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good afternoon mayor we are live okay
good afternoon everybody welcome to the
work session of las cruces city council
today is monday october 12 2020 it's
approximately 1 p.m
before we begin if you please just join
me in the pledge of allegiance please
pledge allegiance to the flag of the
united states of america
and to the republic for which it stands
one nation
under god indivisible with liberty and
justice
for all
and now we're going to have our pet of
the week
and i guess uh jennifer martinez you're
doing double duty
you're going to introduce our pet of the
week and in in two respects so
i'm helping to open the meeting today
but also
i would like to let you know that we are
going to have two
pets of the week from now on because
we are going to do one cat and one dog
so
good afternoon mayor and council i am
jennifer martinez with the city's
communications office and today i'd like
for you to meet two furry friends
um first we will have figaro figueroa is
a laid back cat
who loves peace tranquility and lounging
he is an introvert but he once he warms
up to you
he will love you like you have never
been loved before he invites you to bond
with him at the animal service
center over a glass of milk then we have
calibri a two-year-old girl who just
loves the outdoors and staying active
she's always on the move and loves being
around others
giving attention and spreading joy and
giving kisses
you can meet both of these animals at
the animal service center of the messiah
valley
the hours of operation are monday
through friday noon to 6 p.m and on
saturday and sunday noon to 5 pm
you will of course still need to make an
appointment you can call the number
3820018 there on the bottom of your
screen
right now the off-site adoption events
are still canceled until further notice
but if you are interested in adopting
you can go to the website ascmb.org
adoptions the cost is 25 and you will
look for an app number
and then call to make an appointment to
see the animal that you've chosen
again that same number is three eight
two zero zero one eight
a reminder about pet licensing pets in
las cruces must be registered and
licensed and you can also do so through
the animal service center of the sea
valley but they are temporarily
suspending the in-person license
sales so keep that phone number handy if
you're interested three eight two zero
zero one eight and you can arrange to
have the license mailed
to you the fee structure goes as follows
if you have an altered pet that cost is
seven dollars per year an unaltered pet
the cost is fifty dollars per year
and if you're an older las crucin a
senior citizen the cost is only five
dollars per year but you do need to show
proof
with a valid photo id and each week the
communications office
reminds you of what we are doing to
respond to the covid
pandemic that's going on and so we do
have another mask up las cruces event
which is coordinated by the quality of
life department
and then also um they've already done a
couple and so now we're going to have
another one
along the way and there will be another
couple more coming up so
right now we have one for wednesday
october 14th that's from five to seven
pm at the field of dreams parking lot
that's 2300 to shiro drive
you will of course enter from teshiro
and then this time is something a little
bit different you
will also have the opportunity to have a
free covet test
and if you're interested in that you do
need to wear a mask when you drive up so
um
it's encouraged to wear a mask
regardless but um if you are interested
it's again october 14th wednesday from 5
to 7 p.m
at the field of dreams and again there
will be additional
mask up events that are coming in the
future so we'll give you more details on
those
as we get closer to those dates thank
you mayor have a great afternoon
thank you jennifer okay ann now we go to
jobs of the week
and arlene lopez will
make that presentation thank you mayor
good afternoon members of the council
this is darlene lopez one stop operator
for the workforce connection offices in
southwest new mexico
so the jobs of the week are a gas
measurement tech for the city of las
cruces that's one position
and that's open until 11 4 of 2020
the next one is refrigeration technician
for stampede meets
there's one position open until filled
and then we have a registered nurse for
tresco
there's one position that's open until
filled
direct support staff or caregiver for
lessons of life
llc and that's open until filled and
then we have one
buncher and one multi-wire operator
for cn wire and that's open until filled
and we also will be having a virtual job
fair for cnyer on october 29
2020 and we'll be working with the city
to uh
promote that and and working together to
get
um get the information out to the public
for more information
on a full list of jobs and other
opportunities
you can go to employanem.com or
government jobs dot com forward slash
careers forward slash las cruces
okay thank you darlene
thank you all right now we're going to
go ahead and go
get on with the agenda there's three
items on the agenda
the first one being a proposal of
amendments regarding
the lease of mmc or memorial medical
center
and i believe mr bill hamm will be
introducing
our presenter bill are you there
everybody see me yes all right good
afternoon
mayor council uh bill hamm economic
development department
uh today yes we are here to talk uh
about uh some proposed amendments to the
memorial medical center lease memorial
medical is being represented by
chief executive officer mr john harris
and chief financial officer
mr steve steve weingartz and they will
be here to present
the proposals and details for certain
amendments to the lease for council's
information
so with that i will turn it over to mr
harris
harris and mr weingarten gentlemen
thank you bill
well i don't see john harris i see
janice jones his executive assistant
john is on that table they're muted oh
they are
oh i can't unmute him so
annette can you unmute or barbara and
mute those gentlemen please
or david darling
mr mayor it's going to be have to be
adrian um
they haven't made us co-hosts yet uh
let me see oh i don't even know what
agent was there
david you are co-host and so is barbara
let me see i'm you so they gotta they'll
get a prompt
on mute now on their end so we could
just prompt it we can't actually
unmute for them
well let's see here there
mr mayor i'm i'm texting janice jones to
see if she could step
in there i was going to do that but
thank you
uh can i suggest that the table i don't
know if well no it's not a phone in
never mind
uh
can you hear us yes all right
okay uh that was steve weingart i'm john
harris
mayor thank you and city council thank
you so much
uh for having us participate in your
meeting today i'm actually going to have
steve weingarten my cfo
make the presentation so steve i'll hand
over the microphone to you
are you able to see the presentation
not yet
maybe we need to be able to release the
or let you share the screen
i will try to share this my screen on my
side well let's get with one of the
hosts and see if
they can yeah they're they're allowed to
i'm sorry if someone else spoke
oh i'm sorry mayor uh yes they have they
have the permissions to share their
screen
okay are you able to see the
presentation now
uh no sir
all right we're having they can't see
our presentation okay can we take a look
we're on the live mine yeah sure
and this is barbara deleon can i bring
it up on my end and share my screen
this is a nat and i believe the problem
is is that you're logged on to your
um on the conference
computer and he's trying to share the
screen from his personal
um computer so it's not going to work
oh we want to have you log on to the
laptop i believe what we're trying to do
are you remoting into your desktop
interest oh this is it
this is not my laptop no right
so um
if you'd like we can we can share
the screen over here and then you just
provide the narrative would that be okay
that works for me okay barbara if you
want to go ahead and
put that up that'd be great i'm bringing
it up can you see it
yes i'm trying to get a sense of what
they've got things here is is this where
f3 comes into play
it's f5 right so you're just going to
narrow it down yeah
okay yeah but i need to get rid of all
that there you go
good yep i'm good gentlemen can you see
the screen
yeah so this is yours they need to see
him though
he just took it off
john or or steve can you see the screen
we're working at it well i i think we've
got it up
i think we've got it up now if you'd
like you can we can
you just provide the narrative all right
all right
you won't be able to necessarily see us
but we
can see you yeah we can see you guys
here yeah we can see
all right all right i'm on the i'm on
the title screen
there's a proposed lease amendment
moving to slide one
so in terms of existing lease
and thank you ladies and gentlemen for
allowing us to present this afternoon
this is a proposed lease to the
um amend our amendment to the proposed
lease that we have with the city and the
county of las cruces for the facility
the existing the existing lease
is was executed in may 19 2004
the 40-year lease and we are 16 years
into that lease
to date the terms of the existing lease
require
four percent of net revenue is a capital
investment
and there are other terms of the lease
as well but the two major
components of that is the calculation of
the four percent
of net revenue is based on a rolling
three-year average
and capital investment is to be used for
facility improvements
and equipment what we are proposing as a
lease amendment
is that the capital investment would
move from four
to 3 of hospital operations
the capital investment is measured on a
cumulative
life today to the lease and we would
eliminate the calculation of the rolling
three-year average
for capital investment we'd also propose
that we put some definitions
into the lease amendment that capital
investment
would include all additions to the fixed
asset accounts
in the current fiscal year and life
today to the least
that we would add a component for any
major repairs that are under 25 000
involving renovations or upgrades to the
facility
that do not meet the capitalization
policy
and for the first 12 months of a newly
recruited position
those costs would be included in the
definition
of the capital investment
as well as investments that we would
make an electronic
health record for new applications
interfaces or significant
upgrades that do not meet the
capitalization policy
we would also propose to put in
reporting requirements
where we would submit annual updates to
the city council and county
commissioners
to report status of the capital
investments for the fiscal year
and life to date of the lease and those
update reports would be due by
april 30th of each year for the previous
fiscal year
and the likes to date of the lease some
discussions around our proposed
amendment
reducing it from four percent to three
percent is more in line
with the national norm or the capital
expenditures for the hospital
i'm sorry if you want to advance the
slide some more
one more another one there there
i'm sorry back up
all right i'll do a better job of
telling you when to flip
lifepoint is committed to continuing
maintaining the facility and invest in
new technology and equipment for the
community
health care needs the capital
investments from 2004 to 2019
included large projects related to
facility renovation and expansion
which includes the main entrance an icu
and ccu
our emergency department the med surg
wing
a cancer center central sterile and mri
but we may see less of those big
projects like that going forward
capital investment to be measured on a
cumulative basis for the life
to date of the lease next slide
we would eliminate the rolling
three-year average calculation
because it really doesn't consider that
projects may expand
multiple years and it actually requires
less of a capital investment
to define the capital investment to
include
all additions to the fixed assets the
major repairs under 25
000 the first 12 months of a new
physician cost
for any provider that we bring into the
community
in expansion of the electronic health
record and also would have
the specific reporting requirements to
the city and the county on an
annual basis of a report due by april
30th
and a cumulative capital investment like
today the least measured against a three
percent
capital investment requirement next
slide
this is a look back at the life to date
of the lease
today of the capital investment history
that has been made
from 2004 to 2019 the total capital
investment
has been 127 million 235 thousand
dollars
the capital investment requirement at
the four percent level
was 124 million 592
117 the average capital investment per
year that was required
i actually done was 8 million 482
the average capital investment required
per year was 8 million
306. i will take a pause there and
answer any questions from the mayor
or the city council members
thank you very much for that uh steve
looks like counselor sorg has a question
in counselor vasquez
um but before i get to them let me um
let me just ask you something real quick
so i i know that this was uh based on
four percent of net revenue
have you provided your gross revenues to
the city or county
so that we can verify that that a
percent or that amount that you've
invested
is is on task
we can certainly do that this is all
based upon our financial records
of the net revenue for those years from
2004 to 2019
when we we've also already done the
presentation to the county commissioners
and jumping ahead a little bit assuming
that the
council members and the mayor you're
you're agreeable to at least having more
discussions about this
it was decided at that meeting that we
could establish a work
group where we would review in more
detail
the history of what's happened on the
lease to date
which is when i could provide that
financial information
and we could discuss the talking points
that we've described here in more detail
but yes i can provide that information
and and i'm i'm just kind of uh
getting a few things uh brought to that
level
of discussion so that my colleagues can
be a little bit uh familiar with this
because this i don't to my knowledge not
even counselor sword
was on was on council when when this
lease was negotiated i was a
city council for district six back then
let me ask you one other thing
when right now do you have a
wing for mental uh mental patients
people with mental yes sir we have a we
have a 12 bed psych
adult psych unit we do not treat child
or adolescent
and geriatric uh patients are normally
sent to another
facility that we have transfer type
agreements with
and also what services were provided
back in o4
that are not being provided now if any
to my knowledge no services have been
eliminated
over the years if anything we've added
to
the service line okay and you can get a
you can get a um some type of uh
verification on that
uh as well as as well as the employees
how about that has it been a decrease
increase or has it stayed the same
since 2004 um no sir i would i would
venture to say i've only been here for
two years but i would venture to say
that we've
increased the ftes significantly our
total ft
count is up over 1400 now
okay and then the last thing before i
turn it over
the eight million dollars that you gave
the city in the county
of which we received four four million
of each
you had that for approximately how many
years before it was turned over to us
i don't know the exact term of how long
it had been held in escrow
but i know since my tenure here when i
arrived in late 2018
that was on a task list for
john and i to have resolved and we were
able to accomplish that
john do you remember how many years
you've had it
you know um i have no idea how many
years they had it i
would what i recall is what steve just
said and that was that we were tasked
to hand it over the concern at the time
was the liability that we would
have in the conditions in which it was
handed over and so once those
once the attorneys agreed to that we
were able to hand over the funds
it was actually clear and by the way i
want to go back to
what steve said earlier in the eight
years of my tenure as the ceo
we have eliminated none of the services
that were here
uh and we have expanded services
significantly
which has required us to significantly
expand the number of
ftes in other words employees
we now have for example 16 clinics
with about 80 doctors that are employed
and we were nowhere close to that when
when i
took over here plus we've added a picu
pediatric intensive care unit
we've expanded pediatrics in in many
ways and
a variety of other services uh and
recruited in
numerous doctors including specialties
that were not represented
in the region before so uh thank you for
that john so i actually met with you
when you first
when you when you first came on board
almost eight years ago about this eight
million dollars it was owed to us
my question is where was it sitting it
had already been been cleared by the way
it actually been there 10 uh 10 years
you've had it
um after 10 years it was clear two years
we've been waiting for it
and then we finally got it just a little
while ago actually it's been over
almost eight or nine years i just want
to know uh two things one where was it
kept
and the interest that was accrued for
all those years
i don't think it was given to the city
or county
we'd have to look that up that that was
handled by our attorneys
so we'd have to look up the details of
that okay
okay so uh with that i'll go to
counselor serge vasquez and flores
council resort thank you mr mayor
i just have one uh simple question
um concerning the
uh percentage of capital investment uh
that three or four percent um
is that re read as at least
three or four percent or up to
three or four percent or right exactly
at three or four percent
it's right at four percent we're taking
it as four percent
now and we're proposing it three percent
okay so you actually have spent more
than four percent in the past
how many years now the history um
so it's not it's these it must be at
least four percent instead of uh
exactly at four percent then right
our capital spending is not necessarily
totally limited by that four percent
that we're required to do
we are basing our span based on what the
needs of the facility
are and and how we can best utilize
those dollars that we have available to
us for
capital investments um some years we may
spend more than the
uh required amount of 8.3 million in
other years we may spend less
okay now that's what i thought at least
four percent
you want to change it to at least three
percent now okay
we'd like to calculate it based on a
cumulative life today to the least
which takes into account projects that
may span
several years
okay thank you very much mr harris thank
you mayor
welcome thank you thank you mayor
um thank you to our guests uh first i
have a question
uh perhaps for you mayor or for other
members of our staff here
the reason behind putting this capital
investment clause
in the lease was that to ensure
that the city has a viable facility
should lifepoint choose to cease
operations there or was that to make
sure that we had
a a well-refurbished um upgraded
uh facility medical facility while
lifepoint is there
what's the original reason for having
that in there i'll let the mmc discuss
and then i'll i'll come back oh okay
thank you
we know that without capital investment
and we can't continue the growth that
we've experienced in our net revenue
over these many years and it is our goal
and desire to want to be not just the
hospital
for the community of las cruces and the
county of donata
but also we are expanding our reach into
the
what we call our secondary market areas
which includes
giving silver city truth or consequences
alamogordo and south going into el paso
where we have clinics as well so we're
bringing
in patients from all those different
areas which are seeking
health care here and are spending those
dollars in this community while they're
here
so the investments that we're making in
capital are based on what we believe
are the key strategic needs for the
community
in order to continue to provide the kind
of health care services
of a regional health care system but i
think another
important point of this is creating the
flexibility
in the capital investment because
we on our own motivation have
have really worked not only to expand
the services
of this facility from a community
hospital is steve just mentioned to a
regional
major regional referral center for
southern new mexico
so to do that we we've had to diversify
services
not only in the breadth but also in the
depth of the services
and then beyond that everything is not
bricks and mortar there are years where
the focus is on bricks and mortar as as
a greater percentage
other times it can be software
applications the addition
the recruitment of doctors on average
that's about a half a million dollar
million dollars per physician we recruit
a lot of doctors here
set them up in practice uh and
a number of other things in other words
it's not just bricks and mortar it's
also other
other things that we have to invest in
in addition to that
the the tower itself is 50 years old
approximately so there are a number of
things that
are being done to maintain that facility
and the the age of the facility is one
of the reasons why we
we asked for the requirement for the
repairs and maintenance under 25 000.
