[Music] you're on now good morning this is yvonne flores chair of this committee the animal service center of navito valley it is 2 am i know 3 am and i'm now calling the meeting to order we have a quorum and item 2 on the agenda is changes to the agenda are there any changes um approval of the agenda madam chair this is commissioner sanchez do we need to take uh do we need to take an official roll call to determine you know what you're absolutely right that's the new thing now right so mr donald would you please take the welcome uh gladly madam chair david dalon for the record uh um the commissioner uh councillor beta stevie yeah uh counselor mayor protegra here uh commissioner sanchez president um i'm david i'm the ex-official member from the city i'm president jeannie quintero president and madam chair flores president uh you have corpsman [Music] did you call lynn allen's name sorry uh commissioner ellens yes did you call his name no ma'am i did not but i didn't see him on the oh i see you're looking at the participants list okay so we do have if he joins or if commissioner gonzalez joins uh um be sure to point that out at the time okay two of them yes thank you thank you mr shah thank you very much so we shall proceed may i have a motion to accept the uh except first of all are there any changes to the agenda if none may i have a motion to approve a minute mr b thank you all in favor aye no you have to take them madam chair i'll call the roll uh okay thank you thank you councillor beta steven yes councillor gandra here i mean um yes welcome to my world commissioner sanchez yes chair flores chair flores yes yes uh motion carries madam chair thank you thank you mr john uh next is the minutes um did everyone have a chance to look at them to review them to see if there's any substantive changes i have no changes madam chair elser stevie not mad object commissioner sanchez i don't care i i'm fine with the minute says this i apologize no okay yes no whatever thank you well we're off to a good start where's our cup where's our coffee we need coffee okay thank you so much madam chair we need a second and i'll call the roll on the minute approval yes may i have a motion to approve this is commissioner sanchez i'll move approval second second on beta stevie thank you thank you [Music] yes uh count counselor beta student councillor gandra yes commissioner sanchez yes chair flores yes motion carries manager thank you mr delahan uh next is our reports and presentations uh miss gene gilbert nice to be here nice to see you so would you please uh present good morning everyone good morning um i'm gene gilbert a secretary coalition for pets and people and uh here is the listing of community organizations that will be represented in this in this month's uh powerpoint organizations that aren't listed will be featured in next month's uh presentation okay next slide please uh the cole here's the highlights of some of the coalition's work for september and october which includes some pardon uh this includes uh presenting the community animal welfare report uh which was uh the last ascmv meeting september the 24th we had a brief visit and tour of cat's meow with board member michelle craya leading the tour and there was also a public discussion this was with clint of conversations with the center and that was october the 2nd and october the 8th um i did um visited um deming animal guardians and had a meeting with pat dancer and visited the deming animal guardians silver whiskers thrift store and uh in addition there's uh just ongoing work with our various uh projects thank you madam charlie please yes i'm sorry is it okay to ask questions or you want to wait to the end of the presentation i'm fine with you asking questions if it's okay with everyone else it's fine by me so that was your question thank you madam chair thank you gene um i i i'm really excited about the conversations with the animal services center um can you give in a little more detail about what those conversations um are you know comprised of and if there were um opportunity to come up with any strategies i remember last week last month we spoke to you know some of the things that that i think the um your coalition and some of the animal groups are experiencing and you know the animal services center and so i was hoping that we could have these types of conversations and have you know those specific items addressed during those times so can you tell me a little more specifically with those conversations yes well and and i know clint will probably speak more to it during his uh presentation but they are zoom meetings that are held the first friday of the month and uh it's my my understanding i believe this is the third one and um i know i've certainly enjoyed participating mayor of uh some of the people that have been in the meetings or in the conversations have been representatives of animal organizations um for one example i can think of is kelly barker who is the director of the organization formerly known as of uncaged paws but is now known as bark house and uh this lat um how clint has it set up and of course he can tell you in his presentation but we hear brief reports and updates from all the managers and all of his team which has been very insightful and very informative and then people who attend the meeting are invited to uh ask questions and make comments and and this last meeting i know a suggestion of mine i had a number of questions that i presented to clint but one of them was wondering about the pet of the month if the pet of the month could be both a cat and a dog and if um that might be something under consideration and i was just thrilled that it seemed like it was like the next week that the pet of the week was both a cat and a dog excuse me and um i know um there are probably a number of organizations in addition to the coalition but we post the pet of the week every every week on our on our facebook page and share it to our other animal pages because we want to get as much visibility as possible for for these animals and i hope i answered your question your uh inquiry cassandra yeah i appreciate that gene i i just know that i i am if you've mentioned them before i haven't seen it and i just wanted to make sure that um you know the issues that maybe come up here or for others in these animal groups said that would be an opportunity to speak to that and and get you know more of a collective um voice and um moving forward to address any issues that maybe the center and you all are having so i appreciate um giving more details thank you gene thank you better chair thank you next slide please two hearts four paws is located in radium springs and in their their presence is very important because radium springs is an underserved community and this is reflected in a outdoor mobile clinic that they held with dr carver august the 20th they reported doing 26 rabies shots and they implanted 14 microchips for for pets at that clinic they advocate for stray and homeless animals like this six-year-old dog lucky who they're helping with temporary care until he can act until he is adopted thank you next slide please action programs for animals reports 10 animals were adopted during the month of september to include little opie who's pictured here and 13 animals were transported to rescue and new homes during the month of september apa took in 50 animals during the month of september to include kittens and some were featured at their thrift store anniversary and little paisley pictured here um is getting around in her wheel cart at apa's facility and little paisley was also out there um anniversary observation at the thrift store apa's adoption numbers stand at 136 for january through september with 71 transfers and their numbers and stats are reported in the in the board members packets that the coalition provided okay next slide please um apa expresses appreciation for kelly barker's organization barkhouse which i referenced earlier formally known as uncaged paws and they express their appreciation for transporting 15 uh felines of apa felines by air and this was october the 17th to new homes in san diego bark house had three flights scheduled this month with pet rescue pilots and dog is my co-pilot the october 12 flight was for moms and puppies and those numbered 25 and october 17th as i mentioned was a cats only flight and october 20th was a flight for big dogs the coalition will report more information on bark house in their flights they'll be featured in next month's powerpoint thank you and next slide please and this is broken promises these photos highly highlight the life-saving work that broken promises does with their trap neuter and return or release rescue fostering and adoption services toby pictured with his new owner is shown here at the petsmart store where broken promises operates the category there also pictured is the ninth cat out of a colony of nine that broken promises successfully uh tnr here uh recently um broken promises reports tnr and 15 cats and adopting out about five felines for september the 7th excuse me for september the 1st through october the 7th their totals are about 50 cats tnr'd and 28 adopted for uh january through october the 7th okay thank you next slide please cat's meow has taken in a lot of cats and kittens this year to include