing a report
on performance indicators uh work
program progress and any annual
amendments to the
plan that information would be used for
the capital Improvement planning process
which in turn could inform changes to
the Elevate loss crusis
report we would then align the
Department's uh the Department's
strategic business
plans with the budgeting
process
um so the information would be used for
the capital Improvement planning process
which in turn would inform changes to
the report and then those other items
would also coordinate and inform and
mutually inform each other so um we
would just make sure that they were
coordinated with needs assessments and
policy Direction balancing them all with
resource and operations
planning so the report uh or the annual
um Elevate loss crues report would then
go before the Planning and Zoning
commission which would provide feedback
and ultimately forward the report to the
city
council the the adoption of the updated
plan or amendments would go hand inand
with the city's budget and CIP uh
Department strategic business plans and
hopefully be the perfect precursor to
the next update for the city strategic
plan this complex but necessary
orchestration of the various
policymaking and implementation tools
would be the recipe for successful plan
implementation so this slide just shows
the reporting information on the
previous slide uh in a somewhat simpler
form this is a breakdown of what the
Elevate Los crues report would actually
contain uh staff would prepare this but
take it through the Planning and Zoning
commission for their edification and
recommendation next uh David sadu
interim director for Public Works will
provide council with more information
about
the um and
how evolve
Implement thank you
Shanna mayor council David S inim Public
Works director and I will be going over
the capital Improvement program and how
that will be implemented and aligned
with Elevate Los crusis as mayor and
councils where we do have a matrix that
already prioritizes projects through our
CIP as we move forward with Elevate loss
cruises we will be looking at other
areas or other categories to prioritize
those being of operational and Community
benefit I will be going over those in
the next couple of slides and also be
providing examples of how they have
either already been incorporated into
our process or what we will do to
enhance those through the CIP process
next slide
please here's one of those categories
that I mentioned being of operational
this will have the impacts to budget if
you've noticed this category has five
areas of focus listed below and as
mentioned earlier in the next slide I
will go over examples of how those have
been Incorporated at or will be next
slide
please here's the other category of
community benefit as stated it is a
benefit a value-based community benefit
that aligns with supporting policies and
plans again this also has five areas of
focus which I will then follow through
on the next slide with examples next
slide
please so as stated we will use Elevate
loss crues to align better with our CIP
process and some of those examples I'll
go over now good example for our
operational criteria is that that's
already been Incorporated is the impact
on operational budgets we've already
have that identified in the process to
identify and prioritize projects those
projects that do not have any additional
impact to our operational budgets either
through additional staff or equipment do
have a higher rating than those that do
not so with that aspect it's already
included one that is not included at
this time is projects of public interest
now I would like to clarify that the
general obligation Bond projects are not
or do not fall in this category as those
had great public interest that went
through a voting process and was voted
by the public to be incorporated and
that's how those projects
became listed on the capital Improvement
program a good example of projects that
would be incorporated here are those of
the skate park the skate park had public
interest which not only asked for
improvements to the existing facility
but also to build a new one those are
the types of public interest projects
that we will be working to enhance our
process in the CIP P to have those
projects prioritized and
listed the next category of community
benefit is that of one that again is
already included and that is of public
health and safety a great example of
these projects are those that utilities
has identified with the septic tank
remediation
projects those if they were not
mitigated would have a high impact to
the health and safety of our
community lastly one other item that we
will look at as an area of focus for
Community benefit as an example would be
that of uh quality of life again these
are projects that not only would
enhance our
community's quality of life through
those projects but also identifies other
projects such as historic
preservation which would include those
facilities and also natural resources
but again it would also incorporate
projects that would also enhance our
community's Aesthetics throughout so
although this portion is already listed
in our process and
prioritization it still needs to be
worked on to identify specifics related
to those items discussed thank you and I
I will turn it over to miss lean DEH
in our budget office thank you thanks
David well good afternoon mayor and
counselors lean
de as um Mark and also David Sido have
brought you to this um to this time now
it's time to talk about the budget and
as you know this is our first year for
fiscal year20 that we are um actually
operating at performance-based budgeting
and Elevate the compreh comprehensive
plan fits well within the alignment of
everything that we're doing and so think
of now uh for the budgeting purposes
think of the comprehensive plan now as
an umbrella and the con comprehensive
plan is the actual umbrella and
underneath it we're going to be aligning
uh the city strategic plan because the
first thing that we do in budget is we
budget your the city strategic plan
first and then what we do is is we work
with the Departments to align their
Department business plans to budget for
their targets to meet their targets and
so this Elevate the comprehensive plan
will just take everything under this
umbrella and just line it all up
together with the with the budget and
with our performance-based budgeting
because as you know our primary
objective for performance-based
budgeting is to improve the expenditure
prioritization that we're doing just
like David sadoo just showed in the CIP
and improving the efficiency and the
effectiveness of our city and to our
customer our residents and now I'd like
to turn it back over to um Community
Development to
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shashana thanks
lean
oh shashana you're muted you need to
unmute yourself there you go sry about
that sh bus again for the record so
you've heard today all the things that
are in play with with the seeming burden
of implementation on City staff um and
now to bring it all home to the mayor
and city council um here's a list of
some of the ways uh in which you can be
uh the captain of the ship by steering
us from the very beginning of the
planning process process to the
decisions you make as the elected body
uh with powers of governance um examples
of where your impact would be undeniable
is when you create the Strategic plan
for the city uh your participation and
Leadership through the policy review
committees your appointments to boards
which impact the work that they do uh
you also have a critical role to play in
fiscal planning and decision making on
projects um and tools
Beyond just the general fund or the
CIP your role in adopting uh and updated
Land Development code uh which David
Weir uh spoke up earlier and all
development cases that are brought to
you uh or before the city council for
decisions uh these decisions will change
the future development map uh could
change the future thoroughfare map and
have potential to change the course of
development and Redevelopment in Las
Cruses ultimately success for Elevate
can be achieved only with your
intentional support in all of these
areas and I want to thank you for taking
this role to heart and being the leaders
that we all need with that I conclude
this presentation and stand by with all
of the others for your
questions okay great so first question
from councelor
sorg thank you Mr Mayor this is
counselor sword um I simply have to say
that I'm very impressed
uh with way this um comprehensive plan