anything under 25 000 is considered to
be
non-capital for us and we count that as
a repair and maintenance
but what we've done is very
strategically gone on to different units
and we may renovate a part of a unit
this year
under that 25 000 limit and the next
year we may expand that and that
renovation may be something simple as
just a fresh coat of paint
and new flooring and maybe doors and
windows and things like that but we want
to make sure that we're trying to keep
the
whole appearance of the hospital as
fresh and
new looking as possible you know i'll
mention
to the city council and to you mayor
that
we are one of the leading hospitals in
the state of new mexico in terms of
quality and safety in the accolades that
we have won
we've had near perfect joint commission
surveys that
are done every three years if you do
well on them
we are the only late prague a hospital
in all of southern new mexico
and one of two in the entire state we
have
certifications and accreditations in all
of our major programs from bariatrics to
cancer care
we're the only accredited very uh cancer
care program
uh not only in southern new mexico but
uh there isn't even one
in in el paso so we have decided to
uh our calling card at memorial medical
center will be on quality and on safety
of care
for our doctors their patients and for
our employees
and the accolades we've earned reflect
that
okay so thank you for that uh john so
so councilor vasquez uh if i recall the
reason why
um the city and county put that
requirement the four percent
improvement per year is i'll give you an
example so let's just say you took a
let's say you own a 200 000 building
whether it's a commercial building
well let's just say commercial because
commercials usually is uh
worn a little bit tougher than
residential so
so four percent of that would be 8 000
and that money could be you put aside or
be used for
say a roof um electrical
repair plumbing repair uh equipment in
this case equipment so remember
this is not just in adding on to the
hospital which they've done in the early
years
but it's also any equipment that they
purchase and so i think the city county
felt that four percent was a
was a decent amount to make sure that
not only was the hospital staying with
the
with the most up-to-date equipment but
also for possible expansion
because it was a very difficult time to
let go of the city
county owned hospital we still own it of
course but we lease it
so i guess if you think of it as a kind
of like a triple net lease we're
requiring them to
to fix the hospital add to it
and and and basically keep it functional
until the time that lease expires or we
decide to move in a different direction
yeah no that explains it really well
mayor and that's that's what i was i
think trying to get at in terms of
you know we're protecting the city's
asset in addition to
also ensuring that mmc has the dollars
to keep
to keep the facility up to date and
certainly with all the
uh improvements and technology and
accolades that you've received for
your service um i think both of those
are important but
i did just want to make sure that that
was one of the original negotiation
points in the terms of the lease was to
protect the city asset in addition to
the
obviously having a well-run up-to-date
hospital
um so thank you for that um i have a
question here about the
uh the investment and expansion of
health record technology
um i think that's a term that you want
to modify to allow this
um i guess what you're proposing which
would be now three percent
of all capital investment to go towards
the expansion of health record
technology
um and and going back to that
conversation mayor so this is not
necessarily a fixed asset this would be
something that
that life point i'm assuming would take
with them um
or that is proprietary to to life point
in license to life point
um so since we're moving um or or since
mmc would like to move away from some of
the brick and mortar
and move into um you know some of the
and i'll throw in there the physician
pay as well i think the cost for
recruiting a physician in the first year
um i just a little bit more explanation
on those
since i think those really move outside
of the capital investment realm in the
traditional sense
um if you could just talk a little bit
more about those two needs
yeah i did you know we recruit a lot of
doctors
annually and most of the doctors can't
survive in southern new mexico unless we
recruit employ and
and put them into practice so a number
that i would tell you on average is
about a half a million dollars some of
them are even more than that
when we recruit them so that's one
and when you look at plumbing repairs
electrical repairs under the current
definition
i don't believe those even fall under
capital investment
as we have it certainly software
applications like electronic medical
records uh when you when you invest in
those those are in the millions of
dollars
as are many of the other applications
that we have and use
not only in the hospital but also in
our physician employment component
so it it part of this this whole
argument
or not argument the discussion is about
being able to be flexible and nimble in
the market for use of capital
on average hospitals across the united
states in bricks and mortar are going to
invest two two and a half percent in
bricks and mortar
they will invest more than that perhaps
on average
when you start accounting for all of
these repairs
this year over the last 12 months alone
we have had to put a quarter of a
million dollars
into uh repair of pipes
in in the institution because they have
aged out they have a 50-year life and
after a period of time
because of the what they're they're made
of they
they have to be replaced and that list
goes on and on
uh elevators that are here today that
were put in in the 70s
there's about a four or five million
dollar cost of replacing those
um it won't be long before we get into
steve listed on the uh the slides that
were sent to you
we're going to uh replace
all of the operating rooms
ultimately will replace the emergency
room and so on
so it's it's a capital intensive
industry
but the definition that was included in
the original
document between us the asset purchase
agreement
didn't go far enough in qualifying or
defining
what these kinds of expenditures would
be and giving
a growth oriented administration like
this one is
and that means growth not only in the
facility but also
many of the other components that it
takes to really grow
a community hospital into
a major regional referral center
that just didn't it didn't uh anticipate
those kinds of expenditures we are no
longer going to operate
as we're really transitioning memorial
medical center into memorial health
an integrated health care system that
serves
all of southern new mexico that
encompasses not only the needs of las
cruces but gemini silver city alamogordo
truth or consequences and beyond
thank you so much a follow-up question
on that is if if mmc
if if you guys have currently spent more
i guess on average than four percent of
the capital investment
that's required in the lease per year on
the current items that are defined
within the lease uh wouldn't just adding
wouldn't diversifying what you can spend
that money increase your capital
investment needs um because it seems to
me like reducing it to three percent
and then diversifying it on what you can
what you can spend capital investment on
would really just be an increase in
costs and we'd be decreasing the
percentage
and again i don't think that we focus
necessarily on the fact that we only
have to do a four percent
investment in the facility today
our capital um strategic plan that we
develop every year and we
we have a like a five-year rolling plan
for capital so that we know what's
coming at us in terms of the end of life
on certain pieces of equipment or
facility upgrades that we want to do and
renovations
that need to occur over that time period
and we keep updating that every year so
we have that
on our radar as to what's coming before
us
for the future in terms of capital but
we don't look at it every year and say
well we only have to spend four percent
so that's all we're going to spend this
year
we base it on what we believe is
necessary in order to
meet the strategic plan that we have
designed
that is centered around how do we make
sure that the community
has the health care system that it needs
i hope that answers your question and
yes
by definition if we if we include those
other things
then we're going to be able to
demonstrate that yes we've made more of
an investment
but again i don't think that we're going
to necessarily slack off
or back off of what we want to do in
terms of continuing to
to grow the facility and be able to
offer the kind of services that this
community deserves
i don't i don't base the strategy of
this hospital and working with steve and
other officers of the hospital
on that percentage at all like bases on
the community
needs and the the opportunity that we
see
uh in this area to to grow
i i you know our feeling is is that
we're more comfortable given the
dynamics of the marketplace in
healthcare in the state of new mexico
uh as uh and i'm the chairman of the
board for all the hospitals in the state
of new mexico as i am
the chairman elect for the medical
school here
we're more comfortable at the 3
range but certainly equally important
is expanding the definition of capital
investment because
like i said earlier it's not always
going to be about bricks and mortar
i have a similar uncleanliness on
the appearance of this facility both
inside and out
excuse me you excuse me john you're kind
of
can you move closer to the microphone
please you're yeah
i'm also um i'm the i'm a stickler not
only on
uh on the uh on the cleanliness of the
facility
inside and out but also
very much involved in development of
services
for this region and
to do that you need we need more
flexibility i believe
in terms of how we how we define capital
investment
because like i said it's going to be
bricks and mortar some years but other
years it's going to be
other other priorities recruitment of
doctors putting them into practice the
related losses and you'll
you will lose money on every doctor that
you put into practice
or annual loss on with doctors is 10
million over 10 million dollars a year
in terms of managing
these practices but you wouldn't have
doctors in southern mexico if you didn't
have someone doing that
and other times it's software
applications for
electronic medical records and so on
so both components are really very
important
thank you i really appreciate that
answer and and let me also just say i
really appreciate all the mmc and really
the health
as you mentioned the health network that
you're building does for our community
here in our region
um so let me just say that i guess i'm
just trying to figure out if
uh
looks like he's spending more than the
four percent we're adding new
yes and we're adding new investments um
you know just how how that ultimately
shakes out with even a reduced capital
investment uh percentage that you're
proposing
it seems that maybe if we reduce to
three percent then you have one percent
more of operational budget that could go
toward health record technology and
physician recruitment and it wouldn't
even need to go under
necessarily a capital investment since
you'll you'll have that additional money
in your budget
unless it has something to do with with
how you how you budget each year
i think also it has more to do with
yeah i'm sorry i think it has more to do
with
getting the definition into an amended
lease agreement
and we can work out those details as to
as to the dollar amount
um that for instance if the city in the
county said
to us we'll accept the new definitions
but we want to put a cap on what you can
include as far as that four percent or
that three percent goes
um so that you can include
everything so that they're still you're
still
asking us to make a commitment in true
um equipment
and building improvements as well as
potentially new
new buildings i think there could be a
mix in there
okay um thank you i i appreciate that
and i i would just need to learn so much
more
i think to i and you know better you run
the you run the health system you're in
the hospital but these are just
uh good good um starter questions just
for me to understand this a little bit
more so i appreciate it
um what would you say is the pro the
primary impetus for
for changing this capital investment
uh clause in this lease is it is it's a
more competitive you recruit physicians
is it to be able to diversify
the type of expenses that you have that
are not fixed assets
in a changing kind of medical healthcare
world
um is it to allow some of those small
repairs that you mentioned
that are not covered for under 25 000
a mix of all of those what's that what's
the
it it thank you for the question it
really is a mix of all of them and i
think versatility
is is right in there but you know three
percent is more competitive with what is
being done
nationally but i one thing i can tell
you is that we're not going to take our
foot off the gas pedal of developing
memorial medical center into a major
regional referral center
and that includes refurbishing the
patient tower
in addition to we we also have created a
wound care center in the past
it's free standing we've maintained the
health flex
we've set up an ent office a
freestanding office and i could go on
and on
and uh it really is just giving us more
flexibility in how we channel capital
towards the goals of this institution
let me also
help put that into perspective in a
different way
we have a vested interest in making sure
that we can continue to grow the net
revenue which requires
the type of capital investments that
we've made in the past which has gotten
us
from point a to point b here today
where we've seen significant growth in
the overall operations of the hospital
but if we were to try to replace this
facility today
at 200 beds at an at a national average
cost of 1.6 million dollars per bed
we would be looking at anywhere from 350
to 400 million dollars to try to replace
this facility
so it is in a in our better interest
to try to maintain the facility the best
extent we possibly can
even given the fact that the building
building is now approaching 50 years old
we've got to do what we can every single
day and
since facilities reports to me some
mornings i wake up with news
that we've that we have a chiller that
that's on
on its last leg and we're going to try
to repair it one more time and we've got
elevators that need to be replaced and
and we've got end of life equipment that
is happening and everything
everything we're doing in healthcare
lately seems to be expensive in terms of
capital
so to john's point doing all of this
just allows us that
diversification of how we can allocate
dollars on a year-to-day
basis but also report
to the city and the county on an
annualized basis
of what's happening to their facility
thank you and when you don't i think you
mentioned
that there's been years where you
haven't spent the full four percent on
capital investment
and others where you've spent more if
you don't spend
the four percent on capital investment
annually is that
does that remaining whatever's left in
that percentage fund
does that roll over to the next year's
um
capital investment fund or where what
happens to that money if it doesn't get
spent all the way up to that percentage
point
we look at it on a cumulative life today
to the lease and we
and we're measuring it and that was
that's what i'm proposing that we put
into the lease amendment is that we look
at it on a commit
cumulative life today to the lease to
see how
in those years where we maybe spent less
dollars it was because in a previous
year for instance we might have spent 11
million dollars on a new part of the
building
and we had less of a need in the
following years for certain things
but then the next year or the year
following after that year where we
didn't
necessarily invest we might have gone
over so it really
again we don't look at the four percent
in in isolation and just say
oh that's all we got to do this year so
that's all we're going to do
we look at it as what is it going to
take in order to make sure that this
operation
stays very viable and it is a place
where people in this community truly
want to seek health care
i guarantee you if there are a lot of
facilities that aren't maintaining their
facilities
and the people in those communities go i
don't want to go to that hospital
because
i don't feel like it's safe i don't feel
like it's clean i don't feel like it's
nice
and they don't have the services that i
need and when healthcare dollars begin
to leave a community
other dollars tend to track with them as
well and we want to make sure that we're
attracting people to this community from
those outlying
secondary market areas in particular and
we have really grown that volume this
past year
thank you and one last question for me
before handing it off to my colleagues
here
uh if the if the term on the lease was
changed to three percent for capital
investment
um that additional one percent
uh about a quarter of the capital
investment which i think is about two
two million two and a half million
dollars maybe per year
uh what would mmc would do with that
additional revenue
if it's not considered revenue we pay
for the capital
out of our net out of our net revenue
and out of our earnings for sure
but it wouldn't necessarily mean that we
would set it aside into a fund or
anything else
again we're going to look at our
strategic mission and decide where our
capital spend needs to be
for the next year or for the next five
years following that
okay so it'd be part of you budgeted
into your overall
non-capital investment budget since
you'd have that
money essentially not um tangled up in
this clause
so i guess i was just wondering is there
a specific need for that two and a half
million you've identified or so that
you'd be getting back that you don't
have to spend on capital investments if
we lowered to three percent
no
okay thank you mayor thank you those are
my questions for now
thank you councillor flores
thank you mr mayor i um and thank you
gentlemen for your
presentation and thank you uh dear
colleagues for your excellent questions
it uh demystified uh some of the
questions or
to an extent some of the questions i
have but um
i think i have to say preliminarily
uh the mayor asked a question about what
what happened to the money
that wasn't paid when it should have
been paid to the city
as the least you as a lessee we as a
the city as the lusore um and you
weren't able to answer it mr
uh weight uh you indicated that you'd
have to
have your attorneys look at this and
that that to me um is troubling
and also in light of the fact that
you're asking
uh for a modification at least that
would benefit and
be more money for you to carry out
uh services to the community
that i just have to say preliminarily is
troubling to me
i think that before i would in any way
vote to um to agree to your
um provisions in the lease
your clauses and lease i would need to
see that information
um and you also stress that you are
very much wanting to spread services
um and you keep emphasizing that it's
capital improvements at the same time
you're saying that you're extending
services but by extending services
you're necessarily even if you're moving
away from the brick and mortar
you're going to have um expenses that
are capital improvements