this adorable litter uh pictured here nestled together uh cat's meow adopted out of 35 cats and kittens for the month of september bringing their total to nearly 200 for january through september they've been extremely successful jesse james cat's meow kitty pictured here has found his new home after being featured at better live pets foods and this business has a kiddie showcase and they use it to help promote felines that are from area rescue so i better like pet foods as we know does a lot of wonderful work for the community cat's meow is holding a virtual auction um with reg with registration occurring right now and their bidding uh begins october the 28th and goes through october the 30th thank you next slide please cherish canines helps a lot of community animals including dogs from our shelter such as this mom dog and three pups who were recently placed in their foster care the mom dog and pups were intercepted when carla baker cherished canine's director was at the shelter to pick up some paperwork she learned from the person who was turning in the dogs that they were found in a construction site they were confined to a crate had been abandoned there and they were covered in fleas and ticks maggie pictured far right was born in cherish canines care and has been with them for a year and a half until she was recently adopted and she joins a family and you can see kendall pictured on the other side of her there and kendall is also a cherished canines dog who was adopted a few years ago so there's a cherished canine family there they do amazing work thank you next slide please johnny ann and county humane society is are holding fundraisers this month to include a 5k run october the 31st and a halloween costume contest october the 23rd and of course these are all virtual their uh programs include their animal relief fund or called arf they're rough to ready which is a behavior intervention and training program for pet retention to keep animals who are adopted and these are shelter animals to keep them in their homes and then their pets for seniors program which discounts adoption fees for shelter animals adopted by people 60 years or older so in other words doc's mission is really basically entirely for the animal shelter which is which is awesome next slide please excuse me dona ana county humane society here is represented again marley's pictured here and is one of the many animals helped by the dona ana county humane society's animal relief fund in addition to their october fundraisers which i mentioned docs held a double your impact virtual fundraiser with donors matching contributions by supporters within a defined range for furthering the donate county humane society's programs which i've already uh mentioned and then of course a couple of months before last i believe i mentioned that dona ana county humane society has moved from their location which was uh on picacho they've moved to um to their offices at 424 north main next slide please the humane society of southern new mexico has adopted 16 animals um year-to-date so january through october the 15th including this bichon poodle mix here pictured left about a dozen animals are currently in hsn's foster program including the puppy pictured here in the lap of board member frank bryce and jeff murphy funds from the humane society's yard sale like this one which was held october the 3rd and other fundraising events support the organization's pet helpline in securing resources for animals in need plus hsn's foster adoption program education program as well as financial assistance that hsn provides for microchipping spay and neuter and other veterinarian services and some of the work through the pet helpline is noted in the board members packets with hsn with hsnm stats okay and next slide please in addition to free animal themed books and materials that are awarded to children for participating in hsn's online story videos and and as you in activities hsn is also offering a 50 ally in education award to animal nonprofits for every three supporters who participate designating their organization there's no restriction on age of participants so the offer applies to adults as well as youth participants hsnm is granted to ally in education actually it's three um as of now three ally in education awards so far this fall with uh 21 i think believe that's closer to 24 individuals now viewing the online story videos promoting humane treatment towards animals so hsn is really thrilled that their online education program and their allies program is starting to catch on next slide please october is pit bull awareness month educate don't discriminate the coalition encourages people if they're in a position to adopt an animal to adopt from the shelter adopt from our area rescues and if you are in a position to to have a larger dog we um we encourage you to adopt a pit pit ball mix and i you know that apa often holds the pits for peace and of course we're missing that this year uh because of the need to um social distance and not hold events but they've done a lot to promote awareness about pitbull animals so that they are not discriminated against unfortunately our community is very good about that sadly some communities have laws that have have banned them which is very very unfortunate and the last slide the coalition encourages uh people to volunteer and even in this time of covet and having the social distance there's still many opportunities for us and that includes rescuing adopting and fostering among many other other things thank you for your time and i'll stand for any questions if if you have any thank you does anyone have any questions for gene gilbert thank you very much ms gilbert thank you for all your work and um thank you thank you you're welcome excuse me next item on the agenda is city and county aco reports gino or marilu can you all hear me yes great so these headphones are working good then i'll go ahead and start if that's okay with you gino absolutely thank you okay let me go ahead and start my screen sharing and let me start this can can you all see my screen yes i can yes we can or i can thanks because i am not seeing it here on my side um okay i think i got it here um okay we'll go ahead and start with um donate counties are september report so the format's going to be just a little bit different and i'll go over it as we go over the report so our grand total of dispatch calls for september was 501 calls we had 5 81 self-initiated calls and 22 animal control assist calls so gave us a grand total of 608 calls for the month of september reported straight calls for september we had 240 reported stray calls we picked up 91 stray cats 109 stray dogs which gave us a total of 200 straight animals animals additional animals that were picked up that were not the stray animals that were reported were we had no reports for owner surrender cats but we had 13 owner surrender dogs 22 sick or injured animals 15 welfare holds one report of an animal cruelty or neglect abuse case and then of course seven shelter quarantines and i put this together just as the field return to owner three-year comparison just so it'd be kind of a comparison to the cities as well so this is a three-year comparison um our field return for september was 19 which gave us a year to date of 294 field return to owner now as requested by commissioner ellens um separating those return animals stray animals picked up as per by commissioner district um i separated those by commissioner district but if you look at the little asterisks you're going to see which indicates shared stats because the commissioner districts run together so as those districts get reported to us they are geo districts and so through the 911 call center that's how they get reported to us and so that's our stats get reported so i tried to separate those out as much as i could so some of those stats are going to be shared stats so if you look at those they're not going to be completely true on that but i do have them later on separated again by geo districts so i tried to completely separate them as much as i could so if you go into district 1 which is commissioner ellen's we had 19 cats picked up and 21 dogs commissioner district 2 which is commissioner gonzalez which is 36 cats and 30 and 35 dogs commissioner three which is which is um commissioner reynolds um that's district three there's 19 dogs and 21 cats again those are shared districts because a lot of those districts the the communities run in together commissioner solis's district which is district 4 we had 18 cats and 29 dogs and then again district 5 which is commissioner sanchez 18 dogs and 24 cats so now are the geo districts so we don't have any shared stats on these and you can look at them as just the geo districts as they are through the 911 call center as they come in district 1 through district 7 and it'll give you your cats versus your dogs and i won't go over them all but you can see what we've picked up there our bike calls um we had 17 exposure bites to humans two exposure bites to animals three rabies submissions those were all negative um animals that were current on the rabies vaccinations from the bites exposures were three and then we had seven quarantine at the animal services center so out of those seven five of those um bite animals were from one