um maybe unemployment or other finance you know financial distress because of the pandemic i absolutely think it's probably because of the pandemic still we're still seeing um a lot of a lot of overflow from the pandemic and in regards to that and and other issues as well okay thank you know and and i think the only other observation i had and i'm curious you mentioned kind of seeing where our numbers are for um calls that were that were getting received from the communities and and um may may looked like it was still low i think we'll you know hopefully the trend will still continue to be that way um but uh you know i'm kind of i'm looking forward to seeing if we can keep the numbers down or hopefully the numbers will will be kept down and we don't return back to the 60 and 70 or above calls that that we saw in um prior to the pandemic yeah and those are reported i'm trying to give a comparison on the reported calls even um in comparison to what we pick up because i think it's important to see what's reported out there as well because if we're going in and fixing these animals and our reported numbers are dropping then that's saying something is working you know there's these animals aren't as much out on the street as well as what we're doing you know absolutely okay that's all i had if is there any uh any additional questions for mary lou okay i'm not seeing any hands so thank you mary lou appreciate your presentation thank you all right we're uh on to agenda item 4b shelter statistics and activities mr thacker thank you sir so you have before you the ascv directors report for the month of what will this be may can you see my screen sir yes sir all right now this year we're gonna or this month let's just say we're gonna do something a little different because was such an odd year and you can see it right here in our animal count we threw in 2019 to get a comparison of some actual numbers and also to see you can you can see how close we're getting to that quote unquote norm that we were at before covid so it's alarming how fast that number is is going to be hitting that 2019 number of the 685 so a year ago we were at 238 animals we were able to keep up with care for the animals that were here we had great health uh 2021 we're at 560 which means that we have twice as many um animals and uh things aren't suffering we're keeping up with the medical care and we're keeping up with sterilization but it's caused us a lot more stress as far as our infrastructure on the employees we were able to operate a lower number of employees before because we wanted to keep it down because of covid our employee numbers but now we're scrambling to get those numbers back up and higher but room is the overall issue honestly right now room as far as the number of animals we are not going to go back to what we were doing in 2019 and before and that was basically in in the best way possible we were warehousing animals that is animals and wire crates along the sides in the hallways we had two sometimes three large dogs per kennel and it was all in the spirit it was well meaning of of keeping animals alive and and i hope that we can do something that that will continue to keep us those low numbers and help us out you'll see as we go through here how we're beginning to climb up so our intake in between 2019 20 and 21 you can see that um i'm not that far behind where we're a little ways but 870 897 in 2019 and 713 in 2021 so it's slowly increasing uh dogs you know continue to be that high number and so do cats honestly if you look at cats there's not much of a change between 2019 and 2021. it just looks like about was that 49 animals or so for pianos or so so now this is a new slide that we added in what this one is is showing the number of animals that are coming in or that have gone out to rescues these are not animals that just came in this month these are animals that are has been in our facility anywhere from you know way back years and years all the way to just came in the other day so this essentially is giving you information just like the coalition for people and pets used to give you as you can see our bigger partners that we have colorado puppy rescue cruise crusaders halo animal rescue new hope rescue are kind of our big players and who are sending things out enchanted past animal rescue to 27 cats which is amazing uh for us action program for animals they are such a huge help their local rescue and uh their kitten effort is literally keeping us float right now for what they're doing they're taking newborn uh and uh bottle feeders and helping us up there so kudos to our rescues 100 or 282 animals total gone out 179 dogs 100 cats we would not be able to save lives like we are without their help and we appreciate every single one of them so i'm the higher number uh we had seven um looking at these though these are all recent adoptions or also surrenders for instance with the cats we had uh they had it for six days and the landlord doesn't approve or doesn't allow we had one another cat they had it for four days and it just scratched a lot they said so they brought the animal back it's crazy the cat's scratch was amazing [Music] uh behavior for the dogs we have a dog it was an adoption they had it for two days um they said that a bit a puppy oh a doctor thinks puppy was too hyper for their their own dog let's see there was one brought back for a parvo watch after they had it for two days uh the other they had it for three days and there was post operation issues so they just brought them back they didn't want to deal with that issues the another one they had for five days owner was allergic so what i'm getting at is we had another one for one day and um another one they could not afford basic care they weren't the original owner they got it from from a family member and they just didn't want it anymore period so what i'm getting at is these these are not animals that you know were rescued or adopted during the pandemic from last year during that time these were all recent within the last 30 days or so actually within the last like two or three weeks for that are outcome statistics um we kept 2019 out of it and just compared to 2020 and 21. not for any specific reason just having space we had as you see 2021 we had 11.5 percent of the adoptions uh so that's fantastic uh as you see the higher number keep in mind that we really want to focus on this percentage versus just the raw number because it looks really good but there was a totally different number of animals that were in the center at that time and coming in we ended with euthanasia at 11 so less than the 14 percent and we had 87 percent a live release rate again euthanasia reasons uh feral cats continue to be the number one reason and behavior aggressive animal dogs [Music] and then the next one down from there is medical general for dogs and cats this was an interesting slide to me this number jumped up quite a bit we had in may 838 people visit the center this is still using the appointment schedules still using you know call in see what animal you want to visit with uh so we're excited to see that increase and i believe it's just a continuation of summer months and people wanting to get out we had 136 adoption appointments and 59 of those were considered finalized adoption or 59 percent were considered finalized adoptions so a little over half of the appointments that are being made are ending in adoptions our website views that jump up for 41 correlates really well with our increase in our visitors so we're glad to see that [Music] facebook views also jumped up and that's our presentation this is bale and emma they're our pets of the week for the animal service center and i can answer any questions that you have okay any questions i see commissioner allen's uh we'll do commissioner allen's then we'll come to vice chair bates duvey and then councilor florida's go ahead commissioner ellens [Music] you're on you sir commissioner commissioner we can't hear you at the moment you can if you press and hold the space bar down while you talk there we go okay channel 7 did a short piece of the animal service center on tuesday and one of the things that you talked about was the fact that adoptions were way down compared to other years in the 600s as compared to the eight or nine hundreds could you comment further on that yeah i can so year to date so january 1st to the date that i did that on tuesday we had 653 adoptions whereas in 2020 and 2019 we were in 900's uh for the adoptions for that same time period and that was alarming we are we're continuing to push as we're doing a special right now for father's day week for 25 adoptions when we're pushing also on facebook for that i really think people um are just getting tired of the pandemic stuff and um i don't know but yeah adoptions are down were we able to offset that by shipping out to other states and to the rescues yeah if you saw our rescue numbers were a little bit percentage-wise they were higher than what they were last last month or last year the also the other good news is we're back out at farmer's market we're doing those and as soon as our staffing increases we'll be able to get back out and do our other