and then um so
so my my concern here is that
um there is knowledge here that
um the um
the city excuse me the the hospital
makes referrals and um
and i think that there was there may
have been some expenditures
expenditures in connection with a
facility called
turning point and um that facility has
been known to be
very anti-abortion and and it doesn't
matter what my standards this has
nothing to do with
how i feel about abortion uh pro con
you know whatever in between it's not
that's not the issue the issue here is
that
if if if the if mmc is in fact
um facilitating or in any way
uh referring or facilitating or funding
that facility i i don't want to be a
part of it
and in the event that turning point is
being supported
i i'd like to see what sort of referrals
you're making because if you're saying
that it's
for the purpose of helping the community
and spreading services all over the
community
all over southern new mexico it seems
i think that we should know exactly what
facilities you're funding and what sort
of services are being
extended to our community and
and i do not fully understand why you
want to reduce the four percent to three
percent
um and again if we can't have an if we
can't have a clear explanation of where
all
how that money was spent in years that
we weren't paid
um i i have to tell you preliminarily
um this doesn't sound very good to me
thank you gentlemen thank you mr mayor
thank you john stark um before i get to
mayor pro tem let me just
just share for the rest of the council
basically and this is just off memory
recall
how the breakdown went let's just say it
was around 70 million
40 million went to the city and county
and that's i guess you could equate it
to a million dollars a year
20 million went to what they call ibnr
incurred but not reported so these were
claims that
this is where that 8 million came from
these were claims that
weren't reported but we knew throughout
the years was going to happen
and i believe they maybe spent around 12
million of the 20
and that's where their 8 million refund
came and then there was about another 10
million set aside for the employees give
or take it may
that may be kind of high because see the
city the the
mmc employees before we moved over to
this
lease they were quasi governmental and
they actually got the same
similar benefits that city and county
employees got and so we made sure that
they were left whole
you know because imagine if they had 18
years in or 17 years in and then we
lease it that was unfair for them and so
that this money was meant to make them
whole so that they would wouldn't lose
on their retirement
so that's how that that that chunk came
out
it was about 10 years ago because
remember it been 16 years so
after that first six years or so uh
the lawyers felt that it was done
they had approved they go ahead and
release the money and eight years later
is when we got it
and so i was looking for was the
interest that where that eight million
stayed for for eight years and then
second keep in mind
if you're not comfortable because i'm
not comfortable renew
looking at this lease we used some
um a consulting firm from back east who
was an expert in this and that's how we
came up with this and so
my suggestion if we move forward and
it's okay to move forward
you know we're going to try to be
helpful here but but
i i think we can also make sure that we
hire someone who's used to doing this
hospital leases so they can go through
and take a look and make sure that what
we're doing is is
is is good uh
mayor mayor pro-tem gandra
thank you mayor um thank you gentlemen
for your presentation
i very much appreciate
um the service that you um provide to
our community
um and and so i'm sorry can you hear me
mayor
yes so we can hear you okay um
i i'd like to um request a couple of
things and this is more
more to staff mayor i think we need to
have a history
again like you said none of us were on
council
but you and um it is
unfair to ask specifically to
you know all the things that are being
asked without having a history so i
would like staff
to come up with a powerpoint
presentation and that would give us the
history or
some narrative i think that is really
important
now i realize that we've probably have
lost
a lot of institutional knowledge um
with retiring and having you know
mr garza leave who probably
was responsible for some of this maybe
not i don't i don't know but
um i think a history is helpful i want
to see i would like to see the lease
um um gentlemen i would like to see
the number of capital projects that you
have done
and it's cost specifically to that main
building
you have indicated that
capital improvements and or building of
other buildings
and the perimeter right up in that in
your property
i don't believe is included in
what you're required to do within the
four percent correct
we count it as everything related to
memorial medical center
the operation of memorial medical center
okay so not just the building the
the main building correct
because the property around us is all
part of the memorial medical center
okay all right thank you for answering
that i really appreciate that
i i was not um aware and bear with me
and the rest of us we have like new
council here and i
this is some of the first times that
this has come to our attention
um so um
i i so you talked about this five-year
strategic plan specific to capital
capital improvements would that be
something that you'd be willing to share
with us
in terms of seeing what your vision is
and uh
what's necessary for improvement
yeah forward yeah we can we can share
highlights of that plan for sure
because it's fairly comprehensive sure i
understand we have a capital
outlay um
plan here and it's um
very complicated right so i i can
appreciate
that understand that so i for me i just
feel like i need more information
um rather than less um the other thing
is i
i have appreciated again like i said
what you've been
what you have been what you mean to our
community
um and this idea of assisting and
recruiting physicians at least the first
year
salary i would definitely agree to i
think that is
very important um gentlemen i don't know
if you're
aware but i have formed a group it's
called resilience leaders
and it's how we um working with trauma
right children and
families that have trauma that goes
undetected and untreated
and about a um two years ago i had
reached out to
counselor ekman to assist me in
um recruiting some folks from mmc
and the other hospitals to sit on this
specific group
to fast forward to about a year ago we
did
we actually implemented a survey
disseminated that survey we received a
little
less than 1200 respondents and in in
that
in the information that we that we
received around medical care
i'm i'm deeply concerned about and some
of that
is about what you're talking about right
um
um recruiting and retaining physicians
um making sure that our physicians stay
here stay here for longer periods of
time
having a wait period for specialty
um physicians it was
enormous and i'm happy to share that
information because i think it could
definitely
play a pivotal role in what you already
know
but it's something that um this group
that we've done
that we have come together once a month
um to speak to these
to these issues around access so i
definitely would be in agreement to
paying for
or or changing the the
the requirements to fit you know that
need i think that
is something that we we certainly need
to
um to think about um especially when we
had dr bayatas do
the presentation and what we've like
we've agreed i think as council is to
focus our attention on our healthcare
industry right how do we bring
um quality um folks
into the medical field and that includes
the hospital
i took a lot of notes let's see
let me move through that
yeah um as far as um
the electronic record can you talk to me
a little more about what that would
entail
this is anything that we don't include
as part of our capitalization
policy which is anything greater than 25
000 is normally capitalized
but for instance to do an interface
between
our chr and a referring provider
especially like out in the outlying
areas where we're trying to draw those
patients
into this community to continue to help
support the organization
and also meet their health care needs
that interface could be anywhere from 10
to thousand dollars
it allows us to exchange back and forth
the information about that patient that
we're going to treat
and also it allows easier access for
that referring physician
to not have to be here on site to find
out what's going on
with this patient he may refer that
patient to one of our hospitalist groups
or to another specialist here in town
and
that specialist will take care of them
admit the patient discharge them
but that a lot will allow that referring
position in that other community and
it's not just limited to the outlying
areas
because we also do that with our own
internal position groups that we have
where they can look at the record as
appropriate
under all the guidelines
to see what's going on yes okay so
this would be um so
um one of the other conversations that
is is
happening in our community and i'm sure
that you're aware especially
around our behavioral health providers
is this idea of a universal um
electronic right um platform
that um the the all of us in our
in our community could share um and
i i man if you i
if you could help us do that um it's not
only
for from the from the behavioral health
sector but the medical doctor
um having this universal electronic
um record i think would be
so helpful um again following the
guidelines
as you have you said mr weingart but
um it i think if if you are
um interested in those discussions i
think that
that would be something i could get on
board
with for sure um lastly
um can you tell me what um the roles and
responsibilities
as mayor indicated i guess we own the
facility we lease it out to you
so what are the responsibility as far as
um the city in terms of
of um i guess facility
understanding what is going on in our
own facility
in terms of like do we get to go
in there and inspect that building or
what
i don't know what the guidelines suggest
i think anytime that any of the mayor or
any of the council members would
like to have a tour of the hospital and
to get an update as to what's going on
especially some of the project work that
we've done over the years
john and i both would welcome that
opportunity to have you visit with us
um we might even be able to make that
happen under all these covet guidelines
that we've got going on right now
even though we're not doing the visit or
piece of it but um
uh but yes you're welcome to come in and
take a look at the facility and see
what's going
on i think that would be ideal
well actually you know to give you more
specificity about that
we've had an open board meeting every
year since the inception of the asset
purchase agreement
the you have both the city manager and
the county manager
that sit on the board of trustees of
this hospital and have attended the
meetings regularly
they also participate in what we call
executive patient safety rounds that are
conducted throughout the institution
so while they may not take a tour uh
every board meeting
of the hospital or for that matter the
the free standing facilities that we
have
they're traveling around through the
hallways of the hospital
from time to time at the board meetings
prior to covet
19 happening and seeing what the
facility looks like
but to arrest maybe some of your fears
about that i've dealt with the joint
commission over the four and a half
decades that i've been running acute
medical surgical hospitals
and when the joint commission comes in
they have in both cases in the
three-year surveys that have been done
they have said are compliments to this
administration
for the way that you have maintained an
older facility
in extremely clean conditions and
they've seen
what that does what that translates into
surgical infection rates which are very
low how we deal with septicemia
and c-diff and other other major patient
harms that are tracked nationally
and we have participated in a program
historically with duke healthcare system
that has made us one of the leading
large complex hospitals within life
point
in terms of the results that we have
achieved in such a short
period of time so you have a lot as a
city in the county
uh i think to be proud of in this
institution
i will also tell you to your point that
you brought up about
providing providers to
this community to come in many forms but
uh
to the extent that we're we could talk
about physicians we have an end to
one of the oldest independent residency
programs
in family practice in the state of new
mexico
and over 70 percent of those providers
when they matriculate from this program
stay in the state of new mexico to
practice
so we also have a very strong
affiliation as i mentioned earlier i'm
the chairman elect of the medical school
board
as i am the chairman of all the
hospitals in the state of new mexico
and we work hand in glove with the the
medical school
specifically for their medical students
to shadow
our phys our medical staff uh
as we have our uh residents in our own
independent residency program
shadowing our positions so we work daily
to keep uh providers in new mexico
here and that includes nurse
practitioners and other advanced trained
personnel
like physician assistants we also
provide
substantial scholarships for local
residents
so that they can attend uh nursing
school whether it be at nmsu or the
community college or elsewhere within
the state
thank you mr really it i i am proud of
what you've
you've been able to accomplish here i
don't think there
is a fear from my from my end other than
i
i again please understand i feel like a
bit
behind the eight well i don't have a lot
of information
about what the lease says and maybe i
i'm so
we have a facilities um department right
so for each of our facilities that we
have situations like this
that we lease out i want to know what is
our role in responsibility ensuring that
the maintenance is keeping
you know that we are we are um
um we are meeting um
the needs of that particular lease i i
just i've not seen it so i don't know
and that was really my question
um i've been in your facility a few
times i have been
at your yearly function i was there last
year right before
covet hit um and i was really excited
about
um the the points that you made and the
improvements that you wanted to see
happen moving forward
um and so again i i appreciate that i
i will if you'd like um i'd like to
share
um this survey that we worked with new
mexico state universities
um
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i always forget their names but i'm
sorry
it's the center for community analysis
at new mexico state university that
helped
with the survey so i i'd be happy if
i don't want to flood your emails
because i know you probably get
a tremendous amount of email but it's a
good report
and and something that that i think we
need to refer to and really consider as
many folks who answered that felt like
you know waiting lists are too long
especially around specialty care um
you know the quality of care um it
is sometimes a concern and i'm not
saying that specific to mmc i know that
accolades um
and i know of i have family members that
have um been in your hospital and have
been very pleased with your service so
um for me it was more about what is our
role
as a city in terms of that facility or
do we have any
i don't know because i haven't seen the
lease that's my question
and maybe it's more for staff
well you know what i would suggest is
that
regardless of defining that role from
the city or for that matter of the
county
we're an open book we're very
transparent about
what we've done and what we what we plan
to do as we've tried to be in this
conversation
and let me also add that the study that
you performed
uh we we do a lot of work with
new mexico state university uh
with john uh dan arizuman and john
flores
uh i serve on the medical school board
with both of those gentlemen have great
deal respect for them
and what they're doing and we would love
to see the results of your survey
and if there's something that we can do
to work with you to better this
community
and the surrounding area we'd love to
see what we can do
with that so maybe we can do a sidebar
to meet with you individually to talk
about that survey and what we can do
together
sure thank you so much i appreciate i
appreciate that and
i am i would be open to a working group
i think that
is an important next step with the
county
and or a joint meeting with the county
so that we can
really um you know dig into what it is
that what our vision is for really
um that facility moving forward and
health care so thank you thank you thank
you mayor pro tem and
i'll share something with you all after
counselor ben cuomo and then
um see what you all think about that
councilman cuomo
thank you mayor um and thanks to my
colleagues for the wonderful questions
and before i jump in here i just want to
say you know thank you to mmc for
the way you've stepped up for a
community during this pandemic i think
it's been
you know important that i say that and
in addition to
you know having this vision to provide
medical services
toward you know across the borderlands
which is something that's really
important and necessary and so
let me just say thank you to that um i
also
i'm you know as a new counselor i'm also
feeling like
i am missing a whole lot of historical
context
and then um you know in order to
to make a decision in any way shape or
form and so i would absolutely be open
to
you know i was sitting here thinking
like wow how silly
i should have asked for this information
before today things happen how they
happen
you know but i'm obviously not the only
one so if i would have asked for
something individually from staff when
clearly
perhaps this information should be
shared with all of us i think that's
really
critical in addition to i would like to
um mayor second sort of what you were
talking about in terms of bringing in an
external
entity that could review some of this
and and help us make that decision
um you know on one hand i really i think
i understand
that um the need to be competitive right
come
you know and and remain competitive in
this market
and ensure and frankly that really leads
to better quality of care for
for um patients so i think ultimately at
the end of the day that's a good thing
um i just would like to know the you
know
um the longer term consequences or
outcomes of a decision like this
um to be honest with you i think
probably most of my
questions um would be would be more
internal anyway
um the one thing i do want to ask for
there's a couple things i want to ask
for sure but
one for staff or you mayor is you know
you know we have this telstra fund that
is my understanding comes from the lease
of
of the hospital property would that be
impacted by
a decision like this four to three
percent it
not at all no no they paid us up front
that's where the 40 million came from
and
and i think it was based on basically a
million a year for 40 years and that's
where we came
40 million we split at 20 and 20. said
he got 20
county got 20. okay i don't know unless
john and steve are trying to want some
of that money back i don't know if i
heard that part
no no okay thank you mayor right that's
just
sort of for my understanding as well um
and then for you gentlemen i guess you
know one of my
biggest questions is how how has kova 19
