thank you very much foreign thank you foreign thank you foreign [Music] good morning um welcome it is 902 I'd like to call this meeting of the Animal Services Center of the Messiah Valley to to order um Becky could we if you all would join me and and stayed in the Pledge of Allegiance please thank you um Becky if you could help in determining we have quorum please what you needed nope yes Mary Lou Ward present board member Enriquez absent board member Macias absent board member Flores present thank you board member Ellens board member Gandara absent board member Sanchez absent chair Karen here you have a quorum thank you um I would entertain a motion to approve the agenda second by Flores that has been moved by board member Ellens and seconded by board member Flores Becky if any amendments seeing none if we could vote on the agenda please board member Ward yes board member Flores yes board member Ellen yes chair Quran yes thank you do you have an extra agenda my printer wasn't working um I have oh yeah I would like to keep mine actually yeah I think you knew okay um thank you Clint um all right next up I'm going to read the closed meeting statement uh the Animal Services Center met of the Messiah Valley board of directors met in closed session at 10 A.M on October 3rd 2022 the following members were in attendance board members Macias Flores Gandara Ellen's Ward Corin others in attendance included ascmv staff Bernice Navarro and Clint Thacker and Attorney Ben Young the meeting adjourned at 11 17 A.M so I'm going to read this into the record the Animal Services Center of the Messiah Valley met and closed session and only discussed those limited State items as stated in the Post-it notice Madam chair yes a move that we waived the meeting the reading of the minutes that we waved it was a closed session it was a closed session so there isn't any I just had to read the statement these are the closed session meeting yeah there aren't any minutes it's just a close a notice that we had a closed session yeah and we do have to read that so but I don't think we have to have it approved it's just a matter of reading it into the record right thank you next up we are getting around to the minutes from the regular ascmv board meeting and I will note that board member Enriquez and board member Sanchez have joined us so good morning um the minutes I would entertain a motion to approve the minutes from the regular meeting on September 22nd 2017. it's been moved by board member Flores and seconded by board member Ellens uh any amendments and just as an amendment of note that was already made in the intervening time and the second read in the third paragraph of reports and presentations at the document that was distributed says officer wheeler but it's actually officer widala from from City acos so just as a note it's already been amended in these official ones that we've sent out so uh I would entertain a motion to approve or we already had a motion to approve if we can just vote on that please board member fellows yes board member Ellens yes board member Sanchez yes chair Koran yes thank you thank you Becky next up we'll start with reports and presentations we have uh Gene Gilbert here to present the Coalition for pets and people on behalf of um broken promises so Gene thank you for presenting for for broken promises this morning and if you can just state your name for the record when you week good morning I'm Gene Gilbert secretary Coalition for pets and people okay and then I just do the arrows yes as Becky was stating uh this presentation is um about broken promises Southwest and here is their info contact info on this slide they're a non-profit organization and they were established here in Las Cruces in 2010 they humanely address Community cat overpopulation issues through TNR trap neuter return they operate a small Sanctuary for Felines and other animals at their Sanctuary on the East Mesa include a small number of birds like pigeons doves hens and they do have a rooster too and these animals were injured or have a special needs which make them unreleasable broken promises Southwest board of directors also includes a member who does TNR work in Alamogordo and as a resource for that area all services of broken promises are provided free of charge so the organization does rely heavily on donations as a primary source of of their funding from 2014 to present uh broken promises Southwest has tnr'd 1961 cats which is an average of 217 per year to date for this year they've tnr'd 165 cats and the only thing that's really holding them up or slowing them down is the availability of spay neuter appointments they would be doing a lot more if there was greater availability and as you can see by this slide here that their work in TNR in this particular colony is complete it took them took them a year over a year and a half to do that so okay Garfield received medical treatment after being trapped because he was too sick for neuter surgery and after a week's recovery time he was ready to be fixed and released back to his Colony while broken promises prefers not to hold ferals for a lengthy period they do make Provisions when it's necessary so they don't put the animal's life at risk little fluff pictured here was challenging in trapping but they finally met success after weeks of trying and I I want to insert here that um Joe has been helping me I'm in it I've been in a position that I've been able to TNR my colony of six cats and five are now at my home but there's still one and we have been working on that one for a very long time and Joe uses a drop trap so um he's a lot more equipped than most people but so I'm just saying it can be very challenging uh speaking of Joe milley of his on the board of directors with broken promises he led a TNR workshop on the Unitarian campus on September the 11th there were 22 attendees and that and also included