offset areas of off-site adoption areas too okay thank you commissioner ellens okay advice chair wait stevie thank you chair and thank you um a little bit to piggyback off of uh what commissioner ellen said i know that we did some price changes recently um do you feel like that has been a factor to and of these lower um adoption levels um because i know we said we wanted to look at that and just see what um what that effect was we thought the same thing and for the last three months we've been tracking um what the price does of what people are adopting and surprisingly enough there's more of the unsterilized adoption amount of that 150 than any others and so people are paying the 150 to get the pet and then we sterilize it here at the center before it leaves um and that was that was alarming that was huge and i can send the numbers to the board because yeah we do track it every single month but i do not believe that our change and adoptions are are that changed because we we also did that i believe in 2020 or 2020 it was in 2020 that we changed that price okay and then my second question is as we um are starting to uh return back to um no restrictions at all um for the state and those types of levels i know that we've been operating with a kind of call ahead um to view animals um are you planning on changing that um anytime soon and do we think that that might if with the ability of just walk-ins if that will help at all um for people to come and view the animals and potential adoptions this has been a pretty hot topic conversation in our manager meetings we there's kind of two voices right now in there one is that we should open back up and have people who want to come in and walk through but then the other side and it's a very good point is that look how healthy our herd our animal population is right now and that's because we don't have people walking through and sticking their hands and going from kennel to kennel also another one is is that when people come and if there is an appointment open an appointment time open we accept them we say okay what animal is it you want to see um we're work so right now the thought is that when we go on july 6 is going to be the first day that we're open back up it's the first day after the fourth holiday then we are going to have our doors open which means people can come right in they can talk with us they can work on licensing they can do all these things but we are still going to be doing right now the appointments for the adoptions we just think that it makes the most sense however with that said if somebody like i said comes in and says i'd like to look at your adoptable animals and they say okay we have an appointment time available then we'll have them right in for that but right now yes we're sticking with appointments okay things continue to fall we'll make changes okay and thank you you touched upon my third question was going to be about that of licensing registration all that type of those would be fully available for the public for walk-in once the sick started yes ma'am okay thank you and thank you mr chair thank you mr vice chair hey councillor flores uh thank you um mr chair and thank you colleagues for your questions to uh clint so clint um as far as the appointments go you did report at one point that by doing adoption but excuse me by having appointments adoptions became more efficient more predictable as a result of people just coming walking through and not necessarily adopting am i correct in that memory or is my memory lacking no you are correct we're seeing that that's the reason instead of people just wanting to come in and look and see what we have we only have interested parties wanting to adopt a specific animal making an appointment so it just feels like it's much more streamlined than serving individuals who may not want to partake right and versus serving individuals that have a specific animal in mind they want to see and are you collecting data as to the number of um returns you know people that just say no we can't do this adoption after all and the correlation between um people walking in and people you know that right did you collect any do you have any data to compare the the the number of adoptions after an appointment with as opposed to walk-ins well we have years and years worth the data of of doing it the old way pretty cool bit of people just walking in doing adoptions and then we have um since we changed in 2020 with that appointment base we have that information as well so we can do some comparisons for that and it would be interesting to see it's kind of skewed because before remember we were counting everybody who came into the center so if a family of four came in uh that would be four people versus now we only allow two people so that i don't i don't know how we would accurately measure that that would be really skewed yeah i yeah i get it yeah it would be skewed um so you don't have any data's to the success rate um yeah are skewed therefore you really can't see uh what uh something just popped up um so yeah i'm just trying to because i i think that um i i that the information you shared is that um everything is a lot better with it it's things flow a lot better when you don't have uh people just showing up uh serendipitous um you know just willy-nilly and uh some of them um i i think that when someone makes an appointment if i may just offer an opinion here or perspective or whatever a comment is that i think that when someone makes a conscious decision to make an appointment to see to see a pet that person is already predisposed to to look at an animal and consider it as a new family member as opposed to uh someone who just uh decides on you know just kind of very again very asleep but just very just decides on the spur of the moment that maybe it'd be a nice thing to do to just go over there and then and then it adopts a pet um and then it returns a pet i i would i was wondering clint then if there's any way of collecting data between um you know between people that are if you can any in any way oh man let me see um somehow gather data that shows the potential um keepers and the those who are just doing this just on the spur of the moment you know just thoughtlessly walking in and taking a pet and then deciding well that pat you know that cat scratches so what a normal idea can't scratch or that it's had surgery it knows it's had surgery it's going to need post-surgery but then it returns a pet anyway so i'm just wondering if there's any way of really filtering people that would to because i think the return the return is pretty high right i think as as we go and if we have a high month of of adoptions in a month that possibility of returns uh increases um because the more you have out the more possibility of coming back but yeah that seven is a high number compared to past months where we've been at four five three things like that so clint um do you have a questionnaire for potential adopt doors um a questionnaire is to to to see get any insight as to whether they know exactly what they're getting into the commitment level it requires to have a new family member to have um you know the wherewithal i mean i understand kobe having an effect on people saying i just can't afford a dog or you know a pet anymore um but you know that aside yes ma'am we do have a questionnaire kind of like an adoption questionnaire that we have more importantly we have staff to go over those questions with them like a bit of a process it's a conversation that we have with them instead of just marking down on a paper yes yes yes um so each individual has a conversation with the front staff representative and um so verbally they're told all those things as well and getting the paper oh thank you clint i was just you know i just want to i think it's really hard on on on our little critters that are adopted and then just returned and i you know and and it must be horrible and staff too you know from the the uh you know from the paperwork to the emotional side of having pets returned um after a day or so right i mean there are some that just take them home and come right back so just wondering if there's any way any mechanism any kind of survey i don't know interview to really decide um to weigh um you know the adoption process thank you very much clint thank you your staff as well for all the work you do thank you thank you ma'am thank you councillor flores uh clint i just uh wanted to to make a note and say thank you i know um seeing the uh data that of how many of the animals end up going to the rescues and all the rescues that participate in everything that you've done over the past month i think has been it's it's eye-opening to see the data and i appreciate uh vice chairman stevie pushing to to see that data um 282 animals and we're still at capacity i think is it's alarming but it also shows how much the community is helping so i appreciate your efforts i appreciate uh the efforts of of all the rescues that you all are coordinating with and just wanted to make a comment about that and also thank you i'm looking you know you've commented a couple times about the off-site uh events at the farmers market so i'm glad to see that we're