and the pandemic really impacted you on
the business end
how has it impacted you in terms of the
you know your capital improvement plan
um
it's been a tough year so i'm curious to
hear from you on that
well it's it's it's affected us
adversely in a very significant way
we have uh we're a hub hospital for
southern new mexico
i should say we're the hospital
for southwestern uh new mexico and much
of
southeastern many of the cases that
they've incurred
are transferred here certainly deming
silver city
truth or consequences alamogordo and
sometimes beyond
when you shut down elective surgery
uh as one of the key cash flow uh
pipelines of a hospital
and in addition to maintaining much of
the operating expenses you're gonna do
damage financially to an
institution but we are recovering
and we have put a greater priority on
acting responsibly for the people of
southern new mexico than anything else
making sure that we have enough personal
protection equipment
for our doctors and for our uh our
employees
and to keep the patients safe and to
keep each other safe
we have cooperated properly at a very
high level
with the governor with the uh
the secretary of health uh and and
others uh i've done that both from a
statewide basis as well as a local basis
on behalf of memorial medical center and
certainly everyone around me has done
that but yeah
we're trying like every other acute
medical surgical hospital in the state
to recover financially
uh from what we've gone through and we
still continue to go through it
but we're recovering i don't want to i
don't want to overstate that or
understate it
we're realistic and we're very can do
oriented people and
we're going to continue on our journey
to make this a major regional referral
center for this part of the country
yeah great thanks so much um you're
welcome
i really don't have much else mayor like
i said i feel like i'm just
like i'm missing a ton of truthful
information but
you know for me at the end of the day i
think whatever
looking at all this from multiple angles
will be important
and making sure that at the center of
whatever we decide is community and
and the health of our community so um
that's certainly how i plan to
make this decision but would love to
hear from
um definitely our partners at the county
and then like you said mayor
um an external expert well i think thank
you counselor i think matt holt
is still around and he was the his law
firm and he himself were the
was a main facilitator of this and so we
may be able to
i think he teaches at the university but
we may be able to bring him back and
and see some things but let me just let
me just ask some questions of you john
and steve
so the let me ask you have are there any
models hospitals that actually have a
maybe more than a wing but basically a
facility for behavioral health mental
health
um even if it's similar to a state run
is that is that any model that you're
aware of anything like that
exists in addition
i'm not sure i'm not sure i understand
your question i think you're speaking to
the under
bedding of behavioral health in the
region
but you're asking if there are acute med
surg hospitals that have wings dedicated
to behavioral health
right i mean a large a larger one i mean
like uh
you you have what eight beds maybe at
your place no we have uh
12 that are dedicated to that and we
refurbished that unit
let's say think about a year and a half
ago yeah let's say
like a 30 bed facility is that something
there that you've
you've seen any models that have you
know something that's fairly large
because i think
the facility in las vegas is how many
bed oh
i've never seen that facility i don't
know
uh i could find that out for you mayor
but do you
do you are you aware of any models that
have that large
yes in fact i i yes i i there are models
where there are hospitals that have
entire wings that are dedicated
we have an entire wing that's dedicated
to behavioral health it just happens to
have
12 beds and you know those
that's where footage doesn't accommodate
just
actual patient treatment areas per se it
also accommodates offices for
providers of behavioral health and that
is precisely what we had
when i arrived here eight years ago
we've maintained that throughout my
tenure
okay in fact we've improved on okay
and i i think you spend on average about
eight million dollars a year
on per the lease correct
give or take yeah okay yeah so
and then because it's so antiquated
you're probably spending another two
million
in addition probably uh probably in your
utilities i mean to keep it cool to keep
it
warm to keep it hot yeah you know i
would think
so we spend a quarter of a million
dollars a month may or just some
electricity
yeah i figured it i i guess they made it
two million so okay that's more
so this is my this is my thought process
here and
if you had a new hospital a brand new
hospital
i think uh like say a 400 million dollar
hospital
would you be okay with your with your
current commitment at four percent
for the first couple of years of a new
hospital you you usually don't have to
spend those kinds of dollars
but over time and probably that time is
about
five years into the life of a new
hospital you begin to see
a couple of things one is you want to
expand
services so you need more capital
dollars for that you gotta you gotta
buy equipment that you maybe didn't
contemplate when you built the facility
the first time so you've got to invest
in
that um i wasn't expecting that kind of
answer but
but let me just tell you where i'm going
all right
the council has this uh as do i
a wish to be able to have another
facility here in southern new mexico
for those who need uh mental health
behavioral health
and i just you know right now money is
very
inexpensive we can borrow at one percent
and so i
i ran a number a 550 million dollar
facility would cost 1.8 million a month
debt service
you guys are used to paying about eight
to ten million a year if you could
continue paying what you're doing
and and the state can kick in 10 million
and then this is the thing move it to
the and we'd have to annex it but move
it to across the street
to the university and work on
arrangement with burrell
so it'd be almost like a facility
university um and then and then we could
have that built
sitting county still to own it and then
we'll uh
we'll deal with the old hospital later
and then basically you'd be spending
about what you're spending now
we we of course wouldn't be spending
anything we'll just we'll just
be the fiscal agent and whatever and
then
and then um the hospital pays us
uh 10 million a year or so to to
for the debt service and then we just
and and then maybe you need more to
run the to staff it
but that way there we get in on a
fraction of it
as opposed to the 200 million that
they'd have to spend to build a hospital
down here
what i'm trying to get at is an
all-in-one university
private and this and then also
contracting with the state for for
mental health is that something you'd
even consider
instead of uh and then we would just
lease it back to you
i think that uh maybe in an offline
conversation
i can explore that more with you but one
of the biggest challenges
that all providers are facing now
with mental health in particular is the
lack of reimbursement and support
from the various states particularly for
the medicaid
and for medicare to fund the mental
health
programs as well as the managed care
organizations like the blue crosses
united healthcare and those
there is a continuum of care that i have
a personal belief in for
mental health and that is it's not just
the inpatient bed that you've got to
have
you have to have the outpatient
resources for those folks to be able to
follow
up and to continue so that you don't
have the risk of readmissions but this
is something that can be explored
maybe a network session that we would
have in a little bit more detail
yeah you know if my colleagues are
interested
uh this way here uh and then of course
you know that facility reverts back to
us
that that where you're at and then we
choose to do whatever we do whether we
sell it
we lease it to another facility
um and then whatever income comes in
that's ours so i guess what i'm trying
to say is
we can turn this into a money-making
venture for the city and county
you guys but then you also get a new
hospital and work with the university
and
and burrell and uh and the state
so we can we can we'd be very interested
in talking
about that we've like i said you know
we've um we found dan arvizu and
john flores great people to work with
and gary carruthers before them
uh and dan howard the the uh we've tried
to maintain a very close
partnership with new mexico state
university
and certainly with burrell since
inception
and frankly others uh mayor we'd we'd be
delighted to get together with you and
talk about it further in a work group
beyond
what we're talking about today wouldn't
that help with recruitment of doctors as
well if they had a place that they could
almost even do their residency at
unquestionably and it would complement
everything
up to this point that that we've done i
mean i i
we have recruited in outstanding
positions in almost every major
specialty
uh that require an additional capital
intensity but
everyone loves to work in a beautiful
hospital
there's no question about it i you know
i
really think there's enormous potential
for this hospital
and like i said i've only worked in it
for eight years
but i'm very business development
oriented very quality oriented
uh as is the team i have a highly
experienced team with steve and
karen iverson who's uh karen's the
you know you have the president you have
the chairman of the board of all the
hospitals in the state and you have the
president of all the nurses in the state
in this one hospital and uh
which is highly unusual
if i had a hospital that looked like the
quality of care that takes place within
it
it would be an unmatched strength
okay well you know i'm just just trying
to take advantage of these low interest
rates one percent is incredible
what we're used to paying is five and if
we if we were back in those days
um the debt service would be a million
dollars more a month
that's 12 million more a year and and i
based this out over 30 years that's 360
million dollars more so i guess what i'm
trying to get at is if we can work
on something it might be really
beneficial for all involved yeah
yeah i agree um
did counselor florida and mayor pro tem
gander did you have your hands up or did
you forget to put them down
sorry mayor okay no problem sorry
um so
okay so um
let's get with our colleagues at the
county and see what how they want to
move
in this direction whether they want to i
don't even know what what
took place from their meeting or if you
want to give us a recap
but i really think that one we ought to
take a look at
hiring an outsider to take a look at the
lease or
and or when you have if you want to have
that discussion
um about this uh maybe a newer facility
like i said across the street we're
gonna have to bring in the university to
lease us that land
we'd like to of course have it annexed
so that we can get the gross receipts
tax
into the city uh let's still be owned by
the cap by the university
that's fine 99-year lease and off we go
there i would propose that a select
group of individuals from the city
uh the county is already amenable to
doing this as well they're going to have
a select group of individuals selected
to come together as a joint working
group to go through the more details of
the lease amendment
and propose something back to the full
city council and the full county
commissioner group
on the results of those negotiations and
with the outside consultant involved as
well uh
i think they were going to talk about
bringing in the attorney for the county
to be as part of that work group
so and john and i are available to
work with those individuals on an as
needed basis to come up to the final
terms and conditions
of any proposed lease amendment
um i don't know if uh uh dave if any of
our staff have
have a copy of the lease i know i've got
it somewhere
i have some here and there you know i
kept it i knew it would someday be
important to keep but if you happen to
have it it wouldn't
it'd be nice to at least send some of
that information to the caller
excuse me it's barbara deleon yes um
staff
uh in land management have actually been
gathering that documentation
back to the mmc lease
we have a voluminous amount of
documentation related to it
okay um and just for the for my
colleagues basically what was happening
reason why we leased it is because it
was getting to the point where
it was really hard to run as a as a a
one-man show
i mean the economies of scale was such
that when you
partner with a larger facility and and
and john i'm sorry you guys work for who
now what's the name of the company
life point but that's not my point
health that's not the original one that
we
leased it to was it you i believe you
originally leased it to province
and prominence was acquired by lifepoint
okay
that's how i knew it had changed uh and
so we knew that by going with a larger
facility economies and scales would be
such that
that would make it more viable because
if we didn't do what we did
you were going to see us probably having
the county was probably
both we're going to have to raise taxes
to continue to offset the losses that we
were experiencing
that's why we did it we didn't want to
do it but we
we were faced with either keep raising
taxes or work in arrangement and that's
how we came up with this lease
and it was a big deal well you're
exactly you're exactly right mayor
that's
that is true to make your point
even more specific the there are three
out of the four hospitals that surround
us that are in various uh
states of bankruptcy or near bankruptcy
the only financially viable hospital
independently
owned of the four is alamogordo
a quorum that manages and owns and
manages
deming is in chapter 11 silver city has
now been reduced
from a 70 bed hospital to a critical
access
they had significant problems at tvc
and allen bordeaux as i said remains
viable
these hospitals are very challenging in
this day and age
to keep financially viable and but most
important to offer
high quality safe uh care to the
citizens
and that's really what we've been about
here is
is uh achieving high quality safe care
and keeping this in a financially viable
way this hospital received the highest
award out of 88
hospitals in all of life point health
for its
its ability to work with quality and
safety
working with his employees working with
the community
maintaining his financial viability and
so on
we received the top award in the entire
company for that
and you earn that it's not given to you
so we're proud of our record but we know
we have a lot more to do for the people
of southern new mexico
well i think that speaks volumes for the
management team such as yourself and
your team so congratulations
thank you okay so
i guess then we'll go ahead and come up
with um
come up with a committee to work with
our colleagues there at the county
um we'll look at getting that
information on
the lease to to my colleagues and then
we'll set up another time
to discuss um we're going to probably
going to have to bring in
the university and burrell see if what
would
and the state really i mean to see if
they're even amenable but i don't see
why they wouldn't be but i think this
would be the
this would be ideal would you say mayor
protem if we could do that
oh yes mayor i know that i've been
having detailed conversations with the
governor's office
and with larry haran our lobbyists
since last year as you know it's been
part of our
we've wanted to see part of our
strategic plan
for one of our and and so
just we i was going to begin really
um pushing along and then covet hit and
it's just we know i understand a more
serious conversation with the governor's
office related to that but they were
very interested in it
and wants to see how how they can
how they can help make it happen good
okay um again i'm just gonna
council flores did you have a question
or
no i don't okay just just uh
all right all right gentlemen um was it
david did you say theo did you have
something you wanted to say
or you just popped on no mayor i i've
got the next
minute so oh okay all right
okay uh mr harris uh mr weingart
weingarten is that how you pronounce it
yes sir okay okay
all right well we appreciate it very
much and again and
i joined my colleagues and saying thank
you for the
wonderful job you guys have done there
at there at mmc and providing
quality health care to our residents
here
and maintaining the mission that we were
we were hoping to maintain and i think
you've all
have achieved it it was a it was a
challenge
i i remember i could still remember
those meetings and there was a lot of
residents that were really concerned why
we were doing this but
the bottom line we could see the writing
on the wall and thank you for sharing
those
uh those you know those unfortunate
situations of our
surrounding hospitals but we knew that
only
one only one way to get out of this is
either what we did here or
just start raising taxes to pay off that
debt
okay all right well thank you very much
for your time we really appreciate it
and appreciate the transparency of the
candor and
uh we're going to continue to be your
partner sir thank you very much we stand
ready to help
all right well we'll be in touch okay
thank you
thank you thank you okay so the next
item is 3.2
the the geo bond projects overall update
mr david sedillo and tony trevino are
going to
make the presentation well good
afternoon
mayor and council my name is david savio
i'm the interim public works director
for the record
and i will be going over the
presentation this afternoon for the
geobond projects
uh one thing before we start though just
a couple
of items to note is this presentation
was scheduled to be before
council in the work session at the end
of march
but unfortunately due to covid when the
health order hit that did not go through
and as as you all know the city got
really busy on focusing how
we were going to move forward with for
our community on addressing
the the pandemic so with that i also
wanted to let you know
is that we will also be coming back to
council with quarterly reports
throughout the completion of the program
itself
so with that i'll go ahead and start to
share my screen
that way we can move on with the
presentation thank you
okay thank you
it was mentioned this is going to be our
our
geo bond program update
so just some history and background
based on on the go bond itself
is the community voted
and passed a go bond back in august 21st
of
2018 in the amount of 35.6 million
dollars
now they approved four total questions
uh as part of those
questions there are requirements within
each
for question one we have the park
improvements dog parks
and sports courts that was a total of
16.9 million
that included the items bulleted below
which are the hadley
avenue reconstruction complex
improvements
unidad park rehab and new splash pad
the sports courts and park
rehabilitation
two dog parks and the new east mesa
public recreation complex
question two approved a new animal
services center and the amount of 9.8
million
question three was the replacement of
fire station number three for 6.2
million
and the last question number four was
the walking jogging
biking trail improvements for 2.7
one thing to note again is all of these
projects are to be completed by the end
of year
2022.