we had we had two of them were from one household so we had five animals and so we had like three dogs from one household and two from another household um we had we didn't in quarantine anything at the courthouse facility we still had three animals that were still housed from a prior case we had nothing at the vet clinic at this time and three home quarantines and then we had 10 animals that were gone on arrival going into the reasons for owner release we had two animals that were too aggressive we had nine that they could no longer care for and couldn't handle the dog and then we had two for exigent circumstances the animals were malnourished and mistreated and going into our court cases we had four animal control cases that went to court for september those four court cases had eight charges which equaled out to about 16 and a half hours of regular hours five hours of overtime four of those cases were dismissed um from one case of one officer who was unavailable that's due because the officer has been out for an extended period of time we had two cases continued we had a guilty and one sent for bench trial added information on the court cases these were the reason for the citations we had one that was issued for a pet license two citations issued were for restraint requirements those were the citations that were issued on those charges that they went to court on two were also issued for rabies control violation requirements and one was for multiple animals site permit this was not on your handout i got this information a little bit late so i just added it because i thought it was important to put it in there and i apologize for that um this was a snap reports from september they reported that they did 33 dogs and cats that were neutered 18 um dogs and dogs that were spayed and neutered excuse me 18 cats that were spayed and neutered 48 rabies vaccinations and 51 microchips that were done for the donand county contract they have with us so this wasn't questions that were from the last meeting we had from commissioner ellen's in regards to the animal control court cases he asked what was the charge was for in regards to the guilty court outcome with the two hundred dollar fine the answer to that was for a restraint requirement on a dog that was running loose so for that i'll send for any questions [Music] are there any questions mary lou i have a question um on your district pickups you said that there were there were sure there was uh i can't read my handwriting there were shared stats which were duplicated does that mean um does that mean that instead of 16 um what what does that mean when they're duplicated does it mean that uh the numbers so exactly or what so whenever we get whenever we get animals reported strays by the 911 call center they come in as districts through the 911 through a geo district that's the same district that the sheriff's department uses and that's how the statistical information gets reported to us and that's how the we have been keeping track track of the stats for all these years so to separate it up by commissioner district it's a little bit more difficult for us because those districts can run together like say commissioner ellen's and commissioner reynolds some of their districts can can overlap each other in regards to the geo district so so would that mean i'm sorry to interrupt otherwise i'll forget i mean i won't process um so does that mean mary lou that they're they're the stats are skewed then because they're reported in district and another district that's only one animal but they're that that means if we were to only report it that way they would be but that's why i don't want to report it only that way that's why i tried to report it two separate ways because i think it's important to show the geo districts because then the numbers do not get shared but if we do it just by the commissioner district there's no way of separating separating out those geo district stats because if you look at like maybe mesquite and vato those areas by a geo district they're going to be shared by the commissioners um versus you know like any other way to actually separate those stats so somebody were to own or release a dog or if we were to pick up a stray it's really hard to know exactly where it's coming from on in regards to that so we only know it by the geo district so i tried to separate it out as much as i could in regards to that um but it would be a shared stat so i just it kind of gives a commissioner a little bit of an idea um what they're looking at in their district but at the same time you know it's taken with a grain of salt it's not a true stat but you still have that geo district which gives you the true numbers the true numbers great thank you so much mary lou what is meant by geo does it mean geographical what is what does that mean yes okay thank you any other questions any other questions folks speak now forever hold your peace thank you very much thank you so gino are you ready for your yes ma'am excuse me good morning good morning how's everybody everybody's fine good let me see if i can get this going get to go outside so can everybody see my slideshow yes very good thank you so madam chair members of the board my name is gino jimenez i'm the animal control supervisor for the city of las cruces um i will present to you our september numbers september 2020 so for the month of september we were we responded to 370 straight calls of those 186 were goa meaning gone on arrival we were able to apprehend 184 of those animals um 158 of them were impounded at the animal service center of those 65 were dogs and 93 were cats we were successful in field rtoing 26 animals uh we were unsuccessful and filled our tearing five and those five are included with those animal service shelter impounds so we had a total of 32 identifiable animals so here is our three-year comparison chart as you can see our straight chart i'm sorry our numbers are really going low and historically this is the time of year where our numbers start going down anyways um but for the month of september we did respond to 370 calls for service and for the year we're at three thousand seven hundred and eighty six here is our three year chart for our field rtos again for the month of september we were able to field rto 26 animals and for the year that puts us at 285 so our reasons for not being able to field rto the five um there was no contact by phone or at the residence resident here's one that it's really really i i believe it's a good thing um reasons for owner releasing animals we had none for the month of september i know that the officers are taking more time with people and let me back up we have had many requests for citizens wishing to own or release their animals however the officers have been spending time with them and letting them know that maybe the best option for that animal is for the the owner to re-home it themselves are uh to educate them and then the final option would be to own a release it to the animal service center so at this time in order to help the animal service center we are only taking owner releases where the animal poses a threat to the family or to the public meaning it's aggressive for some reason or the other is because it is sick or injured and the owner cannot provide that medical care that it needs so i think i believe for this month this is a good number for us and hopefully this trend continues so here is my map let me i'm going to go and skip forward to the other ones i'm sorry for some reason it didn't upload let me grab it real quick okay can everybody see my map no i can't i don't know about others the only slide that's up right now geno is questions okay gino i would suggest just oh there it is there it is all right let me let me get it to this month so here is our map of the city and this will show the number of stray animals that were impounded by the officers and to go back to what mary lou was saying we follow the same reporting system because we get our information from central dispatch however our gis department was able to break it up into council districts but if you were to get an actual the true report would show it as police districts for us some instances uh let's just say the corn the the um the boundaries right here between districts one three and one two and three where my my cursor is this could be actually district police police beat district 1 but it encompasses three different council districts so that's why those numbers aren't always true however for the mapping our gis was able to pinpoint it to council districts which is a little more helpful so let me zoom out a little bit if anybody has any questions about the mapping please let me know if you need me to zoom in on a certain area but overall here is september's 2020 september numbers which are we see i i all i see gino are the you know the dots or the little squares yes ma'am okay thank you very much um the orange represents cat the blue represent dogs and you'll see the little red dots represent other those could be skunks squirrels javelinas bobcats um mountain lions uh anything other than dogs and cats goats if you'd like i can go to this one right here click on it and it'll tell me exactly what transpired on that call [Music] squirrel why would anybody call on a squirrel i'm dude or not excuse me