[Music] so [Music] good afternoon you're now on okay good afternoon everyone welcome back now we're going to start our work session of las cruces city council today is monday april 26 2021 it's approximately 3 16 p.m we're going to start off with our pet of the week or pets of the week and i believe vanessa chastain will be presenting maybe not let's hear okay how about um clint thacker there no no clint okay well we'll just go ahead and go to the jobs of the week and then we'll circle back to pets so see darlene or cindy mr mayor this is francisco pallares i'll be doing the jobs of the week mr lee lopez and ms cindy quillin needed to be somewhere else for their meeting and for this week's jobs of the week mr mayor and members of the city council and members of the public we have for the city of las cruces we're hiring for a museum administrator uh that's for the city of las cruces and that position closes on may 17th of 2021 we are also looking about the the the new mexico workforce connections as part of their hot jobs is looking for the emt basic uh that's with american medical response that one closes on july the 5th of 2021 uh southeast electric is also looking for an administrative assistant southeast electric incorporated in that position closes on may the 5th uh at 10 sorry uh that's may the 7th my apologies may the 7th attendance also with the environmental department with the environmental services department with memorial medical center they have three positions available and those are open until they're filled there's also a respiratory therapist oxygen therapy associate and that one closes on july the 4th um also one of the one additional thing that that is is important to point out is that new mexico workforce connections along with uh the university with new mexico state university um they're carrying a restart new mexico job fair on may the 4th so for those employers or for those job seekers that are looking to find an an online job fair you may register in the employeenm.com webpage and actually you can just google it like that right up with the employer.com webpage or along some of the news that they have and it's going to be on may 4th from 10 a.m to 2 p.m so if you're looking to post one of your jobs now that the economy has slowly been reopening and you're or you're looking to hire sorry hire someone else uh maybe under additional operations or maybe you're looking for a job you can go and seek in that restart new mexico register for that job fair for a full list of jobs internships and volunteer opportunities please visit www.employanime.com and also www.governmentjobs.com for slash career sports las cruces then the office for new mexico workforce connections is on uh located in alameda boulevard 226 the phone number is 575-524-6250 and again the webpage is www.employeenim.com thank you mr major thank you dr paryades appreciate that and so now uh i still didn't see vanessa vanessa are you there okay so we'll go ahead and go to the covet 19 update and that's by assistant city manager eric henriquez who is going to present acm enriquez are you there yes i'm here good afternoon mayor and council eric enriquez assistant city manager to give you a covid19 uh update uh dunya county is still currently in the yellow and uh we keep hearing the governor is looking at changing the criteria we were hoping that happened last week we'll anticipate some kind of changes to help us with the criteria so we can get to the green and maybe even the turquoise sooner than later on the doh department of health dashboard fully vaccinated in donating county is 64 000 that's approximately 37 individuals with single doses is 52.1 percent uh registration for the vaccine in donate county is about 58 the johnson johnson under cdc has recommended to resume the vaccine for those 18 years of age and older there's still some concern with women that are younger than 50 years old to to to be aware of the risk especially with blood clotting uh donating county and department of health will use that vaccine mostly for our homebound uh population that would only require one trip going out to their home as opposed to going uh on two trips so we'll be using it on that uh if again if the client is is willing to take the johnson and johnson there has been a lull in the vaccinations um involved last week they had 300 doses only 170 showed up so we are seeing more and more uh no shows and there are some concerns with expiration dates now of the vaccine today there was 200 that were available and it was a um use it or lose it within a two to three hour period so the department of health set up a pod site locally to try to get those uh you know first-come first-served basis uh one of the things that the department of health is doing to combat that is now it was age 40 and over now it's 16 and over anyone over the age of 16 can now schedule their own vaccines and we're hoping that'll be a way to to get more of the vaccinations done in our community also with that the las cruces public school district is going to have a pod site at las cruces high school on wednesday and they have 500 doses available for that campaign to start getting students vaccinated in the high school age group the asylum refugees update there's no concern at this time the federal government and the non-government agencies such as the annunciation in el paso have really stepped up and doing a good job with that so at this time we don't see a concern of having to set up a shelter in our area and that's all i have there thank you okay thank you assistant manager enriquez i appreciate that yes sir and just um information that i'm aware of on the johnson and johnson there was six six individuals or so out of six million so they they say that's about a one and one million chance of a blood clot so the the benefits far outweigh the risk counselor flores thank you mayor i have a question for mr envikas so eric um thank you for your presentation uh we're not anticipating any migrant groups any children for example or anything like that no not not not at this time a lot of the unattended children have been sent to dallas and the midland area and that's why i said that the federal government has really stepped up to help in those cases there was talk a few weeks ago of a location in new mexico but that got canceled just because the place is already set up in in the dallas area okay and the reason i'm asking is uh and and perhaps uh mayor gandara has information but i did see um jolin your bestie your mother martinez um she's at fyi and um and she was saying that they were getting ready they were preparing for the arrival of some children but we we didn't we were in a setting where i didn't have the opportunity but she did say my great children and um i said oh that's odd because we were told that there wasn't going to be any she's with fyi so i just wondered if you knew anything about that mayor pro tem or you eric have heard and if that has anything with us being prepared mayor if i may yes thank you mayor thank you counselor flores and eric yeah those are the same kind same type of information that i'm getting from her from cyfd colleagues that have um you know folks that are working in different agencies across the state and all that information i've sent back to evo for him you know to investigate talk with eric um and at this point because we're getting such difference right um different information um frankly and so i just know there are folks in locally they're gearing up because they say they're gonna receive when exactly not sure and but all accounts um have have pointed that we're not getting any um and then i have a connection that i sent um i've received a email from a gentleman that's working um at fort bliss and so i connected ifo and eric to to them as well so i um you know they're they're housing them and working through the you know that process and it didn't seem like we were getting anything any children unaccompanied minors or or families at that point either and that's been maybe three weeks now come to flores so i i i'm just when i get information i forward it on and i and i you know i'm um i trust that um mr enriquez and andy for you know working through those channels and getting the correct information and thus far we're not we haven't received any yes thank you mayor mayor pro tem gandra and councillor flores that that is correct anytime that we get any kind of information or knowledge i i reach out to all the contacts i have from the state the border patrol the local churches that are helping with these uh refugees as well el cavalio here that is their mission they they are involved but uh at this point as a city or as a community we uh we we don't have a concern at this point as soon as something like that happens we'll be sure to let you know thank you thank you counselor ben cuomo thanks mayor i just wanted to note that um it's because title 42 the provision of title 42 is still in place that um there is a very small number of asylum seekers being allowed in to the country um title 42 is set to expire may 20th although the biden administration has not indicated that committed to that so that might not happen but if title 42 is revoked then um we most likely will see an increase of families arriving okay thank you for that information thank you okay that any that's it eric you're you're finished with your presentation yes sir thank you mayor okay thank you all right so we have two items on the agenda first one is item 4.1 el paso electric 20 million economic development fund so as you all know um el paso electric was was sold uh i guess it was finalized a while back and and part of that is uh pastor electric had inserted in there that they were going to give uh 20 million dollars i think a million a year for 20 years for economic development and so with us today is uh is um las cruces businessman mr john hummer john i'm sorry it's taken so long you probably could have gone to el paso and back maybe even grab lunch and still be in time to for our meetings anyways or is yours just need you to state your name and your your position please yes mr mayor um members of the city council my name is uh john hummer and my role here today is i am one of three members on the fund advisors who were nominated and selected to serve in the role of fund advisor which i'll explain in a moment in addition to myself ed camden who is the ceo of calstrip industries serves as a fund advisor and also gerain hutchinson they were not able to be here today so i am going to present on behalf of all three of us and i'll be very brief because i know you you have a long agenda um the one thing i'll just say before i start is i want to compliment you i i listened to the whole tid session it brought me back to when i served on the uh the dlcp board and served as chair of that organization and several of you did mention uh accurately that it's been a long time coming the incubator that was something that was you know supposed to happen a while back and it's great to see that it's moving forward and that's really exciting because there's just a lot a lot of potential a lot of opportunity with that as each of you pointed out in your in your comments so congratulations on that can't wait to see that happen um so the you all know about the fund um it's very straightforward it's a million dollars a year for 20 years when we met as a group and with el paso electric one of the things we did we put the criteria together we had a deadline of april 1st for the applications for the first round of applications what we felt was important when we defined criteria was to really focus it on economic based uh jobs e-based economic development which there's a lot of different perspectives on this but if i can just kind of give my perspective that i think is shared by a lot of economic development professionals is that when you talk about e-based jobs the difference between that versus say retail jobs is that your goods or your services are being sold to consumers outside of our county so we're generating income from either goods that are being produced and manufactured or services that are being provided and the consumers of that are from outside the area bringing in new wealth new opportunity and then allowing those jobs to grow as a result of that economic based development and so we put that criteria out which is very similar right you all are familiar with media and how mubita works and how they look at economic base development as well so it really aligns with that philosophy and to date after the deadline we had 16 applications and i will granted i will just say that of those applications we did have individuals that submitted in projects that were more retail based not e-based there were some social service projects that were submitted which is all fine they're all good projects but they don't really fit the criteria on that uh that aspect um we're not going to announce who the recipients are until after we have our first public meeting which we're going to have on may 10th at 10 a.m it's been posted through the community foundation of southern new mexico who is the fiscal agent for the fund and we'll have a public meeting we will go through what applications we received um we will have a q a with any of the applicants themselves to the public at large that may have questions as well and then after may 10th the announcement we made for the first deployment of the million dollars and our goal is for all one million dollars to be deployed um and one of the things some foreshadowing obviously mavida is an applicant and i think that they are a strong applicant and one of the things that we were we were in discussion with mevita um and we had a pre-meeting before today uh last month with ifo our city manager and we talked about you know you know the potential of this fund because i think everybody would agree that this is a very positive you know development for our community for our county for our city and what we thought was important was to have a courtesy presentation to you all to kind of share with you our philosophy meaning the fund advisors philosophy and ifo had recommended and thought it was a good idea for for us to brief you as well on this but one of the aspects that we're looking at with movida is the the concept of a closing fund and a stackable closing fund that can be stacked in a multi-year award and we know the incentives that new mexico has which i think are good um some states have some incentives that are better than ours but we have some incentives that are better than other states when it comes to leta in particular which i think is our strongest you know uh incentive as a state of course jtip is a good program too but one of the things that we can build um as a community and i think mavida is is putting this forward as the concept is the the concept of building a closing fund that can be used for things that you the city really can't do because of anti-donation for say infrastructure say a company wants to come in but they need some funds for some infrastructure so on and so forth and that that closing fund can be built and that really i think strengthens the collaboration between mavida and the city and the county as well to have access to those type of funds and obviously it needs to be proven these type of funds that you just don't write a check and hope they come they've got to demonstrate that they've hired jobs that they've made an investment and they're here and then it can be back funded on that as well so i just wanted to give you a foreshadowing that there are some create creative discussions going on to uh to do some things that we've not really been able to do as a community and as a state with some closing fund uh incentives as well so um with that i just want to stop and answer any questions because again i wanted to make it brief um and this is a courtesy to let you know kind of our our thinking our philosophy on this and to answer any questions that you have thanks sean when you say closing fund you mean like close the deal fund so okay yeah all right i'm sorry thanks that's okay no no no problem and then also and i'm waiting for council if they have any questions i'm also if um is it is it broken down into city and county or is it just all either or you know like half a million city half a million county or is it just whatever whatever is you all feel is best yeah i think you know let's let's assume let's say that that an award goes to an organization that that manages the closing fund we really don't want to get into the details of of city county let's say a closing fund is awarded to movita and they manage that which the city and the county you have a seat at the table with mevita they'll come up with a criteria on that we're not going to come up with it x percent has to be county x percent has to be city i think what's most important is good projects that are vetted and can contribute to the economy and the growth of our re of our county is what's most important that's my personal feeling and the money will will follow good ideas okay uh looks we have a question from councillor vasquez thank you mayor uh thank you mr hummer for your presentation and representing um this initiative today uh yeah i'm wondering first of all i'll just start by saying um i know el paso electric under this new leadership and restructure that they recently did has changed a lot of their philanthropic and community giving programs and opportunities and so uh grateful that they are thinking about um investing this money in our community as a fund to generate economic development opportunity i just want to say that first um second in terms of this model um i haven't seen this model before um especially from a utility company and so um i'm wondering mr hummer if this was based as far as you know off of other models that have worked in other communities do other utilities typically do this um how have you seen perhaps maybe similar companies uh use a a program like this to spur economic development in other places um just to see kind of where we are in terms of the precedent of of el paso electric organizing a program like this in our community i i do not have knowledge of any others this this is the you know the first of its kind that i'm aware of and and i let me catch that by saying that my role really wasn't involved in the creation or the where and the wherefore of it other than i read about it at the same time probably everybody else read that wasn't involved in the creation of it and then i got a phone call and said we want to nominate you to be a fund advisor would you be interested in that and i said i said i would be interested so really i i had no no reason to do any research as to if it's been done elsewhere before but i think i'm glad it's being done here because i think it's better than not having the money so thank you mr humber i appreciate that and i i haven't seen it i haven't seen this model either so i'm just curious to see if this was you know something that that other utilities had done in in communities where this you know would have produced similar or or the types of results that we're looking for um what what is i don't want to put you on the spot here but what would