so we'll go over a brief recant of the
public engagement that happened
both pre-election and post-election
so as council recalls we hired
architectural research consultants to
assist
in how viable these projects would be
for gobond
so as part of those efforts back in may
there was an address created
so people can submit input and that was
that via go bond at lost
lost-cruises.org
between may april and may of 2018
surveys generated 824 responses from
from the community arc or architectural
research consultants
compiled 417 comments from both meetings
and a survey
now between the dates when we initiated
this of february
to july 2018 there were six council
meetings
those included a work session award the
contract
and to approve the bond questions and
also news conference
also between february and may of that
year in 2018
there were a total of nine public
meetings
as we moved into the post election
portion of it
between december 2018 which was after
the award in august
to september of this year there have
been a total of
10 council award meetings between
january 2019 to september
2020 there have been a total of six
council work sessions
now this next item between january 2019
and march 2020
there were a total of 10 public meetings
these were
actual public meetings where we engaged
the public
at different sites again this is
pre-coveted
the next item that you see is april 2020
the september of this year and then
at that time we've had a total of 13
public meetings now
these were have all been virtual
meetings due to
covet
so some of the accomplishments that
we've had obviously is we've hired
a program manager under contract in ecm
international incorporated council
approved this contract back in december
2018 for a total of 1.2 million
they are to obviously coordinate the
design and construction
track invoices and provide updates as
part of the program
and that's what they were hired to do
now we'll go ahead and move on into the
bonds
uh but before that uh one point that i
do want to make or
or highlight is that council approved
the reimbursement
back in december before the contract was
approved
for ecm to get the process moving
forward
until we had the chance to sell the
bonds and at that point we would
once we sold the bonds and got the
funding we would able to reimburse them
to start the work so the first sale
of the go bond which included 18 million
dollars
or roughly half was sold back in
february 12
2019 uh here more recently the second
half of those bonds
were sold in august for the remaining
17.6
now we'll go and move on into the
updates for each project as we go
through and you'll notice that they'll
go by question
question one obviously will have various
projects that are associated with it and
i'll go through those
each one the first one that we have is
the hadley reconstruction complex
improvements that was a design-build
contract
and that contract amendment was approved
by city council
here recently in august 17th
since then the pre-construction
conference was held september
29th the notice to proceed was issued
october 5th now the areas
associated with this project and the
improvements are as follows
we have mag hardy and paws
ball fields those improvements all
include
work to the concession stand restrooms
the crow's nest
stucco repairs and musko lighting
the other field associated with this
project is the ron
gaia t-ball fields that includes
irrigation
backflow preventer and musco lighting
here's a copy of the project schedule
for that
if you could see here with that approval
the contractor's been going through and
getting their permits in place
to move forward now another thing that
i'd like to point out
is this line here or this time frame
that you see related to the lighting
we'll go over that a little later on as
part of the projects as
this is one of those items that has
pushed this project further out
just due to the lead time of this type
of material
and this is pretty standard across all
installations and these types so that
muscle lighting
there's quite a bit of a lead time
before we can when we order the
materials to they actually come
in now the remaining portion of the
schedule you'll see
where the contractor has identified
where they will be doing those
improvements
for each of those items at each of those
sites
moving forward another project in
question one is the unidoc park
those construction drawings are at 90
complete
we did have a second public meeting a
virtual meeting that was launched
back in june and we also presented this
to the parks and rec advisory board
and we received approval to move forward
with the final master
plan or design of that project back in
july
16th now this project does have a splash
pad
with a recirculating system that
has been notified to us will be required
as part of the water conservation
ordinance and we'll touch base on that a
little bit later on in the presentation
so
keep in mind this this portion here uh
as you can here's a layout
of the projects itself you can see the
improvements
that go through and this was presented
you will see this is the estimated
location of the splash pad
and the improvements to the park
so as part of the replacement of the
park
we're going to be taking and maintaining
that look and feel
as all of you know the united park was a
huge
community endeavor to build a park
so we wanted to make sure that the
design reflected that in the new
construction
so as part of that we're going to be
replacing all the wood pieces with
composite material
this will also include so for your
viewing
is a sample of a splash pad with water
features
so moving on to the next project we have
the sports
the parks and sports court's
improvements this is also under question
number one
it is also a design build contract and
that contract amendment was approved by
city council
in august on the 17th that
pre-construction
conference has been held on october 1st
and the notice to proceed was issued
october 5th
now some of the improvements and
locations are going to be listed below
so we have some picnic and playground
improvements
included at desert trails young and
apodaca park
we have tennis and pickleball court
improvements
at young apolaka lions and metro verde
parks
and lastly we have basketball court
improvements
those are going to be at metro verde
four hills
cardone benavidez community center
frank o'brien papen and klein parks
as with the other project here's the
contractor's schedule
for viewing as noticed and as explained
the
notice to proceed was issued october 5th
and the contractor has actually begun
construction on this project
which was last monday october 5th when
they received that
again this schedule here shows the date
ranges
of when they will be at those dedicated
places to perform
those improvements
next we have the dog parks now if you
recall
there's going to be two locations of the
dog parks
one at burn lake and the other one at
rinconada
adjacent to the animal services center
building that we have as well as part of
the go bond projects
so the dog parks were presented to the
parks
and rec advisory board and approved to
move forward with final design
on august 4th the construction drawings
are at 100 percent
and we are incorporating them into the
construction of the animal services
center
project now again this will we'll
discuss this
a little bit later on uh ins in some of
the schedules that we'll go over
so for reference and for everyone's
knowledge
the placement of the dog park at burn
lake is going to be on the east side
of the existing soccer fields they will
be over to the south
to the east a little bit more towards
the south
uh the lake itself on the campus if you
will is on the west
and the other thing that i wanted to
point out was the existing restrooms
that are right here
as part of the complex as part of this
project
this will not have bathrooms installed
as there are really bathrooms provided
at the complex itself
hey efo there's really no water there if
you see any it's just a mirage
i'll share that with you okay
thank you so as part of the amenities
that you'll be seeing it
at both dog parks both of them are an
acre in size
they do have separate large and small
dog play areas
along with entry and exit vegetables for
each of those large and small dogs they
also have
shade structures play equipment drinking
fountains
landscaping and paving paved parking and
sidewalks as seen on the drawing here
the information is the same for the dog
park
over at grinconada as far as
presentations to the
parks and rec advisory board the
completeness of the plans
but here if you notice it's adjacent to
the new location for the animal service
center
building this is located off of the
but excuse me
this is located off the frontage road of
baton memorial west
at the intersection of grinconada
so again it'll be adjacent to
this facility here and incorporate it
into the construction
of this facility
this has the same amenities as the
location at burn lake with one exception
this will have restrooms the reason for
that
and those restrooms are located here in
between to be accessible from each side
the reason we're providing restrooms
here or these facilities
is this is separate from the animal
service center there was a lot of
questions and concerns when we were
going through
that public input that said you know
well
are people just going to be coming over
to the animal service center to use the
facilities and then
we have you know contamination from pets
going in and out and so
it was decided no that this would have
its own facilities for that purpose
as we move forward with that
and last on question number one is going
to be
the east mesa public wreck complex
now the question and what was approved
on the geo bond question
was it included only a 10 acre park
soccer football multi-use fields a
baseball complex and eight pickleball
courts
now the roadway and utilities were not
part of the geobond
question however staff has
worked to identify funding through
separate bonds and other means
to have these infrastructure needs
completed
also as part of the complex
during the as we were moving forward
we developed a master plan to build out
the entire complex
with the anticipation of a second geo
bond election or
question to be voted on by the public
again the question in number one
did not complete the entire complex
and the needs of the community that's
why we're
moving forward with the master plan
perform that during
the design and that would allow us to
complete
that parcel completely so
as part of that the designer
came forward with public input and we
had three
different master plans if you recall
we had the paseo the greenway
and the parque master plans now based on
feedback or input from the public
the majority of them liked a combination
of two of those
so the final decision and presentation
to council which was awarded on
in july 13 was a combination of both
the paseo and the greenway master plans
and that's what was approved for that
area
so for phase one currently right now
we're working on the construction
drawings and those
are estimated to be completed here in
the first month of the new fiscal year
january twenty twenty one again the
improvements that are gonna
go forward in phase one
or what was approved in the question so
the soccer multi-use fields
we have the baseball complex eight
pickleball courts
concession restrooms and a 10 acre park
again this is phase one out of the
develop master plan
and this illustrates where those
improvements will be as part of phase
one of the master plan
the next project that we have is
question number
two this is its own sole item
it's the new animal services center
again
the location will be off of baton
memorial west in renconada park
here is a layout or an aerial view of
what we expect to see with the
improvements
of the facility now those construction
drawings are at 100 percent
uh we're preparing the request for
proposal to get those out to a
construction bid
that should be advertised here next
month now
another thing that i'd like to highlight
is as part of the question it was asked
to have
solar and this was at a couple of
facilities but
we are looking at and incorporating
solar photovoltaic
array which should be included with
with the project there
so here's just an architectural
rendition
of what the facility will look like
the top view that you have would be that
front
elevation or that front view from the
frontage road on bhutan memorial west
so that's kind of a depiction of what it
should look like
the bottom picture is an elevated
angled photo of the facility and
just trying to give you a layout and a
3d model of what
that would look like from a bird's-eye
view
next we have fire station number three
which is part of question number three
those construction drawings are at 100
percent bids were received back in
august
it's gone through the rfp process and at
this point right now we're under
negotiations with the highest scored
contractor again for reference the
project
will be adjacent to the existing fire
station number three
this will serve a couple of purposes
this will maintain
services out of fire station number
three while we construct
and build the new facility and then once
it's built then we'll transfer over
again this is off of valley drive
next to haner and a jace and
sandwich between the brannigan park to
the east
here's an overview of the site itself
again down over here towards the bottom
your valley drive
so just giving an aerial view and layout
of what
that should look like from above
and here we'll you have some
architectural renditions
again what that building will look like
feel
the top one is a view from valley drive
again the bottom one
is from an elevated perspective looking
down so you can see a 3d model in that
regard
and now question four uh which is the
last question that was approved on the
bonds
this is the walking jogging biking trail
this is a design build contract as well
and includes
improvements to the army collateral the
southwest city
loop which is part of the messiah drain
in the las cruces lateral the
construction drawings for this project
are at 60 percent
and currently ecm is working
on a guaranteed maximum price and on
those documents to bring them forth
to city council now this project
although it was presented to the parks
and advisory board parks and rec
advisory board no action was taken
that meeting is scheduled to occur this
thursday the 15th
that way we could get approval from the
board to move forward with final design
so here we have a picture of the project
schedule
and i believe everyone is pretty
familiar with this look and feel of a
project
schedule and if you say hey that looks
familiar you are correct
this is the project schedule that was
presented
on the conceptual portion
presentation when we first started to
move forward with the go
bonds so what i'll like to do at this
point in time right now
if you noticed off to the right or i
mean off to the left this is
the schedule as of september 23rd
in preparation of the meeting over to
the right you're going to see
a little legend with a black line it may
be a little difficult
but this represents where the design and
construction
was as part of that schedule from
october 2019
so as an example as we go through here
for
the top project the animal service
center
you see that black line right here okay
that represented where the design phase
was supposed to finish
under that conceptual plan back in
2019 i'm sorry let me get back to that
so currently with everything that's
happened
this is the representation of where
we're currently at
and the estimated schedule to go through
the bidding and construction
so for each and every project you will
notice
where those original timelines were and
where we are estimated to complete
one thing i did like i do want to point
out is based on the slide at the
beginning
all of the projects are supposed to be
completed by the end of year 2022
this is that timeline and this is when
all of those projects will be done
so yes there were some delays and we'll
be going over those in the next couple
of slides
but this represents for visual purposes
how that project has moved from its
conceptual
up to this point right now
so as we move forward with what were
those delays and how are we going to
remedy those
so first for the animal service center
uh you'll notice on there that we have
some bulleted items for
for each so part of the delay was that
we added the dog parks to the design
if you recall in the previous slides i
mentioned that we're incorporating that
as far as the construction goes
with that project so by adding that to
that project
that delayed those design times for that
project
now how are we going to move forward to
remedy and see if we can catch up on
some of those things well
we're combining and adding those dog
parks to help
expedite construction now some
may say well we have the delay from the
design but now we're
making up for it by adding it to the
construction uh this does a couple of
things by adding it to the construction
those sites that brinconada are so close
together
that by having one contractor do both of
those projects
and as we send them out that will
expedite
and help in coordination of those two
projects
for fire station number three some of
the delays that we had was
additional time for design and also for
covid
now i didn't mention this above but
covet did have an effect on each project
uh how much that occurred from project
to project
that depends on the ability from our
design companies that we hired
to be able to work through
that initial health order some companies
were a little bit more adapt to
work with those restrictions and work
off-site
where other other companies struggled a
little bit
so again we had covid delays with all
projects
but we are working through those to try
to expedite them as quickly as possible
so for the additional time for the
design at the at the fire station
we had other things asked to be brought
in as part of the design
uh one of them being also the looking
into the solar as part of the
the project so going through there that
did delay some of the project based on
how far the project was along
and when we incorporated those to be
considered as part of the project
now what are we doing to expedite some
of those things
uh we have are expediting the
negotiations and the contract execution
so we can get to construction sooner now
we did expedite the rfp process
but we did not mess with the integrity
of the process
the example that i'm giving is we were
able to schedule
those rfp meetings sooner to have them
that way we could move forward with
obtaining
a contractor to move forward to
negotiations
the next project that we have is the
east mesa public rec complex
some of the delays that we had here was
including the master plan to be able to
complete
that campus under phase two as part of
phase one obviously we had the
questions and what we had to build there
obviously that did not
suffice the needs of the community based
on the feedback
so we have the contract the design
contractor
do a master plan that way we can move
forward
under a second geo bond question to
complete the campus
now we are working with that designer to
expedite the design
i did mention that they are scheduled to
be completed
at the in january 2021 we are looking at
all items on how we can expedite those
designs
to finish that a little bit sooner also
we are separating out
the access road and utilities as part of
this project
and staff is working in conjunction with
that designer and we will attack that
separately to get this moving sooner
next we have the uni unidath park uh
some of the delays that we've
encountered there are some requirements
from the new mexico environment
department
that is we do require
to have a recirculating system
as part of the splash pad now what that
does
is although we designed to have
infrastructure in place originally
and then install it at a later date we
have
since been given direction that we need
to incorporate it with the project so
this has caused some of the
design delays with that as well that
also
includes additional improvements because
of that
because of that now we also have to
provide other additional
and amenities as far as
restrooms and showering facilities so
we're working through those
and as mentioned we're trying to
expedite those designs
to catch up with these new requirements
the hadley recreation complex again uh i
said remember those
the lighting and the musco those do do
have anywhere from 16 to 20 week
lead times and that's what we're looking
at here is
is basically those leads times to get
those things here
what we're doing is construction will
begin there at the facilities
depending on how the health orders go
and whether we have to schedule to have
certain facilities open for activities
or if we have the ability to keep those
facilities closed that will give us an
opportunity
to work with our contractor to complete
some of those things
sooner as crew times allow from the
contractor
for the park and sports courts uh the
delays that we had there
we we went through a series of public
input
uh there was additional questions at a
park
and rex advisory board meeting where we
went back out to get
more public information and then covet
hit
so that kind of
delayed some of those meetings and how
we were able to address
some of those because we couldn't gather
and also getting other information
from that what we're doing again for
that one to help speed it along
is all our user groups and our customer
departments
they're working with those user groups
to schedule some of these
things as we move forward again this is
dependent on
the health order and what is going to be
available at the time what can open what
cannot open
so we're looking at those opportunities
to be able to capitalize
should the facilities not be in use
lastly the walking and jogging biking
trails
we we have run into some delays
obtaining the permits through
elephant butte irrigation district but
we are working closely with them
and expediting the design as you saw in
the report before
we're ready to go to get that approval
from the parks and rec advisory board
and then moving forward quickly to
expedite that design
and get it through the approval process
so the next item uh is the
program budget now if you notice
each project is listed here now
you'll look at the totals and some of
them you'll say well some match with the
questions and others don't
please keep in mind that some of these
projects are all
under question one whereas three of them
are independent
independently their own question and
that
budget matches for example fire station
number three replacement 6.2 million
is listed there for question one we had
the east mesa public rec complex unidad
east hadley park sports courts and dog
parks all under one question
you sum those up and they would add add
up to that question amount
the next slide here is a program cash
flow
that has been supplied by ecm so up to
this point in time right now
the activities that have happened
through
design which are the planned which is
the scoping
and the design those are in blue
as we're moving through and once we get
to construction
that line starts to scale
up as these things get completed
again if you notice we're out to 2022
and by this estimate it's in september
now that's the blue line of the
anticipated improvements through design
and construction the orange line
dictates what has actually happened as
you can see it's mimicked that line
fairly closely and what we'll start to
see now
with some of these designs completed and
negotiations underway and some
starting construction we're going to see
those activities start to
shoot up and that's what this line will
also do
is once we start completing those tasks
and paying for them
we should start moving here our goal is
to have this orange line
exceed this line to try to catch up for
some of those design
delays that we've seen
and with that mayor and council both
i and tony trevino are available for any
questions from council
david very impressive presentation very
clear and concise
and um good job thank you sir
counselor beta stevie and counselor ben
como and
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thank you and thank you david i also was
very
presentation i just have a few
questions you hit on a few uh some of
mine that i had
but going back to slide nine we have um
the
unit ed park update um with those design
structures
i think it's one thing that um is
important i know to myself and to many
others but
um having things be inclusive of all