Elevate Los Cruses has been presented
here today again and the implementation
plan that you have uh it was well
presented I'm always impressed with uh
the staff there uh Mark and San and all
the others that have done this and so um
I'm looking forward to moving forward
right along and um I just have one
simple message message to tell the rest
of the council is that uh we need a city
manager that uh uh prioritizes this
implementation of the plan and um so I'm
looking forward to having that just that
kind of a city
manager working for us thank you Mr
Mayor thank you councelor mayor proam
councelor bet
stui thank you mayor thank you s and and
um David and everybody else that
presented very um very impressed um with
with the presentation um as I'm flipping
through notes I just want to make sure
that I'm capturing everything on page
four talked about the implementation
process and sort of our role as
counselors and one of the things that
strikes me um and I'm glad that you put
that um um
around our board uh board
Poes
um
and how important that is um in terms
of basically how they look in terms of
who are they how are they trained
up um when what kind of funding might be
available for the training and sending
them to
um the various um opportunities like
smart cities and U just the various um
trainings that are made available and
I'm thinking specifically to Planning
and Zoning um what the timing of the
meetings just how
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um
and and um what we are offering within
the confines of the anti donation when I
think about Elevate Los crues and the
number of meetings that um that um we
were asking folks to participate in but
not only um pnz they were sort of that
steering committee um I think about um
at least my representative having um
some difficulty getting getting to
meetings um it's not some of these
meetings were happening during the day
that isn't um conducive sometimes to
folks that are
working um and um I I guess I want to
and we've had these conversations before
in fact pretty robust conversations I
understand in terms of putting funding
aside to train up these individuals but
also
stiens um as they as they participate
through a process um I I think it's
really important to include Child Care
um and so when we talk about the makeup
of the of of these committees I want it
to reflect the demographics of our
community and oftentimes it doesn't and
so I I'd really like to see a little
more um specificity as it relates to how
we recruit for board um
members Commissioners those sorts of
and then what we're doing um to provide
them as much technical assistance as we
can um as it relates to this I'm just
now be being feeling more familiar you
know with um the comprehensive plan and
those kinds of things I can imagine
someone who is new and not have probably
the robust training that we need to have
in order to make sound decisions so as
is that something that we can add in
here um as we move forward
saan Mr Mayor councelor Gand that's an
excellent question we've had um some
discussion of this our Planning and
Zoning commission um playing a larger
role in just the regular updating of the
plan um definitely would um would
benefit from what you're talking about
um I would like to defer this question
because we have talked about it to a
certain extent um I'd like to defer to
my director of Community Development U
Mr Larry nles at this
point sure
Larry yes thank you mayor Larry neckolas
Community Development and mayor proam
Ganda uh as you mentioned earlier in
your comments just now uh this was a
process was over over two years uh
bringing the plan forward uh and it did
go through the pl and Zoning commission
uh was a all of them were members of the
uh the comprehensive plan advisory
committee the CPAC committee which is a
committee of
13 uh 13 folks U there were numerous
meeting meetings as you mentioned some
of them were during the day uh many of
them were at night uh we had multiple
meetings and uh folks were given ample
opportunity to participate in those I
believe if I recall correctly there were
over 13 or 14 public meetings in
developing this plan as far as the
training uh to uh for boards and
commissions the uh Community Development
part uh department has seven or eight
Boards of and commissions that we meet
with monthly uh most of those meetings
are are in the evening uh we do have a
few during the day but most of them are
in the evenings um we uh offer
opportunity for the U uh committee and
board members to attend uh webinars
seminars uh we have sent in the past uh
the uh a couple of the board members to
the U Congress for new urbanism for for
training and familiarization with the
projects that they'll be encountering so
um we will definitely keep that in mind
we will work to uh offer them
opportunities for for training and uh
helping their ability to make those
decisions thank you U Mr Nichols I
appreciate that I I don't want to lose
sight and this really isn't a criticism
it's a lot of it's a lot of of U we're
asking a lot of these folks right
especially and I would assume as we move
forward when you're talking about
another two-year process a $600,000
investment that you're going to be
asking folks to participate in and
getting feedback very similar to what I
would imagine is was the was the kind of
participation that um took place for
Elevate so I I want us to really think
differently and outside of the Box about
how we recruit people and this is to my
colleagues on Council but also how we
train them up and um offering
stiens Child Care um just
um various opportunities for folks that
otherwise don't participate in this
process because they don't have the time
and so I I I'm asking to to just look
into that a little further I know um I
want to say Mr Nichols before you got
here we had had some discussions about
each councelor setting aside funding to
be able to um Shore up or train up if
you will our our our people who's who
sit that we select and that sit on these
these boards and committees I think
would just it it would just benefit all
of us in the long run um if they're
afforded the kind of training um that I
think other
um I mean I've been to a few National
trainings that I have found um
incredibly helpful and I I would say
that um it takes these folks quite a bit
of time to get themselves right
um basically understanding what it is
that we're asking and those kind of
things so I I won't belabor that point
but I'd like for for us to really
consider that
um also in terms of the Strategic plan
Amber I understand you're feeling like
we need to
align
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um align our our our strategic plan to
the Elevate Los crues and so I I I agree
to a degree that it but it these are
council's priorities sort of setting
forth what I think um we'd like staff to
work
on um and it feels just a bit different
than what it is that you're asking us um
to do and so I I want I want to make
that comment I think it's important that
Council outlined the priorities set
forth um as we move forward and so maybe
it's looking at this um bigger Elevate L
crues and and pi King out but I I would
I feel very strongly that our strategic
plan aligns very nicely with much of a
lot I won't say much of but some of the
elements to the Elevate Los
crues um I just see it a I just see it
as a different vehicle um if you will so
Mar I noticed that she has her hand up
so if she wants to comment on
that about
Amber yes Amber go ahead please good
afternoon mayor and uh councilor Gand
and I understand what you're saying I
think the main purpose there would be to
look at what we're doing with the city
strategic plan and making sure that not
necessarily it aligns but it doesn't
conflict with Elevate maybe a way to
look at it as
well Amber I appreciate that and I think
that's really important and probably
goes for every single report that's
developed from here on out right just
making sure sure that it doesn't
conflict with our Elevate Los
crues
um so as were outlining um the cost and
the two-year process and the standards
and such I was I was taking notes and
thinking um again
would and I if I remember correctly
looking at it I think you've identified
what are the first pieces uh that we
need to
prioritize in terms of moving forward so
I get I'm challenged when I hear two
years um because a lot some of the stuff
probably needs to be to be had or to be
developed or changed if you will sooner
rather than later is there a way but I
want to say Elevate has indicated what