that we're returning to those and hopefully um as as as you've seen you've seen the foot traffic increase at the service center but hopefully as you continue to get out into the community and people see that that will only continue to help uh that increase with with getting visibility to the animals visibility to what you all do within the organization so thank you uh commissioner allen i see your hand race yeah glenn you and i talked about this but a couple of weeks ago there was a piece in the sun news about six animals that would have to be put down unless they were adopted or somehow transferred and say since we're on clc tv i think the public would like to know that those six animals were either sent to a rescue or were transferred out of states and they were not put down and i'm sorry there was no follow-up article on that in the newspaper yeah so it was actually eight animals eight dogs that we had here at the center they all had behavior issues um anything from just jumping to um food issues you know when they're fed with the account so a vast spread issues there they did they all went out either adopted recipe or fostered we did have one that was returned that was was an issue enough that we did euthanize that one that was returned uh but other than that yeah this the seven were able to get out and um be successful so we're happy about that thank you thank you commissioner ellens there any other questions for mr thacker okay thank you appreciate it clint thank you all right we're now on to i guess the second half of uh what is shown as for b which is our coalition for pets and people recognition uh gene are you there yes good morning good morning and just for the board i i know uh you know we received a letter from jean that indicated that she was going to be stepping away from her role with cfpp um and so with discussions we wanted to provide or at least give our appreciation to gene for all that she's done i know that since i joined the board in 2019 uh she's been a a a fixture in our agendas in our meetings providing updates uh for all the rescues that participate in the coalition for pets and people uh it's i know we we just talked about the numbers that clint presented in uh and the role that the rescues play and so one thing i know is that uh this is a it's a labor of love everything that you do with the coalition for pets and people and i wanted to say thank you we want to say thank you on behalf of the uh animal service center the messiah valley board of directors and so we've got this we will be presenting you with this award that you see on the screen um and if i can i'd like to take a moment to read uh the certificate here so it says here the animal service center of the messiah valley board of directors would like to thank gene gilbert for her outstanding service to the center and for the care and commitment she has shown for the welfare of animals gene guarded all animals including the homeless malnourished and young making a unique difference to their quality of life and it's presented on june 24th 2021 so gene thank you so much for all that you've done uh for coalition of pets and people thank you for bringing a message to the board of directors for the amc ascmv all this time and uh we wish you all the best thank you very very much i feel so honored and just for clarification purposes i do want to say that i'm not stepping away from a coalition i still remain in a leadership role with the coalition along with rick kahn but i am stepping away or retiring from the role of uh presenting the powerpoint uh which which i was titling the community animal welfare report so i and i was doing that on a monthly basis and probably i want to say for about four years and i do want to say that i've really appreciated the opportunity to be able to share the stats and the highlights and the information of the important uh life-saving programs of so many of the amazing amazing animal welfare groups that are doing such important work here in las cruces and and they are helping our animal services center bringing us closer and closer to our no kill community goals so thank you so much for the opportunity and i hope that you as a board will consider you know some kind of an alternative option i know i've suggested uh perhaps inviting uh different reps of organizations such as we had tricia quillen at last month's meeting and that way uh you'll get perhaps a little more in-depth because i know uh you're interested in their uh stats and their services and how that how everything inter intersects so well thank you again i'm still very honored and i appreciate it very much mr helens jane is there any likelihood that there'll be a successor designated to do what you've been doing i don't think so i don't think so but maybe it's something you could inquire about i guess but i'm not aware of anyone at this time so now i know that since the gloves have been taken off with regard to the coven are the rescues now doing um public uh events for instance in petborn which i passed by a lot they consistently entertain i think canine yes i think that some of the groups are starting back now with um activities gradually okay thank you thank you commissioner allen's mayor protegra thank you mr chair um gene thank you so much for your leadership and your participation it was much um appreciated but not only your participation but just your care and consideration related to the animals um your thoughtful questions and i wish you well and i'm sure i'll see you around so thank you thank you thank you mayor pro tem councilor flotus thank you gene so much for your work and uh also for the care and love that you've extended to to our animal population and your presentations to the board um thank you so much and i think you i agree with or why should i say i think that your idea i think your idea of having a spotlight on all of the um all of the volunteer organizations that work with animals would be great like maybe mr um chair and fellow uh board members if um is a an agency at a time and it would be called agency spotlight and uh an agency would be report specifically on what they do and then they wouldn't be taxed with um and not that i'm saying that gene gilbert said she was taxed but it seemed to me an incredible job to get all the organizations and then do the reports on them so um that connection that would be my my suggestion to to you mr or fellow agent or excuse me for subsequent um agendas again thank you so much uh jeanne and i thank you yvonne very much and of course i will continue to do committee work as you know in fact i've been involved with yvonne on a committee so i will continue doing that certainly thank you thank you mr chair thank you councillor flores and and i'll make a note real quick before we move to by surveillance stewie that we do have under uh discussion items uh exploring community engagement which i had hoped we would you know be able to discuss this a little further so um counselor bait to stewie thank you chair and thank you jean so much for all the work that you've done um you know in all my meetings um from in all the committees it's oftentimes you don't get to hear uh the real happy stories or success stories that you do with the presentations you get and i just think of all the the animal stories that you've brought forth with us with the different rescues and it becomes a highlight i think of my month to get that good information and and to really see that and i really just thank you for all the work that you put into and we look forward to working with you just in a different capacity and so thank you and thank you chair thank you madame thank you uh mr thacker i just wanted to see the same gene and tell you thank you very much for all that you've done uh for the coalition for people and pets here on the board without you there would have been nobody to speak for those rescues and the rescues are such an integral part of what we are doing here at the center so thank you for being that bridge and bring that information to the board i really appreciate it thank you clint you're amazing to work with and i look forward to working with you in the future of course in a different capacity thank you very much thank you gene i appreciate uh again thank you for all that that you do you've done for um the community and with the asmv so hopefully we'll get you that uh the certificate soon so thank you very much all right thanks again bye-bye okay we're uh now on to agenda item 4c one which is uh or committee reports so the first will be the uh finance committee mr enriquez yes uh thank you mr chairman sanchez uh there was a finance committee meeting that took place on june 17th i wasn't able to attend but uh interim finance director leanne mooch was the chair of that meeting and she informed me that that there was no concerns or issues with finance so with that i will turn it over to josh southwood that will give the finance report thank you good morning mr chair members of the board my name is josh saffel and on behalf of the finance department of the city of las cruces i would like to present the unaudited financials as of may 31st 2021 uh hopefully everyone can see my screen yes sir thank