abilities when we have children
and so are there kind of like 88
elements in here so that
um perhaps if we had those with
different
uh ability levels to be able to
participate
at every park and so at this park would
they be able to participate
uh mayor councillor beta snoopy this is
tony trevino the interim uh deputy
director of public
works um that is a great question if you
can see that picture on the lower left
hand corner
there are several ramps included there
so that was our attempt
not our attempt that was our design
basis to make the
um ada accessible for all the elements
of the park
um we did want it to kind of make it
elevated as the existing park is it's
gonna have some platforms some elevated
areas for the parents to see
their children up playing um in the
middle you can kind of see a little um
kind of circular kind of sitting area
there
just to the right david right there um
so that it's all elevated
for um wheelchair accessibility or or
um all access i guess you can say so yes
ma'am so
it is fairly large it is spread out just
to make those um
race platforms successful fantastic
thank you
um and i know how loved it is that it um
had that wood feel i know as a parent
i've crawled after my kids
in the little tiny spots you know and
gotten stuck
myself um so i know it's so well loved
and so i'm glad to see that those design
elements are included in here
um and with the when the splash pads
um just a clarification um from slide 11
on our different basketball courts um
just to make sure we have hill rise
also listed okay um sorry i saw hill
rise on one but not on the other so i
just wanted to go back and check that
um and
then for slide 13
when talking with a new dog park
is there a pathway that goes from that
new
dog park to those existing restrooms
because it looks like you do have to
cross
kind of a bigger street so is there
um any sort of consideration or sidewalk
um
notification that will be there to help
with pedestrians
uh mayor uh council celebrate this to me
this is tony again
um at this point right now there is no
existing sidewalk
there's some millings which is recycled
asphalt laid out in the parking area
and the roadway around the soccer fields
um
wayfinding signage will be incorporated
as part of this directing the public to
where those restrooms are so that is
something we'll definitely look at
um for um
access and the route to those those
missions so thanks for bringing that up
that is a great
great question so we will look into that
okay thank you
yeah and then um perhaps proper lighting
then as well
um just at least uh on the roadway
okay thank you and okay
next up um i have it all by slide number
so um with slide 25 and 26 i do
appreciate the
um difference the chat about the delays
and the rabbinities
first by 26 can you explain a little bit
about this
particular lighting it does seem it does
have a
kind of a long lead time and so what
makes this lighting
kind of the thing that we need to use
uh mayor councilman this is tony again
so the moscow lighting is a um
the type of lighting that parks and rec
is going with when all the parks
this um allows for their maintenance
schedule their
their use of it their their control of
it it's kind of like um
how the utility department has your
scada system where they can kind of
utilize and control the entire system
from the computers in the office so this
gives them that ability to control all
the lights within
within the city and all the parks so
this is the
route that they're going for with all
their lighting um you can see these
lights on the new um
the soccer fields the van damme soccer
fields these are the new values they
installed there
and to keep it consistent throughout
these will be installed
throughout the handy complex fantastic
thank you
and then as we move forward with these
projects um and we're looking at
contracts um for construction are we
going to have
language written in kind of for
protection of completion since we are
still in a pandemic and we know that um
there are very unusual circumstances
that can happen with companies with
people and things like that
and so i want us um just to make sure we
still
do have obligations to complete these as
near on time as possible
but what type of considerations are we
looking at
at the city to kind of
protect those investments when we are
sending out these rfps
and mayor councilman stevie well we have
written under contracts and what
legal is um kind of making sure that we
have in our contracts
is liquidated damages based on the the
final contract data when the project
should be done
the amount of these liquidated damages
is cost per day
for each additional day after the
contract is uh
completed um and the amount per day is
based on the total amount of the project
the higher the the amount of project the
more expensive
the project is of course the um the
liquidated damages will be a higher
amount for each day
so that is um added to each contract as
we move forward and that is actually in
every contract that we do at the city
roadway or anything we do
fantastic thank you yeah counselor
if i could add to tony's item so
we do have the liquidated damages as
part of the contract we also have each
contractor provide
bonds so both performance and material
and labor bonds
so should anything happen obviously you
mentioned the effects of covid
and hopefully nothing does happen to our
contractors that
that we hire but should it we have the
ability
to place a claim back on that bond
to complete the project so if for
whatever reason something happens to the
contractor
we have the fullback to go on the bonds
to complete the projects
okay fantastic um and then
do we anticipate or have built in any
sort of
um accommodations if
there are state issues that we have to
look at um
once we send out these rfps is there
anything that we have on the city side
that we have to be concerned about um
with sort of limitations
or what would limitations look like um
that we might have to deal with on the
city side later on
mayor council made this to be the only
limitations that we have
right now where we deal with the state
is some there's some primitive
uh like it for example the fire station
we had to get into the city count to
permit their own projects we had to go
out to the state
to the state cid um construction
industries division
but the way you've been trying to
accommodate that is actually go for the
permit during design
so that is some of the the items we
addressed during design where
we submitted everything to the uh the
state for the pre-approval
so once the contractor is on board all
they got to do is get the permit
the jobs have already been approved
reviewed approved and just ready for
the payment and the release permit so
that is the stuff we've been kind of
trying to address
in the forefront fantastic thank you
and you know this project i think can be
so special for everybody and bring in so
many different elements for our
community and that's why i know it's so
important for it to get done
um within the time frame that we've kind
of promised the public
and so i really appreciate the
transparency on
looking at all this and having this
meeting today so
thank you david thank you tony and thank
you mayor
thank you yeah thanks councillor uh next
is councilman cuomo
thanks mayor thank you so much um david
and tony i just have a few questions
um in terms of the dog park timeline uh
so are they all gonna be in construction
at once
or are you building one and then
finishing that one starting another one
and they just all have to be done
by that date um or how
how are the dog parks um going to be
constructed mayor councillor ben cuomo
uh
good question the the scheduling of each
project since it's going to be the
animal service center as well with two
dog parks
we give a timeline to the contractor
when everything's got to be completed
however it's up to them to provide a
schedule of what they're going to be
doing how they're going to utilize their
forces or their um their teams and
everything to get these projects done
um some of the
not delays but some time that kind of
taken is that we're not going to a
straight bid on these projects we're
actually going to an rfp based on
qualifications
for all these contracts so as part of
that
packet that they submit to us not only
the cost but they also give us a
schedule
of how they're going to coordinate all
these items all these tasks and get them
done within that scheduled timeline so
we just kind of give them an end point
and their means and method and how they
get it done is up to them to get us
to that date okay super helpful how
throughout the range of the contract how
often does council get updated
um mayor comes to bancomo like mr
cedillo mentioned at the um
beginning of the thing uh we'll be
coming back up to our regular
quarterly meetings for for the geo bond
kind of like where we started last year
and we kind of got
sidetracked with the current situation
going on but we'll be back in january to
give uh
a quarterly update okay great and then
tony since i have you here
um in terms of for the jogging path
i know the um i know there was
you know some discussion some
disagreement perhaps and i
i absolutely know that we can't you know
meet everybody's expectations that would
be crazy but i know that there was some
pretty serious concerns
and i just i hadn't um touched back
touch base with public work staff on
on the jogging um trails in terms of
like it being on valley and some of
those bigger concerns do you feel like
you're closer
are you at a confirmed design already
actually so um a couple about a month or
two ago we had a
presentation for the b-pack the bicycle
pedestrian
i forgot the other two yeah but so we
met with them
um we we presented our alignments for
each of the trails
and what we kind of clearly noted there
was our detours off the original
alignment
where our is our in interim trout
connections is what those are called so
for example we have the army hill
lateral we're getting off on parker
or palmer going down second and fourth
and tying back up on halle
and the other one is on the army hill
going down amador to tie into the
messiah drain into burn lake so those
are going to be
um signed as our interim child
connections too we can get the
the right away the the proper
crossing um infrastructure for some of
those because a lot of them are crossing
picacho
amador valley uh some major roadways
in the city so we got to have the proper
crossing infrastructure there whether it
be a hawks
hawk signal more signage or whatever it
means that is when we get into that
study we can properly address those
issues and have them cross at those
locations
so yes we had that meeting um
we i we had their i don't it wasn't
acceptance but we had their kind of
proven to move forward with these with
that
but that signage being called interim
and temporary so
it's not it's known to everybody that's
not the permanent alignment that we're
still moving forward with the final
design for the alignments okay and then
yes i knew that there was discussion
about hawk systems you figured out where
those are going to go already
we have the vocations and we've applied
for some grants with nmdo
d.o.t unfortunately we did not
get those but um yes one is at 17th
street at picacho and the other
is at 4th street and picacho so we are
still
going to look for how to adjust those in
the future 17th and 14th
no 17th at picacho and fourth in peacock
of course there is no safety well there
is but yeah i'm not questioning
yeah that's like yeah yeah um
okay that's really helpful to know um
and then on valley you're just using
like the roadway
still just like the actual you know
flight crossing
yeah actually on valley drive we're not
going to be um
going along yet we're going to be
crossing that newly constructed
intersection of valley and amador
and we're going like that's um buffered
bike lane already on amador that
separated bike lane on amador to go down
to the uh
maciadre okay um
and then my last question is around the
uh firehouse i knew
that there had been some concerns
um regarding previous fire houses
and contractors and some delays
how do we ensure that we
don't go back to some of those same
contractors
um mayor constantine cuomo um
what was done prior we just kind of put
a bid out and went with the lowest
bidder
kind of whoever gave us the cheapest
prices who we were obligated to contract
with
um and that was pretty that was a time
time saving it was wrong
you know to streamline the project
however now um
kind of based on the way we're trying to
go with the city and
ensure the quality that we get it's a uh
rfp
so we not only is based on price which
is a small portion of it but it's based
on
previous performance qualifications
their current
workload of how they they can handle it
so it's um goes to our selection
advisory committee
once they once they submit those we got
a team of um
uh subject matter experts that will
review the rfp
score it rate it and then we'll discuss
it and
based on who comes out the highest is
who we begin our negotiations with
great that's wonderful to hear tony
thank you so much i appreciate it
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okay thank you maripo tim
yes thank you um tony and david
um um could you turn oh you are
at 10. the question i have is how the
distance between
the splash pad and the park feature or
the
playground feature what is the distance
and
um i noticed there will be grass in the
other well currently it's
i think wood chips or some wood chips
some
different type of material i guess i'm
concerned about safety and the kids
running from the splash pad
over to this playground
mayor mayor pro tem gandera what i'm
going to do is i'm going to move a slide
back hopefully this you'll have
better a better view of the proposed
location
now yes that was a factor as we were
looking
at the design and tony can correct me if
i'm wrong
but yes that was a concern with
the area that's out here and i believe
it's landscaped i believe the wood chips
are further
inside the park but you did have some
grass area that's out over here
that was a concern of not only bringing
debris or grass or anything that can
clog the system
so we looked at other materials that
could be placed around
it some harder surface coupled by
some landscaped areas and provide areas
of
access to that feature
as we come through to be able to do it
in a safe manner and transition
great thank you good i'm i'm glad to see
that
you know um i was part of the community
that went in i was working at the
department of health at that time
and with gail padilla and others and so
the community
took such ownership in terms of building
right the the park and um
i know that we are on a time crunch and
we have all these deadlines um
but i'm i'm wondering if there is
um a way that we can involve the
community moving forward because the
community has been such a huge part of
of um you know designing and
actually building the park hence the
name united
park right so that would be my only
recommendation
um moving forward and i don't know if
there could be
um small activities for people come in
um
you know to do that and i'm not sure
that um
litigiously were able to um do that but
in terms of liability and such but i i
am
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i know that the public has been um
although i hadn't participated in these
kinds of public meetings
for the park specifically to you know
that part
um i know that i've had a lot of
families very concerned about
tearing down right the playground um
because it's such a beloved part so
um david have you had any or maybe
considered
that thought of involving community in
such a way that they feel
like um you know they're a part of
the build-out
mayor mayor pro tem gandra first of all
thank you for your service
on the initial building of the project
as i mentioned earlier before
you know that that project had a major
impact to the community
and you're right it was called unidot
park because it united the community as
we came forward with it
one of the things that we'll take a look
at is you mention it already
but there are liability issues as we
move forward now we can look at certain
options
maybe some some things that we can do
prior to the starting of
construction uh you know we're going to
have a virtual
ground breaking for the fire station i
don't know if it's possible
to pop probably do some type of
community vent
where people that had part in it before
construction begins
and maybe either have uh some type of a
ceremony or they come out and they
may be a few select people obviously
depending where we're at in the pandemic
and the health order maybe some
community members
remove a piece or two from the park uh
and then that way it may not be a
complete involvement
but at least that's that's maybe a
possibility as we move forward
but we'll definitely check with our
legal department as we
try to incorporate something like that
into this project
thank you david for your consideration i
would really appreciate just knowing
again it that holds very special
memories to me
and i'm sure to many uh in the community
that assisted
in this in this process so anything that
you could do to
help build community right especially
around this park
i think would be i'd be grateful
um on slide 12 you have a list of
all the parks and the various upgrades
or different things that are going to
happen but i don't
see um maybe a list of what those
the rehabilitation is going to look like
can you at
least um for my purposes for klein
um for abalakka lions park um
tell me what those might be because i've
been asked
mayor mayor pro i'm gonna let tony
go ahead and fill you in on what those
improvements are going to be at those
locations
thanks david put me on the spot um
let me try and remember this uh mayor
constantina
um klein park is going to be a
a rehab of the basketball courts uh
hillary
is a rehab of the basketball courts
which is going to be some
some stripping and clearing of the top
layer
of the paint and everything there will
be some leveling some sealing of the
cracks
and then a resurface on top of them
um four hills is the same the
paping community center i want us
i believe that one's just a rehab and
the only reconstruction of any of these
parks is apodaca
and the metro rarity basketball park are
you only
going to be reconstructed uh courts
everything else shouldn't be just um
rehabilitated uh stripped
leveled out grinded down crack sealed
re-leveled and then um
apply to some kind of surface for the
paints in the markings
sure um tony specific to apalaca park i
know there's been already some
improvements there
with the rock right the landscaping
around
at least on the side i haven't crossed
over to really paid much attention but
um on the the solano madrid side right
there's some
um nice uh landscaping that has been
done can you
be a little more specific in terms of
and if you don't have that
if that's okay if you all could send me
something
more specific i'd appreciate it so for
apodaca park uh
mayor uh
um the existing concrete slab is going
to be
redone it's going to be removed and
reconstructed within the
no i apologize i take that back we're
going to
add an additional eight feet to three of
the sides on that
on that court to accommodate
um eight pickleball courts
with some additional room on the sides
some benches and so forth we're going to
add some lighting
we're going to do some ada improvements
some new
nets and fencing in there as well as
grinding it down cleaning it up leveling
it out and applying a three
layer acrylic surface two of them will
be a textured surface and the last one
would be a colored surface on that court
tony have you received that funding from
the feds there to start moving into
the other apolaka improvements that we
want to make
their um like the removal of the
swimming pool
and the splash pad and those things
uh mayor mary potem i would have to
defer to parks and rec on that
or maybe mr cedillo has an idea but i am
not aware of that
ram that i don't know okay
mrs leo or park and red anybody
good afternoon mayor mayor pro tem this
is sony delgado director parks and
recreation
we have not yet received that grant for
that portion of the park
but we anticipate to get that but we're
not exactly sure when that will be
okay i know i've been asked so i'll be
happy to talk to some of our federal
delegation to see if they can check on
that um
and and just connect the city with that
um
david slide 19
that's for the animal services center
and the solar
panel
now the solar pva that will be installed
um can you talk to me a little more in
detail of what that entails
and if it means actual actual
solar panels would that
affect the older building as well
and if it isn't are there plans in the
works to
um put solar and that older building
because i would imagine it
uses a lot of electricity
mayor mayor coach this is tony trevino
again
uh david can you go to the next slide
please
so what we're looking at doing here for
the solar panel now
this was a a rendering uh prior to it
but those yellow areas in the back where
the shaded for the
the dog runs especially that long one in
the middle is what we're going to be
installing the solar panels
okay so we're going to incorporate it
into the facade in the building
structure
um and at this point it is just going to
facilitate the new building it won't be
connected to the
existing building uh to the east okay
thank you tony um
page excuse me slide 20 and the old
station
what are we going to do with it is good
did i i don't know why i'm thinking
it might be for storage
i don't know what will we do with the
old fire station
may approach him i believe at this point
they're still going to utilize it for
storage of some vehicles and everything
i'm not sure if
chief is on line here or deputy g smith
help answer that but i think they're
going to put some of their existing
vehicles and storage for there for now
looks like chief enriquez is there yes
can you hear me there
yes yes um yeah we we'd like to have it
evaluated once uh
once the new station three is built and
then see what it looks like as far as
maybe a structural engineer design but
we'd like to keep it
especially because of the bay area to
park some of our reserves there and keep
them out of the elements
good oh good i think that would be
helpful for sure
i just i hadn't heard what we were going
to do so i appreciate it
um yeah i i just i thank you for all the
work i know kova
certainly put a wrench in some of this
um
i i know um that in past
um in the past when we've talked about
contracting and bidding that sort of
thing
um you've included a provision there
um for folks who might be late in terms
of where they're at
with the the the building the build-out
does that provision exist tony and
or david and specifically what does that
say i i think
that at one time am i
dreaming this up do you charge them
daily right for
the number of days that they're late is
that something that happens still
may or may protect no you're exactly
right i can't before those are known as
liquidated damages
which is based on a fee per day after
the contract has expired
um that amount per day is based on the
amount of the contract price in its
entirety
so it might go up from a couple thousand
dollars to a day or a smaller project
just a couple hundred dollars a day
just depending on the overall contract
price but those are i'm included in all
the contracts
from public works as we move forward
whether it's a roadway project a smaller
one or
some of these bigger facilities okay
very good
um thank you those are all my questions
i appreciate all your work
thank you mayor pro tem thank you mayor
pro tem
counselor flores and then counselor
vasquez thank you mr mayor
and thank you mr trevigno thank you mr
cedillo for your
um presentation and your answers your
thorough
answers um i um
so my question i have a couple of
questions one of them
is did didn't we have a isn't there a
requirement under the globe on to have
everything fulfilled by a certain
date or
did i misunderstand that
mayor comes to the photos this is tony
teruvino again no you were right it is
um
as stated in one of the previous slides
it's the the end of the year of 2022
uh you're muted uh councillor flores
thank you mr mayor so the prediction at
this point mr
uh travino is that we will be done by
the end of 2022
and that is everything's in motion at
this point
is that correct correct with our our
longest project our longest
time of a project is the east mesa
sports complex
and that is um scheduled to be completed
in september of 2022.