an ideal situation be like for the use of this fund um what kind of hypothetical situation would you see this fund being used for in the city of las cruces that you would say and this is why i signed up to do this and it's successful and um we will yeah we would call this a success so just from from my perspective and you know and i just go i've been here now going on 22 years so i'm just coming from my my perspective and experience since i've been in the state if i was to wave a magic wand i think the ideal situation would be a an msu graduate that has a business idea that was able to raise capital and to create a business opportunity in our community and to create a product grow it hire hundreds and hundreds of people locally that would be the ideal second to that would be a company coming in from outside that would would be an influx of new jobs be it manufacturing be it high tech be it you know any other type of you know economic based uh job creator to come in and and to stay here long term but if you ask me the question what would be the ideal would be that first that first scenario thank you mr i agree with that for sure um what if it's a community solar company if they manufacture panels here and they sell them out you know absolutely yeah i mean you know uh you know if they're yeah i mean i have not i'm not opposed i've got on a side note full disclosure my wife and i we own steinberg real estate if you have if you ever look at the google earth that entire plaza is full of solar panels we put in solar panels seven years ago so um no i yeah i appreciate that um yeah no i you know i think certainly again appreciate the investment on the part of el paso electric for this closing fund and interested to see how it would work especially in conjunction with tools that we have in place like lida and certainly some of the work that navita and others are doing in this space whenever you can leverage dollars from from you know community partners as well as local and state government federal government to to bring forth projects that are beneficial to our community i'm all for it um so i'm excited to learn more about how this fund would be used and um see the evolution of where it goes and thankful for you and el paso electric for um contributing this to our community so thank you thank you people to receive funding based on the quality of their project as well so um it doesn't mean that they don't get it directly from the grant they can still go to the economic development organizations who may be receiving funding to also receive that funding as well okay great well very good well again thank you very much for sharing this information with us and as well as bringing us this news and so with that i think um you're you're good i mean go back to wherever it is you were doing so thanks okay thanks thanks again thanks for everything you all do thanks bye-bye okay so now we're going to go ahead and move to item 4.2 the fiscal year 21-20-22 proposed budget and cip being presented by leanne damouche and david cedillo so who's going to start first probably leanne he's going to be me mayor let me as you know i'm not real good at this let me i'm getting better can you see my screen yes okay let me see if i can make it full can we see it full yeah pretty good good okay okay let me do one more thing mayor excuse me okay i'm going to move you guys over here great okay so mayor it is that time of the year mayor and council we have david sedillo and our staff have met with you on multiple times uh it is per our charter just to let you know that uh at least 60 days and i apologize with the allergies i have a little bit of a frog in my throat today uh 60 days prior to the start of the new fiscal year the city manager shall submit a budget and a budget message to the council for the next fiscal year and that's uh what we're fulfilling today is what is in our charter okay so this is our budget book cover i hope you like it it was developed by um carla walton our theme if it looks familiar is together we can which is what the theme we had for um what uh carla put together with community communications together we can um i'd also like during this time mayor council is to just introduce a little bit of the team that we have of course my budget team i could not do this job without them of course that's matt signs will blanchard and sherelle della cruz um we do have a team for this presentation it's not just me up here giving this all to you we have our economist kyle eager who i'll be passing off to him after that we have our i.t director scott maher who is going to be introducing a new uh plan or program to you and then of course turning it over to david sedillo who is our public works director also would like to give a shout out to of course carla who designed our beautiful cover sarah cundiff who works on the cip for public works and of course our deputy director mr tony trevino so our proposed budget summary uh conservative budget especially due to the coven 19 recession we are not asking for any increases in property taxes or grt we did take in your council considerations and myself and mr david sedillo will be going over those with you in this presentation um and that was part of the direction at the last work session that we had with you and of course elevate las cruces and your new strategic plan initiative that was adopted by council as well so our budget development this year per our city management guidelines we did budget a salary benefit increase of 2.5 percent it is in our budget and any union negotiation contracts that we had we took that into consideration as well some of them are either higher or lower than the 2.5 percent so we took all of those into consideration we are asking for three new positions and it's they're not actually new uh what it is is uh parks and rec asks for six of their part-time after-school employees to become uh full-time so they're already budgeted at 50 so actually if you take six and you divide it by two you get three new positions so actually just six people are becoming full-time uh re-classes uh city management said reclasses only if the increase is less than 10 percent so we took all of that into consideration we are doing a open salary savings actually this would be our third year my third year of the budget as well that we've had open salary savings this year we put us open salary savings of 5 million and then in operating of course all of the departments reviewed their budgets to meet their performance strategic results of course elevate was always on our mind the whole time in our new strategic plan a little bit of the budget highlights using the new strategic plan you'll notice i'm using the themes the first one being community prosperity we did put some budget towards the certified site program which is updating the las cruces innovation industrial park master plan in the overlay zone to stimulate business in that area uh the downtown business incubator which you you discussed um with the tid uh earlier as i think chris had mentioned to you he did budget some operational funds some startup funds to help develop additional business activity in the downtown um then there's funding for main street grant program to develop additional business activity in the downtown area as well and then the el paseo and solano corridor for a metropolitan redevelopment area plan uh next theme is education and community services we anticipate the last quarter of fiscal year 22 to open our new community pool so we budgeted that under um you know for one quarter it includes new positions it includes some operating expenses you know supplies purchase services general things like that um environmental sustainability we increase infrastructure and purchases of ev vehicles so we are looking at uh for fiscal year 22 hopefully purchasing some electric vehicles uh which has been discussed as you know in the last couple of work sessions and resolutions that went to council recently capital improvements and infrastructure we have talked about the payment condition index which when we get into the council priorities we'll talk a little bit more of how we what we budgeted for the pci and then under communication involvement and follow-up um this year we have budgeted the main street or maybe it's not necessarily main street but the extension of the main street public wi-fi and this year for fy22 there should be on our website a dashboard for performance and performance-based budgeting we're using opengov and we hope to get that up and going for fy 22 and then of course under public safety which is part of the council priorities that we've been discussing we did budget for the mobile integrated health program so at this point i'm going to turn the presentation over to mr collieger who is our economist all right thank you liam yeah this is kyle eager i'm the economist for the las cruces economic development department i'll be providing a brief snapshot snapchat snapshot of the current economic conditions in the city of las cruces i'll be focusing particularly on labor market conditions within the city so we'll first look at general employment conditions this graph shows long run trends in employment growth for the city of las cruces this data comes from the bureau of labor statistics local area employment statistics so these numbers are based on household surveys of people residing within the city limits so prior to the copen 19 crisis the city had experienced steady employment growth since 2010 starting in march of 2020 we observe a sharp decline in employment however since july there's been a recovery in terms of total employment for the city so as of february 2021 our best preliminary estimates that we get from the bureau of labor statistics they suggest that total employment within the city was uh 44 302 which is about 1 338 jobs less than total employment in february of 2020 or that's about 3 percent less again most recent observations are preliminary estimates and they're subject to change they're subject to change by the bureau of labor statistics as time goes on so although we are um 1 000 about you know 1 300 jobs away from where we were in february 2020 i should note that we need to consider population growth during this time uh we still have a ways to go to get back to where we were you know prior to to where we were if if there had been no covet and of course that number is difficult to uh to calculate uh however when you take into account population growth we're actually more like 2 000 jobs away from where we need to be but we're about 4 000 jobs less than where we need to be so as you probably noticed that there's considerable seasonal seasonality in in this employment data where there's often a a thousand job difference between november and january and because of that it can make kind of uh distinguishing the month-to-month fluctuations uh from the long-run trend difficult uh and because of that it's it's useful to look at year over year employment statistics um so next slide please i thank you so this graph shows monthly employment for 2019 2020 and our preliminary estimates for 2021. so this is the same data as before it's just presented in a different manner so if you look at if you compare your 2019 with 2020 you'll notice that at the start of 2020 we were doing better than we had done in 2019 and then you you see the effect of the coveted shutdowns but then a recovery that begins in august um and then we of course have our 2021 preliminary numbers on total employment for the city um so um given that you know we are seeing a rise in employment there are there are reasons to be cautiously optimistic next slide please so a common question is is what industries have been hurt the most by the covid 19 shutdowns and we have data on that unfortunately it comes out with a considerable lag with the core 3 2020 being the most recent data available so quarter four data should be coming out later this week uh although this information is a bit dated it still has value in telling us what industries have been impacted the most um i should note that whereas the previous data in the previous two graphs came from household surveys this data comes from surveys of businesses so it comes from the quarterly census of employment and wages so they take they use information from payroll data to to get these estimates so total employment won't match the reason being that more people work in the city and live in the city uh so looking at this this data we see that the largest declines in employment have been concentrated in the retail trade sector as well as the accommodations and food services sector we also observe a large decline in employment in administrative and support services uh about a 800 job decrease so i have looked into that particular sector and most of that employment loss is due to a decline in call center employment however i'm doing some follow-up research on that that decline in call center employment it is not something that's unique to las cruces so if you if you look at data from the bureau of labor statistics um since 2017 if you look at total employment in that sector for the whole entire united states um beginning around the second quarter of tucson 2017 the united states has been experiencing a decline in call center employment and a lot of it is because they are offshoring a lot of call centers um so that's a snapshot of the las cruces economy and i'll turn things back over to leanne thank you thank you so much kyle so mayor council we're going to jump right into the budget this is our all funds expenditured so this is our total citywide budget as you can see uh we're at close to a half a billion 497.8 million as you can see the general fund and the um special revenue there's a big jump in the expenditures for the general fund which i will actually get into a little bit more detail in a in some slides uh when we talk about the general fund uh but overall uh we have a 20 increase there is um as you can see 115.1 million for the general fund other operating funds uh these are funds that are like our there's a these are all funds that start with the one they're they're still considered general funds uh for example there's economic development the vehicle acquisition fund facilities and the hold harmless grt these are all in the other operating funds um our special revenue revenue funds these are funds that start with the twos uh and by the way in your book or you know in the attached document this starts on page eight which is our recap our recalculation you can actually see the different funds uh this goes from page 8 to page 11 in your book these funds are funds that are restricted or they're dedicated to a special project and typically these are funds that are tied to either a state statute or an ordinance or to a resolution an example of that is the gas tax the tit that we just talked about that's considered a special revenue because it's tied to a state ordinance and also a city ordinance the telstra fund the street maintenance and flood control all of those are revenue because they're tied to um to either a resolution or an ordinance or a state statute and then you have the debt service funds and of course these are funds that are used to pay principal and interest on debt that the city has our capital project funds as you can see there's an increase of 40 percent most of the reason for this increase is actually the majority of this is carryovers and if you'll remember in fiscal year 21 we went out for our second phase of funding for the go bonds and it was allowed it was a rather larger uh chunk of the go bonds and as you know all of those projects are ongoing uh we also did our recycling of our bonds and so we have a lot of pro we have a lot of capital projects that are ongoing right now and so that makes up why there's an increase of 40 percent and the majority of these is not necessarily we're asking for more capital uh funds what it is is most of these are all carryovers from the previous years of capital projects then in the enterprise you see another jump in the enterprise and the enterprise funds those are the funds that start with the five and those funds are typically utilities the airport and transit um are uh enterprise funds um as you know the utility board uh takes their their uh budget to their utility board which they already have they've had a special work session or a work session and they have adopted a resolution to bring forward to council and we we have that part of the reason that you see an increase in these enterprises funds is not necessarily because of utilities but because in this past year if you will remember the grants department and budget brought to you a couple of resolutions for transit we brought to you the facility the grant for the facility which was a 11 million dollar grant that we bought so we just recently in fy 21 budgeted for that grant and also we brought in the um electric buses and so we budgeted that in 21. so a lot of this increase in the enterprise fund is uh due to these capital projects because those capital projects are within the the five within that enterprise just like utilities capital projects are also in the enterprise funds as well and then of course we have our internal services and our internal services are those particular funds that support our own internal operations and that includes such as fleet services we also have in there the health fund of you know for our benefits we have the liability claims in there and also workers comp and then under trust and agency funds uh these are all of the funds that start with seven and eight and this is typically uh our jpa's murda metro uh animal service center south central solid waste and then we have a couple of accounts in there that we receive donations and and trust from very small amount for those um this is where our budget uh this is just a different way of showing you where our budget is i think sometimes graphically it's a lot easier to read as you can see the largest portion of our budget citywide budget of course is our enterprise funds then next you have the general fund capital funds and followed by internal trust at seven percent special revenue and debt at four percent so i'm going to jump into the general fund um the general fund as you know is the largest fund for the um department for the city departments as you can see from fiscal year 21 the current year that we're in the fiscal year 22 there is a 19 increase and as i mentioned i will be going into a little bit more detail of why there is such a large jump as you'll see but it went from 97.0 million to 115.12. so general fund summary so before i begin and um the mayor and counselor floris have already heard this a little bit uh this has to do with uh recently we have the state passed house bill 479 and i'm sure that's now sounding very familiar and what house bill 479 did was it de-earmarked a certain municipal and um county local options gross receipts tax and so with the city and i did not put i did a presentation to the finance select committee on friday and we talked about in depth about house bill 479 but sort of giving you in the nutshell version but what it what it did was was any grt that we have specifically dedicated