[Music] we're not on yet we added a couple seconds mayor all right mary you're live okay good afternoon everybody welcome to the work session and tidboard meeting of the las cruces city council today is monday january 25th it's approximately 1 pm before we get started if you please join me in the pledge of i allegiance allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all okay so as i mentioned this is for those of you who are joining us and hoping to see our work session of las vegas city council that will come immediately following this tit board which is the city council also acts as our board of directors which stands for the tax increment development district and so we have a few items and it could take as little as 30 minutes to finish and then we'll go on to our work session okay so the first item is going to be an action item it's going to be item 2.1 which is approval of the minutes from our october 26 2020 to board meeting and i'll need a motion and a second so moved by flores okay second avenue a motion made by board member florida second by board member beta stevie christine this is on the motion to approve the tid board meeting minutes from october 26 2020. counselor beta tv yes i'm sorry board member board member vasquez is he absent he's actually here oh uh yes board member ben cuomo yes board member sorck i don't think he's here he's not here okay absent board member flores yes board member gandara yes chair yes okay so we have two discussion items first one being a financial update and mr chris farr barb will be presenting and craig mayfield misspelled that chris it's favor mr chair and actually i believe that josh um sowell is going to give the financial date and then i'll give a current projects update after that perfect just checking to see if you pay attention there chris all right so josh i saw you on the on the participant list but wasn't too sure yes good afternoon uh mr chair members of the board my name is josh saffel and on behalf of the finance department of the city of las cruces i'd like to present the financial report for tid for the quarter ended december 31st let me get my presentation going here so to start off with we're looking at the tid operations fund the fund has cash and investments of three million six hundred ninety six thousand seven hundred fifty eight dollars receivables of seven thousand nine hundred and six dollars and a due from state or county of thirty two thousand six hundred and seventy one so total assets in the fund amount to three million seven hundred thirty seven thousand three hundred and thirty five dollars there is a restricted fund balance in the same amount and that is the total liabilities and fund balance looking at the budget and actual for the tid operations total revenues in the fund amount to one hundred eighty one thousand one hundred and five dollars and total expenditures are twenty six thousand eight hundred and sixty seven after a transfer out of 375 000 the net change to fund balance for the fund was a negative two hundred twenty thousand seven hundred and sixty two dollars moving to the tip products uh cash and investments in the fund total nine hundred and seventy thousand six hundred and nine dollars and there is an equal amount in restricted fund balance of nine hundred and seventy thousand six hundred and nine looking at the budget and actual for the tin projects fund total revenues are one thousand ninety eight dollars and total expenditures are three thousand seven hundred and ninety seven dollars so the net change in fund balance for this fund was a negative two thousand six hundred and ninety nine dollars next we have the tid street bond projects uh looking at the balance sheet we show cash and investments in the fund of five hundred thousand 263 and again an an equal amount in restricted fund balance finally looking at the budget and actual for this fund total revenue was 623 dollars there were no expenditures in this fund so the net change in fund balance was the 623 and that will conclude my financial report presentation are there any questions thanks josh let's see here if i can find any questions doesn't look like so far okay thanks josh looks like we're gonna go to the ted projects over here oh yes oh that's right we don't have um yeah the my little hand oh yeah i'm gonna get some blue paint and then put it up like this yeah i have to confess i actually did work it so that the hand that didn't work so oh well gee thanks yeah that's very nice that's very reassuring thank you mr sapphir i have a question um i didn't understand anything you presented and um and the reason i didn't understand is because uh the tip is uh covers the entire downtown area right i mean that's the tid that we have and um and what you presented and it may be you know um in i mean it may be uh yeah maybe it's it's um acceptable uh you know accountability or accounting principles but i didn't understand like where the money comes from where it goes is there a breakdown with the different projects like the amador the rio grande you know things like that so um do you have that kind of a breakdown and do you have an analysis as to uh there's been a co an impact by covid and um and i was looking at last our last meeting october and there had been the reporting uh was broken down or somehow the notes reflected that um so can you explain whether um we can have that information or if this is all we're going to get we don't have i don't know maybe i'm overreaching here asking for