um this schedule does allow us we did
allow us some buffer
as part of this construction schedule of
our estimated timeline
and that will be uh stipulated in our
contract negotiations with the
contractor with regard to rfp proposal
or the construction of it does that
include the
um the uh
the structures infrastructure that
wasn't part of the gold bonds such as
the roads and utilities well
that too will will that be done by then
too
or is it just the uh the fields
mayor comes to the photo so that will be
done we have um
we have got some additional bunny
funding
um money from bonding you applied to
that
um the sonoma springs access route and
also the camino coyote
uh access route so let's kind of have
a little uh i guess you can say
predicament here is we have no way to
access that site right now
to do the construction because it's on
the very east side of that blm
property so we are working with a
consultant right now to get a temporary
kind of construction access
through camino coyote so they'll be able
to have access to get to the site and do
the construction while we build the
sonoma springs out
in its entirety with all the utilities
and stuff going forward so they'll all
be done
they'll be going on at different times
with some different contractors
but yeah i'll be there wow wow
so uh uh councilman cuomo asked a
question as to
whether uh different uh projects would
be
um working in tandem or quantum
or whether they'd be um like one
contractor gets done
and then moves on to the next one but i
think your answer was that they would be
in
not necessarily in tandem but all at the
same time like in a
quantum manner where um
all projects i guess we have different
contractors
and is it did i understand that
correctly
yes ma'am you are you are correct it
would just be a coordination effort on
our part
great thank you now as far as desert
trails community park i didn't see
anything as to
what exactly would be done there do you
have any idea
and will there be any
more focus groups or community groups
participating
in its fate uh
mayor councilman flotus no at this point
we've had
two public meetings and we also went to
the parks directorate board
on uh the desert trails park and what's
down is it's just
off the study and analysis we had done
where the user
department had a analysis done on the
all the erosion
taking place on that park and it's
causing a lot of the
damage to the existing trails and access
and parking lots there
so what this project is going to include
is just all the erosion mitigation
for these for this area some of those
hills are kind of steep
and a lot of sediment to get on the
trails undercutting of the trails which
is
impeding some of the access along those
trails
for um all mobilities so this is just
going to go and mitigate a lot of those
issues that we have throughout the park
um
we did present that plan and all the
meetings that we had
we had one at the leave the east mesa
safety complex they did that plan over
there and also to the parks
of our board so it's the same plan that
we've had from beginning
okay so um i just want to make sure
because
people are asking whether people are
still worried about the original
uh was it the original plan
um i think um ms delgado is familiar
with that excuse me
with that um commentary from from the
community in this area
uh that um that the park would be
developed in a way that it would make it
a
park a regular park with a playground
and picnic and grass
and everybody uh was against that
vehemently
and so there isn't any plan like that
correct no ma'am this is just for
the erosion mitigation just the dirt
yes how much was uh how much has been
spent on that erosion
plan or study i imagine you got
geologists excuse me hydrologists
to look at all of that i would have to
get back with
uh parks and rec they hired a consultant
a couple years ago
two three years ago to do the um
analysis and we're just carrying that
forward
what do you mean there's been an
analysis ordered three years and we
still don't have the results or
report on that the analysis is there but
now we finally got money
for the construction of it for the
actual implementation and that's what
we're doing with this geo bond funding
would it be possible to give me or if
anybody else is interested on city
council
um to give me that plan or that
whatever you call it um
to carry that out i'd like to say that
yes ma'am okay thank you mr trevino
and thank you mr serious thank you thank
you mr mayor
hey councillor vasquez
mayor um thank you tony and david
for a great presentation for this update
that you gave us
on all these projects i know it's been
uh
something new to manage this amount of
uh
of design and construction and planning
and working with so many
different uh contractors i'm sure is uh
is a significant undertaking on on your
part in addition to all the other work
you have to do so i want to recognize
that and say thank you
um i don't have any particular questions
or comments that my colleagues haven't
asked
thank you all for for asking terrific
questions
um i'm excited in particular about the
improvements
um to the hadley uh sports fields and as
well as to
we need that park that's super exciting
that there's going to be a splash pad
there
and you know i know that especially
during baseball tournaments or softball
tournaments
or just you know local uh practice
man kids would love to use that splash
pad while
you know the um maybe the the other kids
or their brothers and sisters are
playing in a baseball game
i could see you know the moms and the
dads taking their kids out to that
splash pad to just have an amazing time
together as a family and they could all
be doing something different as part of
that complex
skate park is right around the corner
you got to be at max track i mean talk
about a cool facility for the city just
getting a little bit cooler
i'm so i'm really excited about that um
uh
actually i did have one quick question
on the klein park basketball court
uh is it my understanding there was a
private donor
that was gonna extend that basketball
court in the past
um to like a regulation size and is that
still how
anymore mayor
councillor vasquez uh i believe
parks and rec has more information
regarding your question there
so i'll def sunya delgado in parks and
rec
okay uh good afternoon mayor members of
council
um councillor vasquez uh that
gentleman's name was jose traviso
and he was from full court fiesta and
he wanted to put together a tournament
and in doing so he's going to get some
sponsors together
to have a basketball tournament there at
klein and he was going to redo the
entire basketball court
so on the list of gold bond projects
that's why klein is listed
last uh we're going to give him some
time to be able to get that done
he's currently in the process of putting
together the funding pages
and the sponsorship pages and they
should be coming out soon
i just spoke to him last week so we wish
him well and i hope you can get that
done it's going to be a great project
okay great thank you so much sonia and
thank you tony uh the only other
suggestion i have and i think we may
have mentioned this the last time
we talked about the go bond in a work
session
is some signage for the project
locations um
i think we we said that there might be
some old cip
um project signs in a stu in storage
somewhere in a warehouse somewhere
one of the ways uh that i knew what some
of the city projects were
as part of our last capital investment
kind of campaign
was those big signs that were in front
of the project locations that detailed
how much the project cost i believe uh
the description of the
project and i forget what other
information was on there
but i think in terms of communicating to
the public that these geo bond projects
are moving forward
and holding ourselves accountable to a
completion date
or even just summer fall 2000 2021
2022 it would be i think terrific to
have some signage in front
of each go bond project because that's
really where the interface is going to
happen while the public is using those
parks
or using those facilities they will know
that a renovation is coming
and i think you know to communicate
better with the public in addition to
our city council and our
public information office having some
signs in front of
some key projects that details what
those
you know what what the investment is
what the renovations are
and when our expected completion date is
i think would serve
the city really well to get information
out there and we'll let folks know that
progress is coming
and so i don't know if those signs are
still out there that we talked about
recycling last time and perhaps
printing over i think udell um had
mentioned that
but i'd love to see those signs and have
like a geo bond logo at the top and
let folks know that these things are
happening mayor
councillor vasquez david sevilla for the
record uh we are currently working
through that process to get those signs
up we're working through our artist
to get that design the specifics for
each project
and then we'll work with a signed
company to have them printed
on those other signs that we had so
worse
that is still going to happen we're in
the process of getting those
uh through other means and not as part
of the funding for the
for the gold bonds but yes we agree
that's very important to to be able to
advertise
to the community thank you david and
it helps hold us accountable to those to
those completion
that too so that the public can expect
those those uh project
no i think those are all my comments uh
thank you again i apologize i think my
connection might be a little bit
unstable here but
love to see those signs popping up soon
and
thank you guys for all your hard work
i'm very excited for this and um
hoping this is just one of our first
gold bond um i hope we can have some
more in the future too
it all depends on this one though it's
all writing on this one thank you guys
thank you counselor thank you counselor
come on oh here we go it's a little slow
and reacting here of course as usual
um thank you mayor and thank you to all
the staff that's
done this reporting here today big
complex uh projects we have going here
which brings to mind um the
we hired a project manager outside
project manager for all these projects
did we not uh david
mayor councillor sorg yes you are
correct
that is okay okay um is that project
manager still working on it as
as as planned yes sir
the that project management company is
still working
through right now and will be working
through completion of all google
okay that's good that's good i'd like to
like to hear that
um some comment was made uh
with some basketball courts in metro
verdi
uh and then i see on this slide 11 that
uh
there's a tennis court in metro verde
too it's in the project
these are brand new basketball and
met and uh tennis courts and i thought i
heard
um tony maybe it was said that they're
going to redo them they're going to
rebuild them again
is that right mayor it comes with
sorghum this is tony trevino again um
yes sir when the basketball court at
metro verde was built
constructed there is a major drainage
issue
where water does not get off the court
has seeped through the cracks
and has caused some damage to this
upgrade and made some uneven areas in
that
on that course okay
too bad we didn't catch that before they
built them yeah
something to think about for the future
maybe any parks that are built out there
or anywhere in the city
uh something that we want to keep on top
of so we don't
have to waste our money rebuilding
things um
and then finally last a signage that
councilor vasquez has talked about is
awesome
um that's something we definitely have
to do i can remember
our community development projects we
had
um when we passed the three-eighths
um grt tax increase
we had several projects that were
community development to kind of
forget the exact name we had on it but
there was
several major projects and we had a
large sign on each one of them
and that really uh is a good thing so
carry on
on all everyone tony david's staff and
everything
and thank you mayor let's let's go
forward thank you
thank you counselor uh counselor ben
cuomo
last question for tony um tony on the
hawk system
i'm curious the one on fourth street i'm
curious if we've had conversations
you've had conversations with um the
schools i know that macarthur
is right there and they're now a
community school i'm curious if that
could be a partnership to
at least bring one of those hawk systems
to
to that area mayor councillor ben cuomo
we definitely have spoken with
the public schools on this because right
there is their major
crossing for apricot and that is why we
located this crossing
right there and we kind of did a detour
of that alignment
the other one was going right along the
railroad
which is due to safety so we did push it
off to an existing crossing
so we have discussed it with public
schools and have been in discussion with
nmdot
okay and that hasn't come to any
fruition yet
uh on that conversation we did apply for
the map grant for that project
but we were not successful and so we'll
figure out and try and move forward with
that in the future how to get that taken
care of
okay that's awesome you guys really do
think of everything so
thank you okay well very good
well gentlemen thank you again for your
presentation um
as counselor said councillor sorg said
just carry on looks good
thank you thank you okay so last item
is 3.3 the business retention and
expansion
i guess free and business support for
recovery so dr martinez
riscella martinez and elizabeth peters
will be making the presentation
good afternoon mayor and city council my
name is elizabeth teters and i'm going
to be doing the presentation today
here on my screen
okay can you see my screen yes okay
great
so we call business retention expansion
bre just for short um
so what is bre the definition of bre
is it's an economic development strategy
of proactively connecting with
existing businesses to understand and
respond to local business needs
so basically that is taking a proactive
approach to business development
a lot of times you think of economic
development and business development as
reactive
so if a business is about to shut down
or something like that
they go and they seek help to you know
hold everything together and to stay
open
so business retention expansion you're
doing you're meeting with businesses
more often
you're talking to them so you're aware
of what's going on you're connecting
with the businesses
and you're understanding what's going on
in their business environment
and so you can respond to the needs
before it's too late
um and it's also understanding the
business climate in
las cruces so by creating this bre
program
we are going to have a better idea of
how businesses are doing
and you'll hear me say a few times you
know fill in the gaps if we discover
there
are needs not being met or programs not
in place we're going to be able to go
and work on new programs and whatnot to
make sure that our businesses are
getting what they need
so the basic idea what it boils down to
is that we are here as an economic
development department
to help the businesses and the employers
so our timeline we started the program
in august it was
uh our basically our program set up in
september we did
our initial outreach now this is a pilot
program that we're doing in the west
mesa industrial park
we chose the industrial park because the
market street study that was
uh completed recommended that we do a
pilot program in the industrial park and
then expand the bre program
to the rest of the city in phases beyond
that
so in september also we did uh
our bre launch so after we did our
initial outreach we
sent emails and we made phone calls
um we did a launch at the end of the
month where we invited the businesses
from the industrial park to do a virtual
meeting with us so they could ask
questions and we had all of our partners
there too
this month we are starting our
industrial park visits
so after the launch we'll generally meet
with them one-on-one and that's when we
start talking about the business needs
and their business themselves and then
we're also starting
our second phase is going to be
manufacturing and outdoor recreation
so we're starting to plan that process
and
planning when we're going to start
reaching out to businesses and doing the
launch for that
for that sectors those sectors and then
in november we're going to
continue to do our visits in the
industrial park and do also do
outreach to the manufacturing and
outdoor recreation
so the bri process we spent a few months
like i said doing setup so this is where
we
talked to our all of our partners and
figured out what programs are already in
place so that way
when a business says that they need
something we can go and say
oh so the sbdc can assist you with this
and we can make that connection for them
and from there we did we set up our
framework
which is what i the timeline basically i
just described to you
and the rest of this is all it's
continuous all the time so
gaining support that's our emails and
our phone calls we're letting them know
this is happening
we're doing the information gathering
now even though we haven't met
one on one with businesses yet we have
already had businesses say
you know hey we're thinking about
expanding or you know we need
workforce development so we've already
started making those connections
uh once we do the the visits we're gonna
analyze the results and this is when
filling in the gaps comes in we figure
out we
we pair the businesses with their needs
with our partners and then
we um we start filling in the gaps and
we report our findings we figure out
you know our next steps and this is
continuous so
you'll hear sometimes that business say
that
they hear from us and then they never
hear from us again that's not what bre
is about
we are going to always be in contact we
are they are going to know that they can
come to us at any point
and they are guaranteed at least one
visit a year uh to go
over their business and their needs and
determine if there's a way
any way we can assist them so um we'll
continue to do this we'll keep
pairing them up with their needs as long
as they need it
so that's kind of the process and that's
what we're going to be moving into with
manufacturing next
as i said uh we met with our partners
oh there you go as and you can see that
we have quite a few partners
involved in this i'm i love the
relationships we've
gotten with this and how much everybody
wants to be involved in this because
we're all in it together we're here to
help the businesses so this is just
a slide of all the partners we have so
far and we are
adding partners all the time as we
realize that we still have gaps we need
to fill in
and we've come up with four basic focus
areas
for businesses so we have innovation
financial growth
and training right now obviously
financial is one of the biggest ones
because of coven 19.