priorities we need we should be um
focusing our attention
on
that's to
serjan
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um mayor mayor protin this is David wear
if I might be able to address some of
that the two-year program was really the
updating of the development codes your
zoning ordinance um your your
subdivision code and your design
standards and so that's just a a reality
of that has to be developed in a a
public process in which we get input
from the stakeholders
and have uh give the Consultants an
opportunity to review uh what our
existing standards say what have uh what
has changed in development and and
incorporate those and go through that
public process so that's just a a time
frame of what the reality is uh to bring
a consultant on board to have them
review the existing conditions and
ordinances in Los cruus draft new ones
go through a public process of vetting
those and then sending them through the
um the adoption proc process the other
actions um I believe one of the sh
slides uh Shan noted that a lot of these
things are ongoing it's a reports it's
um uh various actions that the
Departments throughout the community
already or throughout the city already
Undertake and uh conduct on on a basis
so you um the minute that elevate Los
cus was had adopted uh some of that
information and implementation measures
were starting to take place uh just
speaking from Community Development and
development proposals as you see zone
changes and uh major subdivisions major
plan unit developments go forward you'll
see that they're now reviewed against
the policies and actions of the Elevate
loss crues and I know there's two or
three of them that we've actually made
recommendations for higher intensity
zoning districts on the properties than
were initially requested just so it
would be in conformance with Elevate so
um it's it it is a process that you're
going through and so um but I think the
other key was kind of what Amber said
it's important that you at least have an
opportunity to review the policies that
you adopted and Elevate with all the
other actions um that are that you make
as a city council and so that's what one
of the reasons we want to show the
relationship with the Strategic plan
relationship with your Capital
Improvement program and planning and
your budget that there is a relationship
for all these and they can reinforce one
another and and help you uh meet that
Vision that was adopted in Elevate Los
cruises thank you Mr were I appreciate
that um mayor I know that all of us
received um um or I don't know I
received a email from um Sharon Thomas
asking sort of questions and I don't
know will she have an opportunity or do
you want me to sort of dwell in on some
of the um questions and that she has
well yes I don't mind her speaking but I
was hoping to get through Council first
okay no no no that's fine so some of her
things have been uh questions asked is
like on the short-term work program
Pages 336 through 339 she like uh on the
cpeg would like to know how far the city
is on the part of
implementation on what
page 336 through 3
39 Mr Mayor um Council
Gand I would just point out that the
process that we outlined today uh that
um talks about how we are tracking
things and implementing things and
providing that report um that is part of
the process of updating the Planning and
Zoning Commission of of which of course
uh chair Thomas um is chair um and that
is uh really going to require a little
bit more time right now our priority was
to get these processes synced up um and
to uh inform staff how they should
proceed with this new plan in place uh
there's hundreds of policies in this
document and staff really just need a
direction to know what to do next um and
now with that in place we will tackle or
provided you know the new city manager
uh deems it so uh that we will attack
the short-term work program first uh and
then proceed to report on that uh and
then in the meantime we will also be
looking at some midterm and long-term
actions that are identified in the full
work
program thank you serjana I appreciate
that so today you're asking us um I get
you're sort of informing us and then now
we are saying move forward yes we're
giving you your B the blessing to move
forward um but I guess I'm stuck in
terms of which are the which ones will
you be moving forward which are the
higher priorities you're asking us to
give
that that that information right well
mayor protm let me you know I I think
we're kind of putting staff on the spot
as far as what policy to move forward
but I will I'm not trying to put anybody
I'm just trying to not trying to put
anybody on the spot no no I I didn't
mean asking is what are you asking from
us like do I have to say yeah I think
the first priority is to uh move in the
direction of the Land Management piece I
I I just want to know what they're
asking yeah and all I was going to get
at is I was going to wait till the end
but there was just a couple things and I
you know as I listen to you all
throughout the months and for some of
you the years years you all talk about
public engagement and and I think that's
really important to every single one of
you and so I was just going to ask uh
whether Shan or David where if if there
was something there about a
neighborhood organization registration
program and if it was where what where's
that at that's I I think that would be a
first step to maybe look at uh Shanna
was there something was there some
discussion on that I I know I was
looking on page on the volume four uh
page um 16 and it said something you
know obviously public participation is
very important and I think that's very
important every single one of the
council members throughout their time
when they speak they always want to make
sure the public is informed and how they
can engage the public but is there
something there on neighborhood
organization registration is there is
there something on that on that program
yes Mr Mayor uh just neighborhood
revitalization
and all of these policies have a home in
the work program in Elevate Los cruus
what you're referring to um I I don't
actually have volume four in front of me
right now is probably the public
participation appendix um and that
really probably
um I think what you're referring to is
is the process in which uh the public
was surveyed uh the their inut was
gathered no I think there's a there's an
actual place for neighborhoods to to a
neighborhood organization to to register
with the city is that is that not
addressed on that so Elevate Los Cruses
does um tell us to go ahead and have
that in place that that's an action item
in it telling us to go ahead and do it
we do have um neighborhood organizations
that um identify themselves with the
city and that is the community outreach
um office I believe and and that's Jamie
rickman's group so they do have
something in place uh I I can't
necessarily speak to that today um if
someone else wants to jump in uh please
do so uh but just to let you all know
that neighborhoods are very important
for Las cruus um in terms of the actual
comprehensive planning efforts um so
those items did uh make their way into
the full work program uh in terms of
prioritizing if I could just real
quickly address councelor ganda's uh
concern earlier
uh about how um what we're here to do
today really today was to inform the
city council um at your request on where
we are in implementation and all we're
doing today is just outlining what and
and just letting getting you all ready
to expect certain things um one way to
prioritize which actions are going to
get done first is that multi-pronged
approach to synchronizing the different
processes so we do a needs assessment
for Capital Improvement planning for
budgeting um all of these things need to
balance out it has to make sense and
what do we get what's the biggest bank
for a buck or what is the most crucial
thing that is needed in the community
right and part of that process of
identification really is is your plan
your the city council's um strategic
plan so you will in that manner
identify even higher priorities so you
will take the goals of elevate and then
you will emphasize what you want to see
done first so you can take the Elevate
recommendations and run with them or you
can redefine them to a certain extent
and I I see David yeah I did too yeah
David Dahan did you want to say
something Mr Mayor David Dahan for the
record I wanted to concur with what
Shanna was saying U first and foremost
this was a informational piece about
starting the process just because we've