squirrels can get pretty destructive um especially if they're trying to den under somebody's shed they can weaken the concrete under it and also um if they get into your engine compartment for some reason they really like the plastic coating on the wiring on engines so they will eat that away and eventually it could cause a short in your motor so that's true that you're not talking to uh mayor pro temps car i think at one point what's the other the other thing you don't want them in your attic space yes right and i had squirrels in a house i used to own um or live in uh has a chimney and they got in through the chimney and they chewed away i guess they're trying to get out so they chewed away at the um what do they call the the blinds the wooden blinds and they were just running you know i thought somebody broke into the house and it really made a mess out of my um they were running all over the house and we finally you know we called the police department and they came and said it was just squirrels it wasn't an intruder but yeah you're right you're right they yeah i forgot about those little squirrels thank you geno you're welcome and i think it's it's good to note that um all we do is relocate them we take them out a little bit further from the community so that i mean we don't want to harm them in any way so we just take them out where they can thrive better in their own environment rather than ours yeah yeah yeah and with that madam chair i will stand for any questions madam chairman yeah yes mr sanchez commissioner sanchez proceed yeah gino i'm just curious um a couple of things i guess i'll add in i think the the reason for the wiring that we've seen more of that rise is uh not is because of the what they're actually making the the wire out of and i think it's like they make out of a soy product um now and so that's why the the the uh rodents have been attracted to them but um my question was i've seen a number of and i think on the daily reports from the animal service center and this might actually i don't know if you can answer this or this might be better suited for mr thacker um but there's been skunks that we've been that have been euthanized um and i've seen that i don't know if it's just me but it seems like there's been an uptick um on the number of skunks that have been euthanized so i was wondering is that something that you all get called and then uh they get taken into um the service center madam chair uh commissioner sanchez yes sir we are complaint driven so we are going to respond to those calls for services that the citizen calls us for um before covid we would actually loan out traps so that citizens could cause catch capture those nuisance animals like skunks after that we would take them to the animal service center for their disposition they they would choose either choose to euthanize them or relocate them now that covet has hit us we have stopped or suspended our trap program however we will still pick up animals from privately owned traps there is an uptick in skunks because it's becoming that time of year where things are starting to cool off and they're going to fatten up as much as they can so our calls for service for skunks has not stopped i don't know what clint's protocol is whether they get euthanized or relocated that is entirely up to him but if i can zoom in on my map you'll see that this area right here that runs along the ebid or close to the ebid that's where the majority of our skunks come from um so it's right this little corridor right through here brown road uh burn lake that area that's where the majority of our skunks come from um i don't know if if in his daily report it's showing higher numbers but on my reports um it's pretty consistent with skunk calls i hope that's okay yeah it does and i just and i i didn't know if and that's what i was trying to figure out i guess i i hadn't seen i just i didn't know if it was activity or what was driving it and so it makes a little sense or it makes it does make sense um and i don't know if mary lou is still on the call i'm just curious if um from the county's perspective do we do we do similar or uh where where we capture or we take into the service center or do we just uh i i think we we out source to the uh um if we just go go to the usda for a lot of those calls um we have a contract with the wildlife services the county does and so any skunk calls that we get goes automatically to them and so they will go out to those individuals houses and if they're nuisance animals if there's um if there's a safety involved public safety or whatnot they will educate first if they whatever they whatever the case is they give us a report um twice a year on what they're doing with these cases and then we re present that report to the to the county um and then either in some cases they have to euthanize the the skunks um in some cases they don't they can take them and they can pick them up but um most of the time you know it depends on what they're going out for but it's it's either if it's skunks or other type of wildlife um the wildlife services will go out we don't go out for any kind of wildlife services because we do have that contract with them okay thank you mary lou i appreciate it and thank you i appreciate the uh the clarification i just was curious like i said when i'm seeing um those updates from the service center um in particular the skunks caught my attention um so i appreciate the the uh the clarification on that you're welcome uh madam chair commissioner such as um also to piggyback on what mary lou was saying um we are we do have an mou with uh usda wildlife services and right now that contract is for them to provide services for predatory animals however there has been discussion for us to utilize them to address all wildlife calls so similar to what the county is doing right now okay thank you sir i appreciate that information thank you madam sure and thank you commissioner sanchez and thank you uh gino for that information i didn't know that the city had a contract with usda yes ma'am and and like i said for right now it's only predatory animals um like your coyotes your bobcats anything that's not protected through um new mexico game of fish but like i said we're trying to expand that for them to address more of the nuisance animals like the skunks do you have any uh numbers on on that gino do you do you get reports from usda because in order to to keep up a contract uh with usda you have to show stats i think to um to justify the need and to renew the contract am i correct in that yes madam chair yes ma'am you are um however i don't have those numbers those are reported directly to the deputy chief and that would that would be um uh lieutenant dc dc lieutenant danes i believe it would be interim uh deputy uh deputy interim chief dominguez right now ah okay all right thank you so much thank you so much gina you're welcome madam chair uh yes i'm sorry i don't have the participant so feel free to jump in uh yes sir uh i'm terry i just wanted to go on the record it's 9 56 but commissioner ellens did join us at 9 15 this morning thank you oh yes i did see that he um showed up thank you madam chair i have a quick question uh yes uh counselor beta stewie thank you and thank you gino um honestly i think it's more of a clarification um with what you just said uh if then a private resident um traps an animal themselves then it can be picked up and or is can you explain that process to me um as you know i've had an area um where there's an issue with cats but um that the person doesn't want is that an option for him to do is to uh independently trap the animal and to be picked up or is it something i know that we're not trying to send healthy animals of course to the shelter but it does look like they're it's okay in some cases and so i'm just trying to get clarification on that madam chair uh council avenue snoopy yes ma'am if a citizen wishes to trap cats we will still pick up those animals from their privately owned traps the reason that we have stopped issuing our traps is two parts um i think we were probably one of the biggest contributors of cats to the animal service center and at their request we have um limited that number and second of all um we are really trying to reduce our exposure to citizens as well as their exposure to us because the officers are all over town at any given time um so we really don't know where we have been exposed and then come in contact with another citizen there's that potential so we've really reduced that number and we thought that by suspending our trap program would help that so if a private citizen wishes to trap and like say we will still continue to pick up that animal from their trap we ask that um we limit their that exposure um just tell us where the trap is we will go uh remove that animal from the trap and then impound it there's no need to step outside and and greet us and you know get into a conversation we'll take care of that and move on to our next call i hope that answers your question it does thank you that does offer um some really good clarification and you know i do want to make sure we're mindful of your safety and the safety of the residents but um like i said this is one particular area that's it's a recurring issue now um for a few months so i'm trying to find opportunities