but these are our four main areas that
we have discovered with all of our
partners that we are able
to assist businesses now that doesn't
mean that's all we have
you know if somebody has a need that we
don't feel like a partner fits with we
will do the best we can to
assist them how we can
so our next steps is that we are going
to continue to meet with the
west mesa industrial park businesses
we're going to pair them up with the
needs with the resources
figure out the gaps we have and then
we're going to move on in the next month
or so to manufacturing and outdoor
recreation
and other than that with uh with cover
19 like i mentioned we do have other
business recovery programs in place that
we've been
working on beyond bre so even though we
have such a small area of the city that
we're focusing on bre we have other
programs in place and
if a business comes to us and wants to
do a visit or wants to do a consultation
we will do that so
we are not just focusing only on that
area it's just
to get the program in place we wanted we
didn't want to take on the entire city
all at once
but some of these other programs we have
we are partnering with
nmsu's arrowhead center to do a bit what
we call bizprint
and so these are business accelerators
and in
we've had two different cohorts one from
august to september and one is starting
this month and going through november
and we've assisted a total of 30
businesses
and um it is an eight-week program that
is assisting businesses during covid so
marketing e-commerce all um all that
information
that you need to be successful in a
pandemic basically
we also have with the arrowhead center
we're starting a social media program it
actually just started
it's six rounds where we're gonna
they're gonna assist 72 businesses
and this is social media basics it goes
back to the marketing
and getting your business online and
this will be going on from october to
um to december december
lift fund is an organization we are
partnering with and
uh they do by bilingual business con
counseling and technical assistance and
they have monthly digital workshops that
we're
they're doing as part of this and the
one coming up this month is actually on
wednesday
and it's also on marketing we have
they're partnering with the arrowhead
center and with the green chamber and so
this month has really been focusing on
the marketing aspect because
we found out a lot of the needs that
businesses have right now is
getting their getting online and getting
like selling themselves online so that's
kind of
where our focus has been which is why i
keep reiterating that we're doing
marketing
um as you guys know we have the the
small business
continuity grant which is the cares
funding
and we also have a business concierge on
staff um
donald bustos is our business concierge
so anytime it's for business development
and business assistance
anytime a business needs anything they
can call or email him
and he will you know point them in the
right direction
or assist them however he can and we
have recently updated our website
with the economic development portion
with business support so all this
information
is on our website and you can click on
links that'll take you directly to
signing up for these programs and
they're all free so businesses can do
that they can sign up for
the webinars whatever we have going on
it'll all be on that website
so with that i will stand for questions
well thank you elizabeth too bad you
couldn't go faster but
it's still good just kidding looks like
councillor flores and sorg had their
hand up or from last time
did you guys have questions mr mayor yes
i just wanted to comment that uh i'm
really pleased that this uh
is happening this is working here in in
the city
and that we're doing this this is what i
referred to as
economic guard part of economic garden
uh gardening
um you know eight years ago so um
i'm so glad we're doing this and and
elizabeth eaters you did an excellent
job presenting it
and i appreciate that and um
i um i thought i had a question but i
think i
uh i think she answered it pretty well
so
carry on and uh thank you so much thank
you
mayor pro tem
thank you um elizabeth and economic
development department they did present
this to
our econ prc and we asked that it be
brought to the council as a whole
um i think i i'm
really impressed with um
how quickly the department has pivoted
to help many businesses
i do want to say um i i
was a little concerned about the pilot
being at the west
mesa industrial park um
that i thought during covid um there
were other
bigger issues um but i i
also know that as they start it seems
like they're getting some traction where
folks want to expand their their um
their businesses so i think that's
that's great um
my questions are around um
your do you have a metric like what
metrics performance metrics
are you do you have in terms of this
pilot
and what evaluation component exists
so that you can go back and improve
moving forward or change things right
in the midst of things aren't quite
working like you think they need to
we don't actually have any performance
metrics written out but we have been
keeping track of every
business we've been talking to or you
know when we make the phone calls
if a business answers and they actually
have conversations we
we've been keeping track of positive and
negative conversations that
you know if if they're not interested
how many have showed up to the launch
how much
follow-up we're getting and how many are
interested so far in having the visit so
we're going to take this information
with this pilot
and we're hopefully going to move it
into manufacturing and if we need to you
know make some changes
and then when we get a better grasp on
the entire program
i think that's when we're going to be
able to come up with firm metrics
um on what what our expectations should
be
but as of now since it's just a pilot
we're we're testing the waters and we're
just keeping track of everything
and adjusting as we need to as we go
thank you elizabeth
are there other municipalities that have
similar programming that maybe i i guess
i'm concerned that there aren't metrics
there's not an evaluation component and
i
my recommendation would be is to look at
other municipalities that have similar
programs
um for me it's about
um i mean you
you have a hypothesis right i'm thinking
and
uh i'm hoping you have a hypothesis
right and the
work that you're trying to do is is is
trying to
to determine this is what our you want
for
in those two industries to you want to
bring them
and maybe it more like you want to
expand
i think is what it is um and so
i i i'm a little concerned that we don't
have that and
we should probably moving forward
um but those would be just the two
recommendations that i have
um currently um the other
airport looks like dr payatis and dr
martinez will both want to make a
comment
maybe they might be able to respond to
your your question
martinez yes mayor um mayor tem
um thank you for for that comment um
so what what elizabeth mentioned about
not having metro specific for the pilot
i think it's um we we go
the reason why we started it was to
continue to leverage on the
resources we have in our community and
put them in a systematic way
to serve businesses as employers right
and as
investors and so one of even though we
don't have
um a specific metric for like
the the launch date or the interactions
uh a metric for us would be job creation
as you mentioned
any expansion of real stage
so if they're interested in purchasing
other parcels of land or they're looking
to
expand their current facility those
would be
metrics that we are tracking and they're
part of our peak performance as well
um also in the business support programs
um part of the participants information
that they're providing to us
includes a number of
employees right now like when they start
the program
number of employees after the program
and the number of employees
180 days after they complete the program
the same goes with sales so that's
another really important metric for a
business right and then
that translates into a vibrant economy
so the
participants in the business support
programs they are reporting number of
sales
when they start the program at the end
of the program and then
180 days after so those are the metrics
that we
are utilizing right now for instance for
businesses at the airport we have
another
metric which is facilities
um list out right square footage of
facilities
another one would be if we have new
hanger space
that's another metric we have as part of
the airport
so we we have all these metrics at the
strategic plan level that we're tied
into
all the different programs that we are
implementing through the
through the different programs i hope
that answers your question
you did thank you dr um martinez i
appreciate that i just i just want to
make sure
um that that we have a plan a clear plan
with deliverables i think that's really
important and that you're that you're
testing those out as you're moving
through it
and changing as you go but also at the
ends
reevaluating and saying yeah this didn't
quite work out
the way we needed to and another
suggestion would be because i didn't
hear it
is typically i hear we don't have the
workforce right and we need workforce
training
or retraining retooling those kinds of
things and maybe a metric should be
centered around something like that
because i hear that a lot
um i also hear when we talk about
industry manufacturing that
people um entities that are looking at
us look specifically if there's
warehouse
types right large warehouses that we
don't have
and and so i'm not sure if you're still
hearing that
um moving forward but i
i know that those are all really
important
um when i've talked to like our partners
greater chambers
and mavida so with that said
um you'd mention that they're working
with you um
and i've always been concerned about um
duplication
i know some of this work mabida and
others have done this
how are we not duplicating and how are
you using
um mavida together to sort of lift
you know this this um pilot
um to the place where i think you would
like to see it
um yes mayor mayor putin
as you saw in the slide where elizabeth
shows the partners we definitely believe
in partnerships and collaboration
and preventing duplicating efforts
and so as we are getting the feedback
from the business owners
what we're doing is we're basically um
finding out in this ecosystem if there
is the service that is already providing
the help that they need and then if
there is not
how can we participate in influencing
filling in that gap and so
early in the bre process that elizabeth
mentioned
movida was at the table to talk about
this program
and to provide they provided their
feedback and
they're in constant communication with
us in which we are
informing them of the process and the
things that we are doing
and so um we're we're constantly
asking about um historic data that they
have had with leads which
which is something that we do we
start the process and then they complete
it right
and so this is this is a um
an effort that needs all of us working
together and we're putting a big effort
in making sure that we do that
in every single instance um and so
um and then connecting the dots like for
the
social media support program uh we
started with
that program actually started through a
conversation with the green chamber
we went to a couple of possible options
on helping us create the program
and once the program was created with
different
um elements then arrowhead center
that is it's the the one that we have
the direct
partnership for that program now they're
partnering with the green chamber to
then
have a pipeline for the green chamber
and other things that they're working on
so it's in addition to that
we are having regular meetings with the
business service providers to make sure
that we are
talking among ourselves and and
and these ideas that come up based on
needs that we hear from the business
community
we work together towards addressing
those those gaps
okay if i can interrupt looks like
elizabeth peters wants to jump in also
yes i may or may approach him to follow
up on what dr
martinez said uh you know when we're
talking to our partners a good example
of making sure we're not duplicating is
movita right now or they were working
with the business out in the industrial
park on workforce
so they made us aware of that so now
when we go
visit you know we can say to them hey we
know you're working with mavida on this
but let's
focus on is there any other needs that
we can assist you with
so that we're not going and we're just
not basically asking the same thing that
they're
they're asking we're doing the same
thing when we
interviewed with all of our partners you
know we asked them how much
interaction have you had in the
industrial park what are you currently
doing out there so that when we
we go to these visits we're all very
prepared and we're not
we know how busy businesses are so the
last thing we want to do is just keep
bothering them with the same information
over and over again sure
sure i can appreciate that thank you um
you mentioned all the resources that the
city has offered through economic
development like bisprint
your lyft fund and then the email one
what would
uh las cruces what are you calling it
the one to help
say that again you were kind of the
social media program
yes yes the social media sorry i can't
read my handwriting
i i stopped at social and literally what
is that
um so i i noticed that
on the lyft fund it was just by
bilingual was emphasized um i have heard
some feedback about
um
i'm concerned that we are not doing
um bilingual programming and um and what
i mean by that
is when you offer out the training that
it's bilingual
meaning simultaneous translation um
not just things that you're handing to
people or that someone
in the group speaks spanish i think it's
important that
um that that in these programs that we
offer
awful um simultaneous translation or
some some kind of translation
i've been in enough meetings and
conferences and different things
especially in this in this um neck of
the woods that
you know a lot of folks should be um
versed at that i know there's quite a
few um folks that
are are you know that can do that that's
takes quite a skill to be able to do
that but i i just want to
make sure that we're meeting that demand
and that in all aspects that we can and
you know i've heard some feedback and
and i just wanted to give that to you i
think these are awesome programs
i'm getting now calls i see the
advertising on
the social media platforms that i have
and and i want you to know the word is
getting out just today i got a call that
they said they heard on the radio
about the small business um continuing
cares um funding so that's awesome
it's really neat to see that people now
are are really listening
in and they want to know how to to you
know to read who do they reach out to
kind of things so
all the work that you're doing there to
get it out is is happening
so thank you for that thanks mayor
that's all my questions thank you dr
martinez you had something else
yes just to address the
bilingual spanish and english um
the the best prince they're not
currently offered in spanish however we
um had actually a conversation on friday
with the arrowhead team and
we are talking about how do we make that
possible
for next year and then for lyft fund
they actually hired somebody to do the
technical assistance
business visitations and his um
bilingual english and spanish as well as
all the webinars that are being offered
they were actually holding two separate
um webinars one in english and one in
spanish
and because of the low enrollment on the
spanish ones that
what they have actually done is they
have a tool
that you download an application on your
on your phone and in simultaneous
translation so that tool is available
and will continue to
make sure that language is not a barrier
to access to resources
okay thank you dr martinez i really
appreciate that i i
i just think uh honestly and with the
advertise i just
i've seen it in english i haven't seen
it in spanish so i
i think that's a barrier it's a reason
why maybe
we don't have the spanish speakers right
at the table
um is because everything that's going on
i want to say
is in english or what i've seen and
maybe i'm not at the right sites or
whatever
but i think again anything that we do to
put out there on any social media
platforms should be both in english and
spanish
thank you all right well that um
thank you very much for that
presentation i think that concludes that
is that right uh elizabeth and dr
martinez
all right great okay so before we
and i'm going to put counselor bait to
stevie on the spot
if if um would you happen to know i i
received some stuff over the
email and i'm sure the others have i
can't have the others comment on this
but
can you give us an update about these
trees that's that are allegedly going to
be all
knocked down or cut down i think it's
got a lot of people on uproar i told
some gentlemen
i said you know what i i think we're
just gonna go after some dead trees that
are on
in your district and i don't think we're
gonna knock down all these trees
can you just give us a quick update yes
thank you mayor um yes tomorrow
uh evening from 5 30 to 6 30
pm we'll be having our first um public
participation meeting um to discuss the
conway avenue
uh tree canopy and there is about
16 to 20 trees that are dead or
posing a safety liability hazard out of
in the area and so it's the first of the
public meetings
to discuss that tree canopy
safety maintenance and as it's an aging
area
we're going to talk about just aging
infrastructure and what the community
wants to see in the future
so it is just the start of a few
meetings just to get the community
together
um to discuss what they want to see but
also to look at the safety
issue that we have with a few of those
trees there's going to be many community
partners
and staff available to answer questions
if
the public would like to participate
they can go to www
dot loss dash cruises dot
o r g slash engage and register to link
and they can register uh with the zoom
it's a zoom webinar so we're going to be
debuting it
and if they'd like to attend i have
a little invitation right here hold that
up for a little bit
and like i said it's the first of a few
discussions so
thank you mayor okay well thank you okay
and then also did you all
uh attend any of you the open meetings
act um
training put on by the attorney general
well you did
so one thing that i caught out of that
was and i
i always kind of wondered about it but
when we adjourn
and i just say all those in favor they
had suggested that we have a roll call
vote
to let the public know who's actually
here
so if that's one thing that i picked up
so i'm probably going to do that
all right well if there's nothing
further then i guess i'll take a have a
motion a second to adjourn
okay a motion made by a counselor
gandara and second by counselor beta
stevie so christine can you call the
role please to adjourn
sure so this is on the motion to adjourn
the work session
counselor beta stevie yes
counselor vasquez yes
counselor ben comel yes
counselor yes
concert florist yes
councillor gandera yes and mayor
yes okay good all right well we're
adjourned it's 4 25 p.m
so thank you very much oh i won't be
leaving i'll stick around for the agenda
setting
and but we'll see you all a little bit
later
yeah did you attend that meeting
christine the attorney general
i didn't because i was off that day oh
okay um
but i really wanted to and i had all my
staff attend it was pretty good like i
said that's something i picked up
uh all the rest i think we're all doing
pretty good stuff
okay yes i'm glad you asked christine if
she was there because i have a question
about that i was just going to sit in on
this meeting agenda setting but
so why would it make a difference as to
who's
still who voted to adjourn
i mean robert rules of order doesn't
require
yeah i don't think they they don't
recognize rules of order but
i think it it validates whether or not a
quorum was present
i see thank you that makes sense
anything else you want to know
yeah but i thank you
all right uh you ready yes i am all
right this is the agenda setting meeting
for
the uh october 19 2020 city council
meeting
number one non-consent one non-consent
two non-consent
two non-consent three consent three
consent
for non-consent for non-consent five
non-consent
five non-consents
six consent six consent
seven non-consent seven non-consent and
eight non-consent
eight non-consent great thank you
thank you see y'all later
bye
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