adopted the plan doesn't mean it gets
implemented overnight there are a lot of
steps it it took us the better part of
10 years to adopt the last plan and
several years to rewrite the zoning code
that we need to rewrite again um and
then it took us multiple years to rezone
portions of the city based on that new
zoning code so this was to inform you of
how we were working at a staff level to
realign all of the proc processes that
involve the city and ultimately the city
council in your decision-making role
whether that's the CIP the budget your
strategic plan and and
using shanna's example
that uh Elevate is your umbrella and
everything needs to be under that
umbrella um and if it's not we need to
find a way to get it in there um that
that's also a possibility the other item
that I was going to address was the
neighborhood
um engagement is a key portion
throughout the entire document we do
have a neighborhood association or a
neighborhood group registration process
um that is something that we're working
with Community Development on revamping
to make it easier some of the examples
that we've had in the past is people
that were Loos knit groups that were
representing a neighborhood was great um
but their interest has fallen off or
they've aged out or they they don't want
to do it anymore and so how do we know
who the next person is and the
replacement um to that those previous
leadership roles within the neighborhood
association um there's some great
benefit to us as a community um it helps
us get the word out to a a smaller group
of people that represent those
neighborhood associations and then they
distribute to their own distribution
list so um that was that is in our our
work is in the works Mark Miller I know
has had discussions with Jamie Rickman
about that as of late and so that's uh a
work in progress along with Jam's staff
was working on that with GIS um so it's
all correct everything you've said today
is correct um it's just that we um this
was about informing you of how we were
working to align things you won't see
your first annual report until next
spring
um from an implementation standpoint it
it takes time and there are a lot of
short-term goals in there that um dep
departments are working on another
example is utilities they have a 40-year
water plan well they're revisiting that
40-year water plan to align with Elevate
so um these plans don't change
themselves overnight just because we've
adopted Elevate and there's public
processes involved with all of them so
the annual report um really over the
next 3 years will be crucial because
there a lot of the items that were on
the short-term implementation list are
to be
initiated um and there are budgetary
impacts with those
initiations um or initiation efforts uh
it may require more staff it may be
require an evaluation of how we use some
of our funding sources and we're
dropping off programs and activities to
replace or to start new programs and
activities that were identified within
elevate so um the really the whole
portion the whole point of today's
presentation was to give you as Council
an overview of how we're working to
align everything um under the Elevate
umbrella and where you will see decision
making at your level um which you will
see a lot of because of land use cases
come to you regularly um but you'll also
see the CIP and the budget uh strategic
plan Department strategic plans is as
you change the Strategic plan for the
council department strategic plans may
have to change so um it it's a cyclical
process um but it's one that we feel
like we've worked out to give you a
decent schedule um the the handout
within your packet and the slides toward
the end that um outlined everything
those are the two key takeaways that I
would ask you to look at um from today's
meeting well thanks Dave don't go away
because I want to talk to you a little
bit more about the neighborhood
organizations but I want to let the rest
of the council have their their their
say so mayor PM I know I interrupted you
were you finished or did you have some
more
comments thank you mayor um yeah I don't
I don't want by any means to in um elude
to or suggest that this is something
that happens
overnight um I know that um I I I just
want to make sure that we're giving
staff new all Administration direct the
direction that I think you need in order
to move forward um and so I I just want
to make sure that that that's happening
and lastly on this dashboard do you have
a dashboard already um prepared or is
this with the measures and standards and
sort of
determining so that we don't wait till
spring as Council we can go in there and
look at where things are at is
that sorry counselor Mr
May to address coun gander's comment um
that's David Doan speaking I was headed
there next David Doan for the record
mayor um we we have an older dashboard
that doesn't function well that's why
we're switching to what is open gov so
that will um as Amber
uh said in her portion of the
presentation that will be implemented
this summer and so that you will see
that sooner then you will see other
things um like the First full annual
report or um you will see the
performance indicators um going from
there so
um no we don't have it but we'll have it
shortly okay thank you thank you mayor
and mayor I'm I'm sticking on the line
I'm just going to mute my audio and
video and I've also also asked Jamie
Rickman to join us she can speak more
intelligently on the neighborhood
organizations portion and she just join
the meeting okay great thanks uh
councelor beta
stui thank you mayor uh thank you shaa
and everybody for all the hard work on
this I know it's such a comprehensive
document um and and there's a lot of
steps that have to be taken uh thank you
mayor protm for your questions uh a lot
of what I planned on coming in here to
do today I think is a little bit
different I mean I was ready to go like
line item by line item on item um and so
shifting that um it looks like we have
different phases that um when looking at
our packet we have items that um are
operational changes some that are
studies some that are procedural changes
it looks like Investments um I'm
assuming then but please um help educate
me um if it's an just an operational
change is that something that can start
happening now is that happening now
especially with um projects that are
listed as
ongoing who's that question to just
anybody sh unless it need to be directed
elsewhere Mr Mayor counselor AB stui
this is probably better answered by uh
David
dahhan but I will uh I'll just put my
two cents in um most of the operational
changes are relatively easier to make um
compared to a completely new item that
requires Financial investment however
some operational changes do require a
little bit more time um and perhaps
budget um consequences uh because we
might not have those
um we might not have the tools in place
right now to just you know quickly
change something and then make it work
uh it might require a little bit more of
a reorganization or restructuring um so
it just depends on the actual item okay
um if it is something that doesn't have
a financial component if it's able are
these um is it a change that can start
happening now since we've adopted or do
we still have a marker that we're
waiting on for some of these items that
don't have any of those further
issues and that can be for
David um Mr chairman councila sty David
all on for the record um some of them
can start right away the the other thing
is the some of them may require
evaluation um a further evaluation of
how to actually Implement them
um we may be working on them in one
regards and then Elevate says well we
need to do this well that requires us to
re-evaluate even if there's no budgetary
impact um to the operations um you there
there has to be some sense of evaluation
is this doing the right thing um and
there could be Community input that
would change how that um could um be
affected and this is not within Elevate
but specific but I'll use it as an
example um the neighborhood traffic
calming program um that's something that
we are always looking at always
evaluating each individual Street as the
neighborhoods come along and make a
request well is as part of we rewriting
the standards over the next couple of
years that may change how we implement
the neighborhood traffic calming program
because uh over my years we've seen it
where we did speed HPS and then we have
a period where we're not doing speed
humps and now we're doing speed tables
but we're also evaluating posting
signage and uh traffic monitoring where