you uh so starting off with our statement of net positions um we see that in the general fund we had cash of eighty eight thousand seven hundred and fifty three dollars receivable of eighty nine thousand four hundred and one dollars which gave us total assets of nine hundred seventy eight thousand one hundred and fifty four dollars we had liabilities of sixty four thousand three hundred and one dollars revenue collected in advance of fifty five thousand five hundred and one dollars which left us with an unassigned fund balance in the general fund of eight hundred fifty eight thousand three hundred and fifty two dollars in the capital projects fund we had total assets of twenty nine thousand seven hundred and ninety eight dollars and a restricted fund balance of twenty nine thousand seven hundred and ninety eight dollars we also in our capital assets fund had capital assets which are net of the accumulated depreciation in the amount of 185 278 dollars and an unassigned fund balance of 185 278 dollars moving on to our change in net position our total revenue for the period was three million five thousand four hundred and nine dollars and our total expenditures were two million three hundred and eighteen thousand eight hundred 805 dollars so in the general fund that left us with a positive uh net change of 686 thousand six hundred and four dollars for the capital projects fund of course we're trying to spin down fund balance so there was no revenue but we did have total expenditures for the period year to date of 1 767 and in the capital assets fund we recognized depreciation expense of 38 711 dollars looking at our budget to actual the total revenue of three million five thousand four hundred and nine dollars was eighty six point four percent of the budget while our total expenditures of two million three hundred and eighteen thousand was sixty five point two percent uh this being the eleventh month that meant our budget parameter was ninety one point six seven percent so again we see that our total revenue is now below that a little bit and our total expenditures is actually quite a bit below that looking at our revenues versus expenditures uh monthly grant we'll see that primarily our revenues have pretty much leveled off they're now just about the same uh each month but we continue to see variations in the expenditures um seven out of the past 11 months the expenditures have actually been under our revenue which is good and uh for a few months they were above but that is to be expected looking at uh percentage of total expenditures our total expenditures again were 2 million three hundred and eighteen thousand eight hundred and five of that seventy three percent was uh for personnel expenses uh fifteen percent was for services six percent was for supplies two percent repairs and maintenance two percent insurance and one percent in other and one percent in capital um that will conclude the finance report are there any questions okay i i don't see any hands up but i i don't know my my computer is having issues i don't know if you all can still hear me or we can okay i'm gonna and i i just i just lost my screen so um i'm gonna continue on if if like i said i can't see the screen at the moment to see if there's any questions is there if you don't mind speaking up really quickly um if there's any questions chair this is vice chair of a studio it doesn't look like there's any questions or hands up [Music] thank you vice chair uh mr stewie okay think of that mr saffle appreciate the update [Music] we can't hear you there we go okay thank you um okay we're moving on to the executive committee uh we met uh myself misha thacker and vicersuvi met on june 9th uh we the only thing i had noted uh was we discussed uh possible trying to identify opportunities for community engagement which is on the agenda um today we're discussed also some of the maintenance issues that i know that have been that they've been working through trying to get some fix and and within the facility and then just in general the facility capacity uh and then discussions around the the practices we do both in the county and the city for aco and trying to see whether opportunities here is that that we can try to minimize or at least hopefully prevent the the issues of overcrowding that we've seen or or going over capacity so um but that was really it uh that i had noted um i don't know madam vice chair or mr thacker if there was anything else that you wanted to add or maybe i missed in my notes none for me sir thank you okay and for me thank you okay are there any questions on the executive committee okay seeing none we'll move on to uh the facilities uh committee mayor pro tem yes thank you i actually found my notes from june 3rd um clint is always good to meet and discuss and some of the issues at that point there was some issues i understand with the air conditioners in the kennels certain kennels i had here sa-1sb there there was um opportunity to reach out to the city they sent some you know the appropriate staff over there was a bit of of non-communication about the issue i think um as we were discussing that i'd reached out to um our our city management team and they've addressed that with facilities and i believe it has been addressed and corrected clint please correct me if i'm wrong on the issue with the air everything's looking good i think we still have it like rotates yeah for some reason it goes from canal kennel right now we have a totally different kennel that is a little muggy and we're working we've already put a that just happened yesterday we put a request in for them to come so we'll hopefully see them today okay good good and so of course that gives me pause specifically because of the amount of money that we put forth for the hvac system it's a pretty new system and so i'm sure it's still under warranty um i think one of the bigger issues is is communication right with facilities and addressing those issues um timely and i think that we have now a better process as it relates to this particular item and anything related to facilities um i believe that um our facilities manager is meeting um once a month with clint and we'll continue to do that and i think that will be just um so much more helpful than um you know um kind of a reactionary um way of handling things and so i i expect really good things from this meeting um and just coordinating and collaborating and communicating effectively about the issues surrounding the facility in itself we talked about um the prep work that was started at the news center since then we've had the um the groundbreaking and i hope that everybody had a chance to see that it was um many of us a few of us were in person but it was virtually and highly being highlighted through the city website really excited i've seen some pictures on facebook that they've done some significant work clearing out the ground and um things i don't know clint if you have some additional input that you'd like to add here uh you basically covered it they're just right now they're scalping the ground and clearing that for the vegetation away i love what they're doing with the water trucks they bring the water trucks in to keep the dust down and then they you know they scalp the ground and i think they're going to be starting to relocate some lines here pretty quick and moving dirt so we're excited for that i think what we're going to do is a weekly picture and on facebook so they can see that progress going that's a really good idea thank you for doing that and then of course we talked about vacancies and where we had and know with that um i i didn't get a lot of of specifics um around that um clint i don't know if you want to add where you're at with the veterinarian um some of the other volunteer coordinators those things um the the grant writer i know those were all still sort of up in the air when we talked last yes the grant writer position has been offered to an individual so pending a negative drug result drug testing result they'll be starting here soon and onboarding so we'll wait for that before we give a name or anything out but that's looking really good and then we have interviews for all of our animal caregivers are today and tomorrow and some on monday we have our veterinarian assistant a surgical assistant position that's open and applicants are applying for that our office assistants i believe are going to be doing interviews next week so our volunteer coordinator interviews next week our rescue coordinator again interviews next week so it's slowly we're moving through the processes but we're getting there so hopefully we'll have we'll be up and fully going in july did you mention anything about the veterinarian oh yes the veterinarian it's still uh open recruitment on the veterinarian position we have not gotten anybody in that role no uh as of yet our next task what we're gonna do is i'm working with dr hadden and we're gonna get a brochure made working with our marketing department with wilson binkley and we really like to get something that is more than just a job description right we wanted the good points about las cruces and get it out to a lot of these areas maybe send send the information