for a bit of relief but also safety so thank you i appreciate that madam chair that's all my questions uh thank you uh councillor beta stevie and thank you uh gino uh do does anybody uh does anybody else have a question for gino or for mary lou okay thank you very much mary lou thank you geno and we'll proceed to um item 4c which is the shelters and activities clint thacker mr thacker i'm here i'm sure how are you doing today very well how are you doing great having a great day i have to apologize i have four kittens running around my office um and so if you see me with some pain that means they're climbing up my leg or they're just saying hi so um first i wanted to start off by uh sharing my screen here this is the drive through clinic totals can you see that madam chair yes okay great uh so the drive-through that we did in the drive-through clinic was on september 27th we had an incredible turnout biggest one we'd ever done it was at the tail shore theaters there by sam's club we used the old kmart parking lot as well so they started off in the kmart parking lot winding around in between the rows they went behind the theater and then came into the main part of the theater where they do the drive in right now and then they and then they exited through there uh we did 579 rabies vaccines um and this is from we had to start early because it's the incredibly huge line of cars that was already there at 8 o'clock in the morning so we started at 8 30 and was only supposed to go until one but we continued to go until two so we did 579 rabies 436 of the dhpp vaccines 240 bordetella and we implanted 217 microchips we saw 429 vehicles and we counted 688 animals that came through there so it was a phenomenal success once again it was so much so a success that we have applied for a grant through uh best friends animal society to see if we can get the equipment to do these quarterly down here in new mexico we have some unique challenges for instance heat is the biggest one uh so all these all these things uh is a pretty good financial investment uh if we want to do them quarterly and have places for staff to get out of the heat have places for the dogs that are in the cars everybody doesn't have air conditioner there's some some some that are secured in the back of a truck so in a carrier kind of thing so we just have to keep in mind and have ideas for all that not only that but the technology side um we're lacking a little bit too we have problems updating with our system uh the battery or the battery for the ipads and things are dying mid mid stuff so all these things we need to have purchasing for so we look forward hopefully in january to hear if we got that grant it's for forty thousand dollars but it's going to go specifically for these drive-through clinics so we had a lot of fun well i should say i had a lot of fun i don't think my co-workers had a lot of fun because they did most of the work so starting off i also do the director's report here can you still see my screen mountain chair yes thank you all right let me go back i had a cat step on my keyboard okay so our current animal count the center is 374. again that's much lower than it is uh thank you to our continuing success and continuing working at keeping our in impound numbers down through covet [Music] our intake is 642 that is 316 dogs and 298 cats and then we put the other in there so you have that and that's 28 other this is probably a good place we can talk about skunks um 24 of those others are skunks uh and that is commissioner sanchez he loves his math and so he is correct that is a double of what it was last month last month we had 12 skunks and then we compared to 2019 september numbers that was nine skunks so um i know that uh predatory animals and and also non-predatory animals go through a rotation base where you know one year there'll be a lot of predators so the prey is lower um and so it's cycles they're very cyclical cyclic like that so maybe this is an uptick on the skunks here to have that but we do have an increase now we sat down with the department of ag and also gino and david dalahan was there too and we were prior to this meeting last year we were media or we were releasing skunks we take them to the river bottoms in different areas and release some department of ag said absolutely not for several reasons one of them is the sickness if the skunk is sick and it's not showing any clinical signs at that time then we could wipe out a population of a lot of different things if we relocate it if it's ill the other one was in order to properly properly release an animal a test of the area has to be done for you know food water shelter so if in one month take this month for example if one month we release 24 skunks down by the river bottoms that would be an incredible influx and stress on the food water and shelter in that area so they they told us do not release any more skunks they need to be euthanized and that's the reason why we've changed our philosophy there we're still go ahead yes ma'am excuse me i thank um students for interrupting uh mr thacker what um who's saying who is saying to euthanize the um the skunks the department of agriculture is i can't remember the individual's name that we met with it's the wildlife services division of the usda madam chair and the the other thing is is the skunks have a greater propensity for contracting rabies than probably any other wildlife next to a raccoon so they don't want them released further a better solution that we would like to tell everyone from the animal control world is if the skunk is uh and skunks are nocturnal animals and you will see them mostly at sunset or daybreak um heading out or heading home you should leave them alone as much as possible and they shouldn't actually be trapping them unless they actually see them during the daylight and they um exhibit habits of being having rabies which would most likely cause the animal to be out during the daylight hours rather than the nocturnal hours i think an actual preference would be to tell the general public have your domestic animals and your people leave the skunks alone as much as possible they will go on about their business and they're really good at cleaning up bugs and other things in your yard so that would be a good public advertisement uh that that is a very good information mr and i totally agree that that's public information and we should probably get something out through our pio communications office as a or a psa to let people know because skunks i think people know that people just associate them with that funny odor but um the fact that they are uh can be rabid um should be uh something that people should be alerted to and for people to keep their um their house pets uh or other pets whatever uh well protected against that exposure could we do that mr dalahan or how would we proceed on getting this out to the public through psas and uh newspaper articles saying then use the sunday newspaper which i think has the highest circulation i will uh ask because officer animal control officer jimenez to work on something with our communications office for a press release thank you thank you mr dolan thank you and thank you senator in turn the center has a good following on facebook if we can get a copy of maybe a graphic or something from that piece we'll be happy to post it and then share it also to dog cruises and other places that have thousands and thousands of followers so great great great thank you mr thacker we we really do have to get that information out i i didn't realize i personally didn't know i know they stink but i didn't know that they were um ravenous so thank you so much i would i would say more times than not madam chair they're not uh rabbit um but they do have a greater propensity to be because they are rather prolific and so we have to be careful in our message because i don't want to cause a panic which could result in a different problem that people would want to harm them or capture them even more so right we probably won't publicly talk about it we're we're going to promote leaving them alone that's a good idea and and to trap only on the daytime or whatever yeah if they're out put you know traps okay great thank you thank you madam chair uh to continue on our returns of animals to the center in 2020 september we had six dogs and zero cats and the reasons for these returns they us4 were behavior problems and two animal has health issues for that our outcomes for september uh 2019 versus 2020. we're doing really well i believe the percentages are showing that 195 adoptions 70 reclaims 156 rescues 66 community cats and euthanasia was 24.5 it was a full percent less this year than it was last year at the same time that leaves us with a live release rate of 75.6 so i went ahead and asked um bernice what our live release rate would be if we didn't have to euthanize skunks it would actually jump up to 78 if if we weren't including those in our stats so we're still looking at we want to be very transparent we want to still tell people you know what we're euthanizing and show what we're euthanizing but on the other hand these are animals that we need to find a better alternative for uh than just euthanizing and i think we're on a good a good track with that like we're saying this is another new slide we have on