we're posting uh digital speed limit
signs and encouraging people to change
their behavior and we're also doing
active enforcement so um it will depend
on the specific item if you have one
that is listed as ongoing that you have
concerns or a constituent has concern
concerns with um please email us um both
at at the city manager's office and Mr
Nichols with Community Development and
we can get you more detail as to what
it's going to take to implement and the
steps that will be involved um does that
make sense yes thank you um honestly for
for myself knowing that we've adopted
this this plan um when I see then policy
items um ordinances resolutions anything
I'm using that as kind of a marker and
guide for how I should proceed um and I
you know and looking forward in that way
um might I then get
clarification um with when regards to
Planning and Zoning when we are seeing
cases um come through to us then are
they using the Elevate um modeling at
all um for making those decisions or is
that something that is just still on
hold until we make those um changes in
code looks like Larry Larry Nichols
raised his hand so you don't mind if I
let him uh answer that yes thank you
thank you mayor and counselor AA St this
is Larry Nichol depart the Community
Development Department we
uh I'll put the video
on we have a a Planning and Zoning
commission meeting this evening uh it'll
virtual meeting uh as as this meeting is
uh we have five cases uh in those cases
uh we are um presenting our case packet
to the Planning and Zoning commission
and there is specific wording in there
that these cases have been reviewed and
are compliant with Elevate Los crues so
we already uh utilizing the
comprehensive plan that was has been
adopted to review our this one happens
to be a zoning change um and so we
already are utilizing uh the plan and
our reviews with the Planning and Zoning
commission fantastic thank you that's
that's good to hear um you know I want
to make sure that we're we're moving
forward on these it does sound like a
lot of these items are going to take um
a little bit of time to make sure that
we're doing it um with that Community
input and processing but I look forward
to helping
um expedite any processes that need to
be on our end to make sure that we can
start implementing um these items um so
thank you and that's it for mayor okay
thank you counselor uh Yanna uh
councelor Ben conell thanks mayor um and
thanks to the staff as well Sir John I
always appreciate you talking about this
you are super passionate and it shows
and I love that um I also though
prepared significantly differently for
this for this work session um and by no
means does that mean that I don't think
your presentation was incredibly helpful
it absolutely was I was very much
expecting this conversation to be
significantly different um much like
coun beta stui I also was prepared to
talk about specific action
items um which I think you know I'm
sensing that this Council a lot of the
folks on this Council are sort of
prepared for that and I get that um this
it the work falls on the staff right and
and so I want to be you know fair and
all of that because I I get that that a
lot of the work were fall in the staff
but there's also Council that's very
action oriented right now right that's
saying I would like to move on some of
these things um and I hear my colleagues
sort of saying that same thing so um I
would definitely love to see some time
soon um I don't know if it's another
work session or what but to really think
through how do we prioritize some of
these shortterm actions um some that are
perhaps um administrative actions that
don't need to come to council how do
those move more quickly than perhaps
those that do require a legislative or
policy push um you know I want to note
that um um Miss Sharon Thomas you know I
wanted to ask her regarding the survey
that she said she had done and and um
sort of pull out what what are the
community what is the community saying
that is more of a priority to them I
could certainly tell you that from you
know the emails that I get from
constituents um they are relating a lot
to um Public Safety uh neighborhood
traffic enforcement codes right like
beautification of neighborhoods
livability in that sort of area and so I
certainly would love to and I know that
there's a ton of action items regarding
that and actually mayor I think you're
right on with the neighborhood
organization
um gosh I can't find it now but the
neighborhood organization
um registration or whatever you know
it's something I've actually been since
I've been on the council it's something
I've been talking with Jamie about um in
terms of I want to connect with people
in District 4 much differently instead
of having large Comm commun large
districtwide meetings I want to have
neighborhood based meetings because
neighborhoods in District 4 are
incredibly different and diverse and I
feel like that that sort of vision that
I've had fits really well with some of
these pieces and so um counselor we can
ask we can coun mayor mayor fortim
ameritus Thomas is waving her hand I
find it hard to believe she doesn't know
how to put the little hand up as smart
as she is that's okay yeah I would love
to hear from her I think um that she
probably has some insight to this but I
guess I just um also like like Cate this
doy my questions that I had are sort of
irrelevant because I prepared for this
differently but I would love to hear
from um Mir P Meritus on on you know
some of the how we move forward um
because this could get really
overwhelming really quickly and so don't
set some priorities it's we're just
going to be like it's too hard I don't
know right and so I don't want that to
happen um especially when you have a
council that's like ready to go so
um um mayor proam ameritus I don't know
if you want to jump in before you do I
just got to ask councelor sorg are you
on Gilligan's Island because that sure
looks like the sure looks like it back
okay uh Sharon Sharon
Thomas um good afternoon everybody can
you hear me yes yes okay I had to set up
a new microphone so um so I guess what I
started out referring to was the list
um of the shortterm work program that's
in the Elevate Las crues and so it talks
about actions under the three different
themes and so those were actions that
the
consultant suggested and so I guess I
was interested in knowing if the Council
felt like those were the actions that um
they wanted to the staff to address
first so it was just a list and I guess
that's I pointed people in that
direction these are these are some
actions suggested by the consultant that
they think ought to be addressed first
and so um I was interested in knowing
what the council thought about that um I
understand that the staff has to look at
this differently and they have to put a
process in place and how all the
different departments are going to work
together and how they what they're how
they're going to set up these
um um ways of communicating with one
another um and that was that's all very
useful and I'm I'm happy to hear that
they're working on that and they're
working towards a new and different kind
of dashboard and um I just as um some
people other people have said I was
looking more at the steps that are
listed in the Elevate Las Cruses and um
as to the neighborhoods um there used to
be a neighborhood registration program
and I used it pretty extensively in my
Council District because I had many
neighborhoods that had been organized
around a homeowners association and then
the developer left and that went away
and or sometimes the developer was still
there but the neighborhood had had
disagreements with them and they wanted
to organize and so I encouraged them to
use this city program and a lot of them
did that and it was easy and it wasn't
very complicated and it didn't include
paying fees and stuff like HOAs and so a
number of neighborhoods did organize
that way and they felt
like they had
um they had more power when they came to
the city because they could say our
neighborhood came together and want
wants to talk about that they also did
things like there was one group that um
had moved on from theira and they were
they offered to do kind of work sessions
with other neighborhoods who were in
that situation and so and and they
shared across neighborhood organizations
and one had a really great newsletter
and you know they had different ways of
operating and they were sharing those
ideas and so I think that's important
and then um the other issue is um the
city I'm from in Michigan East Lancing