to certain operations the state has now undedicated them and the city actually has several and um specifically we have quite a few ordinances that we dedicated our grt just to the general fund we have quite a few of those and then we have a couple of dedications to certain items certain programs that we have one of them being street improvements we have another one for environmental services this is our environmental gross receipts tax we have one for police and fire department programs and then we have another one for our hold harmless grt so what the the state did was they they de-dedicated or deep earmarked most of the grts that we have dedicated to those being specifically street improvements the environmental gross receipts tax and the hold harmless grt so now since our hold harmless is not really an issue because it's already going into a general fund but specifically this is for street improvements which is 2600 which is a special revenue and then um our other one is environmental gross receipts tax which is in 2800 so now because of this de-ear marking for fy 22 all of the revenue and all of the expenses now have to go into the general fund okay so this is pretty much why you see this big jump because they used to be in a special revenue that started with the two and now they are actually being brought in uh the revenue and the expenses and you can see there's a jump in the revenue as well the revenue the expenses and the transfers are now in the general fund so that's why you see this big expense um so overall you can see that our ending balance went from 20 million to 21 and the reason that our reserve you're probably wondering why did our 212th reserve go up well the reason for our 212th reserve increase is because our reserve is calculated on our expenses well since our expenses went up 19 our report now goes up 19 so that is why you see now that we have an unreserved balance of 1.94 million so i'm going to jump into a little bit of the um mr pele wanted me to give you a little bit more input into uh why we have that increase other than just house bill 479 it involves a a couple of other things um the difference of course is the 18.1 million as you can see here with the increase of the 2.5 million i mean 2.5 percent in the union contracts you see an increase in salaries and benefits for fy 22 about 5.2 million in our operating we see some new new operating expenses of about 1.7 million and then one of two of the other changes i should say that for fy22 we made all kinds of changes this year but uh what two of them have to do with reclassing some transfers uh to an expense and the reason we did these uh was that fleet services is an internal uh with the city it should be um it should be set up as an internal and it is just for you know for basic operations to know what the true costs are for each of the departments in the past we had always considered fleet as what we call a chargeback they perform a service for a department and they pretty much send them a bill and then that department pays for it and so a couple of years ago i'm not privy to why this happened but a couple of years ago any of the departments that had fleet vehicles that were in the general fund they made um an automatic transfer instead of using the chargeback expense that i mentioned so we're just we're just writing this it it needs to be considered an expense i've talked with accounting with our finance director she agrees with me this needs to be an expense to the departments and bringing in an income instead of a transfer in the general fund the other item that we're reclassing into transfers to an expense are the jpas and the reason for this is as you know every year the finance department puts together the comprehensive annual financial plan and in this plan the jpas are are considered a commitment that's a good word to use we are committed to give so many dollars to animal service center murder and metro and so since they are and they are considered an expense in our financial our comprehensive financial report so it they need to be budgeted as so as well and so working with finance as well we have reclassed those transfers to an expense which is what they should be so that's about 4.3 million as you can see and then from the house bill 479 that i just mentioned you see about 3.4 million of expenses that are going to be coming out of the general fund uh for the the funds that were in the special revenue and so all together you can see why there's an increase of 18.1 million now i also wanted to bring up the general fund transfers because if you if you remember back on the previous slide they seemed very comparable and the reason being is is an and hopefully this is not i tried to make this as transparent as possible but for our fiscal year 21 as i just mentioned fleet services is considered a transfer right now for this fiscal year so we're reclassing that to an expense so we're not going to have that transfer and fy22 and we're also doing the jpa's that way just as i just mentioned so we're not going to have that 4.3 million as a transfer so we're getting rid of the 7.8 it's going to be an expense but we do now that 2600 is now in the general fund due to house bill 479 they do have some transfers out of the general fund for debt and for capital projects and that's around 6.5 million we did increase this year the transfer to the liability fund of a million dollars and then um the other one the other house bill 479 was 2800 which is our environmental gross receipts tax and there is um a transfer to uh 2780 um which goes to the grits walnut and then we have a couple of other increases in there um you know a little bit of debt as you saw debt did not really go up that much and we did increase our our our transfer to the airport they are needing some capital equipment such as i i think no one is a really large mower they need to mow around the runways and keep that really clean and so i i think i put a couple of pieces of equipment in there for the airport to purchase these tractors and mowers and then so we always like to know where's our money coming from okay so as you can see our revenue is 114.2 million and this gross receipts tax does include the um environmental gross receipts tax and the funds for the street improvements 2800 so typically our gross receipts tax revenue is about 70 about 72 million 73 million so you can see that we've really increased due to those two particular grts coming into the general fund now um property tax 13.2 million excise and other taxes these are the franchise we get franchise fees as you know we get a couple of other little taxes i think we get some tax from cigarette tax and then we get some we get some license plates so if you have las cruces license plates we get some funding from them as well and then other revenue this includes funding like from the within the departments so things like the community development they have permit fees and business license fees the police department has fees um the parts are wrecked for you know renting the the parks and renting um for baseball and hopefully um once covet opens up and we're able to open up the city this past year those revenues have not come in very strongly but hopefully we're anticipating that we're going to start off fy 22 hopefully not jinxing myself with the bang and get everything open um our internet sales tax it's not based on um it's not based on sales of what is sold this is a fixed amount we've received about 2.1 2.2 million um we actually in one of the special sessions and i think i've brought this up the governor actually doubled the internet sales tax so for fy 22 the state has assured me that this will be our fixed rate for for the fiscal year so this is a another graphic of where our money goes so these are our expenditures 115.1 million this is actually if you look on in your book on page 12 this is where this information come came from and as you can see uh the largest chunk of our funding goes to for emergency services for police department fire and then as you can see parks and rec has a lot has a large she's growing um parks and rec is growing every year close to somewhere around nine to twelve percent somewhere in there each year it varies um as you can see uh public works grew mostly because uh now that we because of uh house bill all of those expenses are now coming into the general fund and most of the street will not most all of the street improvement expenses are now in public works though uh public works is um budget operating budget has grown as well and then the others are pretty you know remaining pretty much the same um and as i said uh this follows page 12 of your book and then this is a different view of where our money goes as you can see it just give you uh where it's going most of it as you well know in in previous years and really just for businesses in general the largest portion of the pie is always personnel this is uh this is salaries and benefits um our operating is 27 percent and our capital is one percent now i want to jump into our hold harmless grt um our hold harmless um coming into the all of our grt receives hold harmless grt uh this is a specific cold harmless grt that we set up i want to say in 20 gosh help me mayor 2016 i think it was that we started it um but that's right i think it was 2014 when we passed the tax yes and so as you can see we have a nice little beginning balance 4.59 revenues are coming in very steady as uh compared to 21. our expenditures went up just a little bit uh transfers out went up just a little bit so now we we do not need to meet a 212th reserve on this fund because we meet it all in our general fund so we have an available balance as you can see a 5.29 um so i'm making we're going to jump into the next slide on your council priorities mayor and council and so um mr cedillo and i are proposing that we use this fund the hold harmless to be used for your council proposed council priorities and so with what we're going to be showing you and making a recommendation to you is to use about 2.78 million that would give us an unreserved balance of 2.51 and so with that mayor i'm going to i'm going to be leading this but of course at any time i've asked david to jump in um the green the column where it says budgeted in fy this is what we have budgeted as you can see on the source of funding and the comments um we have put if some of this is already budgeted in the general fund we had it previously budgeted i think you know we've had two individual meetings with all of the council and mayor and we've also had two work sessions on the council priorities um and so the last work session that was that we had the mayor and council asked david and i and staff to come with a proposal to you and this is what we're doing today so what we are proposing um i'm only going to cover the ones in the green but if you have any questions at the end of the presentation david and i can go back to these as well um we're proposing a budget in the hold harmless for two million dollars for the pavement condition index we this will be a perpetual expense which means every year we will need to be budgeting this of course we had already been budgeting the la casa maintenance that was already in the general fund the arts and cultural district district improvements the 15 000 that was already in the general fund as well and then the senior center kitchen equipment i did budget that already in the general fund as well the airport operations that was already in the general fund worked with andy and we we got that all budgeted for a re-class of a position that he has um then gallagher park uh we're recommending or proposing that we uh put funding in there for gallagher park out of the hold harmless that's part of the 2.78 million for and fifty thousand dollars uh the chandler tank part phase two um was 625 and we're proposing to budget that in the hold harmless grt as well um the social worker was already budgeted in the telstra fund uh the mobile integrated health program is in the general fund the 535 000. the mobile crisis unit is budgeted within the police department and then the el paseo and solano corridor we budgeted that in the general fund as well so we're proposing um a budget in fy 22 of about 4.1 million for your council priorities and with that i would like to turn it over to mr scott maher who is our i.t uh director to talk about a a new uh pilot program technology improvement plan scott thank you leanne and uh good morning good afternoon mayor and council i'm scott maher i'm the i.t director and i also have to apologize i seem to have a frog in my throat as well with the with my uh allergies um the plan that i want to talk about today is a key component of our technology governance program this pilot is the first time that we are attempting to launch this plan the goal of it is to provide for better budgeting planning and management of technology-based solutions we're primarily focusing on new business systems and applications that use web servers or database servers and um the schedule of the plan parallels the cip schedule which you're familiar with being a pilot departments were asked this year to volunteer to participate in the process if they were planning on technology projects in fy 22 next slide please so the process that we go through in this plan is we start with the departments completing a technology project request form and submitting that request to their business systems analyst that gets passed on to our technology review committee which reviews these requests for compliance with our technology standards that then goes to with a recommendation to our steering committee which reviews prioritizes and approves or denies the requests submissions are made in november and the committee reviews are performed in december and january and then moving forward it's part of the city manager's office approval of the budget it's included in the budget for the next fiscal year for those projects approved and then comes to council as part of the budget approval process next slide so the two uh projects that we have for fy22 which were submitted and approved uh both from quality of life and both part of the transit program first was a clever devices replacement and upgrade and a dial-a-ride customer software upgrade next slide so the clever devices replacement uh the the current version that transit is using no longer is no longer supported and must be converted to a new product called from the same manufacturer called cleverworks this software updates the gps mapping and the bus time web page so that there's real-time information to the public based on the location of the buses and the routes it also tracks the route and driver time performance which is a measure for their strategic goal next slide the dial-a-write customer software this is a notification system that'll enable clients to book trips uh receive automatic notification and give the clients ability to cancel trips and receive reminders of the book of the trips they have booked so this will help free up dispatchers and assist uh operations for transit and with that uh next is david cedillo and the capital improvement program thank you thanks scott thank you scott good afternoon mayor council as scott mentioned i'm david seville public works director for the record i'll be going over the capital improvements program those councils where we do have to have a cip which is required by our city charter article 5 specifically section 5.05 simply states that one must be submitted to council as part of a five-year capital improvement program as part of that we go through an input process next slide please as part of that process we get gather input from council public departments the city manager's office and non-profit organizations also from assessments approved plans from council such as elevate las cruces and also that of available funding i'd like to go over again just briefly the difference between the capital improvement program and the infrastructure capital improvement plan the cip is a program which is approved by council that shows funded and unfunded projects this is a plan that spans over six years with the first year funded the remaining five are unfunded the icip is needed to be on the cip to be eligible for submissions through the state legislature so as part of that that's part of that grant funding source this is the five-year plan that is outside of the funded column and is updated in the icip database every year that database is housed by the new mexico department finance authority local government division and typically there are rarely any changes but if those do occur those have to happen with special permissions from the state i'd like to share with you some of those changes that occurred for the fy 22 cip process and then the final product as part of this council is aware the city did go through a new organizational structure so this made some changes to this eip whereas in the past only departments were listed with this new organizational change you will notice that you do have departments and programs now listed in the cip for example economic development as a department and visit las cruces as a program another change i'd like to note is south central solid waste authority wants to have the ability to look for legislative funding as such they have moved into getting their request on the cip under public works for future projects they would like to go forward at the next legislature for equipment as noted there in the graphic below the other changes i'd like to highlight are those that we revised in the matrix that basically have all rank their projects uh some of these you may see in there are they are existing ones from last year uh although some of them have been improved and the criteria updated based on council's movement with their priorities as well uh one to note you will notice community benefit although benefit was in the matrix last year this improvement we wanted to highlight and increase the improvements to those living standards the creation of permitted jobs equality and increased access to resources and recreation you will also notice planning alignment this was this placed more emphasis on those plans approved by council such as elevate las cruces and the active transportation plan however i would like to know that we do have a new item in there called sustainability and water conservation so this gives projects the opportunity to rank their projects a little higher due to those initiatives that they are doing with their projects such as the level of water consumption carbon emissions and contribution to ecological processes lastly we do have scheduling although it was on there before but we wanted to make sure and change this prior we just said if your project was ready within a year we know that we need to get projects going as soon as we have the funding available this right here does increase that project's ability by making sure that it's shovel ready so once budgeting is available we can quickly move it out to implementation so now i'll go over some of the looks of the new cip this is the first page which is part of the packet as you notice there's not much change here we have the department