something that isn't appropriate but i i would like to see where the money's um you know where these deficiencies are it looks like there's some deficiencies right not in accounting but in the flow of money so board member flores what you're asking for is like for example if we did a project in the downtown uh let's say we use tid money to build the plaza you wanted to see is there any money left over uh or if we have another project that we're trying to do you want to see basically that more detail is that what you're asking correct thank you mr mayor thank you yeah i i i would like to see the individual projects is it broken down that way to see which projects have been profitable to see whether the kid is working downtown and i understand that there could be a covet influence but i i would just like to see that and is it possible to see that do you work it that way or are we just left out i mean we just stepped to our own devices to figure out where the money is where the money is or isn't mr chair thank you mr mayor thank you and answer part of that question real quick and then let josh follow up um so mr chair uh board member floyd i have a small presentation that will be updating you on a couple of the current actually all the current um tid projects that'll follow josh's financial presentation but i can and so that that has some of the budgetary information um but josh can speak to some of the additional questions uh yes uh mr chair and uh council councilwoman flores um yes um i believe that we do have that information available i don't have it with me right now but generally what what we present here is just a basic summary of the basic financials if you do want further detail please let us know and i'm sure that we can um adjust the report to where it becomes more something more useful if you feel that that this was not as useful as it could have been and i'm certain that we have that information it's just uh this is just the the summary format that was was presented yeah well for me and i and i hope um my colleagues share this sentiment i think that with the fiasco we faced last summer or last whatever last year uh with a potential tib non-uh you know uh private of course not public such as the one that you're reporting on it would just be really good to have that breakdown as part of the presentation to the entire council and that would be my ask my request because we really have to understand how this is working and um and my understanding prior to the i mean i think october the october report did show that things had gone down um but um and somehow it was covered in our in our minutes but um so yes mr sapple and and uh that would be my request for the finance department for us to fully understand um how this money comes in and how it flows and how the tid really works because you know bottom line is bottom line in this business thank you thank you mr mayor mr chair yes uh dr martinez thank you mr chair um member of the board flores thank you for those questions um as mr seifol mentioned um we can further adjust this reporting so what i'm noting is for us to have the the updates on the financial component by project and by month so you can see the trends uh as well as the summary um one of the things that i want to i do want to share with you all as a reminder is the source of funding for the tiered in downtown is a grt is a portion of the grt that is generated by the businesses in the designated area so we can we can also bring a map so that helps to um to set the conversation for the geographical area that we're talking about and and we appreciate the input to continue to improve the reporting thank you dr martinez mr mayor if i may dr martinez thank you for that because um it would be good to see i think if we had that breakdown or that as you say the trends and summaries for the different businesses we would be able to compare that with past performances and then we can see whether covet has had an impact uh and what that impact would be and whether we'd be it'd be recoverable um and because i don't i don't think it's a um i don't think it's a gold mine you know with infinite you know infinite resources on the other hand i think that it can be sustainable and beneficial financially to the cities and it'd be good to see all of that so thank you dr martinez thank you thank you mr mayor and if i may add one thing dr martinez i believe there's a sunset clause or time period that that ends with the state i wonder if that might also want to be included just to give a reminder to council of when this expires mr church uh thank you for for that additional piece actually the sunset took place um a year ago uh leanne may have the exact date and and um when you see the summaries by month uh you're gonna see a big drop in in the income or revenues should say from when we had the state share to when now only have cd share um it's about 18 000 a month and that that has been pretty consistent uh surprisingly the the drops uh the drops in revenue by month throughout the public health restrictions have varied greatly by month by month but we will certainly bring those to you we can bring also a a brief history of the months during the public health restrictions for you to see and then the bigger picture on that thanks dr martinez does the county's portion sunset or does that stay on like ours um mr chair i believe it continues until the ending life of the of the tid okay you know also is the states okay i also failed to mention that with us is