to the local veterinarians in case they know of anybody we're going to be sending it out we got a list of a lot of the vet schools that are in the southwest areas that you know somebody that doesn't have to move quite as far i mean everything's on the table you know we're looking into maybe a possible signing bonus we're looking into the ways or lowering the requirements for the number of years experience i mean just everything's on there we really want to get the position filled [Music] thank you clan so much i'm wondering if through the work at with the executive committee if we can talk about a fellowship program maybe um paying for an individual's um you know last year of education or offering a stipend of sorts with the promise of coming and working for you know several months something like that and so i'm i'm looking to chair sanchez and vice chair abate this duvet to have maybe those conversations or maybe we have a work session very specifically about what that might look like i think those are probably some helpful things to do to at least look at yeah if the if the police department can give money to recruiters that are coming on or to people signing on i'm sure we can figure out a similar program we can do it too because right because i'm being serious the groundwork is already there uh to do that kind of thing so yeah we can piggyback on something like that okay um and we also um spoke of just the number of large animals and animals in general at in the in the in the center um we we talked a lot about um strays and just the number of folks right that are that are bringing animals in um owner surrenders we've had some discussion about what that might look like related to how the city should get on board and providing some funding with spade and neuter trap neuter release programs and so i'm asking um you know very specifically to um mr enriquez to call the task force um meeting um together and the task force group together to really have discussion about about this because it's really uh affecting our numbers and more specifically um i think um our our animal codes specifically for the city acos are are very limited i think um there's quite a few vacancies and and so um we talked a lot about the tools that they have or not have the vehicles that they have or that or are um in terms of not having um you know air and those things and so for me there's a lot that needs to be discussed related to that and i i will commit to having a more thorough conversation with our city manager but these are all all um connected and something that i think that the city should really um take a look at but we're also in the conversations earlier about um working in coordination and collaboration with the county related to the spade and neuter program and looking for a veterinarian it i i really want to have some courageous conversations about what that looks like i think there's some rumor out there related to the county going on their own and the city going on their own rather than then putting our our funding together um especially after the the new center is is built so i'd really like to address this openly transparently and see how we can more rather coordinate and collaborate um our efforts moving moving forward and that's all that i have in relation to the facilities meeting thank you mayor i see uh councilor flores has her hand up thank you mr chair and and thank you um mayor pro tem gandala um as far as uh holding meetings uh for transparency sake um a pre-formation task force committee um hazmat on two occasions perhaps three occasions and um and that was at the uh request of jerry willis who was a member who is a member of the task force um the animal task force committee that focused on the um rewriting of the city ordinance and um we met because um the city ordinance regarding tnr which will only affect the city's uh enforcement um you know the it's a city it's a regulation that will depend on city enforcement so we have met and um we've met three times actually um at the first meeting was jerry wheelers athena huckabee gene gilbert and i uh the second meeting was um the the four the four of us again and um no athena he could be huckabee who's not this at the second one uh but we did meet with mr enriquez and um we met at city hall mr enriquez uh suggested that we uh you know may have these discussions uh perhaps at a later time but we nonetheless uh met again at the east mesa safety complex um i don't have the specific dates but these were like two or three week increments and the reason we're meeting is because we are anticipating the very same questions you've raised uh mayor for tim gandala a big concern and i have uh raised it with our city manager is that um we don't have the sufficient acos to to really implement because we're looking at implementation i i know that once the the ordinance passes and i think we had a lot of support um there was only one council dissenting on the passage of the resolution which is which which is really the precursor to the language of the ordinance um but we um have to think about the impact it's going to have on the city um once it does and be prepared at the time that this that the ordinance does go into effect and um and it's quite clear gino jimenez made it very clear that the aco as it is there's vacancies there and i know that um the vacancy issues um have come up in open city council meetings um that the three of us who are on city council uh tesla beta stevie cassandra gandala and i are very well aware of um where we have many many vacancies and they haven't been filled so i'm really glad that uh leanne de mouche is in on this meeting um because we um we have to fill vacancies especially now with especially well especially in many areas but this is going to make or break our tnr um if we don't have the acos we are not filled to capacity now we're going to need more as a result of the passage of this or this prospective ordinance or the prospective passing of this uh post um drafted ordinance and um we also need cars you know we need the the uh excuse me the the trucks we need um we're gonna need air conditioning in those trucks we're gonna need all sorts of stuff so um and this is a conversation i've already had with our city manager uh and i think that uh perhaps uh we will individually or the three of us on the city council uh will definitely approach um city manager um and of course we're also uh and i think independent of that but i think some people see this as a thing that goes hand in hand with the dissolution of the joint powers agreement um i don't see it as one being dependent on the other because the city ordinance is in fact going to only apply to city residents so or city boundaries so i just wanted to share that in the event or just to in any way preclude any uh perception of uh lack of transparency um and to make it clear that it's been done because it's a city ordinance not an ordinance affecting the county thank you very much mr chair [Music] thank you councillor flores okay are there any other questions on the for the facilities report okay thank you mayor pro tem gandara appreciate the updates um we're on to agenda item number five discussion items uh 5a is exploring community engagement uh and as i alluded to earlier with we're looking i guess at the moment without or at least without a direct successor to miss gilbert for the coalition for pets and people uh presentations um we there was some discussion and uh around at least that i had i had broached on was how do we as a board have the engagement of the community in particular the rescues uh that we coordinate with and it was twofold one with was like i said with miss gilbert moving on uh but number two is that i've been receiving uh some feedback from the rescues uh i guess concerns around the practices of what we're doing or questions around what what the asmv is is currently doing and i know mr thacker has also received the same phone calls um but i don't know that that the rescues have been providing that message or reaching out to the board as a whole and so i think this was one of the things that we were looking at was how do we engage those our community partners better and one of this one of the ideas that i was considering or at least had um was whether we should look at making another another committee for the ascmv board along with our current three would we could we possibly have a community engagement board where we would actually have or maybe rotate uh different uh rescues on so that way we're getting more feedback of what they're seeing issues they're seeing and ways that the asmv could possibly partner with them to make you know something more streamlined within the community uh going forward and so i i don't have anything in particular other than that idea i don't know what other board members i just wanted to have an open discussion to see if there were any thoughts or suggestions um along those lines whether it be a committee uh for community engagement or is there another way that we could better engage our partners with uh within the community vice chair beat the stupid i see your hand up yes thank you and apologies i have a cold for the first time in