or program list in the first column the second would be they're funded your next five are those icip which ranges from fy 23 through 27 and lastly that funded column which identifies the source for the appendices we have some that are existing we have some new i'll go over those here we have appendix a which tabulates all the newly funded projects for fy22 as you can see there those are all the new newly funded projects again this will include any discussion from today's meeting on the final product for council's priorities as well on appendix b we're highlighting and showing all the totals for all those projects listed in the cip for newly carryover annual and future projects by department and program on appendix c i'd like to highlight a new appendix which would be your park impact fees so this highlights and identifies all the projects that have the pif as a funding source now it may be the sole or a contributing funding source but it does identify that in the appendix on which projects do have that funding source and for appendix d similar we do have that for the tid again that's the funding source for these projects or whether it be the sole or a supplementing funding source and with that leanne and i in the group will oh i'm sorry we have notations that go through i apologize uh next slide please i wanted to highlight some of those items and notations in the cip i know we've gone over this but just wanted to mention these we had recently the 2021 legislative session appropriations uh here you will notice that we do have those appropriations that will be coming in if you notice in the column the first column it's noted 2021 legislative appropriation since we have not accepted when i say we council has not accepted these funds or accepted that appropriation it is out in the 23 column once this comes before council and it's accepted it will be moved into the funded column and conversely the cip will be amended at that time as well so here are those projects that were approved under the 2021 legislative session and they will pop up right here as you notice we have the east mesa roads drainage madrid avenue and so forth that were approved under this legislative session also we have those other 2020 legislative appropriations that are still in need of acceptance now we used march 15th as a cut off to produce the document for the cip so although they may have already been accepted by council once the full fy22cip is approved we will be coming back at the new fiscal year in july to move those appropriations from 2020 into the funded column and then conversely have the cip amended and here are those legislative projects that were accepted and approved during that session now leanne and i are both available for any questions from council and mayor thank you thanks david thanks david so counselor vasquez thank you mayor thank you david um i just want to start off with one quick question here that's around the uh the cip projects that are to be funded by the hold harmless funds um the chandler tank project and the vmware damn project um i think thank you um so i think i see here for the vmware damn project is not funded in this fiscal year or the next two years but in future years um which tells me we're not planning on funding that at least right now according to this budget um uh for this year um but then in the slide prior i think we do have chandler park or the chandler tank uh project funded um the phase two uh could you just explain uh david or leanne um what the rationale is like how that decision was made in terms of two very similar i think park projects yes thank you councillor vasquez uh mayor councillor vasquez david cedillo public works director uh although that is not being funded at this time we do have funding available under this current fiscal year we have an amount of 123 000 we also have 2020 legislative funding in the amount of 250 000 that we are waiting for approval to move into the new fiscal year so based on that and those funds that are available that would be the startup money to move the project forward as we seek additional funding for the plan thank you david i appreciate that and i think um i just gotta have to continue to advocate for via mora dam because it's already being used as a park and i know i've said this before but it's also in an it's also in in a low to mid income area of the city uh potentially the largest open space um that we can that we can actually create to be a park that's all you know in in sa on city property um and so i know i've asked for just the opportunity to build out uh some very maybe rudimentary infrastructure there that allows people to actually use that park with some degree of safety and trails and parking i mean what whatever i don't think it has to be a multi-million dollar project now but for me where i see the needs are where people are already using existing park space like there's folks already essentially using that as that space and so um you know i i i just wish that there could have been some prioritization especially because it is in an urban area where you're not going to get more green space i think in that area than what is currently there at the vmware dam um so i'm just wondering in terms of the i know the cip projects get um they score differently based on the criteria i think that that your department sets forth and other departments also set forth and the council sets forth so i i am just wondering david if if the chandler tank project scored higher than the vmware dam park project uh and for and if you have any more insight as to why thank you council vasquez mayor david cevillo that process was based on the interactions and the process that we went through as leanne had mentioned in the one-on-ones and the work sessions prior to so based on that and trying to utilize the funding or what we already have in hand to move forward with some of these initiatives that's how the recommendation is coming forward yes you did mention that you would like to see some of these things and that's what staff is looking and working towards with the available funding that we have now and what will be coming in once that 2020 legislative funding is appropriated thank you david um you know the obviously chandler the chandler tank project is not in my district and um i know councillor sword uh very much wants to see that park developed as well as i do with my my own park in my district it just would be helpful to know how that determination was specifically made as to if there are existing opportunities to fund parks in different parts of the city what the criteria is of where we're going to invest you know six hundred to seven hundred thousand dollars on the development of a park and my my interest is really to make sure that that is an equitable uh process that there's considerations to available or existing park space in the surrounding neighborhood um you know even something as the health conditions of of of certain parts or certain demographics of the city to make sure we're that our investments are going into the places where a green space like this is really needed um and and is uh equitable so uh maybe that's a conversation for us to have later david i would love to find some other sources of funding for vmware damn um besides i think the 170 thousand dollars perhaps that we have existing which i believe is for planning and design um but but again i just i would hate for us to lose out on an opportunity in where people are already using an existing space as a park not to begin to give our residents the opportunity to have safety and lighting and trails and you know those kind of things um so i'll i'll just stop there but um david maybe we can have a separate conversation about how we get there uh later um but but i regardless i appreciate all your hard work these are easy decisions and i know we have a lot of priorities not all of them can get funded too uh so i appreciate you um just hearing me out uh because you know i've been i've been talking about that one for a while but um i appreciate it david and uh leanne as well your whole team for putting this presentation um together but for doing our budget is just uh um it's a lot of work um and i may have some questions or comments later but just wanted to bring that point up for now so thank you thank you mayor we appreciate thank you thank you vasquez mayor step away i'm still right here uh i'm here for tim i'm gonna have to make a quick comment and then i'm going to just take out for about five minutes counselor vasquez i'm just going to ask you something um two things one i think uh the via mora i mean the chandler tank probably was you know as you know was done i don't know you know accidental or was not supposed to have been done by a previous administration and and and i think they probably wanted to you know get that back to where it was where it was you know where it used to be but i was going to ask you something i wonder because if we if we really do are serious about the the extension of of madrid and the east-west another east-west corridor i wonder if it would be good to have a work session on this take a look at some possibility because we're going to have to have a little bit of uh of um you know well possibility of some commercial on either side of that street and instead of selling it just like what we're we're thinking of the don't the loma property lease it and then that money can be used to fund uh in perpetuity the improvements that you want to see then that way there is kind of um is that something you'd be open to having a work session on that because i think it's time because i don't think people really know the the the size of it and the history of it and and the proximity and how it can actually really be developed and i think if we are kind of creative to uh being open-minded to having some of this money this that that that land itself can generate because i think there's if we do have that park there's going to be some vendors who are going to want to be there you know you're going to want to have restrooms there but you're going to have vendors there that can really add to the fun of people kind of using that area no thank you mayor and i think some degree of commercial activity there i think has has been in the iterations of the plan since the apodaca blueprint was created um the first the first i guess um design concept had a little bit too much commercial for me because it was really i think i think part of the the return to our residents is that green space but i think certainly some some degree of commercial like you said that evens that that would produce the type of grt that could help fund the sustainability of maintenance and everything else i'm totally fine with that so i think that's a good idea um like i said i just don't want to miss out on on on the opportunity now if that if that is three or four years down the line it's like hey let's let's let's let's let folks use this park with dignity in the meantime as well to some degree um just because you know i mean technically folks are trespassing there right like that's the city property it's not a part it's not designated as a park and so if you're walking your dog on there right now which i bet you a bunch of people are they're technically trespassing so i just want to get that some minimal funds to open that up while we invest into the development of a permanent park there but uh but no i agree with you man i think that's a good idea okay well we'll get that scheduled on a work session here upcoming okay thank you man be right back thank you mayor thank you council vasquez counselor sword thank you madam mayor pro tem um yeah i to continue that discussion uh i that the gra the tables you have here are confusing um you have seven hundred thousand dollars for via mora and then um is that that not there or is it there uh do we have that seven hundred thousand or don't we david wake up yes thank you counselor sword i was i was waiting to see if leanne wanted to go over but i'll answer the question no this is all cip stuff yes so the first column that you see the amount that is the amount that was estimated for that project that is just identifying what that would cost okay the next three columns are showing as leanne had mentioned before what has been or is going to be budgeted in fy 22 the next column which says budgeted in next two years those are identifying sources of how those can be budgeted in the next two fiscal years fy 23 fy 24 and then the last column which you noted the budgeted in future years or anywhere between fy 23 and fy 27 of being budgeted in those outer years okay okay now is my understanding that there was some legislative money appropriated for vmware wasn't there not counselor sword you have a leg that's what i had mentioned to councillor vasquez we do have that 2020 legislative appropriation that still needs to be approved by council and brought in in the amount of 250 000 so then we we can use that next this coming year then right once that appropriation is approved by council and moved into the funded column we can start using that funding correct yeah i'm assuming that would happen i don't they see any reason why we would turn that money down no sir yeah let's assume that sue 250 is going to be an fy22 okay yes sir okay we consume that all right so that's that's what's confusing by this table here um and then uh all right then that's okay but um i'm gonna lead up to a resolution here and that is that in the chandler tank case there are a lot of housing that was built around changler tank [Applause] and they all had collected uh park impact fees and none of that housing none of that subdivision none of that neighborhood community ever got a park never did okay still don't have a park to this day and uh it's been going on for what since 2006 seven eight and they started building those there um so that's what's what's happening here in this city um there are neighborhoods and and subdivisions that don't get parks because of one reason or another nobody's ever told me why so i want a resolution uh brought to the city council to vote on uh the prioritizing the using of park impact fees right now park impact fees are dumped into a [Music] not real general fund but a general like fund and they're used wherever the staff wants to use them or that as long as the city council approves them of course i understand that so i think what we ought to do is prioritize the use of park impact fees that provides for park in those neighborhoods those subdivisions that are being built that you that the park impact fees come from and then what's left over we can use on a lot of different things via more and everything else um so that's the resolution i want to see brought to the city council i will draft a rough draft of it and i'll bring it to the city council here in the next month okay um other than that i like the budget it's a pretty good budget um i see a lot of work has been put into it uh we thank all those who are uh have worked on it and um that's all i have to say mayor pro tem thank you very much thank you counselor sir can you clarify for me and and just so you know my internet is very unstable right now so my video's off right um um can you clarify for me where the 250 000 is coming from that you mentioned earlier did i mention 250 yes you said that two well one of you did let's assume the 250 thousand where was that coming from if david help me out david uh mayor pro tem councillor david cedillo for the record that 250 000 is coming from a 2020 legislative appropriation at this current time that has not been accepted by council once it is then it will be moved into the either into the fy 22 budget once it's approved by council and this is for chandler park chandler tank correct no ma'am that is the funding that's available for oh i'm sorry oh got it okay we got to be careful and get these things all straight because i know a lot of us get confused with with uh money going here and there and everywhere okay i'll wait to ask my questions then thank you counselor counselor ben cuomo thank you mayor parteman thank you so much leanne and david and the rest of your team for all the hard work you always put always but definitely around uh the budget i hate that i can't see you guys i'm not okay or whatever um so liam i mind you i don't necessarily think we can say we're new anymore but still the budgeting process is intense and so i might ask you just some very budgeting 101 questions 201 questions um but as i was reading the book yesterday uh preparing for today i sort of there's just a couple things i noticed that i have some questions about um can you talk through how so like on page 12 for example um you know i'm noticing that there are some um departments that are getting less you know that are budgeting for less this upcoming fiscal year some that are budgeting for more how are the how is that determined are those numbers presented by directors and the departments or are they coming to you and city management and you all are sort of saying no i think this department's going to get less this year this department needs more can you talk about how that those decisions are made of course um thank you um mayor pro tem and council bencomo so what we do is as you know we start really early unfortunately and but uh what we do is we we get we sit down with city management and that was why one of the slides that i presented to you was uh you know as city management you know uh not necessarily just mr pealey but you know the management team we get together and we decide you know we have to give some direction to the departments and of course this year the the direction was we're going to do the 2.5 percent increase in salaries and typically on that one hr takes care of it they have everybody's salaries and they go in there and they run it and they load it into our um we this year we used opengov as our budgeting tool this was the first year that we used it but typically it's in munis and then what we do is we ask each department we pretty much told the departments that it was status quo where are you in your revised budget as of december 31st of 2020 so where you are right now is like your starting point now i will tell you some departments um you know may say you know hey we're not going to do this any pro any we're not going to do this program it's ended so they you know they want to take that you know take that out things like this but you know if you look counselor on page i want to say page six we have redone the city organizational chart and this budget and if you um i think if you were listening uh when you heard uh scott maher was talking about are david also about the new um you know we have departments but we also now have sections uh that we're budgeting so as you can see our org chart has a new look so we had to you know we moved out a couple of programs i'll just call them programs we called we pulled out a couple of programs out of some of the departments uh such as visit las cruces used to be part of economic development facilities management used to be part of public works so some of the the ups and downs that you're seeing by the department could be because they might have had us that