me all of us learned the proper way to TNR and how to feed and maintain a colony of cats during the TNR Workshop Joe who's pictured here showed videos that was part of his presentation and it included one here he's working with another person and they're using a drop trap and then now they're covering it as you can see on the video there uh other video information in the workshop included TNR facts and tips from Alley Cat allies which is a National Organization that's dedicated to life-saving work for Community cats broken promises has found homes for 27 cats so far this year most are adopted through their Cattery which is where these people are pictured with their the animals that they've cats that they've adopted and broken promises has been managing the Cattery there at through PetSmart Charities for quite some time now and since 2010 broken promises has adopted approximately 330 cats Zephyr pictured here is from an Alamogordo colony and went back to her outdoor home after being spayed vaccinated shipped and ear chipped and Bob the other cat and the ginger cat pictured here is very lucky to be alive his caregiver saw him struggling to walk and assumed he was either hit by a car or it injured his legs in some way and so broken promises was able to trap and get him to a veterinarian right away we're a Diagnostics show that he had his serious urinary tract infection and so after surgery and fluid therapy he was able to be returned to his colony Brandi came from the Animal Services Center where she had been brought in after being hit by a car her hip and leg were shattered but she underwent successful surgery to repair the damage and since then she's had her sutures removed in his healing well requiring some cage rest which will help her heal before she has another medical evaluation after that broken promises is hopeful to put her up for adoption and the other cat pictured here is broken promises received a message from the Animal Services Center asking if they could accept a feral mom and her three-day-old babies pictured here and luckily they did have a cage available and were able to accept them and Mom will be spayed and fully vetted and the kittens once they're old enough of course will go through the process but they uh broken promises hopes to be able to put them up for adoption as well and that completes the presentation on broken promises so if you thank you for your attention if anyone has any questions for me thank you so much for presenting Gene we really appreciate it and it's good to see you are there any questions from the board board member Flores thank you excuse me thank you madam chair and thank you Gene Ms Gilbert for your presentation you said that um there were spay neuters and then you said there would be more if there was availability is that availability of fun availability of funds doctors you know it's my understanding and I know Kelly Barker has really thoroughly explored it and still trying to get veterinarian here to Las Cruces according to her research New Mexico is 70 000 veterinarian short yeah that's what I remember her saying unless I'm off by a digit but we're very we're short Nationwide veterinarians and so that's not only our problem here but uh it's my understanding we've actually lost ground here in Las Cruces in terms of availability veterinarians so we've lost grants well ground I'm saying oh girls don't have the services wow and I know Clint could probably speak to that too so I know uh ascnb has been trying for a very long time to add to their staff too so so we're 70 that Veterinary is short in the statement maybe it's Nationwide I don't know something to Google I mean don't quote me but it's a pretty serious shortage Nationwide thank you thank you thank you thank you any other questions thank you very much Gene hearing that next up we will hear from the city and county acos so I look to you all to see all right to hear from the county first good morning good morning Madam chair foreign ER and Council men and women I'm Brian Hulsey I'm the case worker for donana County Animal Control and I'm here to report September 2022 monthly report for September we had 279 reported stray animals um we picked up 205 which was a pretty good number for us for how many animals that were reported Strays especially since the county is so big that's that's usually a pretty good number for us if we could reach close to that amount we picked up 70 straight cats and 135 stray dogs we had 10 sick or injured animals three of which were cats and seven were dogs and we had 17 owners surrendered dogs for September here's our reported stray called comparison for the last four years this is our four-year field return to owner comparison so if our officers are in the field and they're able to find the owner and return it this is where this is for we had a pretty good number this month compared to last month and these are our additional animals that we picked up again we had no one or surrendered cats we had 17 owner surrendered dogs we had 10 sick or injured animals we had eight welfare hold animals and that's again if um NMSU or a sheriff unit or a state police unit they would pull someone over and they need us to pick up the animal that's usually what those are for uh we had three shelter quarantines we had four home quarantines we had one Court hold um case come to us with one dog we currently have seven dogs that are in the process of court and we had one Raby submission which came back negative these are districts just as a reminder for you guys um and then these are the animals picked up by District so in district one we only had one dog District Two we had 18 cats and 13 dogs District three we had 10 cats and 29 dogs District Four we had 28 cats and 34 dogs District Five we had four cats and 13 dogs District Six we had nine cats and 12 dogs and District Seven we had one cat and 33 dogs just as a quick