the mayor actually instituted the
neighborhood associations and asked that
each Elementary School District come
together and organize and choose someone
to represent them on a council that
worked with the mayor um I know
Albuquerque has very strong neighborhood
associations and so does El Paso work a
little differently but it they are all
dedicated to more communication between
the neighborhoods and the council and
the mayor and I've seen
those um that kind of approach work very
well and so I just was suggesting it
already says in the comprehensive plan
that um it suggests that that the city
reinstitute that neighborhood
registration program and so I would was
hoping the council would want to talk
about how to use that once it's re uh
instituted what page where did you see
that at uh
Sher the neighborhood uhhuh to re
reestablish or reinstitute the
neighborhood plan um I think it's on
page
181 there's a statement about
neighborhoods and a list and uh some of
the policy framework that applies to
neighborhoods okay
good
thanks counc Ben KO did you have
anything more you wanted to oh looks
like Jamie Jamie has her hand up can I
let her uh jump in real quick
sure Jamie good afternoon everyone can
you hear me yes okay this is Jamie
Rickman Community engagement manager for
the record thank you so very much for
allowing me to participate in the work
session today um I just wanted to
clarify a couple of things we've had
lots of discussion about neighborhood um
associations and involvement engagement
and it's CR crucial to have that occur
we are sort of poised to start fresh
with a new fiscal year and so I wanted
to let you know that that it hasn't been
forgotten or or what have you um Mr
Dahan was correct in saying that we've
had to revamp a lot of things because uh
through attrition people leaving coming
and going losing interest it's been a
lot of flux in these past years and so
um from what I've experienced and have
seen there has to be some active
recruitment uh for the neighborhood
groups there has to be value shown to
them to be able to know what they can
get from being a member of of this
Association of the group um of the
regist being registered with the city
and it's more than just being notified
within a certain area in advance of a
certain project that's going on in their
neighborhood it's got to be more to that
and so um I had hired an intern uh some
time ago to be able to help with that
and come up with some creative ideas
which we have in stock and it's a matter
of being able to
um process these ideas in such a way
that the neighborhoods get a great
benefit from their registration with the
city and that the city also has a
benefit from this relationship in terms
of keeping up to dat with membership uh
making sure that people understand how
to participate with the city as a
partner and not you know uh having them
understand that this the Civic process
is really an important thing to improve
the community and to help the community
and you know it goes it far reaches into
various departments like Parks and
Recreation utilities and you know
creating that cohesive environment a
partnership with everybody and so it's
it's almost on the verge here and in my
conversations with the counselors It's
been wonderful to be able to get your
input in terms of what you see as your
bigger vision and so I hear that
tremendously and will pursue toward that
end what your goals are and just wanted
to assure you that that is on the
Forefront of this coming fiscal year to
be able to really make a strong impact
and in Road into the neighborhood so
they have equal footing and opportunity
and partnership with the
city thank you
Jamie yeah thank you Jamie I really
appreciate working with you I'm
definitely a treasur in this
organization for sure oh thank you that
councel Beno for the record um um I
think sort of maybe the last couple
things I'll add ask about are um you
know I got an email from Russ Smith
who's District 4's representative on the
pnz and served on this committee for
Elevate Los crues um and he
mentioned um sort of the
um um in starting on page
224 through um I don't know lots of
pages lot later um that partnering
agencies um are really lacking
um um are really sparse throughout that
section and so I'm wondering what staff
serjan um Dave danahan if um if you are
looking at that list if you are thinking
about who to pull in to some of those
places right if this is I mean this is
going to be overwhelming for someone to
try to do on their own or one Department
of the city to try to do on their own um
and speaking of partnering right how do
we better partner with people and and
then start
identifying um a wide variety of
agencies organizations across the city
that aren't necessarily our usual
suspects as always right and so um is
there a conversation happening around
the partnering agencies section of this
plan and who is that question addressed
to serjan or Dave Dahan or Mr Weir I
don't know whoever can answer
it Mr Mayor I can I can
take this is Shan baset for the
record Mr Mayor councelor
Ben the partnering agency's um list is a
primitive you know first uh attempt at
putting together um some of our
participants during the Elevate planning
process who were interested in helping
implement the plan so it's not an
exhaustive list um and that is because
each action item needs to go through
evaluation as I believe um David um
alluded to earlier and
so we that process is still um in the
making if you
will great okay well I'm glad that
that's definitely happening I think
perhaps that could even get flushed out
through prc's and the work that we're
doing there right um which actually
leads me to my second question uh shj
and that's might be for you or Dave
dahhan um regarding some of those where
we're at I think I recently got cend
invite for one of them I'm wondering um
when the sort of those meetings are
coming up for prc's I know that I sit on
Two And so the way that I've been
approaching this manual is through the
lens of those two committees that I will
sit on which is sustainability
transportation and infrastructure and
then the housing one right so I've been
sort of tackling this manual through the
both of those lenses to try to see okay
what are some of the priorities in this
manual both short-term and longer term
that I can bring to that those
committees and then perhaps that's a
better way also to try to prioritize the
way we uh go about some of these um some
of these
actions Mr Mayor if I may yes David
David D for the record uh councelor Momo
you get the prize for the day uh he
winner winner um so that is our imple
one of our key implementation tools
um is the policy review committees and
they will be asked to gain a better
understanding of what is in Elevate Los
crusis for all of those uh um ongoing
and short-term and long-term projects
and we are working on organizing them
all now um I I believe I have a meeting
tomorrow with the staff aison to start
um coordinating with the initial groups
from the policy review committees by the
initial groups that that means the three
counselors that are appointed to them
sorry about the cat and then um
then then we will start working on the
other ex official members to pull us in
but we want to use the policy review
committees um as the key implementation
team for all of the elements of uh
Elevate Los cruus all of the work uh
items we want to be able to used the
council both from a feedback loop and
hearing from you and hearing from your
constituents about issues that we're
discussing at the policy review but also
to communicate back to you as to where
we are on implementing things so um uh
though that your membership on those
respective committees will play a key
role great that's exciting to hear I'm
looking forward to to um being with my
colleagues on on that um on those
committees coming up soon that's it for
me Mr Mayor thank you okay thank you
councelor
sorg it's like you got off the island
yes I did I went to Germany um I have
just wanted to give an overall U maybe
30 or
20,000 foot level uh impression of this
whole plan and and how why I'm excited
about it um I'm so looking forward to
the land development code as a starter
as well as all the other parts um
because I want to see a City built for
people not for buildings uh it's one of
the new urbanism um uh ideas that are
being presented in to us here um so in
other words a change in the city uh the
existing city as well as a newb built
city um that is more walkable more
multimodal um and a mixed use city that
has commercial real taale office