here for euthanasia reasons that requested by the board um as you can see the medical respiratory signs for dogs and this this is not responding to treatments they've already gone to treatment we gave them the medicine and they're not responding to it so they need to be euthanized the biggest actual reasons why we euthanize you see here is the is feral for cats just being because the city has currently no program for the feral so if you come in from the city then you are going to be euthanized that's our biggest biggest reason there uh wildlife new nuisance says again it it doesn't necessarily have to be a nuisance you just have to be a skunk or a raccoon or whatever it comes in uh that will those are euthanized and and they continue to go down from there to the very smallest uh which is the timid this is some of the reasons for our sick and injured for euthanasia i know this was another question we had so 80 because it stems from the center only accepting the sick injured and aggressive animals right now from the public so the question is is well if we're only accepting those that's what we have to deal with they're more expensive and they're also more possibility of them being euthanized so what would our our live release rate be if we didn't have these sick ones and injured that are coming in and that's that's 87.7 percent so almost 88 percent would be that live release rate without these sick and injured guys uh 27 as you see not responding to treatments this is pretty much the same looking the same slide that we did just more of a spreadsheet version for our visitors we had 599 i guess i should have had my family come we could have made it even 600 for that and that i believe next year is going to see what our new standard is but that's a phenomenal number if you consider having to make appointments and only two at a time um if everybody was only two then that's that's 300 appointments we made in a month so that's great to see that total website page views 45 911 again that's all the month of september and if you remember this is not visitors to the site this is actual page views so one person may look at a dog they may look at the cat for adoption then they may read our resources so that's three page views right there so just keep that in mind if they if they take a look and they want to see all of our dogs then that's a whole lot of page news that they want to take a look at our facebook page views 2998 um from september 4th to october 1st that's a really weird date but that's the way facebook reports is that spread pet of the week is you see here is oh boy hot wheels uh this having two pets of the week was actually a recommendation from our conversations at the center that we've been having and um i believe it was gene that that stated you know we should have a dog and a cat so we did there have been some issues with that um i know like the standard examiner no the i can't remember the bulletin i think it is could only has room to do one so we told them just to alternate you know a dog one week and a cat next week but that's really been the only issue from that so we're glad that we're able to get two a dog and a cat going it was a great idea [Music] so that's it for my presentation um one thing i do want to talk about that that was mentioned in jane's presentation is conversations at the center it was an idea kind of a brainchild of david dalahan he got a hold of me and said hey you know you should probably give since public uh [Music] public comments are kind of lacking and hard to do let's do something they have the public has more of a chance to talk to you at so we thought about it and we talked to our management team we were all in agreement that let's let's do this so the first friday every month we have it goes out a week before we put it on facebook this is and we give the link to um a link to the zoom call and i have them send a question they i have them send us questions you know email the director with your questions and then during the conversation at the center i read the question and then we discuss it i have i got me the medical director i have paul our kennel supervisor we have our front office person bernice is there so our volunteer coordinator and a rescue coordinator is all on there and so if any question comes on any of us can respond to that and talk about it we've done two so far um and then and we also record them and we post them on our website so anybody likes to view them later can't do that i i do have to tell you we are really liking the zoom features because it allows us to get the word out and to talk to people we just have to instead of figuring out a date and having people have space to meet in these zoom calls are great because we can we can set a date with far enough out we already have a place to meet because everybody can stay where they're at safe places and then have a conversation about it so yes the first friday of every month and we're going to be doing it uh 1pm is the time we decided on it but like i said facebook has all the information out so that's all i have thank you mr thacker does anybody have any questions thank you thank you thank you oh i'm sorry i i don't have my participant i can't i don't okay i'm so sorry yes i approach him okay thank you i appreciate um mr decker's presentation of um and changing it to fit a lot of our needs i think being able to see the facebook number of people that go to the website and the facebook i think those are important i especially like the proactive approach david thank you for trying to capture public comment i think that's exciting thank you clint um for that um my my only concern with that is is that i i've appreciated that i i but i i think it's important that the board have a synopsis of those questions and answers and if there's issues or concerns how we're addressing those um and maybe that needs to be a little more in detail i think that's the whole idea of public comment you know move in terms of the ability for a council or a board committee to hear what people are saying so i i think it eliminates sort of the board and i have to say i don't know that i'll have time to go back to re listen to the recording or watch a recording in addition to i mean literally all day back to back i'm in zoom meetings um and then i'd be working in the evening too and a lot of evenings i am working at that time so um i i find i love this i love it but if it's gonna happen i we need to find a way that the board gets uh um information so that it because we're policy makers right if there's something that needs to be done we should be we should hear that um from the perspective um from your perspective or the community the public's perspective so can we yeah excellent point what i can do is i can send um how do i want to make a new committee or just that executive committee uh that would be up to the board to decide but i can send the synopsis of the questions and i can include the link to where it's at so you can choose so you can choose if you want to um listen you sure can uh but yes not some of the questions that are asked and also the discussion head is not an issue or problem i'd do that that would be great or incorporating it um clint in your pr your um presentation right your um your shelter updates i think might be another avenue i mean i certainly don't want to create a rolling quorum but i also am really interested to hear um how that's you know what the public is saying related to um the center and the goings-on of you know our animal entities and such so thank you thank you for that i appreciate it the actual turnout has been very very low to the first two that we had i think we had three people people on the first one we just chalked that up to being brand new the second one uh we had i think two people so i i hope the information is getting out to more places after the recording and people are talking about it but um and it's always usually the same individuals that are attending in one of the apartments so that's good that we have some people that do it any other comments or questions for mr thacker mr thacker i um thank you so much it was a great presentation i too share the concern that mayor pro tem has expressed that the public comments i know that for city council meetings what the mayor does is he reads the public comments that he uh receives and i think sometimes we forward uh things to him um but that's how it's done sometimes you know there's like an outpour like there's a certain issue circulating and sometimes there aren't but they're sent directly uh to the council members or the mayor i don't know mr dalahan um if uh and i think procedurally a mayor pro tem i think that we would be able to receive um our individual the commission you know the board the commissioners and the city councils to uh bring any public comments and provide that for our forthcoming agendas uh where we can um uh read uh the public comments and it's the same issue and the same um slant or the same opinion on the issue um but yes i think those would be that's a very helpful thing because i too was thinking about uh public participation which is crucial and um so [Music] yeah we have to avoid the uh rolling quorum sort of thing but if we receive uh if we receive individual um comments i mean if we if we are cc'd if all of the board members