commissioner shannon reynolds who's our ex-official member from the county and i just wanted to welcome him as well and so commissioner reynolds if you ever have a question if you could i right now apparently zoom the function to raise your hand is not available so and i only get to see about three or four on my screen at one time so if you have a question just raise your hand through the reaction you know how they have the little hand or whatever yeah raise your thumbs up or whatever you have questions thank you mr mayor i appreciate the introduction and uh if i have a question you're in san francisco so yeah i'm on top of the the hotel i'm on the top floor next to the pool you know now it's paid from from the bay yeah but i don't have any i think um i think uh dr um martinez is correct i think we're in it for the uh the term of the ted i don't think we our sun sets at all until the kids uh sun sets as far as i know sounds good all right thank you okay vice chair uh gandera has a question um thank you mayor um yeah i um i appreciate um board member flores's comments i think what would be helpful is to see sort of a breakdown from year to year right um and that would be for me really helpful um and what covet impact we do get on a monthly or i don't know how frequently but um miss barbara de leon is sent is forwarding um our grt and the tid grt is part of that so that probably information would be helpful it and then i would recommend that to to staff that we meet quarterly this is a committee that we don't meet our board that we don't meet often enough and it takes um us you know some it'd be helpful to have some refreshing you know just refresh your course every time just a few a slide or two that sort of gives some history and some you know would be helpful josh if you would chris um and then i have a question josh in the slides that you listed assets and um liabilities does the amador get listed as an asset on there and as they because right it's our we own the building um and how how is that working when they put forth leases paid towards the leases i imagine that that gets calculated somewhere in this in these slides if you will i would have to check into that because i believe that looking at what was presented it was primarily cash was the record asset so um the amador is most likely a capital asset which was not reported in those um funds yeah i'd like to see that and see a running tab of where we're at with the lease um and how does that get calculated in terms of its worth right and net worth or worth if you will um something that we probably should should know um and any any buildings in that area right that that is that is it would be helpful um to me because i would assume that that some means something to us and as part of the the tid so um thank you josh i appreciate it and i'm looking forward to chris's presentation okay i don't see any other questions so chris hi mr chair let me um share my screen i've got a brief presentation to show everyone here all right um are you able to see that in yes there's a bit of a bit of a here so i'm going to get it to go into pre here we go here we go sorry there's a bit of a lag here on my end so okay so mr chair members of the board this is chris faber interim downtown administrator in the economic development department i'm going to give you an update on just a couple of the projects that are going on in the tid and using tid funds and then myself and public works staff will be available at the end for questions so the first project up is parking lot 7 which for everyone's point of reference it's the parking lot right behind the rio grande theater this will be a project that includes some landscape redesign and rebuilding of the bathrooms it is a tid-funded project the budgeted amount was 488 000. the bid process um was due on december 8th and currently purchasing is working to select a vendor for that estimated timelines are a breaking ground in mid-february um with an estimated completion date of june 20 june 2021 so just take a few months once the project gets going next is the compost redesigned study again this is another tid funded project for redevelopment of the campo street area the budgeted amount for this fiscal year is four hundred thousand dollars and then i've got some updates and next steps here so currently moles and corbit and associates is the vendor who's working on um the study part of what they're looking at is an evaluation of cultural impact architecture and landscaping lighting requirements traffic control and ada compliance in just a couple weeks ago on the 12th we had a stakeholders meeting and that consisted of residents and business owners from the area city staff members of acd and dlcp and some of the comments that came from that meeting were a sense of making campo street feel more like it's a part of downtown both from an aesthetic standpoint and from a pedestrian accessibility standpoint there was a lot of discussion about trying to find ways to soften that west side of the road which has a lot of fencing and and walls and barricades and stuff like that related to the post office in the courthouses so that was the comments from the stakeholders meeting and um part of the next steps will be for a public meeting to be held in march or april after that moles and corbin will compile a report with all the recommendation and comments and that'll be due to the board in may once a final design is approved for that project it'll be about a six to eight month time