note just in case um it came up for anybody we had a lot more dogs picked up in September than catch usually it's our cat's people end up trapping that we have the high numbers on but for September for some reason it was reversed we had a lot more dogs picked up uh these are stray cats picked up um by District and these are the dogs and these are our reasons for owner release of the animals we had two that the owner just couldn't keep the dogs on the property um and they didn't want to end up getting in trouble with us or anybody else so they just don't surrendered them we had eight vicious or livestock attack animals we had two that were sick or old and we had five that were aggressive and for that I'll stand for any questions thank you Brian any questions from the board board member Sanchez please thank you uh absolzi I think just a quick question I know when you look at the the Geo uh the numbers by the Geo districts do we have anything in the county that is similar to the way the city does by having actual like location on a map that we can see I know that they use like a GIS map to identify where all of their uh you know where they're where they're picking up all of their Strays and I'm just curious because you know I know the one thing that that stuck out to me is something you had said which is absolutely true where the number of Strays versus the number of calls that we get that or the number of pickups that you get versus the number of calls is you know can vary Because by the time the call comes in you all get out there that are they're gone so I was just curious though like when we if there's any way to get an idea of where the calls are coming from and then the actual pickups coming from and if are we seeing specific areas I know you're looking by Geo District but actual like you know blocks or residences that we're seeing repeat offenders or numerous calls and and the reason I ask is because um when we when we go when I've had the uh my meetings in in the district and I know the last one that I had was in Rincon and this was a Hot Topic right was um can can attest to and so we're trying to figure out I guess are we having issues with Pacific residents specific areas and then what can we do to Target those areas because when I look at the number of calls that have come across year over year over the year it's con it seems consistent so how do we I you know well the calls are good because people are reporting it but how do we get that number to come down right um so as far as that goes um I know that there's probably a way that we can um get that um with the gis system but we'd have to work with the rest of the county to get that set up um see if it's possible because honestly I don't know if it's 100 possible but I could look into that for you and then as far as districts um usually when we go to districts um if we have um hot spots we can get it set up with them um sorry sorry um so if we have districts and if we have areas that we are known problem areas when our officers get a chance we usually try to patrol those areas to try to minimize and educate and try to get those areas set up to where they're not those areas anymore um and then for us as well we we just had our um ordinances go with between boccc and we had some stuff placed in that to help with that as well correct yeah and that's I'm kind of curious like I said with this push with the new ordinance that we just approved you know how do we how do we get smarter because I know you I know the team is is working very hard to make sure they're servicing the county but the resources are strained as it is so how do we get smarter in where we're going and you know maybe maybe also with the ability or when we're lending out cages or traps you know is there a way that we can make sure that people are getting the traps in locations so that maybe you know we have those there the residences can the residents can help us with with identifying or capturing some of these animals so that way they're not they don't disappear and and we're getting calls coming back to the same location same location we don't see the animal and we just keep getting those calls back and then you've got an officer that has to keep driving all the way out to the various parts of the of the county so right and um you're you're correct um we we have started a like a pilot program we're still working on getting it finalized for people that if they need a dog trap or a cat trap due to you know you know packet dogs running that area or something like that that they could come to our office pick up a trap they sign for it and then they have so long to bring them back things like that to help out with that so that way if for some reason um you know our officers don't have a trap due to whatever issues we have just because we only have so many cups available and everyone wants one so we're we're trying different methods to try to help out with that as well and I'd be curious Mr Macias if if uh you know with the utilization of our community Resource Centers maybe that's something that we could look to have maybe some traps that are set up locally that maybe even the HHS Department might be able to you know check those in and out locally within those communities so that we don't have to have the residents or our acos go out there and have provide those traps I I would think that we would want to stay with the acos because they can provide the training and the utilization of the traps rather than our HHS employees who you know may not have that background but I would think that we would want to um work with the community and I know that we do go into the communities I know that we go door-to-door in some of the communities explaining the opportunities for spay and neuter and and who to call when there are loose animals if uh the with the chair's permission if I could have Mary Lou talk a little