particular program pulled out of them and put into a different and and one of those and i'm trying to get flip back to that page 12 if you um if you see how much like for instance david's project or david's department grew okay and if you remember i was talking about house bill 479 um i i think i've said that so many times in the last couple of weeks house bill 479 house bill 479 well what used to be a special project or special revenue like i was talking about has now been put into the general fund and 2600 which is one of those um is actually pretty much used if not all used 100 by public works so that is one of the reasons why david's particular budget or public works budget grew so much and then on some of the others the reason it went down was because it could have been that we pulled out a particular program like airport um well airport is now an enterprise but used to be for 21 it used to be a or 2020 it used to be in the general fund so we've done a lot of you know changing around and moving some of these programs so it's is it apples to apples it's it's it's on some it is and some it's not and the best way of knowing which ones we pulled out is to look on page six on that organizational chart that's the best way so hopefully i've answered your question now we'll tell you um that management and budget meet with each department multiple times um and then they they we have them fill out massive forms unfortunately and they they tell us here we want to start this new project we want to start this new program here here's how much it's going to cost and so as you know there's only so much money uh the only money that we have in the general fund is our grt our property taxes you know i went over the different revenues that doesn't that hasn't grown um in a while mostly because of the hold harmless grt which will end in 2030 so we're we're seeing as that's going down but it's staying pretty stable in the revenue um so we do have growth you know kyle talked about population growth um so we're seeing growth it's just happens to be that in that g that hold harmless grt it is pretty stable so um so overall you know they come to us with these new programs and you know sometimes they're budgeted and you know it's it's really them talking to their their acms and talking to the city manager on you know what we're going to budget what we're not going to budget and bringing forward to you and of course this is a work session so i'm i'm was going to say well ago to the mayor and to the council this is the opportune time that if there's something that we have missed you know we're taking notes please let us know because if it's something and mr peeley's online if it's something that you would like to see budgeted then by all means we're we're ready thanks again for that um answer yes that definitely answers my questions i appreciate that um again i apologize if these are rudimentary questions i just i'm trying to fully understand this whole process um in terms of the 2.5 salary increases was that across the board or for just for union employees mayor pro tem and counselor ben como it was across the board now if we do have and i think joe richards is on the line if i don't say this correctly we do have a couple of union uh contracts we have a fire department police department and then of course our blue collar if they have a certain percentage in their union contract hr when they did the budgeting for each of the personnel and benefits they went into those contracts and made sure that those particular people that are our union whether blue collar police or fire will get that appropriate percentage increase what's in their contract okay okay thank you um and then i'm gonna ask you a couple just like really specific questions from the um book can you help me understand the condensed fund summaries portion of this and just sort of you know sort of wondering like why are some of these blank um right can you just talk through this portion okay so in the last couple of years let me talk about the blank funds first in the last couple of years um you know our new fi our well she's not new anymore but our finance director uh miss gehart we've been working with accounting we have a lot of funds if you can't tell from those condensed we have a lot and so what we're trying to do is we're trying to get rid of some of these funds uh there's some that we haven't used in years but unfortunately they keep popping up so we are trying to get rid of these and get rid of any of the excess available balance that we have in there um and so the reason you see a lot of blanks in there is because they may have like a beginning balance in there or there might be some adjustments in there and so we still have to keep showing that particular fun in our accounts but our ultimate goal is to try to knock out as many funds as we possibly can that are not needed anymore so that's why you're seeing the blanks okay as far as the condensed funds many many years ago before i took over budget they used to have one page for every single fund the book was just huge it was huge huge and so one of the things we worked with gfoa we worked with the state you know the dfa and we said can we condense these down and just show you know here's the here's the beginning balance here's the revenue very similar to you know what we showed you on the general fund summary you know here's personnel here's operating here's our capital and they were like yes this is wonderful now we'll tell you at the end of the when we finish the budget and it's brought to council and it's adopted what we do is we take um we we actually have in the book the condensed uh fund summaries but we do have the full con uh fund summaries you know one page for every single fund and we do put that on our web page so that way if somebody wants to to see those and pretty much what those look like if you'll remember the budget adjustments that we bring to council on a monthly basis matt brings them to you the one cheaters that we you know the one sheet that we have that's what those look like so instead of that version we're just condensing it to where we're telling you here's the beginning balance here's the revenue here's the operating here's the capital and you know and then here's the bottom line okay that actually makes a lot of sense thank you um specifically on some of those i had a couple questions like for example the street maintenance operations and so maybe this is for david i saw that there was a decrease from fiscal year 21 to 22. can you talk about that david especially given that this you know street maintenance was you know continues to be one of our priorities i'm just curious mayor for tim and counselor uh bing cuomo before david jumps in sorry david are you talking about fun 2600 yes that is house bill 479. that is one of the ones that is being moved from the special revenue into the general fund that is why you don't see it anymore because uh yeah yeah now we have not moved if you'll notice um the uh beginning balance we have not moved the beginning balance of 2600 or 2800 which is the environmental gross receipts tax and the reason for that is counselor is that the particular uh house bill 479 went into effect in uh july of 2019 it did not uh taxation and revenue did not change anything until this uh last month march okay and just to let you know um and i'm sure councillor flores and the mayor we're gonna let everybody know um at the finance select committee um we gave them certain options that we could bring as an ordinance um they chose that we bring because it's transparent okay that we bring an ordinance to um to council and still showing that the uh that these funds when they come into the city even though they're going straight into the general fund that we'd still dedicate that cert that particular percentage that we dedicated to street improvements and so we're going to bring that to council as an ordinance i hope to bring that to you in late may as a first read and it will still go into the general fund but we will be tracking it probably through a project number okay that's very good to hear leanne thank you so much and then there was two things that i didn't know what they were can you explain the telstra facility and the police protection fund okay the telstra facility so are you talking about 27 um so the telstra facility 2705 that's the telstra fund so we never we never expense anything out of the telstra fund typically you will see that we do a budget um transfer from the telstra fund which is invested 27.05 we take it out of the telstra and then we put it into 2700 which is the healthcare service that's so silly of me i was literally imagining a facility now like what are you talking about okay no i'm i'm not the name of these funds but uh yeah but i have to live with them so the other one was um what was the other one that you mentioned i'm sorry counselor i'm looking for the number it's the police protection fund 2401 okay so police protection fund and i'm pretty sure and i apologize because i don't really have them but in your budget just let you know in your budget book after the fun this is the old i shouldn't say old the current budget book after the condensed fund summaries there's actually a list of all of the funds and it tells you in there what these funds are where the revenue comes from and what they're used for so we're talking 2401 police protection it says this fund provides for the purchase of police equipment and police expenses associated with advanced law enforcement planning and training the funding source is the law enforcement protection fund administered by the new mexico department of finance and administration local government division and this is actually part of a state statute and it requires these funds to be used to operate the police department my understanding that this fund and i'm sure um chief dominguez is on the line if he wants to add to that this would be very similar to the fire fund as funding as well from the state so the police get some funding and the fire gets funding as well okay no no worries that's a good explanation and i'm sorry you said in the budget book where can i find the these explanations leanne actually in the fy 22 i mean 21 budget book they start on page 305 not in the budget book that i that you recently got for fy 20 i'm talking about this budget bar oh the old one okay so i will go ahead and look at that and then um that's my last question i just wanted to make a comment on can you go to slide 18 please sure thank you leanne um you know i i've been reflecting a lot on sort of this visual representation of what our budget looks like especially when i consider our strategic plan when i consider some of the things that i believe to be some of the biggest challenges facing the city you know to be growing economic insecurity you know a poverty rate that hasn't moved for a really long time recovery from the pandemic um a housing shortage a housing crisis if you will when i consider some of those really serious challenges that put a lot of our residents in very vulnerable positions when i look at this visual representation of the budget i do not feel that it is representative of those challenges and you know i for the police department to have such a disproportionate chunk of the budget to me feels like we need to do some serious reflection on the creation of this budget in terms of um how are we really thinking about public safety rethinking about public safety and what that looks like um for there to be actual prevention of the things police are dealing with we must invest resources elsewhere for there to be a decrease in any sort of property crime we must meet people's needs people must have their needs met and crime will be reduced um for the police department to stop dealing so much with issues like folks experiencing homelessness addiction mental health we must invest resources elsewhere um and so for me i you know this is sort of the second go-around and i haven't seen that change and i will keep advocating for us to seriously consider some of those things and maybe my question is for ifo and um if i'm sorry to put you on the spot but i do want to know and it and i want to hear from my colleagues too like when we think about those serious things those the serious issues facing the city when you think about that what is that one or two things that we are saying this is a big deal this is a serious issue that's facing las cruces and the quality of life of las cruces and then when we look at this budget does it reflect that and you know i so maybe my question ifo is how are you thinking about that how are you thinking about that with your directors in terms of how do we ensure that this is a more equitable process that that we are thinking about the issues in our city and then reflecting that budget to meet those issues thank you mayor mayor and council uh you know first of all let me back up a little bit uh councilman cuomo i think you know i've had this conversation and and i don't know if this is necessarily um something we can really just resolve at a at a budget meeting right i mean it's you're talking about a fundamental shift in how we spend dollars as an organization when i what i can tell you is that the typical this is the typical pie chart or bar bar graph uh throughout the entire country i'm willing to bet just about every city in the country has the same if you looked at it certainly from where i come from when you look at what those costs are going to you know it's all personnel the personnel is the majority as liam mentioned of all our budgets they're all uh over 70 is personnel here some are higher than others in in different cities but essentially that's what you're talking about and so when we talk about cutting you know or moving around we're talking about shifting resources and also personnel so we're looking at uh how many officers how many you know what whatever how many employees in whatever department is necessary and so i think it's a it's a discussion that's maybe even bigger than the budget uh and and how we look at that i think a good step forward is is the mih program that we have budgeted this year and uh i'd like to see how that works and how the return goes uh we know that there's going to be great return uh you know qualitatively but even quantitatively to see how how that affects our overall costs um you know like i said right now you mentioned uh council bencomo you're you know just a call to your colleagues and how they feel and i think it is i think that's where it becomes over my pay grade where where this it becomes a council discussion on how you how you want to carry out policy in the city and then we move forward and carry it out but i will tell you and you know everybody knows uh you know i touch you guys when when there's crime uh you know when there's and we've noticed we've noticed the crime in the city we've noticed the resources that are needed to deal with those issues um and so yeah it's far beyond the budget it's it's more on how we how we approach you know policing and and uh but like i said where i come from and i'm willing to bet any other city this is the typical this is the typical cost uh you have your public safety both fire and police and then you you kind of look at the other services um you know safety first with with your your citizenry but um i don't know if i'm uh becoming this if i'm just dancing around your your uh thank you ifo i appreciate you saying that and i think it is important that i note that these are conversations i have with ifo often naming my frustrations and i just think it's important for me to name my particular feelings about um and frankly my analysis on on this here publicly and i know it's not going to get solved and we're not going to shift any of these radically in a work session but i do think that um you know just here publicly i really do want to you know encourage and push my colleagues to have this conversation that while i agree with you i guarantee you almost every single i agree with you that almost every single city city's budget looks like this to include even the federal budget and there are conversations happening across the country about exactly this about exactly how do we reach how do we rethink public safety in a way that actually meets the needs of our communities and our in our residence and and and i i will keep pushing for us to continue having this conversation publicly so that one day um our budgets are truly representative of the issues that are facing our our city and and representative of meeting the needs of those who is who are most vulnerable so um sorry to put you on the spotty foe but i really am i i but i i just want to name that but i do have these conversations often with eufo and i'm hoping that um we can continue having them as a council publicly see yeah council bitcoin i appreciate you bringing that up i will tell you this much that um if you notice one of the positions and i know um mayor protem has been advocating for it a lot a social worker so this is really the beginning you know and i guess it's it's it's unfair to just remove and i'm you know there's no way i would support that just remove money and just allocate it you know we've got a you know the police officers and and primarily police officers and firefighters too but primarily police officers when they go on a call you you never the ideal is to have a probably a a social worker with them a psychologist with them all in the back seat you know really because you just don't they don't know what you're coming up on to and so you know they're they're asked to deal with so much stuff but in order for us to slowly reduce that and i'm sure they would like that i'm sure they would be able if we could have a whole different department they could deal with this that's great but you know a lot of times when they they're they're on a call you you they have no idea what they're what they're going to encounter and and and we're asking them to do so much of these things that that you know we're slowly working to to eventually uh remove that but i think it's just um you know i know that's a national conversation and some people may have that fallacy that that things like that happen here and i i don't believe that they do yeah sure we can always have improvement everyone can i can the whole city can but you know um i'll be real candid with you a few weeks ago someone asked me hey do you want to have a a protest on asian hate and i go no it's okay we don't have it here i know what's happening back east but we don't have it here we're very fortunate you know and and and i'm not here to to you know bring that up when when we've got our own slice of the pie here where we have where we live and it's great yeah we have challenges like everybody else but we'll deal with them what i'm trying to say is we're working through well we're here and we we hear what the what the public would like but that's that's what and it makes sense though because as i mentioned i think we do expect too much from from police officer we expect too much from teachers you know we expect them they can take a child and just make them into the you know into the perfect person and there's