a year so um i'm pretty muffled but um one of the one of the reasons why i do like this type of idea is not only are we gonna get just community engagement find out what's going on with the rescues and give everybody an equal um i would say platform to participate but the the one area that i've been looking for for this is to understand um is with when it comes to policy and different types of things that we see so if we're going to implement stuff just like um with the cat uh trap meter and release we'll be able to get their input on those types of things and look to see what we're working with so i think it might be an opportunity for us to have um those policy discussions with them too and kind of look at the logistics of what they see on their end and so that we're engaging them in very meaningful ways and it might be a little bit easier to set up if we have a standing committee um and we can bring up these ideas to get their feedback on a more regular basis thank you thank you vice chair uh mayor protegra thank you chair sanchez um for bringing this forward and i see community engagement and kind of in two ways one obviously is internally or shall i say how you defined it initially with our community partners um i i like the idea but i wanna i'm hesitating a little bit because i feel like we have this task force that does have county involvement to include many of the animal rescue groups and so i i feel like and we were meeting regularly and although it started as really to address some of the engagement issues it moved into with the idea of of working on um the code the changes to our to our ordinance and so i i i don't feel like i want duplicate the effort i think there is an existing structure that's already um already there um i i think i what has happened is again it started as a city sort of task force but i think it could very easily be moved into um you know what you're what you're addressing the second part in this two-prong approach in my head is when i hear community engagement i also hear about engaging the community in active ways to become you know to assist us to in terms of policy development but also this uh arena that i'm i'm i'm i think we're all um having trouble with which is the responsibility that you know the pet ownership right and and what that means i i think that a lot of our work you know we're always i feel many ways reactionary and and we skirt around this issue of irresponsible pet owners and when i when i hear community engagement i hear i i i can't help but to feel like this is a component that really has to has to be addressed um and lastly i'll say that i'd really love to hear from the advocacy groups um because i think this is what i think initially you had in mind was sort of uh coordinating and collaborating this group when there's already a group that should be meeting and addressing these issues i i think honestly when you know about groups and the way they they form and norm and storm and all that is you know we hear sometimes that there isn't um there's great difficulty bringing everybody to the table and we also hear that there's relational issues right about about um you know with each other and lots of competition there's this whole scarcity mentality and and so i i don't mean to be hyper critical but what i do think i think it's very indicative of our system as a whole that that's what we see and each of our you know like the city related to um you know animal services um and and i think we need to work together this might be a good way to bring it bring it bring together but i'm very interested in hearing the from the advocacy world what they think about this because i think the only way to be successful is to bring these partners together and really address the issues that have have courageous conversations with each other and and really get to the bottom of how we um improve community engagement with the idea the caveat of of um responsible pet ownership thank you chair thank you mayor pro tem and i appreciate your input because um especially you know i guess bringing in what i was you're absolutely right i think my initial thought was how do we bring in our community partners um but then you know the the point you bring up about how do we engage the public so that we can start maybe pushing the initiative around pet ownership i think is absolutely paramount um especially for the mission of the ascmv so that um you know we can make sure that we get pet pets in in you know with owners um that are that are responsible we're not going to be seeing them back as as we saw earlier for for the cat that scratches um so i i appreciate that feedback um and i'm curious if you don't mind uh with around the task force like you were saying because i can understand if that's or if there's something that already exists and how we can you know engage you know bring them into the fold or at least be able to have that group that can provide uh some feedback i think the one thing that i had seen is just i my initial thought was if we had it as a committee so to speak would we get more engagement or at least more direct input um from from the rescues and so i i don't i'm not tied to i'll put this out there i'm not tied to any any um idea as a whole i just want to make sure that we can try to you know whatever whatever the the board feels or and i think as you mentioned if there's absolutely a better way to to to go about this i am for it so um i see vice chair bait the stewie you have your hand up yeah thank you chair and thank you mayor potem for those comments i think my question was very similar to uh commissioner sanchez's where um just seeing if this and this is where i don't have the historical knowledge but if this task force if there's um that open communication and dialogue going in and everybody all the in theory all the rescues would have equal access to that task force to be able to give input um because if it can be if they have that kind of relationship then i think that's great to uh utilize an already existing tool um the only thought of doing something or at least calling it new is giving everybody a fresh clean start and so that we have that really great um those conversations everybody's at the table from the beginning um and then we can work together so like i said i i don't mind either way um as long as we're progressing forward with getting input from from the rescues from um you know in the community as well but it's just a thought is has there been so much history in some of these areas that are we able to move forward um and that's something that i don't have those answers to yeah thanks chair i think it's been i'm sorry mr chair if i may absolutely i think it's been a venue to discuss issues and and sometimes they haven't been easy issues sometimes you know as we explored the changes to the ordinance it was a way that we were able and sometimes those meetings are very widely not not sometimes most times widely attended and i don't know that it has been all of the of the groups um represented but it was an open forum anybody could come of course um um we would have to follow the open meetings act and not violate right um um quorum and such but i i think it it it was a way to address issues um very openly in a respectful manner and i felt like we got a lot accomplished it has has it taken us a long time to get to the point absolutely but it's a venue we had and i guess i i i'm i think it's a great idea but i don't feel that it's the board's responsibility to corral um all our agencies right in one place to help it will i i just don't i think we have a lot of issues and and and to address for the center's sake right and is this a subset of of the some of the concerns i maybe i i don't know but i i like i just feel that that venue exists i'm not married to one idea either but i thought um that venue was a good way to seek input and we had staff um assistance we took minutes um and and i i think it was just a great way to come together and and the group you know um it was very fluid right you know some people wouldn't come up there was issues that you know based on the agenda they would participate and they would drop off so i i i just think it's a an idea it doesn't like um chair sanchez i'm not married to the idea but i think it's already established thank you thank you councillor flores thank you i'm glad you saw my hand i i think we're talking about two things here one is the uh tnr um tnr task force um and the um there's the the one that the the ideas that came forth on a lot of things were the animal uh task force then there was the animal ordinance task force there was sort of one in the same um but the uh implementation of the uh city ordinance is uh just focused on that it's not focused on um yeah it should be great if we had all sorts of organizations uh participating in fact at the last meeting gene gilbert there was a woman who was there who was absolutely wonderful in her input whose name i can't recall um the meeting we had at the east mesa safety complex but it's more about you know that the issues we touched on was education and you know just educating the public about the tnr program um that that was the focus so um but as uh