were cc'd on a on a an email from one person and we don't discuss it then we're within the parameters of not violating the open meetings act we cross when we start discussing it with each other but to read it out um but to read those comments out um it is not a violation um so somehow we can coordinate that so muslim chair yes mr dolan i i would offer the what we're doing now for this board meeting is mr thacker and i think bernice are receiving public comments and when we get to that portion of the agenda if there are any so if there are comments that are coming to any of the board members to avoid the rolling quorum issue you should forward them to mr thacker so he should add them to the issue i would encourage the public not to make outreach to the entire board because you never know who's going to respond to them you should all forward them all to mr thacker and the public should be sending them that way that that way you guarantee no one's answering them and they're all getting read publicly uh during the board meeting by going to by sending them them to mr thacker and then he's um on the hook for reading and during the public comment portion of the meeting okay so that's the best way to be consistent is that the best way okay all right well then i was just trying to draw an analogy to city council meetings but uh this is a totally different function so okay that sounds like a [Music] may i ask um clint a question of course clint um where are you um seen the these friday conversations what i'm sorry where are we what where are you announcing and having these zoom meetings and whatnot where are you announcing those it's on facebook we announce it on our main facebook page and then also in our rescue facebook page so so i belong to that group right it's like getting buried and all my stuff and i'm looking through it now and i don't see anything so i i'm wondering and i'm seeing such cute animals so anyway i i i'm i'm wondering if that has anything to do with the low turnout right that it's just getting bogged down in people's stuff and i'm wondering if you can do some boosting um you know where where you're targeting folks certain i i don't know but i i i just know that it it's not often that i get it um anymore that i get it that it comes easily i have to go look for it right so i'm um i'm um i'm not seeing it here in my feed anyway and all the posts that i'm looking oh here it is october 1st the zoo meeting but it's buried so it's so cute yes i i don't know maybe trying to figure out a different way of advertising as well clint from the facebook boosting or something that then it that that that people because if it's anything like me it's buried in all the stuff so just some suggestions thank you uh cassandra if it's okay to comment that the coalition would be happy to help promote the um uh conversations with the center um an announcement so uh clint if you want to send that to me we'll we have a distribution list so we'd be willing to send it out um that way all right thank you you're not muted mr dolhan i would also offer to clint that uh he he could put it on the website and he could also do a press release and if he writes up the first release then it would get shared through our communications office to the media outlets and and they're pretty good about picking up city press releases great thank you everybody for the ideas appreciate it thank you mr clinton thank you mr john thank you uh mayor protege um so the uh next item i is in fact let's see where are we committee reports um madam chair the first committee report is for the finance committee and i'm going to turn it over to mr josh saffel we did have a finance committee meeting this month it was very short the only thing that we have to present is the monthly financials that is josh is going to present and i do want to ask him to speak at the end of the meeting on the status of the audit if we're on track and things like that just quickly nothing specific but just the status of the shell of the audit specific to animal service center so thanks josh if you could do that excuse me mr suffolk so mr don are you talking about board comments item six on the agenda for him too or what no the audit is covered by the finance committee so i uh i just wanted him to just give the entire board a status of the audit if if we're on schedule and uh just like that which i think we are and it will be completed by the end of november so uh i'll just going to ask josh to give a quick update on that that's it great thank you thank you go ahead proceed mr sample uh good morning madam chair members of the board my name is josh saffel and on behalf of the finance department of the city of las cruces i would like to present the unaudited financials for the month ended september 30th 2020. so here we see our statement of net position in the general fund we're showing cash of nine hundred 854 thirty five dollars and receivables of ninety one thousand three hundred and forty one dollars we had liabilities of sixty eight thousand eight hundred and fifty six and revenue collecting in advance of fifty five thousand five hundred and one this left us in the general fund and unassigned fund balance of 821 9119 we also see in the capital projects fund cash balance and a restricted fund balance of 29 798 and then we see in the capital assets a total amount of assets less net accumulated depreciation of 213 431 dollars uh moving on to our change in net position now we see total revenues in the general fund of one thousand one hundred forty excuse me one million one hundred forty six thousand eight hundred and ninety four dollars and total expenditures of four hundred and ninety six thousand seven hundred and twenty three dollars so for the general fund we had a uh net increase to our fund balance of six hundred and fifty thousand dollars uh we also see some expenditures taking place in the capital projects fund that's 1 767 that was towards the uh i believe the cat room project and we had a capital assets we recognized depreciation of 10 558 dollars looking at our budget to actual uh change in net position we see that the actual uh revenue of one million one hundred and forty six thousand was thirty three point seven percent of budgeted revenue and the 496 000 in expenditure was 14.8 percent of the uh budgeted expenditures our parameter uh was 25 this being the end of the first quarter so with revenue we're doing pretty good doing well above that target and expenditures we're below that target so again that's that's good here we see a comparison of the revenues and expenditures throughout the month the trend uh we'll notice that uh that last month they seem to the revenue dropped to almost the same amount as the expenditure and then there is a definite increase in revenue that was due to the recognition of the city uh providing more funds that was accepted through a resolution and so that kicked in and we see that increase in the revenue taking place in the month of september uh finally looking at our total expenditures we see that our total expenditures again were 496 000 of that 78 of which was personnel expenses and then services were 13 supplies four percent and insurance four percent with repairs and maintenance and other expenses making up about one percent of the remaining uh expenditures and with that that will conclude my presentation and i stand for any questions oh thank you thank you mr salvo are there any questions just real quickly can you oh yes can you discuss the audit status real quick yes i was that was my question what is the audit status at this point so sample um we should be on track the the audit is taking place um we're expecting to have everything completed um in line with the timetable that was set forth before uh during the um opening a discussion by the auditors so we are on track with the with the audit everything should be completed uh by the end of november i believe we are um there should be a scheduled exit conference sometime towards the end of november we should be done around that time however of course there will be all audits have to be submitted through the office of state auditor that'll happen in december and then it takes them some time to review the information we'll finally get a notification of um the ability to print out the audit once we get that we'll be able to of course then share the audit with the the council uh probably sometime in february or march okay it might be sooner than that but right we never might be yes but i'm gonna say tentatively march just to play it safe great great thank you so softly thank you mr dolahan are there any questions furthering questions thank you um the next is the executive committee and we had no meeting this month so we'll proceed to facilities uh mayor pro tem committee chair cassandra gandara yes we did meet um and clint was able to update us on again some of the issues that are current related to the facilities i'm specific to um windows and those sort of things they're still working towards that i believe um clint do you have any updates related to um that particular piece i know we were in the midst of trying to locate somebody right to um to correct the issues that we were experiencing with some of the building windows and opening yeah so we do have an update we received uh the go ahead from our facilities