a it takes a lot and it takes a lot of uh different uh people working together so that's all i wanted to say uh and i'm glad that you agree it's not gonna be done overnight and yeah sure continue to advocate for it that's great because with those things that we're working to help you know fortunately we have a expert in mayor pro tem and yourself too i know your background social work but you know to kind of figure out how can we move the needle still keep uh police and fire priority number one because that's really what it's all about when you stop thinking about it if what would you rather have a road that's disintegrated or no police well rather that road is disintegrated you know i'm sorry i just would um what would you rather have or or something else and no fire i mean we need that they are they are that essential and some of that money back in 2001 there was an election that so much of our grt gets put into the police and fire and that's automatic so it may be disproportional because they're one of the few that gets their own funding source the public voted for it overwhelmingly in 2001 i know that i was there i was that's when i got on the city council so anyways i just wanted to put my two cents into it mayor i just yes i i i agree with most of what you said but i do think that you're taking some of what i'm saying and um exaggerating it a bit i never said that these departments were not essential and absolutely necessary but i i don't necessarily those those choices you put in front are a little bit of center choices a disintegrating road or no fire like or police thankfully those are not the choices we're having to make right now those are not they're not the city is not in a place where we're having to make such dire choices and so i'm saying while we have a fairly healthy budget and city we should really consider what meeting needs of our communities look like that are beyond and and really think about rethink what public safety actually looks like but yes that it is not overnight it will not happen overnight i just don't want my words to be turned into something that they weren't okay well i apologize i didn't mean it in that way i'm just trying to explain that we're thanks to much input from from you and may pro tim and those that know this business you know we're able to kind of slowly move the needle and and try to provide those necessary resources to help our police and fire okay good you're good we're done okay so next is uh counselor beta study thank you mayor and thank you dan and david and the rest of the staff for this presentation um obviously i had a set of questions and a way in which to ask them but i'm going to deviate just for a moment um to kind of respond to counselor ben cuomo um and then i will go back on my schedule but i think one of the things that i was looking for um when we saw these types of budgets are kind of completed or well thought out programs that work together because we know that this is a very complex question that we're asking in a complex time and it's going to take a complex solution and so seeing the various items like a an expanded mobile integrated health program unit a crisis unit seeing the social worker he said all those little steps i think are the first start at the same time i think most of us are talking in with ifo i know i have had really in-depth conversations of the history of even how fire did a huge transition after housing codes changed and became emts and how in my personal opinion i feel that policing is going through a similar type of growth and experience um what they're being asked to do now and the types of calls that they receive are very different than what was um done in the past in a lot of ways and it's unsustainable and so how do we grow and kind of move on and what does that look like and just in my opinion that type of stuff looks like investing in um that training it's truly competitive pay that you're getting people that are wanting to be in this type of profession because it is an active service for them and so you're getting high quality people and then we are hopefully going to incentivize those that have specialized training in perhaps even social work or things like that but it's there's a lot of a lot of different ways that it could go and i think there's a lot of conversations to still be had but i am hopeful that this is the start that we're putting things in this year then can start addressing that and why we talk over the upcoming year of looking what that planning looks like and realizing that we still have even um new state bills that are going to impact the way that we need to train or to operate and so we're going to have to really take time to recognize all the the impacts that those changes have been made and perhaps if we ever see federal changes and how we can hopefully be leaders in our community on what i think um that policing is and what that next phase might be like so that's all i'll say on that issue but i'm going to go back um and say thank you uh leanne again one of the items that you kind of touched upon was that for municipalities we talked about how most of it the budget does go for um personnel issues and out of curiosity i was just going to ask on what percentage is usually yeah thank you um that percentage is that average pretty much for most municipalities to have that type of percentage mayor counselor stevie it is it really is actually i i went back to several budgets and i've actually been in this position for three years and we've been between 71 to 73 um and and as we um i mean we do have quite a bit of personnel i think you can actually see in your budget book we put a list of uh of the personnel numbers by departments um i want to say i think it's right after the write in the financials so we do have quite a bit of personnel um i know it's in here i'm sorry but we typically do run that what other cities are actually running i want to say they're probably about the same i'd need to do some research and i can do that maybe look at cities that that are comparable to us i think el paso and albuquerque would be too big but what i might do is go and look at rio rancho who's very similar to us and see what their personnel percentage is running i can check into that and then i can send you that information next this week thank you that's very helpful and with that i also see personnel there's different types of personnel and some are um you know some individuals are supplying a very direct service um to our constituents uh and so that to me also makes a difference um when we have programs um we'll just take um like the the youth specialists uh those that are doing after school programs they're providing a direct service so by adding them we're increasing that service base and so for me that that is even different than we have more administrative and and those types of programs and so i don't mind necessarily seeing the personnel because i know if it's especially if they're the increases are going to that user so we can expand programming and expand our usage i think that's for me that makes it worthwhile [Music] with slide 22 i have to ask because i actually got a constituent asking about this today was about median landscaping and they were talking about i believe the medians on uh loman if that was the same project that was listed there or if that's for a different median landscaping so mayor councillor stevie i'll actually see if i can get david to maybe he might be able to look at that what i can do is go into the council packets remember that we had given to the council months ago um and see what it what it lists in there for the medians unless david do you know offhand thank you i believe that sloman some of the loman medians counselor made the student okay thank you i just wanted to clarify on that one and then my next one is actually for david um and thank you um with this new kind of um way to capture all the the cips and everything and in your opinion are there any projects that you feel are kind of timing themselves out or have just been on the list for a very long time that um you know things have changed uh perhaps the budget might be very different now for that type of project do you see any of that with those that are on there mayor councillor beta stewie david seville for the record that is that is a great point and one of the changes that we made several years ago to the cip was to show those carryover projects as part of that document that lists those projects that get carried over from year to year to year to year that don't ever start so that we identified that to be able to reevaluate and look at the projects that we have on there and say based on how we're moving forward with funding priorities initiatives our strategic business plan elevate las cruces are these gonna be as beneficial to the community you know and why are they on their stagnant so that was one of the big things that were looking as part of the cip to be able to identify and take a look at that and say okay if if this project is not moving forward how else can we utilize the funding to get that benefit out to the community thank you i appreciate that um and i was just gonna ask um with leanne um are there any other legislative changes that were made in this last year that you anticipate us having to just take into consideration for this upcoming budget cycle mayor counselor stevie i'm going to ask mr peeley to help me on this one i want to say that the only one that i was looking at i want to say it was house bill 4 which changed for the police department there might be some concerns and and uh trying to read that particular act i don't know if there were others i know mr peeling meets with our lobbyists maybe he might have some um something to add to that as well but that was one that particular i was looking at i i'm sorry uh counselor basically we repeat your question if they're thank you um evo the the question is um are there any upcoming um legislative changes that were made um that we need to be um considering for this upcoming budget cycle well you know not that i know of and and i know elia mentioned mentioned house bill 4. we we still don't know all the implications of even that bill but from what i understand i don't think there's any direct budgetary implications that we need to now we're expecting a big windfall from the cannabis legislation uh passing so we may have a revenue change hopefully but um no i i'm not seeing any uh any direct impact to the budget okay thank you um and you look forward to that work session with um mr haran as well and mayor councillor stevie also the only other one in uh was recently there was one that was passed on our para which is our retirement and um it increased the percentage for the fire department so we are working with the hr department on that particular one we may be after the new fiscal year be bringing a budget adjustment if you know unless we can get um get those percentages in before we bring the budget to adoption on may 17th so we're looking at that one as well thank you so much and thank you once again um for all the work that you and your team have done with this budget almost everything that i wanted was on but i will i will still also have to advocate for um upgrades with uh some of our parks that are much older um but i also see opportunities you know i talked about perhaps expanding broadband to gomez park but that is something when we look at perhaps funding that comes from the american rescue plan if we can see where we can tie in some of these priorities to any type of funding that we get there so we can still accommodate and thank you mayor i couldn't find rio rancho but i did find new york city and chicago at 90 for personnel and and we still uh are the second largest city in the state at 104 000 and change and rio rancho at 101 000 change so there you go uh let's see who's next airport thank you thank you mayor i'm gonna try my videos so let me know if i come in and out um appreciate leanne david and others my colleagues um and and i too want to respond a little bit about the pie chart um sort of understanding where our you know where most of the budget comes from and the previous that was it slide 18 where our money goes if you will um i i mean i appreciate this but within each of these departments there's so many projects and services and programs and you know those of us that are a little more seasoned at this know what they are um and maybe not even even more even specifically so this is sort of uh when i look at this i think does our budget reflect our values it's hard to just determine out of this right uh at first glance you know we see some some areas safety being um one of the ones two of the areas that are most um that have most of the budget or a significant part of the budget but when i think about housing for instance and it being put under economic development all the grants that we receive related to the programming and kind of to conservatives this duvey's point related to direct service like our youth um our people that are working with youth that that direct service this doesn't really get i think to the crux of that and so i i'm i'm really going to challenge staff about looking at a different way that we can and i'm thinking about a pie chart that would be more reflective of right where where um our money goes to and those sort of social determinants of health right those important place those important pieces housing food um behavioral health you know those kinds of because i think it's going to say a bit of a different a different picture and it'll definitely um inform the public people who are really not familiar with our budgeting and our budgeting process and so i i like i like for us to take a stab at kind of looking at that um and and i appreciate counselor ben gomo's remarks i think those are very important ones i think we really need to look at it but i i suspect as people indicated that you know most municipalities and commissions do that do it in this way and so i i like to challenge us in in really re-examining re just looking at a different way to report um the way that the funding is and giving and just remembering that there's folks that are are not a part of this process so um i i think of all the victim you know advocacy that happens in you know within the police um some dv programs there's some great great prom like we mentioned in fire right the integrated health um when you look at it you don't get to see any of that in there unless you're very intricately involved you know in the city and understand this so um leanne i'm not sure if if if there's a way that that we can re-examine the way that that looks i'd really love to see us identify kind of in in those those special areas those areas that reflect health um and in all it's in all levels um what it would be interesting to see and then where the grants fall and who gets more grants and what kind of grants and and and whatnot especially that we've been very clear as as council what our priorities are moving forward um so that all this all i'll say about that again i appreciate the the work um that's already been done and um as far as um i just want to go back to um the technology piece i appreciate having scott and talking about you know um sort of the the projects i guess that are that are happening um and and they're a bit foreign to me so you mentioned the transportation one specifically and one and so i i i'm really interested in hearing a little further it's one of the things that i think is going to be really important to move us into you know a different level of service and and so um the the clever devices and sort of the gps mapping the web um you know those being able to to see like on a moment's notice and then as using that as a super you know it's a supervisory tool right in terms of of you know are we on time and how long are things at but when i saw that i thought it is this an opportunity to kind of change what's happening currently and um be able so for folks like for instance me can i get can i just via an app can i can i purchase a ticket or a monthly ticket from my phone and be able to then show um you know the drivers that i that you know i and or run it through my phone through a a code of sorts um is is that what this is about it's that what that is entailed or is it just for the identified pieces that you pointed out scott mayor mayor protem i'm going to defer to mike bartholomew who i believe is on the call this is his projects as far as i know this is uh just a replacement at least the clever devices part is just a replacement for their existing system i'm not sure what additional features this upgrade would have so if mike can jump in uh yes yes uh mayor pro tem uh this microphone roadrunner transit the clever device's replacement is to update the uh software that we have that's about seven years old now oops uh that's about seven years old now and uh to get a little bit more accurate and how we uh for the geo-location of the buses it will it also is going to allow us to uh do a lot of changes like if we do a route change on our own we could move bus stops a little bit we can read we could move routes around a little bit with this without having to pay for an expensive uh kind of a redo by the company because we did a minor change to a route this will allow us to do minor changes and then once we get that uh upgrade installed and it our data gets more accurate then the second part of this the second phase of this would be to add automatic enunciation system to the buses so it basically announces where the bus stops far automatically over the speaker system on the buses the the dialer ride one the trapeze one is is would be more for the just the dial right customers to it could allow them to schedule rides it would uh have a callback feature to let them know that they're for ride confirmation or text back rather uh context back information about the ride is like 15 minutes away get ready kind of a thing so that's what those two programs are for neither one of those would be like for a pass purchase on a on a app type program for the fixed route okay thank you can you hear me thank you mr pratham yeah i appreciate i appreciate that um i think these are all great changes uh moving forward something i think that you've talked about at different at different times throughout the years and that i think will be really helpful so appreciative of the of your explanation um and then um i i wanted to talk about um you know the funding and the funding that's going to be allocated specifically um i i appreciate all that these are a lot of of things that i've i've advocated for over over the years i think it's going to be important some very important steps in dealing with getting to the root causes of why we've had such an increase in rep and reports and calls and violence and maltreatment of children um and and and so i i do think that that um it's been a slow process i wish we can i wish we could change overnight but i know that that's not that's not um possible um and so i i wanted to to really talk a little bit about um the funding um that should be coming from the cip the the state in relation to the viramura dam and um i i really appreciate