mayor pro tem gandala indicated um there is a greater task force of the um animal animal uh just the animal task force and uh that that drew i say minimally 20 people at each meeting and various people you know like if one person didn't show up from one organization would be another so i mean we built up a big room at city hall so and and and it was very very interesting to see that that you know the many organizations we do have so we do have that but i i think i if i heard mayor pertemp correctly i believe she said she didn't see it as a function of the um of this board you know our board is uh really i mean our directive is to uh you know by law by our jpa is to direct we're the board that directs the annual service center and um that task force wasn't necessarily doing that i mean that wasn't the function so i just wanted to share that and to clarify the the the two um and that the tnr uh pre-formation task force um is focused entirely and totally on implementation of the ordinance city ordinance thank you mr chair thank you thank you councillor florida so i think at least i appreciate um the the discussion on this and i think um we'll have to figure out kind of what what maybe the way we move forward i know as miss gilbert had mentioned earlier you know one option could be that we still continue with the cfpp at least for now um and maybe invite a member of the of the cfpp to present to us i think like we had during the last meeting with uh miss quillin um updating that or you know we can continue to have discussion or at least try to find maybe the best venue if we want to try to change um that up but i i think the the concerns um i've i've written them down and i think um you know they're valid and i just want to make sure they said i think um the one thing that i want to try to encourage or at least try to figure out is um for those members of the cfpp or the rescues that they're actively giving us information or at least reaching out to the board as well as mr mr thacker because i know mr thacker is always um you know easily the point of contact um but unless they reach out to us or at least or if mr thacker kind of you know convey some of the concerns which he oftentimes does um we don't understand maybe some of the things that that the concerns of the community may be seeing so um i've taken note of it i appreciate the input and at least for now uh like i said we'll figure um out how to how to move forward but at least if we do anything i'll make sure that we have um the board approval or before we create any major changes here um so there's no if there's no other items or at least input on on this item i'd like to have one other discussion item which was 5b which is the future of ascmv board meetings the the issue i know we've discussed we were discussing about meeting in july back at city council chambers um unfortunately uh it sounds like at least what mr enriquez had uh noted or sent me a note on is that the uh municipal court is having issues with their air conditioning in in their building and so um the city had allow is going to be allowing that the court to be utilizing city council chambers uh for their hearings so that leaves us um trying to figure out where we can hold our meetings if we want to meet in person or we continue to meet via zoom i know there's a couple of um so let me let me put put this out there i know that as there's been uh concern around what happens with the health order and uh the attorney general that you know that has allowed us to meet via the zoom venue because of the pandemic um but once the if the governor allows the emergency health order to expire will that cause an issue if we're not meeting in person um versus over zoom so that was one issue the other one one one suggestion was that we could meet at the county um but right now according to um the the um our calendar the planning and zoning commission for the county meets on uh the same thursday as we do uh for the um for the ascmv board meeting and it's also at 9 00 a.m so i i guess i'd like to at least figure out and ask the board what would would we prefer to continue in this zoom format or do we want to try to find a time where we could meet at say the county um which would change the time and or possibly the date of our meetings at least temporarily um until we can we can meet back at the city council chambers uh councilor flores uh yes thank you thank you mr sanchez uh chair sanchez um so um muti court at least as far as i saw i mean i saw it with my own eyes i is actually meeting um on in room two um on the second floor and uh rooms b and c open up so um i don't understand why um or is mr uh enriquez are you here eric um hi hi eric hi i saw munich on our second floor and they're all set up in there so they're going to be moving to chambers exactly well that's correct uh mr chair and uh councilor flores yes uh the the original agreement was to allow munich to come over and use the chambers uh they have been using the second floor there will be some scheduling of the chambers as well i'd have to double check on that and see if we can we can lock in this meeting that's an option uh the other thing that it did with municipal court over at city hall took up the space where we're going to have other meetings veteran advisory board meetings other community meetings so that's why we're kind of limiting the space and it was a suggestion to see if maybe we could use accounting but i can uh surely uh double check with muni courts if they're not going to use the chambers and we can go back to as planned originally depending on what the board says about in-person meetings thank you just thank you eric mr so so it's up in the air thank you thank you mr chair thank you mr uh councillor floyd i apologize for that um gino i see your hand up yes sir thank you mr chairman um i know that i'm only weighing in for my presentation um when we were doing our presentation in council chambers before covet there was an issue with my presentation from the computer at the podium it being that the map because it's protected by the clc network i wasn't able to present that map at that computer i can do it here from my my lap my desktop because it's on that wet a network and therefore it's inaccessible unaccessible to outside uh threats um being able to get in and hack the whole entire clc system if we move it back to chambers um i will put in a work order to see if it can help me to just do that part of the presentation however i know that if we move it to uh commissioned the county commission chambers i won't be able to present my mapping there so that's just me i'm one person one small cloud in this just know that from my desktop that i can always present my map i can present it with difficulties at chambers i cannot do it at county chambers thank you uh do you know i appreciate it commissioner allen's you're on mute at the moment the board of zoning appeals meets on the fourth thursday of every month at the county so unless we were to change the date um the county is really unavailable oh correct uh thank you commissioner ellens and that's what i guess the crux of the question becomes i guess now that we know that there's a possibility that we still could use city council chambers so let me pose a question um as this to the board members um and i see your hand up counselor uh i'm sorry mayor pro-tem gandala so i'll come to you next i just i guess my question to the to the board is this is if we cannot meet in the city council chambers do we want to continue via zoom if we're allowed to or do we want to move it to commission chambers which means we would have to pass probably a resolution to change the date or end or time um and so we could we could still meet on this day within and i know for sure in the commission chambers but we would have to change the time um so let me let me pose it at that and um at least i just wanted to get your feedback mayor pro-tem gandara please go ahead yes thank you um we're in a quandary right so is there a opportunity to meet in the afternoon of the commission um and then my next question is is there an opportunity to meet at the upper conference rooms at the city and and how long will municipal court be in need of the be in need of the chambers um is it just through the summer months as hot as it's been um and and so i i guess i'm posing those questions i'm open up obviously i'd love i love to come back in person um but and i also think that we need to obviously within the confines of our attorney general but i i think this afforded having things through zoom afforded so many people i think um and maybe adrian can give us some input or data related to how many people actually gets on uh um via the zoom um and watching right because i heard through youtube right a b i don't think everybody has access to the clc tv through the local channel if you will so i i think that we really need to pivot and use this as an opportunity and for me to continue with this virtual platform to ensure people are you know as many people that want to watch it um but i i'm open to to a meeting in person and i think the city conference rooms are available or could be made available thank you mayor pro tem and i'll