bit about how we track repeat problems within each of the communities please thank you chair thank you in regards to to the mapping just to go over that real quick we that is something we definitely can get with our GIS on that and set up a mapping system in regards to that um in our repeat offenders currently we have a system in place where we keep track of animal owners who are neglect and don't comply with the laws where we will address them educate them and either give them a citation give them a warning or you know go through the progressive process as you would with any any person where it initiates with an animal problem that's what we initially would do we keep that system in our shared Drive which is something that's accessible to all the Animal Control Officers when they're out in the field and they can access it through their their laptops their their tough books in regards to that they can go they can go to a property look at that property and see whether we've had an incident already or they can also look at it through the 911 system and look at the past notes from that officer as well as I can and see what those past notes are in C what the incident was or how many times we have been out there and see what what has happened with that location and whether we have charged that individual or whether that individual is just letting that animal run loose and we've charged them in court already that's why we have found that we needed something stricter in place and we've implemented that in the new ordinance now to hopefully that'll help us go a little bit further in regards to that great thank you appreciate it Miss Warden you know I just and the reason you know I think what I I just want to see is how do we you know I think they said because that's always the Hot Topic right it's it's usually animals and trash are the big ones that I hear from and I know that that's where we have these events out you know we had one Rincon now we're gonna have one in Garfield and so I know you guys are doing uh you know we're out there in the community I'm just trying to see you know is there anything else that we can do or might work a little bit more efficiently that might help us so you know whatever you all come up with and I think uh especially with the new ordinances um you know I think there's there's a lot of opportunity out there and if we can you know maybe look at even some new projects or new ways of working I'd really appreciate it and you have my support for that thank you yeah yeah system where the officers do go out and they do loan out traps for problematic or vicious and or dangerous or animal bites things like that where we really need to capture that individual animal and once those traps are not available to that officer and they can't say they're on their truck and they've already given out all their trouts and they have to go out to something else they can offer to that individual to come into the office and pick up a trap themselves and then it will be in that office and then they'll alert us we'll have that trap ready for that individual with that type of trap that they need so that they can come by and pick it up from us and they can still have that service available to them okay great thank you thank you Mr I appreciate it and thank you Mr Macias thank you thank you board member Sanchez board member you're you're good okay I'll remember Flores please thank you madam chair and thank you Brian uh you mentioned that or you showed on a slide that there are um I think seven animals that are being held uh pending a court um yeah oh oh those there's one Court no um maybe maybe I saw the seven but um so when uh there are court cases uh pending um what um it's for neglect I I presume or abuse what happens uh what happens in court which court is it I mean I I don't know anything about that yes I I could um I could clarify that for you so right now um if we have any case that is a cruelty livestock attack a bite um neglect there there could be several different reasons why we have the animals at our courthold but usually those are cases that we have to do a petition on we get warrants to hold those animals at our court hold facility sometimes those cases could be done within a matter of two weeks sometimes we have a case for four of those dogs right now that have been going since April wow and their next court isn't until December so some some cases are going to be there for a while it just depends on what's going on so um that's why we're just given the numbers as of right now and then the court hold the quarantine case that you see there that's the one that's just a new case that we had that was brought in for that month for whatever reason it was I believe that one was for a livestock attack so um what happens to the owners in the meantime I mean do you ever get enough evidence just to hold the uh the defendant in this case I mean uh like a severe abuse or something is has a an owner ever been held um in you know in jail pending the outcome Madam chair with your permission let me address that I don't believe that you'll certainly Bond levels and release is more the norm for that kind of charge have people gone to jail have they been punished for animal abuse certainly and some of these cases that may take longer it's because they're at a felony level at the district court and you're dealing with those issues I wasn't aware that we had one that long I think that we need to perhaps be more aggressive in having the district court address that particular issue so I don't think that it's the norm to have individuals stay in jail pending their cases but there certainly are cases where individuals have been incarcerated for different periods of time because of being found guilty of those particular charges uh thank you Mr Macias um yeah because my my you know I think that if um I I think there should be a lot of Education