counselor vasquez's points about the way by which to look at it right it's in a more underserved area um you think about health and social determinants of health um you think about the these you know that already this route is being used already and um i'm wondering if we can come back with a resolution council vasquez that supports a green park um and and and i i like mayor's suggestion about coming um back for a work session but in this balance when you think about the 250 000 and if i remember correctly it's for design right to to to to to study if you will and and then to basically capture a design or develop some sort of design if you will but um and and i i'm not sure that it will take the you know the whole 250 000 but i i mean there's a lot of trash that's accumulated there it's not set up for as a as a park if you will but people use it um it it it i i'm i'm worried that that if we don't do something quickly and whether we're waiting for this money or not that you know that we could be liable for some things that go on and um there um and and i'd i'd really like to see um and maybe maybe um the design will tell us a little more but i'd really want to to to talk about putting forth some additional funding um and not wait not wait a whole fiscal year um and i'm not sure when um david and or um leanne do you know when that money might arrive to us from the legislative sector mayor council gonda i'll check with amy because she takes care of the legislative funding um i know that we are filling out some questionnaires for the recent funding it it all it all is response to when they go out the state goes out for bonding so i will double check on that uh if she has like a date when we're actually going to be bringing that to council and i'll let you know um the other thing about the vmware dam um and that's why i brought up this slide for the hold harmless grt uh counselor is because i mean there is still some unreserved balance um we're going to be bringing a resolution to adopt the budget on may 17th so as i mentioned earlier david and i both mentioned you know this is a time where council the mayor and the council can let us know that you want to increase something or decrease something and so i just wanted to show you i mean we still have 2.51 in this particular fund uh that we can still you know use some of this and the other thing too is is and i i i didn't check to see but i don't know if maybe and i don't want to put her on the spot but i'd like maybe for sonia to see if she can maybe touch because we did touch base with her before we did when we did the council priorities especially for chandler and for uh gallagher so i don't know if maybe sonia might want to jump in and have some thoughts on the villamora dam so thank you leanne good afternoon mayor members of council sonia delgado director parks and recreation um being more of them we take the funding for it well we need the funding for it there's a lot of work to do at vmware dam they'll need to redo madrid so we have to work very closely with public works that will probably have to come first before we start thinking about utilizing as a park we do understand that there are individuals out there there's individuals all over our city in places that may or may not be city property um and we run into that often we get a lot of different phone calls about things like that but when it comes to being more damn we still have a lot of work to do on the front end we can get it done that can happen but we'll definitely need a funding source and i can't speak to what it would cost to redo madrid and realign that if need be um we'll also need a parking lot so there's lots and lots of things to do with it it's not quite shovel ready um whereas chandler tank we've done a lot of work there already it's going to be a little bit easier to get some of those items taken care of but a little bit quicker and then so i and i do like the fact that counselor sorry had made mention uh prioritizing the piff i had made mention of that prior that would be important so that you can understand what projects you want to go first because we do get a lot of firsts come our way and they they all can't go first so we're looking forward to that and that will be great um so we can take those um into consideration and get these projects prioritized and and get them done yeah sonya i really appreciate that and and um i i i i'm thinking you know we have this balance still event there's still some money available why can't we pull the 250 now to start working on the design you know well cleaning up um because it's it's it's bad i i i walk um not so much in the area but through it i don't do that i've done it maybe once or twice but but have walked up in that area and it it's it's it it's not becoming and we need to be taking care of it um and and i'm not suggesting that you all are on out there um you know trying to clean up and whatnot but i would really like to see um us a start on this and and it starts with just cleaning up the area and then having you know this does that they could then come in and do this design um and i can't i don't see how we when we do receive the funding if it's not something that's going to be given to us you know within the next six months that that we start it and then that we come back and and replenish the fun when we receive it i i just it just me i feel that it's something that needs to happen and so do you have an idea when where the madrid um the madrid madrid will be worked on uh mayor memorial tim no i do not um i would have to defer that to david sedillo but before i do um when it comes to cleaning since it hasn't been designated a park as of yet um it won't be turned over to us until the park the best i can do at the moment is we can try and put together a volunteer group that can go out there and help pick up trash and then once that facility becomes ours we'll be also looking to add additional team members to our team to make sure we can take care of that because that is a very large parcel blend and even with trails as you know people utilize our trails they leave trash and there's a lot of work that has to go into it so there's a like i said there's a lot of pieces we need to put in place we certainly can get that done with the help with public works and working closely with him and we will continue to do so but in the meantime i will see if we can get keep lost cruise beautiful and maybe get a group out there to do a cleanup an alternative thank you sonia i appreciate that and let me know because there's a few people that live in my district that have have voiced some interest in the cleanups um and so it was it was the you know at the beginning of covet so i think people are a little fearful but it feels like you know we're turning a corner and people are more interested in doing that you had some people um participate in your keep las cruces beautiful con event not too long ago so um i'd love to see that and again i'm recommending that come sir vasquez i'd be happy to work with you to put forth a resolution to name that a city park um a green space and and then looking forward to when the work session comes but again i think a lot of this needs to be sooner rather than later and so i'm advocating for you know money to be put forth and just generally thinking about this this area um now um and um then i guess david do you have some idea of when that me that madrid area will be worked on mayor may uh mayor gandala before dave uh before i let david start i wanted to let you know i did talk to amy just now um she said that um she's waiting on dfa to get us the agreement it's actually over at the new mexico environment department they're putting together a new agreement for the 250 i mean yeah the 250 000 for the the vmware dam so hopefully we'll be bringing that to council in about three months she said it's for design and then limited trail amenities which includes lights and parking and etcetera so i'll turn it over to david now thank you leanne uh mayor mayor pro tem gandra the madrid project we do have that slated to start we do have the funding for it that is in the queue to start the design because there will be a little bit of a realignment and that we're also waiting on nmdot to finish their study corridor of i 25 from lowmen to to angler so we're looking at that to make sure that we have that in place as well too so we do have funding we are starting we are starting on that design here in the fall and then as we move forward we can get that as well uh just to note this project also it did have uh 2021 legislative funding in the amount of 400 000 that we're waiting to also accept into the budget as well i appreciate a time frame david there's a few um people that have asked about that area concerned about the streets that are that are that rub up against madrid and so um and i'll be i'll be crafting an email here shortly over to you about um one of the streets in particular but the the caller did have concerns about madrid and i said it's in the queue but i don't have a time frame so um let you know let me let me figure on that so anyhow i appreciate the information i'm really excited about the different priorities um i i i know that it's a lot of work and very very difficult to put into place and listen to all our exciting um you know plans and and such but um i am i appreciate each and every one of you so thanks mayor thank you counselor sword thank you mr mayor um now i just need to comment on some of the stuff that's been discussed so far um i i sympathize with counselor bencomo the graph that shows our uh where our money goes is uh not a good image um i'm all for a discussion on how we can make our police force a little more efficient maybe but on the other hand i've had so many requests for people that said why don't we have some police house here that out here in the this place or that place it could be anywhere in the city to uh watch traffic on the speeders and all the violations that you have um and i noticed on the um police department for your history the personnel uh numbers keep going up and down and it's just an unsettling thing um but yeah i'm all for a discussion on how we can make our police department better and also provide more uh funding for our social programs uh the affordable housing et cetera et cetera et cetera and um i i'm all with it um [Music] then on on the uh biamora um why don't we just go ahead and take uh three four five hundred thousand dollars of that uh on reserve balance and just do it let's get it over with uh let's not discuss it any longer let's just do it um so whatever it takes now the problem with the the street if you're going to wait for the street to get done before you do the park it's not going to be done very fast we're talking years and so uh maybe we should start on something in the park that doesn't uh is going isn't going to be affected by the street um so that's what i said and i agree with uh mayor pro tem it is somewhat of an eyesore there as i drive by it i see it too and i have all kinds of visions and how nice it could look a little water here and there uh probably take out some mesquite trees or shrubs there so it doesn't catch all of the trash goes below and through uh different things like that and so um yeah that's that's i think we should what we should be doing here i agree with you all thank you mayor and good job leanne and david and the whole staff on getting this budget going here thank you counselor i'll just give you a word of caution so reason why i think we need to wait until the street is done i think we can i think we can have a work session we can start the planning but if you go and and work on the park and then and do some things to it and then turns out that when when rose has to go and do some things and then maybe he has to tear it up after you just got done doing something yeah you didn't hear me mayor in there oh no i didn't have but i'm just saying but now it's going to be affected the street at all well well it might because what if it needs some parking what if it needs a parking lot in there what does it need you know what if people want to be able to park there and then go so there's a big huge space there that work some work could be done on not one side of madrid well and then we've got to figure out how we're going to continue to pay for it i think a workstation yeah i'm thinking of road runner norse and how many years it took for that street to be built i i fear was gonna have the similar thing with madrid road running north that was uh a lot of that was because it was owned by developers and that wasn't our yeah it was it was the city that's the city built north road runner well well that little portion but the other part that you're the connection uh we did it because it was owned by some developers yeah and it took three years to get it done well yeah but that's that's the thing they there was no reason to do it i mean that's them they could control however they want to do it but anyways that's another story uh thank you for your comments and uh counselor vasquez thank you mayor um thank you all um as we go into i know a kind of a late afternoon session here but budget is really important and so i appreciate all the discussion that's been had here one of the things that we get to control um as representatives of the people of our districts that really makes a difference and so i really appreciate this discussion um you know i keep going back and forth between the discussion around public safety and what councilman cuomo brought up in terms of the priorities of our community and our values and how that reflects and how we spend our money and i think this is a good example um talking about a local park in an area that is a historic area that has a lot of folks who you know aren't going to get new uh infrastructure new investment for a long time there's no developers that are putting in anything uh in that area it's all going to be up to the city to improve this part of town and so i think of parks honestly as an anti-poverty anti-uh pro-public safety effort um when we can reinvest in these areas of town that oftentimes do suffer from um those heightened levels of crime or property crime or or or violence or or um any any number of those things the built environment has a big big impact on the psyche of a people um of a neighborhood of a community right and so if you think that you live in a neighborhood not worthy of having a park or you think your city doesn't care your your mentality as a resident of that neighborhood also leads to you to think that hey maybe i'm not as valuable as other people in other parts of the city and that often is that road that leads us to think about you know where we're investing and why why we even need like police in in the first place in these areas i've had many discussions with our police department as i have with with mayor and mayor pro tem and others about then like the need to reinvest in these neighborhoods as a tool to help prevent crime right it's not just about enforcement it's not just about showing up and taking a report and then coming back later and following up on it which is where a lot of our resources go to uh go toward right um it's about preventing this in the first place and so that i i really agree with i think when we say we don't have the money for a park in a neighborhood like this that is though we're saying that that's part of our values right of of of what we want to invest in and so this is a good example i think of of we could have all the excuses in the world to say we can't do it including let's wait till we it's the right time um yeah i like i said either let's put up a fence around this whole thing and not let people in it if that's what we're saying that this is not a park the people can't come there you know let's put up with fence then and say that you can't come in because um i don't think we can have it both ways we can't keep it a pseudo park for the meantime uh and be okay with that uh and not willing to make an investment in it and i do appreciate so much my fellow counselors uh for um uh for wanting to perhaps see how we can tweak this budget to make that happen i think there's ways i mean you look at all the trails outside of the city baylor canyon and soledad canyon and the sierra vista trail those don't have amenities those don't have big parking lots those are trails in the that are you know managed by the bureau of land management and they're they're pretty much in a natural environment that are that are that work just fine for people so i think we can do something there um uh and then just to further um what i'll say too on this discussion around uh just the future of our budget and the discussions around public safety and how much we invest in our police department you know i think uh nothing should ever be off the table or non-negotiable you know i i think that's those are part of the hard conversations that that as a community um and as a country we are having uh and where real change starts in and starting to tweak um where where we invest in as a community and so um nothing should be off the table nothing should be non-negotiable i think rethinking what public safety looks like and we're doing it i'm not saying we're not i think the the investment in the mobile um health crisis uh center is amazing and i think if it works then let's double the budget for that next year and let's triple it the year after that right so um i i do appreciate that we are innovating in some ways um and that we have room to do more and we don't have to wait for the state or the federal government to act and tell us what is good policing and what is not i think you know we can listen to our community and um and also do things that that will change uh how we invest and so you know i'll just say that much i think all options should always be on the table for that but um with that said uh mayor thank you i appreciate it i really do hope that from this work session that we can come to some resolution in terms of an initial investment and via more dam to put a sign up put a few lines put a few lights up let people who are enjoying that park now you know actually think that the city cares and invest in a park there and so i think there's some very low cost things we can do while we work on the redevelopment of that street um uh and and i think that'd be fine because as we mentioned it is a huge it's a huge property i mean it's a huge opportunity that where the city will never get land like that in that part of the city again so thank you mate i appreciate it so before i get to efo um i'm going to go off of what you said that all what did you say all things are on the table all uh yeah just you know yeah yeah okay let me let me ask you this and and via mora it's got on both sides right but primarily more on the bad directions i guess on the north end is the larger side i think i'm not sure which side is bigger i think maybe what i was going to propose something to think about and this is where the work session is earlier you saw i think you did i think you were in the work session maybe you weren't when when the proposed loman area right if we did on one side and did something similar not