answer the first question um so for the commission chambers yes it is available uh in the afternoon on the fourth thursday so we could have it there and i know we do have the ability for um and to do a hybrid um meeting so to speak where um we can meet in person and then via webex if those that could not attend in person or prefer to stay remote um you know to protect any of the uh for any of their their that that might be vulnerable um they can do it via webex and we i know we just did our first in-person meeting with the npo at the county um and we did have a mixed attendant some in person some remote so at least that is an option um that we could move of the time it would just have to be the time that we would have to change uh mr enriquez i don't know if you can answer on the availability of conference rooms on the second there at city hall well actually the conference rooms on the second floor is what munich has their staff and their equipment so they're kind of using the combination of both i don't know all the details on the chambers but i will follow up on that because if they're not going to use the chambers and it's available but they are on the second floor uh in the conference rooms where they have all their equipment and their staff stationed there and it'll be throughout the summer through the hot months mr chair uh commissioner maria um yes i just wanted to see if if the board will take some consideration on my part being that i to me it's more accessible and it's easier for me to use the um the county building the um las cruces city hall like when i go i have a such a difficult time to find their you know whatever room and it's just a little bit harder for me so hopefully you can consider doing that at the government center thank you oh good point um commissioner trujillo absolutely yes i understand and i'm very open to that as well so am i thank you man so i guess so let me so i guess this is what at least i'm hearing so far is that um i guess we need to find out if the mini court is going to be moving to the chambers if not you know we will we can continue on possibly in july um but it sounds like we do want to kind of meet we would like there's a preference to meet in person or at least have a hybrid um so if we cannot meet in the chambers then we would have to um at least from what i i believe we would have to probably pass a resolution that would indicate we would temporarily change the time of the meeting if we wanted to have it at the commission chambers um and i believe our staff would be willing to accommodate that and like i said we can do the hybrid um there if we need to so um let me if so let me propose this uh is that we'll wait on getting feedback on whether we can use uh the council chambers in july if we cannot then maybe um what we can do is possibly have a special meeting to quickly have a resolution that approves a change in the meeting time so that way i think that would give us i think that's all we would need and then we could change the time um and then and uh venue to the county um is there any objections to that at least going in that course taking that course of action okay well we'll we'll wait uh miss henriquez if you can if you'd be able to follow up and then we can kind of take maybe the next week i know we have the fourth of july holiday but um if we can at least get some feedback of what what we can if we need to then we'll we'll reach out uh via clint on on you know setting up with the board to to determine a time or and or a date if we need to make that time change okay mr chair commissioner i'm sorry uh counselor floaters yes thank you thank you thank you um so uh no one present at this meeting today is everyone present is our entire board here today mr chair i'm just trying to figure out uh whether thursday afternoon for everyone is available uh to me i know uh yes i at my this thursday yeah this thursday of the month is available for me in the afternoon but is everybody else available since no one has spoken up is the assumption or deduction that everyone's available for an afternoon meeting on the same day i guess let me i guess if you don't mind i can go around and pull um so i needed some help i just i because i was silent didn't i i'm trying to look at a calendar to see what i got counselor float is so just give me a bit of time here okay um let me see commissioner allens would you be able to meet in the afternoon on the fourth thursday yes okay uh commissioner trujillo would you be able to meet on the in the afternoon on the fourth thursday of the month i think that would be i guess for july would be july 22nd oh yes okay vice chair beat the suvi would you be able to would you be open to a meeting in the afternoon yes okay and then mayor pro tem i know you're you're looking up uh you're available i can i can so okay so then we'll look at that then is um if if count if the city council chambers is open we'll move forward with our normal plan and we'll probably um and we'll look to meet in july in person um if not then you know we'll look to plan on meeting in the afternoon of july 22nd um in county commission chambers and then if there's any any resolution or anything we need to change then we'll work with uh we'll coordinate with clint on how we can set up something to get that approved prior to uh the meeting on july 22nd to make sure we're we're good on on all fronts okay thank you council for this appreciate you um helping with that um all right if there's no other input on that then uh we'll move on to public input i i have not received any public input clint or bernice i don't know have you received any public input i have not sir no okay no and i have not either thank you okay on that we'll move on to agenda item number seven chair and board comments uh i i don't have like i said i think everything i've uh got everything i need um in terms of where we're looking forward here but uh the rest of the board do you have any input or comments okay uh vice chair bethesduvie and then we'll come back to uh commissioner allens um thank you chair i actually wanted to give a member of um mr thacker's staff a thank you um her name is holly and she works with coordinating with rescues when animals have to come in for surgery i have to say we recently got a kitten i know i said it wasn't located and she had to come in and i just um just watching her interact with the public um and her pleasant demeanor with everyone and just really at it so thank you to your staff and i think that was um great customer service and quality service thank you i'll pass that on to her appreciate it thank you madam vice chair mr ellens there'll be a bit of logistics involved in moving the meeting to the county commission chambers uh clint who's going to deal with that i was hoping that you would i'm just kidding we'll take care of it all right thank you and and clint i'll i'm uh you know we'll get a heads up just so that way we hold that at least have a temporary uh placeholder at the county to make sure just in case we are gonna move move it to there so yeah and the very worst case scenario we we can have our july meeting via zoom so it's we'll be covered no matter what we'll have a place to be we'll also have to we'll also have to make arrangement with i.t to set this up at some point correct so okay thank you commissioner ellen councillor floyd is this here hannah yes i just want to thank everybody after our meetings on thursdays the last thursday of the month um i always feel a sense of humanity for lack of a better word i just especially having our meetings at you know on zoom for the last year and a half or so and i'm here with my doggie and um and i just want to thank everybody for everybody you know everybody who comes on our call uh leanne including even even leanne damouche our budget person and head of finance interim at this time and joshua josh josh and william and just gino and and mary lou and and just everybody bernice everybody uh who um in addition to our board but you know dominic who does a great job of our zoo meetings i just want to thank everybody these these meetings have really um well animals are very you know near and dear to me but these meetings are always very uh heartwarming and i walk away feeling uh more more humane i mean more like a human anyway i just want to share that one thank you mr chair for calling on me when i have all this you know anyway thank you very very much everybody well thank you councilor flotiz and i think the one thing that i've been able to learn and navigate is uh making sure i have the participant thing up just to make sure i can see who has her who has her hand up so um well i guess uh if there's no other input or board comments we'll move on to a tournament can i get a motion and a second to adjourn commissioner ellen's seconded by sorry okay all right uh clint will you call the roll yes sir uh board member mojito trujillo yes board member ellens yes board member flores yes mayor protem gandara yes vice chair of beta stewie and mr chair sanchez yes all right we are adjourned at 11 16 am thank you everyone for joining and i hope you all have a wonderful and safe uh rest of thursday and weekend like guys thank you you