frame for the design to be completed an estimated construction cost from that point moving forward would be about two million dollars and finally last project we're working on um is an online permitting system uh we did update you on this back in october um we um had to put that aside for a little bit while we worked on some of the covid grant stuff i'm not sure why there's an extra zero there we go 20 000 yeah there we go it just looked kind of funny to me um and so what this will do it'll give us an online permitting application process for the plaza so when people want to rent the plaza there'll be a an easier online way to go about filling out those requests we actually have a training that starts up tomorrow we're hoping to get the user testing phase completed in february with a potential go live sometime in march but i just wanted to remind the board that we aren't taking permits for the downtown and the plaza at this time because of the cobid restrictions but the idea is that when we are able to do so we will have this new permitting system which will make it a lot easier for city staff and for those who are requesting the plaza to get through and that's all i had those are all the projects currently owned using kid funds again i'm available for questions and staff from public works is also available for questions so thank you thanks thanks chris see if we have any oh that's right ken um you sure yes ma'am or um vice chair canada thank you um chair mega thanks chris um for the update um i wondered if you could also update the tit board um in real relation to the um the time the parking study um the time parking or where or how that is connected um to the tit i think that's an important um area to update and then the arts and cultural district i think that's also a piece of of the puzzle and i'd i'd love to see some some remarks and and actually an update at here in the tid presentation thank you mr chair uh board member gondara i'll i'll speak to the acd real quick and then i'll turn it over to dr martinez to speak on the parking enforcement she's been the the point person from ed on that project and she has more details on that so regarding acd they are currently have a project that they're using cip funds for which is the mesquite district lighting and wayfinding study um we're working with bohan and houston on that and it's sort of a two a two pronged approach for the area one is um way finding signage and gateway signage for the boundaries of the district as well as different way finding signs and kiosks within the mesquite area directing people either to other places in the district or to other areas you know in the downtown area say a sign from you know klein park pointing the direction of the rio grande theater that type of thing um currently we are and before i continue the other side of that is a lighting evaluation study that's also going on to determine if there's additional lighting needs and concerns for the mesquite area with regard to the signage we have seen some preliminary designs that the acv has been reviewing for both kiosks and the gateway signage we are hoping to have a follow-up meeting with um bohan and houston and the acv board to move a little bit more forward on those we had to forward them some traffic requirements with regards to signage near roads to make sure that all of our proposed gateway signs and kiosks don't impair any sort of drivers from a sort of a you know right-of-way standpoint so there's lots of lots of different things going on with that particular group and we're hoping to get more information from from bohan and houston here moving forward i i spoke with them recently and they're they're just compiling some of the information the board provided them in our last meeting um and again we can have more information made available to you by our next board meeting the tid meeting because we should have a lot more a lot more developed by our next meeting so i'll let dr griselda speak to the parking unless you had any additional comments uh board member ganda regarding the acd i don't chris thank you so much for that update okay we have a question question from uh board member ben cuomo thank you mr claire oh to update us on the um parking committee time parking that sort of thing mr chair member of the board gandhara we have gone through the sac process we have selected a vendor and we're in final negotiations of the that contract will come back to city council for your voting at that time we will all also bring the parking enforcement as a discussion item help us um with direction of of timelines for um from when we set the the option for timing uh versus uh charging so that's that is in the works uh but you will see it as a city council item in the near future are you muted vice chair encounter thank you um i appreciate that what about um dr martinez the parking um lot survey or and and those kinds of things i guess i'm just trying to find a way that you can update the entire tid board related to the activities um in the tid area i don't see another another opportunity where we have these kinds unless there's a workstation specific to that mr chair uh member gandera um for the so i believe that um if if it's more appropriate we in the next tip board meeting we could have all other downtown projects updates what we prepared for this meeting was tit funded projects and that is the reason why we don't have the other ones that that you're asking that we usually discuss in the parking committee