or publicity about that to let owners know that they are accountable for the welfare of the um their pet or their animal and if um and I think that there should be a a lot of publicity on that because I think there's more than we realize I mean you know can identify yes and I get a test for myself when I was an officer out in the field usually if I dealt with someone and I gave them a warning and I had to end up going back I would at that point let him know hey at this point you're looking at this this and this these are your possible outcomes if this persists I'd prefer it not to go that route however this these could be outcomes for that so I mean education is always involved when we go and talk to owners because we'd rather have compliance and non-compliance because in that that makes it more for us because then we have to go to court and everything instead of being out in the field and helping people out with their animals so we we had always preferred compliance if we could get it so and then do you follow up yes we follow up as much as we can in it and it depends sometimes we could talk to the person right then and there and let them know and and it's good to go sometimes we have people that just they just don't really care or think that oh you're just a dog catcher nothing's gonna happen so um usually they end up finding out when they end up getting a summons for court so and then we go that route so but like I said we try not to go that route unless we have to but I mean we always try to get compliance and Education First great thank you so much Brian thank you madam chair thank you both any other questions thank you very much officer Halsey next up good morning good morning Madam chair members of the board my name is Gino Jimenez I'm the animal control supervisor for the city of Las Cruces I will present to you our September 22 monthly report for the month of September we responded to 517 reported Strays of those 312 were Goa meaning that the officer did not have contact with that animal we were able to apprehend 205 Strays of those 179 were impounded at the Animal Service Center 104 were dogs and 75 were cats we were successful in field rtoing 26 animals back to their owner and those are animals that never crossed the threshold of the Animal Service Center we were unsuccessful in uh filled RTO in 20 those were animals that had some sort of identification but for some reason we're not able to be returned to their owner out in the field so that gave us a grand total of 46 identifiable animals here is our stray reported stray graph you can see again that for September we had 517 bringing us to a total of 42.37 for the year if we keep with this trend it looks like we will be right within our average or a little bit low hopefully below next is our three-year field RTO uh again for September we had 26 bringing us to a grand total of 396 for the year um big drop since July typically that happens during this time of the year as you can see from the last two years we take a slight increase in October but then it comes our summer our winter months where our filled RTO rate is going to go down again here is our latest slide for the community cap program we were able to we captured 39 animals and traps of those 21 were released right where they were captured or in that vicinity so for the cats and traps total we had 417 for the year and we were able to release 81 of those reasons for owner surrendering animals who had eight for the owners that were no longer able to afford them five from one owner he was going to be put into assisted living and could no longer take care of himself or the cats three dogs for aggression two towards a toddler and one towards the owner two dogs the landlord would not allow on his property the new landlord I should say one dog was unable to re-home and it does not get along with his roommate's dog one dog the owner was arrested the mom owner released it owner released it due to its age and health one dog uh it killed the owner's other dog and finally one cat for erratic or aggressive behavior the reasons that we were able unable to field RTO 15 was no contact by phone or at Residence One was a Texas address one was an El Paso address and one was a California address one chip was not updated one the owner was contacted but they were out of town well the other next one is the owner lives in El Paso finally uh or the next one is the owner was contacted and said that they would pick it up from the acmb and one chip was not registered and finally won the microchip company would not give the owners information but they would email the owner to let them know that the dog was at the Animal Service Center and with that I'll stand for any questions very much you're welcome are there any questions from the board great thank you board member thank you madam chair and thank you Geno you didn't show us a picture of the distribution that Manny referred to Madam chair board member Flores we stopped at I believe almost a year now really and I haven't noticed where have I been that was the Stray chart yes yes we stopped that about a year ago um the reason being is Manpower issues I was really currently as it is currently I only have four officers out in the field and at the time we also lost our two office assistants whose primary job was to do that to input that information that map would take almost a week and a half to two weeks to input all the numbers so once they weren't there that came on me to try to do my other duties as well as input that map and it was decided that we wouldn't do that anymore Geno perhaps this is outside of your a range of knowledge and perhaps outside of my job but those positions that are empty are they being filled again do you know are they open or were they positions just don't exist anymore or do you know anything about that Madam chair board member Florida we were able to fill