Recreation all with and mixed
residential from all the way from single
family housing to Apartments uh multif
family uh and everything in between so
that everybody can walk to one or two of
their things they need to go to so that
when they think about I gotta go out I
got to do this or that uh the first
thing they think of is jumping in the
car or the truck and so that uh they
have that option to be able to walk to
it or take their bike to it or even take
the city bus to it uh to do what they
want to do so um that's what I'm looking
forward to in this uh comprehensive plan
and I'm looking forward to see it get
going here and I think we're making good
progress there thank you so much to
everyone here
today thank you ke thank you
councelor uh councelor
Flores
thank you Mr Mayor and and thank you
srijan and and Larry Nichols and David
Weir and uh Jamie um Rickman and of
course always David
dollahan um and everyone else who spoke
here today um I think the best part of
this
presentation was um the importance of
the uh appointments uh to the
boards and um and mayor protm uh Gandara
hit on a very important point about
having board me I believe it was board
members if I'm wrong about that I'm
sorry uh maybe I was just maybe I went
off on a
tangent but to educate uh board members
as to what their uh roles are and um and
I and I'm still in a quandry and I know
David dollahan wife pulling his hair out
um but um I know that
um counselors can go to to conferences
you know if we have a conference coming
up and I was privileged to uh travel
with Sharon Thomas and Gil sorg a couple
of years ago almost to the day um we
went to Savannah
Georgia uh for the Congress on new
urbanism and I was so excited about it I
know that um at a finance uh committee
which the
mayor sat uh chaired I I I don't know if
it was still called the finance select
committee but uh emman was uh councelor
emman was on it too but I brought up the
subject of um having um allocations of
funds or budget items that would provide
travel for board members for them to
understand exactly what their role is
because with all due respect to um the
Planning and Zoning commission um but I
have had a couple of conversations with
well I've had conversations with some of
the the members and um and they're
lovely human beings and I'm not going to
name anybody um but I I was actually
appalled at how they didn't understand
what their role was and what the
function was and
um so my my my I I I want to um support
what mayor G uh Pro Gander said about
providing Mr Nichol all do respect you
said that you sent somebody one or two
people a couple of years ago I think it
was one person and I think it was Brian
bird and um and he's an employee of the
city he's not a board member and I think
it's wonderful that Brian was there and
um and it was a wonderful uh there were
a few uh seminars that we sat in on
together and uh it was really uh great
uh so that is something that I would
like to put out there um and I also want
to thank uh shrijan for her presentation
this evening uh because
um because of emphasis of how we move
forward at this point you know it was
all fine and dandy having all these
meetings with the community and putting
our little Post-its here and there and
then coming up with a final beautiful
little package and the question now is
where do we go from here how do we get
there so um and I think it's wonderful
that Tessa excuse me um councel AEI and
councelor
bomo um went through each it item and
we're thinking in terms of the the their
respective prc's and that's definitely a
way to to uh it's it's definitely the
blueprint that we have to that we have
to follow um and and the one area though
um and and and I and the important uh
emphasis that
San um gave
um the emphasis was that the city
council had has to direct uh the
priorities here and I and I think that
sometimes we think okay uh you know we
we we put this beautiful Elevate Las
Cruses it's ready and and then you know
just lay it you know hit it on there
like an omelet and tell staff to pick it
up and and run with it well you know I
it doesn't I don't think it works that
way and um and um and Shan made it clear
that we can take up their you know we
can just uh run with whatever it is that
they presented or we can look at it and
and set our priorities consistent with
of course the Strategic plan and um so
uh that's important and then the other
thing I would like to focus on and have
us think about is the fact that the next
review would be in 2006 which is six
years from now and
um six years from now for me is a long
time in so far as reviewing to make sure
that we're staying um that we're on
course and maybe a 2003 would be better
because um there are times when you know
we have a meeting and something has come
up and it sounds like it's awfully new
and then you realize oh no this is
something that we voted on already or
this is something we already whatever um
so we just have to keep you know we have
to keep our finger on that pulse and so
far as how Elevate lases is moving along
whether we uh have to look at our
strategic plan so that everything we do
Under the Strategic plan Falls within
the parameters of the comprehensive plan
the Elevate Las Cruses so again I want
to thank staff Mr Weir um Everybody if
I'm leaving anybody out I apologize but
um but miss Bia was absolutely wonderful
and I'm glad how you threw the ball
right back and said said uhuh this is
your call not ours so thank you all very
much and um it's really great to see you
Sherry talk to you a couple of times but
um so it's nice to see people I miss
everybody I even miss uh well I won't
say who um but I miss everybody very
very much and um I just can't wait for
this to be over because uh just Ed in me
and then an occasional neighbor who's
you know across the street that E's
barking at or something um but anyway
everybody I just want to say that uh
it's wonderful having you as colleagues
and comrades and um love you Jamie
Rickman and thank you for all your
contributions and uh I don't know what
we would do without you well that I
don't know what we do without anybody in
the city you're all wonderful thank you
Mr
M thank you um Larry Nichols you had a
comment yes Mr Mayor thank you Council
Flores Larry Nichols Community
Development for the record uh I will
basically just want to comment U on the
item that Council Flores identified as
one of the principal uh uh points of
interest for this presentation and that
was the uh training or the orientation
for board and commission members uh in
particular I can speak to the Planning
and Zoning commission whenever
appointment is made uh by a council
member uh to that Commission
uh we have those U individuals come to
the Community Development Department and
we bring in the legal uh uh staff and
our staff and we go through the entire
uh uh duties
responsibilities
protocol uh Robert's Rules of Order uh
what they're expected to do uh I'm a I'm
like you I'm I'm a little surprised that
uh some of those members to you that
didn't know what their duties were
because we we have had that presentation
to to every single one perhaps we need
to do refresher courses uh maybe on a
more frequent basis but uh I do know
that they had a couple of hours uh of
orientation uh for their
appointments okay well thanks Larry you
know it and it's just a reminder I I
know every time I talk with a new
council member about how long it's going
to take for them to feel comfortable in
doing what they're doing and I think a
lot is uh similar to the Planning and
Zoning you you can just do your best and
and hopefully they they understand some
of that
so anyway anyway so I was gonna ask I'm
sorry I'm sorry coun no I oh I'm sorry I
didn't real I thought I was on mute I'm
so sorry that's okay what I get but no I
was just saying you're saying hopefully
you're saying hopefully hopefully
hopefully well time in time they get it
you know it's just it's like anything
else it's a learning curve true true
true but when you're thinking about
people's lives and planning and
zoning okay that's why you have staff to
you know give them the pros and cons and
and and you just hope that they they
listen go from there okay so I just want
to clarify a couple things with David uh
Donan since everyone's done talking and
and this might be something if Council
wants to move forward okay um but
getting back to the neighborhood
registration so let me just share with
you a true story it was um you know
Carolyn who works for me actually used
to work for for my predecessor mayor