meetings um so if that's that's the the preference from from the board we could do that for our next meeting for for the parking lot uh just briefly updates that we that have been in discussion items with the parking committee is the visibility study was completed and um at this time the next step would be for funding to be determined um for next stages of the project and so um i don't know if you want us to go in further detail uh member gander yeah thank you dr martinez um it would be helpful i think i just again i as i said before i don't see a an easy in the past i i think mandy um has updated us not only on tid funded projects but projects that were happening in within the tid that i think would be helpful to the board to hear and understand and just get an update i know you're not prepared to do that today i'm okay with you bringing it back um you know in the next time to update us with you know part of a presentation or that we decide um that it's something that needs a a work session thank you mr mr chair um board member gandala thank you for that input um and and we'll we'll figure out the best way to bring those updates to the to the entire body uh as per your request okay anybody else oh yes uh remember vince sorry about that yes okay thank you chair um chris or dr martinez can you remind me are we not paying for the shade structures through the tid mr chair board remember that that was as of right now that is not the case um that was something we had presented as a possible pure priority at the october meeting um and so we were planning to discuss uh at an upcoming tip meeting um future priorities from the tit and that that was on that list presented in october but as of right now there is no tid funds that have been dedicated to that project okay um yeah i definitely don't remember october at this point but um do we i mean is that going to be up for discussion then at the next tid meeting or at this point the chairs are being it it's through the city of las cruces mr chair remember it's something that we can certainly look at um and you can look at with with um using kid funds for that but as of right now no determination has been made but we can certainly put a list of potential priorities together included in our presentation for the next meeting so the board can start to figure out how to prioritize any upcoming and upcoming projects okay thank you thanks board member ben como i'm glad you reminded us of that so i i do recall of the meeting in fact it was like a little bit over a million dollars and it seemed like we could use a tit money or we could try to find some other monies so chris is it fair to say that this project has stopped and there's no movement on it mr chair yeah currently at this time after the presentation back in the fall where the architects presented some of the different options i know there was some discussion about an element to it some a solar component to it but there hasn't been any other requests made to the architect to incorporate those i think at this point it was a matter of determining a funding source before moving forward but dr martinez might have some more information on that if i'm wrong [Music] that's that's the current status um that discussion took place before city council and one of the options that was considered was through acd we we staff have discussed that with acd and unfortunately that's not one of through the discussion of other priorities that's not one that that made it to this uh according to the funding available through acv and um at this point we will have to decide uh as as mr favor mentioned um next next update we're planning to bring those priorities for um for tip board to act upon and for you to define based on the funding available what are those uh items that you you want to fund via the tid as i mentioned before the the biggest contribution or revenue into the tid took place when when we had the state share uh coming through and therefore um the funding that we have is an accumulation of of previous periods rather than fast growing currently and so with that in place we would bring the the funding available uh currently the projects that that are in the works that would um require funding from tid and then the the priorities that that we have discussed up to this point for you to select which ones would make it um via tip versus other funding sources so ifo you know this probably took place right around the time you were thinking of coming here so can you uh obviously with covet and things have slowed down and we don't have social gatherings but had this had that not been the case we really wanted to have some type of a shade structure by this coming summer so can you make this a priority to kind of make sure that that council has some information even if it's and i don't know i would think christine it's allowed to have this disclosed at a city council meeting uh just some type of an update because that's something there that you know i think council really wanted to have this this shade has eluded us for two years you know and um and uh it's something there that that really is something not just the council wants but you know the public wants it gets pretty hot um i can't remember when you we moved down you moved down here in september i think and yeah so you haven't you haven't felt the july june and july heat so i know you're always there nice and cool in utah but welcome to las cruces in uh july and august okay uh board member flores are you waving at me or