one of those positions we had two office assistants they were both assigned to animal control and codes one position was filled the other one was dissolved in that office assistant went to a different department within a different section within the police department thank you Gino thank you madam chair thank you board member Flores thank you again Gino any other questions from the board it's hearing none thank you again you're welcome moving on good morning Clint good morning executive director at the Amazon Center Messiah Valley here to talk to you about our September numbers for the center so our current animal count here at the animal center is 506 animals as you can see this continues to creep up to the pre-pandemic numbers you'll see also in this presentation that I I believe we're almost there numbers are are very high and can continue to increase we have 457 dogs come in month of September and 327 cats come in you look at our current intake for 2022 for the month of September was 798 to 8 almost 800 animals came in our returns and these are animals that left the center adopted and was returned we had three dogs and zero cats diverted intakes these are animals that came to the center or somebody called us with an animal and then we do all we can to divert them leaving the animal there for instance dogs they may say I can't afford this dog anymore I can't afford food we'll say well we can give you a bag of food would that help you through the month they say oh yeah that'd be great they could also be saying I have to have vaccines I can't do it well we offer that vaccine just anything we can do to keep the animal with the individuals so in September we had a total of 222 another one is if a stray comes in person found a stray will scan it has a microchip we'll call the owner the owners come and get the animal so that's a diverted intake as well these are our outcomes so all those numbers that you just saw these are the how they left 19 left as adoptions 14 left his reclaims 15 as rescues 11 and a half Community cats 30 percent was euthanasia so uh leaves us with a live release rate of 66.3 live release rate is the percentage of the animals that came into the center how many of them left alive our goal is always 90 that's the Mark we want to hit because that means that that qualifies us as a no-kill facility so some of the ones I want to point out really quick is the rescues we had significantly less rescues rescues are full we are reaching out I know this month in the month of October we've been we've sent animals to Indiana Kansas um I of course locally here and you'll see in the next Slide the ones we've done but we're reaching out and trying to get these animals out the best that we can but rescues are full it's it's continuing to see that same trend these are Transfer Partners in September as you can see action program for Animals is always a big one for us and they're local we appreciate everything that they do for us 13 cats and one dog Front Range Freedom rescue this is actually an interesting one they are based in Colorado and they take cats the reason why they're taking so many cats is because we received a grant that allows us to the basis of the grant is if if so we it's extra veterinarian work so if we go to a like Front Range and we say will you take cats and they say no we're full we can't move them very fast and we say well can you take cats if we sterilize them and they say yeah we can move cats if they're already sterilized so that's what that Grant pays for is that extra veterinarian work uh so that's been very useful to move a lot of animals because we'll always ask that we'll say can you will you take another one if it's sterilized you take another one if this has been repaired or this surgery is done and if they say yes then that Grant pays for that extra veterinarian work these are euthanasia reasons again the number one medical failure to thrive that is generally kittens that come to us generally these kittens that come are in pretty sad shape people don't understand and and don't know that they can't be away from the mother for that long usually it's overnight every three hours three to four hours are supposed to be fed and so people just don't know that so when we get them there past the point of helping them so we euthanize as a failure to thrive the second one is space medical what that means is as we go once we're at space critical and that depends all on the number of animals that come in that day the first place we look is Medical um for that space these are animals that would generally stay if we have the room and continue to treat but these ones are like not responding to treatment really really super sick you know contagious of others are these types of animals but it is the only reason why we're looking at them is for space but they're not healthy adoptable animals these are surgeries this is a phenomenal number when you consider our surgery Department had a little bout with covid that they shared amongst themselves they still were able to do 404 surgeries the other that you see there 117 that's just other surgeries um and it could be anything from fixing uh sterilization to a our complications to amputations anything of that nature the total visitors at the center went down a little bit to 1 573 for the month of September so we change this slide up a little bit so it tells them of a better story if you remember it used to be just the number these are adoptions by appointment so we have two types of adoptions one you see an animal you like online you call and make an appointment and you come in and see it the other type that you'll see the next slide is walk-ins people that are interested so we had 56 appointments uh set or I'm sorry 98 appointments that were made and four was canceled or no show so that left us with I'm sorry there's 56 adoptions from those so roughly 50 Cent 57 