only would that allow for more uh mixed income housing the money that was generated off that could be dedicated solely for the the park across the street and talk about now you have a funding source and you've got money to do whatever you want to do and really make it a a really premier park not skimping not doing this i mean now you're talking and dedicated just like how the tid the money that was dedicated just for the downtown area that money dedicated for across the street something to think about this is something okay uh ifo you have a comment thank you mayor in in council just a couple of comments if i can make a couple suggestions on the vmware of damp first and then uh just some comments uh maybe concluding from the staff perspective with this budget uh [Music] so just to give you a little background with the as we've gone through the council priorities that just let you know when it comes to council priorities we we don't i try not to to rank them myself right it really comes off of our discussions with you of course we have our cip and a ranking system but when it comes to council priorities it's really we go through this and see how we can get it get it done and and i i will tell you you know after considering everything i you know the decision comes to me to say okay where do we where do we fill the dollars that we do have and specifically tomorrow damn my thought process was uh and with others here that uh if we had a funding source identified check and we'll move on to the next and that's really the way i looked at it i i remember uh councillor vasquez and or maybe if it was with mayor pro tem or both in our tour uh going by the via more than and being very impressed with the possibilities there as well and so my thought uh i can tell you my thought process was okay we have a track record of legislative funding and so let's just keep on that track and we there's your funding source and we can you know allocate to some where we we don't have that track record so that's really all it all it is i i think from staff perspective uh you know we can find a way to to make it work especially if we have another funding source like you mentioned mayor to add to it but a suggestion i have is maybe we do move forward you have the 250 let's go on the design we can try and pull some funds out to allocate now or look at the design we could put the 250 there now look at the design and come back uh mid-year to see what we want to move on next but we know we do have some money we we have a little bit money to pull if that's you know always as a as a city manager you're counting right you're you're listening to the council and you're you're counting each each opinion that comes up and i i feel like this is a this is a one of those priorities that that we we should consider based on everyone's comments so i i'm glad to do that i'm glad to go back with staff take a look at what we can come up with uh put that in there i don't think that'll be a problem like you said you you see where some of that fund balance will propose to pull it from and we have some fun balance there so we can do that and have further discussion there and then just a couple of other things uh the direction we gave from from the city manager's office from my team to the staff didn't give a much much direction besides if you had extra ftes that you were asking for this year the default setting is to not include those now we we did look at it from a case by case basis as you see there are some you have a social worker there but there were certain the default was that we didn't want to grow our staff we didn't want to grow our budget in that way if we didn't have to we had a lot of vacant we have a lot of vacancies that we wanted to look at we wanted to reclassify first and so those are some of the parameters we gave our department heads i think they've done a great job of coming back with some solutions and and one just for the sake of being being efficient with our budget but also uh the other thing that we haven't talked about that i know i've talked about this individually with counselors throughout the past months we are looking at our premiums and uh you know we're going to go out to bid here pretty soon and the hope is that we can find a solution better solution uh first of the year next year so to be mid year in the mid mid fiscal year and so that's something where i've told staff like we you know let's look at where we are from a personnel standpoint because this is the part that we're going that's going to increase or decrease based on what we we get back from our premiums and that's the goal is we want to move it we got a study recently back from our consultants that shows how far off we are from the rest of the state the rest of the public sector uh and and that's something we really we really are taking a look at and want to want to bring back to to the council at some point when we have numbers uh you know or else it would be a part of the budget but we we need to make sure we have those numbers there so just summing up the the budget and some of the parameters we've given our staff not much besides those those things that we wanted to focus on uh i think our department heads have done a a great job of really honing in on the budget uh especially leanne and her team and david appreciate all that they've done to uh to get us here this thus far they're great uh what they do and then just just lastly in in light of the discussion we've had you know about just the budget makeup you know with public safety one thing people don't recognize uh you know our largest asset and liability of just about any municipality is our roads that that's it they're hundreds of millions of dollars they're worth that much and a lot of times you know my colleagues my other city man when we go to different cities we do judge each other by the way their roads are maintained and because it is it is the biggest part of your budget as far as your assets uh in the city and so when we talk about what our our budget reflects does it reflect our values it's a little difficult when we're talking about our operating budget because our operating budget a lot of times ninety percent of it is fixed they're fixed costs and they reflect necessities and um and a lot of times when we're talking about improving an area it's really counterintuitive to talk about decreasing money right decreasing funding a lot of times when we improve a certain area or department uh increasing the budget actually helps not decreasing the budget and so when i talk when i think about public safety i think everything's on the table but i also i also believe um you know when you look at our salaries when you look at uh our officers for thousands uh we we aren't high and and so when we're thinking about improving and we're thinking about getting the best and asking our officers to do more than what they were previously asked to do or retain a high level of competency and customer service a solution may be that we we increase because we need to retain those officers and we need to get training and we need to get a whole different type of officer uh into a whole different level and so that's something i just wanted to throw out and i think that's the same with it goes through sort of the theme throughout the entire budget um a lot of times when we're looking at improving things it's you know money talks not necessarily pulling money that that will improve but but with that uh mayor and council i i appreciate the opportunity i know this is we'll have other times to present the budget in its final form and for your approval but i appreciate the feedback in the comments we are all taking notes here and so especially with the vmware dam and and some of the things that were mentioned we'll we'll go back with staff take a look at it and see if we can we can route some more money to those to those uh projects thank you baron council thank you uh ifo we forget to come before i get to council florida's just yeah and i know you all know this but um you know the budget is you know for the most part if we pass it as is we need to make sure the departments know what they've got to operate their their departments but that doesn't mean that we can't come back later and come after some of this unreserved balance to be used to augment things that the council wants to do okay all right um council florida excuse me excuse me thank you mayor thank you leanne and david and sonia and my colleagues were the excellent questions that they and concerns that they posed i i agree with everything everybody said um and i you know i i think when when you see a a bar uh graph that shows that our police department's paid the most it's or that personnel takes a huge chunk of our budget it's i know when i first learned about how much money goes for our personnel i was horrified i thought why do we spend so much money on personnel well just the way it is and and um it was explained to me and very well and i appreciate your words uh ifo i i agree with uh with councillor gandara's comment about our budget um reflecting our values and um and you know the the thing that's that's always been something that i've worked on um you know since the 70s you know late 60s early 70s is just you know justice and um and in my different roles is in different capacities uh we met i think i shared this with you etho that um when i was president of the mexican-american bar association we met with devel patrick we had the uh he was head of the civil rights division um in the ag's office here you know the u.s attorney's office we met with him um because of the police brutality in los angeles and the problems we were having there are not getting anywhere with the attorney the city attorney's office or any other level of enforcement and um and we did bring some changes to lapd and you know fast forward what 30 40 50 years whatever it's been now um there are a lot of problems that still exist so and and really and being also in the education field um you know the the answer and the question is how do we eliminate all of these problems well it's slow it's very slow um because because racism and ignorance has become so institutionalized that and the only way we can eliminate that is education and of course identifying the contributing factors such as aces and that's why cassandra ganda is one of my heroes um my mother being the other one um where you know we're not taking care of our children and they're not we are creating a society um the forgotten the forgotten ones so it's it's important to um work and i for example you know we have a jpa with las loses community schools and cassandra and tessa and i sit on that board and um and and i you know and we can see that there are a lot of changes coming about in our school district for our children and community schools is the answer and the question is how do the question of course is how do we how do we get out of this this cycle that i've been a precipitate witness to for most of my life well more than two-thirds of my life and and um and yes a lot of ugly things have happened in our country and um and and and the only way that we can really uh remedy that is through education and i think our community schools especially here in las cruces i mean i i attended a big conference uh that was sponsored by the nea on community schools and and it was wonderful to see how those communities flourish and because the children are being taken care of and as councilor vasquez said you know there's a park there and and uh and as councillor um aveda stewie has said uh a city is judged by its roads and its parks um and i and i and and those are areas that are so fundamental to uh you know how we get around and how we care for our community but um but more fundamental than that is focusing on our children and and how they need us and on so many levels and the community schools and i i would like to see um i know this is an opera operating uh budget and you said evo in terms of counselor or mayor pro tem gandara saying that we like to see our values reflected in the budget and because i then i thought that's right i mean where you know where does it fit in where we have our fantastic animal uh service center you know which is a jpa with the county and um and other other services that we have in the city and and other where does that money come from leanne or mr pealey uh ifo how is that reflected in our this budget and you know i'm just wondering about that and then um yeah but i think that um in areas where this budget does uh go into our parks and whatnot and i and that's right it's true there's money there i think the mayor has said that uh mayor putin has said that and you too epo where there is money that um that can be used and i think that starting with the with a with the design with that 250 000 would be amora we should get a design or whatever you know whatever it's called planning to see if um to see where we can begin at least uh making uh some roadway and and into that and then um and then you know a lot of these almost like you know um one one of my frustrations is you know i want it done i want it done now type of thing um where we have things planned out and um and and then the only ones that can really see any have seen you know the slow uh wheels of of what's it called uh progress turn are the mayor and and and gil um and they can sit here and say yeah we did this back in 2000 whenever and um and so and some of us i think um you know for whatever reasons would like well for the very exigent exigent reason that um we have a community that is is hasn't has been uh there's been a failure of government to really look out for it and i i think it's our duty our moral obligation to um to do as much as we can so i i wholeheartedly support moving on via mora dam and if money is there let's do it and and get our seat in the meantime yeah let's get uh keep las vegas beautiful out there and um but i but we really have to emphasize too and make sure that our money is going to our children anything that's related to children the parks the you know this whatever our aquatic center but um but leanna or whoever uh who how where does that money go when we have a jpa how do we contribute money to the county for certain programs or how is it where's that money reflected if it's not in the operating budget so mayor councillor flores as if you'll mention um as i mentioned earlier in the presentation let me see if i can get slide um this is a better one okay so um it is coming out of the general fund and as i mentioned earlier um our jpa's because we do have a you know we do have a joint powers agreement with them uh those um that used to be treated as a transfer so every um so every month accounting would just transfer maybe 1 12 to those funds they do have a fund the i'll use animal service center as an example their budget is budgeted in the sevens so we would just move money from general fund 1000 to their particular fun which i want to say is 74 gosh i used to have i don't have them all memorized and i apologize but they're in the sevens this year they are going to be treated as an expense but it's no different um we're just giving them money our our share that um actually the animal service center board approved uh and i think you're on that board so uh we're we're giving them one point i want to say 1.725 million and so every year we will we will just put it in there as an expense on us the city to them as revenue so we're it's like a transfer but we're just we're showing it as an expense but we're supporting them by that much okay yeah well thank you so much uh leanne you know i you know i mean i i think it'd be wonderful if if somehow this was reflected somehow for the public to see i think that you know it's like um you know it's it's like showing doing not just doing not just showing but definitely um sharing with our with our community with our residents of the city uh what the city does um to uh to make it a better world for everybody and um and it because really the overall thing is quality of life and i'm not talking about the department i'm talking about the city and then that's what our comprehensive plan tries to achieve you know and building a city where people are going to be talking to each other being a community instead of being isolated in little houses or something or buildings that are built like 10 feet tall or something that have an effect on people's psyche and that is something that um that uh councilor vasquez brought up about the psyches you know the effect that just looking at something and it's like um really with all the problems that we have and they are problems you know you have to call it as you see them uh with all our um trauma childhood trauma and poverty and all that i mean the worst thing a kid can feel is that if he or she is being kicked around and being ignored so it'd be great if we could release this and have an ex and then you know it'd be wonderful you know maybe take up two pages in the uh sun news or somewhere to show um to and to explain where this where their tax dollars are going and um and how they're being spent and with an emphasis i would suggest or recommend strongly recommend that um that we emphasize it for the well-being of our child our children thank you leanne thank you mr mayor thank you everybody all right well thank you and uh appreciate it uh everyone our presenters leanne and david and tony and all of you and the great questions you asked and so um i guess uh we'll go ahead and just move forward with this and then bring it back and like i said if later we need to tap into some of that other monies and we'll just start doing that we'll have those work sessions that we talked about scheduled and just kind of move forward so real quick just let you let you and council know that our next step will be david and i will be bringing on may 17th um the re the resolution for the budget sir so that's the next step for us may 17th okay sounds good what about the press release i would think uh counselor that that our reporters are probably going to have something in the next day or two talking about this budget this is a big budget it's a huge budget and it's wonderful that we have money yeah very good okay well if there's nothing further um entertain a motion to adjourn so moved second okay motion made by counselor flotus second by counselor beta stevie christine this is on the motion to adjourn the work session um counselor beta stevie yes counselor vasquez yes councillor benkoma yes counselor sorek yes counselor flotus yes councillor gandara yes mayor yes okay so we're adjourned at 6 31 pm enjoy the rest of the evening of course i'll stick around christine to do the agenda studying meeting and thank you we'll talk to you all later thank you okay mayor whenever you're ready are you ready okay so this the this is the agenda setting meeting for our may 3rd 2021 city council meeting number one consent one consent two non-consent two non-consent three consent three consents for non-consent for non-consent five non-consent five non-consent six consent six consent seven non-consent seven non-consent eight non-consent eight non-consents and nine non-consent consents thank you thanks happy too you