you have a question yes i'm waving at you i've got nothing better to do than to wave at you um thank you miss mayor and thank you for asking mr pealey to look into this because we did have what i wanted to share and i think a lot of us already know this but just to refresh everybody's memory is that we did have a presentation last fall um i believe counselor ben como was there and i think councillor um uh gandara maybe it was another one but anyways a presentation or it wasn't last fall it was oh my gosh when was it i really lost track of time but we did have a presentation by a firm architects um or it was a ted board meeting was it a ted board meeting where they did the no no it was open to the public it was at night it was on the second floor we we saw one at the council too i mean you know one it hasn't been the tip board i would think yeah well anyway but there are a lot of people from the public there are a lot of people from the public there and um and so i think that we owe it to ourselves and definitely to the to our public to the residents at least an update as to what's going on are we moving forward or not and yes everybody wants a structure and then we had it was where we all voted for the structure that we liked the most for um whatever reason you know either the design or the practicality and i remember yes it was uh mayor pratim gandara who or maybe i'm confusing with another one uh who requested solar panels there was questions about solar panels so um i think we really need to move on that i mean there's a million and one other things you have to move on but um that that one seems to have been left dangling you know in the you know in the wings so i'd like to see uh some movement on this thank you mr mayor mr mayor is that the board member vasquez it is thank you and i don't have my camera on just because i'm driving so i i don't want to uh apologize for that i don't want to put myself in danger there but i do just have some questions and comments if now's okay sure absolutely thank you mayor um yes so i uh thank you so much chris for that presentation i just have a couple of quick comments and questions uh one is i'm excited that that parking lot and those bathrooms are are finally getting that much needed remodel um and i know those bathrooms get heavy use by the public during farmers market and other downtown events and so um uh was just gonna ask you about the capacity there are you are you increasing the size of those of those restrooms chris as part of that um of tearing the old ones down um i know there's i always see lines uh there when there's big events so i'm just wondering about the design on those uh councilman vasquez i'm gonna let public works answer the questions specific to the redesign of those bathrooms that they've got more of the technical information on it than i do okay thank you chris dave or tony thank you chair thank you board member vasquez for the question i couldn't get the the unmute button uh to show up to answer but uh to answer your question board member vasquez and for the record david sedillo public works director uh we should be increasing those i will have to confirm the design but the last time that we looked at it there was to be more capacity to address the usage in that area what i will do is follow up with staff to get the exact number of those bathrooms for each the women's and the men's okay great thank you uh yeah i just don't want to miss that opportunity to do that now i think that was one of the challenges with the current public restrooms there and the big events that happen is um you know they get they get filled up pretty quickly and i know with more businesses that are inviting more folks uh into our downtown i think it's just a smart thing to do now to make sure we have bathrooms that are adequate for the the population of people will be serving especially during those large events so thank you for for paying attention to that um chris i have another question slash request so you know i've honestly been surprised at how white those walls on the post office have been able to stay for so long um just because you know they're they're kind of a perfect canvas there for for ours one way or another and with the redesign of campo street i don't know if that includes like a one percent project from public art um that i think we're supposed to have on on most of our capital projects now um but i'm just wondering uh one does does that project have that one percent for public art and then two i would love to maybe approach the post office or you know the federal government to see about using that the outside of that wall that encloses what were once all those all those great um usps trucks that that were in use when we still had a male center hub in las cruces but anyhow that big wraparound white wall i think would be an amazing place to tell the story of las cruces or have a local artist interpret some beautiful part of our history and it could be another you know big cultural attraction an artist attraction for uh for the city and it also would add that public art component to campo street um so yeah just that question is is does that have a public art component included uh as part of that one percent for public art and then two um you know i guess the council or others are in agreement you know in terms of approaching the post office to see if we could use that exterior wall for for public art if that would be possible mr chair board member vasquez i'll i'll um double check or have