matis and so one day she was there with
this huge list of all these different
neighborhood associations and uh it was
pretty impressive in fact I was a little
worried because I was thinking you know
what are they doing here that what a way
to access the entire city and then when
I was a city counselor I used to um get
a lot of emails and actually separated
my emails into different parts of the
district and in fact when I took over I
gave those to Sher and then in fact I
even think I gave some to Gil because I
even have from District Five so what a
great way to really keep in touch with
our constituents especially when uh when
there was a situation like if there was
one in in h Sonoma Ranch and then I
think I even have to broken down to
Sonoma Ranch east I mean even further
East toward the mountain but what I'm
trying to get at is if I can revisit the
discussion uh David about the
neighborhood organizations because I
think this might be an opportunity for
Council to move forward on an item or
two because when you stop and think
about it everything that we do affects
of course our our constituents our
neighborhoods all parts of the city and
by having this uh organization or um
allows that collaboration and
interaction with the public and also for
council members to have access to their
constituencies so can you earlier you
said something that it was looking at
being revamped or can you kind of give
us a status on that please Mr chairman
uh David alhan for the record um yes it
is looking to be reinstituted um there's
been some drop off so um mayor what I'll
ask is for uh Jamie Rickman and I to
coordinate a meeting with you to address
um our concerns and to hear your um what
direction you'd like for us to Pro
provide um we're we've in the past we've
had defined boundaries of the
neighborhood associations and I use air
quotes that though you may not be able
to see it um because we were trying to
avoid overlap and dis disputes between
um differing neighborhoods we so uh
we're going to have to revisit that um
we would support situations where um
individuals that don't want to be part
of neighborhood associations are on your
constituent list your I believe you all
have Outreach lists for your District
that people have asked to receive your
newsletters or something but when we
have a a formal or informal group of
adjoining neighbors or vicin general
vicinity and we can recognize them as a
neighborhood group rather than using the
word association that that means so many
other things um and then go from there
but we'll we'll we'll revisit it with
you directly mayor okay yeah and then uh
um I think there was also some reference
to establishing a council of
neighborhoods was that I I didn't speak
to that I I know that um Sharon Thomas
spoke about um there are councils of
neighborhoods I know Houston has a
council of neighborhoods um they have a
little different uh Land Development
process and they they use a mayor's
Council of neighborhoods so that's
something that we can evaluate as
well Sherry did you Thomas did you have
any comment on that before we close on
the Council of neighborhoods um I guess
I just want to say that I think uh in Al
El Paso they do the neighborhood
associations by the council districts
and in um Albuquerque it's more done
like the day the neighborhoods are more
distinctive there you know there's the
downtown neighborhood and the Knob Hill
neighbor neighborhood and I don't know
exactly how they set the the um
parameters but I think again it lines up
somewhat with the council's districts
and as I said in um East Lancing where
I'm from the mayor ask each um
neighborhood around a each Elementary
School to organize and that's how they
set out the
district
um the outlines of the district so there
any number of ways to look at this um in
the past we let people if they decided
in their neighborhood that they were
more comfortable with doing a
neighborhood watch group then you know
we accepted that that's what they wanted
to do if they wanted to continue with
their HOA as their way they um came
together that was okay if they didn't
have an
HOA and they could set up this
neighborhood association that was
possible through the city so in the past
those were the only guidelines at least
in my district they could choose from
any of those three possibilities but if
you want to have a council of
neighborhoods then I think it has to be
more deliberately laid out in terms of
what the districts are and who all
belongs to that district and how they're
going to come together then to send a
representative to a
council Sherry can you give that
information if you want to move forward
to your council member um I forgot her
name I'm looking right at her oh
councelor flotes yes can you give that
to her and then um I'll let her look at
that and then maybe we'll bring that up
for a work session because it's it
sounds interesting yeah okay and then
I'll get with David and and Jamie on the
uh neighborhood or reorganization or
excuse me neighborhood organization
registration program okay I can do that
that good thank you okay well thank you
can I ask one other thing while I'm um
so at the beginning I said that there
are a list there is a list of um actions
that was put forth by the Consultants
that in Elevate Las Cruses and they're
laid out according to community
environment and Community prosperity and
Community livability which are the three
themes and so um I'm really curious to
know if the council is going to have an
opportunity to um look at those
recommendations and and have some input
in whether or not that's what the
council wants the staff to go forward
with because that's what's laid out in
the
plan Mr Mayor yes David um what I I'll
offer is that we'll we'll schedule um
and we want to give you opportunity a
few of you have done homework um
apparently um we'll we'll revisit with
staff and get back to another work
session but give you opportunity to
provide a specific feedback on those
action items um thank you staff's
telling me that the list was not the
consultant it was either generated by
public input or or CPAC or Council or
combinations thereof um um and it was
prioritized by
Council um through the prioritization
process that did earlier this year in in
January so we see those as your
priorities um we we do need to work on
all of them but we can't work on all of
them at once so um uh creating a
hierarchy or a further prioritization is
what we uh need to move to um so we'll
work on another work session um this
summer for that yeah that sounds good
let's let's do that and in the meantime
Sher if you can get that to um your
council member uh to councel Florida
that be great mayor I add one more thing
related to that um the you should be
using that um staff can't encourage you
enough uh as counselors as we bring
forward the strap pan consultant um we
would hope that you would use a
prioritization list um to help you with
um it's not intended to be all inclusive
or exhaustive but um it can help you
okay okay sorry about that I lost my I
was trying to figure out how counselor
sword hit got that little hand or
thumbed and I messed up to so you guys
can't see me he's giving his the hands
are clapping hands he was giving yeah no
no I saw that well no I know but there
okay we're back all right so qu goofing
around there counselor
so all right so uh okay I think that's
it so if there's nothing further um so
we'll revisit this in about another
another month or so
discuss some more information very good
thank you for uh all the information
that you have relayed so far all the
great questions and um there's nothing
further entertain a motion to adjourn so
moved second motion made by councelor
Sor second by councelor Beta sty that
we're that we adjourn all those in favor
signif by saying I I suppose we're
adjourn it's 512 PM
thanks okay um Christina you want me
just stay on for the agenda setting
meeting yes me just grab my paper and
then I'll be ready when you are
okay okay whenever you're ready
okay so this is the agenda setting
meeting for the June 1st 2020 city
council meeting number one consent one
consent two consent two consent three
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consent five consent five consent six
non-consent six non-consent seven
consent seven consent and eight
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non-consent thank
you okay thank you see you all later
thank you mayor here thanks you have a
good evening you too thank you thank you
thank you Christine we'll see you later
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