uh to work with highland construction to get the frame and the obs window frame fixed and also the ceiling um get that re-taped and mutted and painted and then the window to be replaced as well because remember i had that seal that was broken so it's foggy and then um what was the other one was there one other one um i thought it was the um there's some leeks from the water is that a portion of where it shouldn't be like in the um is that the same thing that that you're talking about or i thought it was in a place that probably shouldn't be because of the number well that doesn't sound familiar but i do remember you said water the water basin collection basin where storm water comes into i don't know if it is ever staff here has never seen it ever been cleared out and so it's more of a retention pond that retains for weeks we're able to facilities gave us some ideas of individuals that could come and fix that problem so now we just need to contact them and start getting quotes on um how or getting quotes on that it's not a budgeted item so we're gonna have to look at it and see what you know we can do and maybe budget for next year okay and then um the update on the new um facility new facility is moving forward really well actually we had the sat committee yesterday was able to meet review the rfp um and so that was some of those small changes that were put on there it's gonna go back to david correct me if i'm wrong but it goes back to purchasing and they look at the recommendations we made and then it goes out so madam chair councillor gandra the sac committee did meet uh clinton one of his staff members are part of the sac review committee it was finalized yesterday and voted on by the sac for issuance it doesn't need to come back to the committee purchasing will finalize any minor corrections that there were yesterday and it should be issued um because it's late in the week it probably will be issued early next week and then it will be out on the streets for um at least four weeks and then we will get responses back so we should have a decision made within two months because then the committee has to come back together and evaluate the proposals that are submitted and then ultimately the city council as the owner of the facility has to approve the award of the contract but once we have that contract negotiated that will be made publicly through um the through a council meeting right thank you um david um quick question where would one find that rfp um if they were interested in applying right or writing uh so um madam chair council gander it will be posted on the city's website through our purchasing department and there will be a link to a nationwide service called bidnet and then there is a free registration that you can get through bidnet and then you can download the rfp it's not the most exciting read um there are rfps and and it's a big file because it has uh design drawings in it but yeah it is through um and they the purchasing office does have a standing list of contractors that they send um the rfps to as well so david help um let me understand on our website would one go so the the lost cruises.org you're in the main in the main website right where do one go right to find rfps so under the main web site there is a tab called government once you go to government you should go to departments then you should go to finance and within the finance i think it's called financial services within financial services there should be a purchasing page i think purchasing is also listed under the key sections page but it's government departments financial services purchasing four clicks david and all the rfps can be found throughout the city on that particular site there's a link from financial services purchasings page to bidnet because bidnet is nationwide and you can also go to bidnet.com and it will be there once it's posted got it thank you and on bidnet i believe you search by state um it does it by uh by state so you you have to drill down as to what you're interested in okay cool i appreciate that i know a number of folks have been you know just not just this particular rfp but others and i didn't i i tried to look but couldn't find it so it's buried and it shouldn't be um so anyhow it feels right i know you don't do it it's just hard to locate it's not let me double check that well i'm gonna get off this i won't get out of the meeting but i'll turn off my video on my mute and i'll double check it to make sure that i have it right and now i'll address it further in board comments thank you appreciate it thank you madam chair i think that concludes all of our um facility and and just to let people know um that are interested in um finding out right where the status of our geo bonds um specific to animal services center you can find that on our website at the geo bonds portion and then it'll tell you exactly where each of the questions where it is in that process so um again it's a it's a it's a good um it i think it's the site is good and being able for anybody to go in and check to see they're interested in where the facilities is at you can find it there thanks madam chair and thank you very much for that information um mayor pro tem and thank you so much david dolan for your input on this and yes it's true and uh going to clc or city las cruces dot civic web web.net if you go there there is a place where of the upper right hand courses it just says uh how do i whatever and you fill in the blank and then you have to and then it's really good because then you just go all over the place and then you realize there's all these areas and then you can spend an hour or two just realizing that you have all this information literally at your fingertips so thank you so much for that information um pro tem to have our city residents and county residents as well connected to our city thank you next is public input but we discussed that earlier and i don't think we have any public input or do we mr dawn mr donahan's probably looking for something mr thacker i have not received any feedback for public input and neither has denise um she would have given that to you right that's great yeah okay all right thank you so we'll move on to chair and board comments um so does any of does any board member have any comments at this point it looks like nobody has any comments we've run out of words next is adjournment but before we adjourn i just want to say that the next meeting will be november 19 2020 at 3 p.m so that's a little bit different than our usual 9 a.m and it'll be on november 19 which is um yeah anyway i think the time has changed but the day the day is the same if i it's november 19th at 3 o'clock p.m manager and before i thought it was a thursday i have oh wait a minute you're right i'm looking at the wrong let me let me verify that it should be a thursday correct correct i'm sorry i was looking at the wrong yeah so this is thursday november 19th and the thing that has changed the only thing that has changed is the time madam chair could you could you say again what time of day it is it's thursday the 19th and what is the time 3 p.m 3 p.m thank you yeah we're varying from our 9 a.m and is this just a one-time thing or uh are you going to alternate i believe it's mr dolahan mr thacker i believe and board members i believe this is a one-time thing due to the holiday season it's for november and december november and december we'll be meeting at 3 p.m but after that we'll go back to our 9 a.m is that correct yes ma'am and before you before we call the role on the adjournment i need you to read the closed meeting statement that is at the bottom of the meeting agenda item eight yes item eight so after our adjournment uh the board of directors of the animal service center of the messiah valley will convene in closed session to discuss the annual performance reviews of the director of the animal service center of the messiah valley which is closed pursuant to section 10 hyphen 15 hyphen 1 hyphen h and 2 close paren comma nmsa close comma period and madam chair we will read a closed meeting notice at the beginning of the next meeting as well to report on our closed meeting session but if you're ready i'll call we can have a motion in a second and i'll call the role to adjourn the meeting for the board members please stay on the meeting every and clint stay on this meeting we will stop the recording for the closed session um but we will stay on the same zoom meeting and everyone else will need to leave okay this this is commissioner sanchez yes i'd like to make a motion that we adjourn and move into a closed session second gandara it has been moved and second to adjourn for the um board of directors monthly meeting and we are now therefore adjourned okay hold on just we are adjourned yeah everybody oh you need a roll call um so uh commissioner ellens is that a yes commissioner ellens give us a thumbs up gives us a thumbs up commissioner beta stevie yes councillor gandra yes commissioner sanchez yes chair florence yes all right we're adjourned um uh geno bernice adrian clctv um you can leave the meeting adrian uh you've stopped the recording yes uh give me a sec to take us off air real quick and i'll let you know when we're done okay we can take a little break i suppose yes you can thank you thank you mr dalahan thank you outside