public works come in on this i don't believe at this point because the money was just for a study at this point i don't know if there was money allocated um for public art at this point i think that would probably be um at the construction phase but i'll let uh tony i see turn his microphone off i'll let tony comment on that mr chair uh board member vasquez at this point the project for compost is considering uh different aspects of planning and design for gumball for pedestrian access lighting art funny for art has not been dedicated for horizontal construction this is usually set aside on vertical construction as part of these projects so at this point there is no consideration well i don't say consideration but art has not been part of the the discussion with the consultant right now it's just for uh room and access along compo well that is something we can definitely include in the final design of the project as we move forward so i appreciate the comment yeah and that was uh tony trevino speaking deputy director of public works oh sorry here okay thank you tony thank you chris yeah i mean how cool would it be to unveil that project that street with a big public art component uh attached to it i think that's what we have to kind of think about uh just not just the streetscape but what we want to do in building community and i think that would be a really great new attraction to the downtown um as having a really great public art component and it would draw pedestrians to campo street anyway which i think would be which i think would be good for um some of our businesses that are located there anyway um so thanks for thinking about that and for giving it some thought um and then lastly i just have a question about uh this wasn't on your project list but this is a question i had asked previously um actually probably about this time last year and i think we funded those downtown kiosks uh that are operated by visit las cruces uh with using tid money and one of them was broken i think the one at the visitor center was was not operational and so i i know during coven we really don't probably want people touching screens and stuff right now anyway but i'm just wondering if you could give an update on the kiosks in addition to them being operational if they have been um in use and maybe perhaps we can put those at a later discussion for a downtown work session because i'm really curious to see if those actually worked out for us because i know there was a vendor cost the maintenance cost we had to go through the vendor to update them it seemed like a lot of hoops to jump through and a lot of money attached to those things that um i i wasn't sure how how it was if it was going to work or not but um but first i guess the question is just are the kiosks uh working now and if so have they been shut down because of coven chris favor for the record uh mr chair counselor vasquez unless uh dr um martinez has an update on that i'll have to get back to you on that the last i heard they were they were looking to get that repaired but i don't know what the latest is on that um unless dr martinez has an update mr chair member vasquez to be a hundred percent accurate we'll send a follow-up on that via email um the one that it's placed in this las cruces is used quite often it has been repaired it took a while for us to finalize those repairs but it has been repaired that the data um that would be the piece that will have to follow up with you all um to to understand that the usage and and what those um the preferred options are [Music] there there is um um i'm gonna defer this piece to rochelle miller hernandez our director for visit las cruces uh for her to spend expanding to specific to the kiosks um a new app that uh will be coming live soon if that's okay mr chair sure absolutely say thank you dr martinez i i appreciate that i know when uh at the time um direct former director san felipo kind of sold council on this project he promised a lot of things and i just want to make sure that we're getting an accurate update in terms of what the cost of these machines have been if they've been if they've been running okay or if staff's been encountering problems um how much we're spending on that monthly vendor fee and i i just think it's important because i know like i said he they were sold a lot of things on that and i think council really wanted them to work out but it'd be great to just get an evaluation looking back at it i think a couple years down the road so thank you dr martinez thank you chris and thank you mr chair you board member vasquez anybody else okay sounds good so i believe that concludes the updates then huh chris yes that's all i had mr chair okay so there's nothing further entertain a motion to adjourn the tit board need a second i mean a motion and a second please so notice okay okay motion made by board member florida second by vice chair gandala that we adjourn christine this is on the motion to adjourn the ted board meeting board member aveda stevie yes board members yes yes christine can you hear uh board member vasquez yes i heard him i was waiting for board member ben como oh we didn't hear that apologies board member sorg yes board member flores yes board member gandara yes and chair yes okay so the tit board is adjourned as of 1 52 pm and just stay tuned for a minute or so while we get the work session information ready and then we'll begin that as well so just stay tuned don't leave and we'll be ready in just a second a minute