percent of our appointments made resulted in an adoption when you compare it to walk-ins we had 307 groups that's not people that's grouped so husband wife friends you know there may be three of them but when they counted as one and that also resulted in 56 adoptions but it's only 18 percent so we we do know that the better or more exact way to go about doing it is via adoptions but we're keeping both of these options open because that is another 56 adoptions we were able to get out of that our volunteers doing an amazing job total hours were 683 and one of the presentations you're going to hear today is from our volunteer coordinator and she's going to talk to us about the volunteer program when it happens or what it takes to be a volunteer some training you get and also some changes in the volunteer program that they've made in month of October I can tell you it was amazing they walked and they also did it in September they walked every single Dog available dog in the center was able to get out so that's pretty incredible our web page views 35 656 again people who are watching those are not unique hits those are it's a page that's viewed so if you view a dog on a page that's one if you click backwards to see the whole list of dogs that's another view and then you click on another dog it's another view so our Facebook hit 2935 and we expect that to be going up in October with a lot of our our specials and announcements that we're doing for instance we have a big announcement coming up on December fourth right okay December 4th is our drive-through Clinic we're going to be having so another big one of the Field of Dreams we're excited for that one but you're going to see a lot of drive on Facebook for that and these are our pets of the week Leo and Cali I'll stand for any questions let me have thank you very much Clint uh board member Ellen's please the program I don't recall with the direct or indirect where you tell the animal owner that you give him the food give her the vaccination what's the cost of that on an annualized basis the food is actually food that's donated to us it's generally what we try to give them so that's no cost to us and the vaccines are very nominal um it's I want to say it's it's like around two or three dollars per vaccine we've never looked at the cost that it is to do the whole thing but I can tell you that it's much more it's much more inexpensive to do that than it is to have the animal at our facility with staff caring for it and utilizing cage space and it also saving an animal's life is that a line item budget no what it's not and because I don't recall ever seeing it what's the quality of the food that you receive it could be anything like it's um it's very rarely do people buy and just bring it to us usually it's their dog passed away so they gave it to us or their dog won't eat it so they give it to us but we do it occasionally and get donations of whole bags and it's satisfactory because quality of dog food varies dramatically do you basically get low quality uh I wouldn't say no I no I'm going to say no okay thanks thank you Madam chair thank you board member Ellen's board member Sanchez please hi Clint all right so just uh two simple questions at least I think simple oh sure [Laughter] it's gonna be uh sure the diverted intake numbers is that do those count at all to the intakes or are those completely separate don't count as intakes okay and then the Life release rate for the do we have one year to date we do not okay and the reason I ask is because I mean that was a huge there was huge numbers that we got here in uh September and so you know I was just wondering obviously that was you had a lot of Youth uh euthanasians euthanizations that happened this last month and that can sway the number so I was just curious to see where we're at um here today uh just as I know like I said I know your chart we always want to Target the 90 percent but like I said if not doesn't have to be here in the meeting if you don't have it but I'd just be curious just to know where we're at okay thank you thank you any other questions from the board all right thank you Clint for again making an untenable situation as tenable us given the intake rates all right thank you next up I think we're gonna hear from Vanessa come on up um good morning we're looking forward to hearing from you if you can just state your name for the for the board and and share with us some updates to the Foster program okay I'm Vanessa Chastain I'm the Foster coordinator here at Animal Service Center [Music] okay all right um so I'll go over the Foster program today and I'll sorry is that better okay um so why fostering benefits animals keep it helps keeps the animals happy healthy less stressed provides opportunities for the animals to get adopted and sent to rescue also it's utilizing our foster homes will increase the capacity of the capacity sorry capacity of our Center allowing us continuing to reduce euthanasia so as soon as one animal leaves into foster data opens another space for another animal to be intake all right who's eligible to become a foster parent anyone that's over 18 years of age I'm willing to provide a safe loving and stable environment for a foster home anyone that's able to nurse or any injury or willing to take care of an animal that has an illness and understanding that not all outcomes are always positive and able to bring the animals back and forth to the Animal Service Center for appointments and adoption events and that's really important just because you could have animal in your home and Foster it but if you're unable to bring it back and forth for its medical appointments exams or for socials then it makes it difficult to get that animal adopted um also I forgot to add on the slide but you do have to be a in the live in the doiana County area also how can you Foster with the Animal Service Center it's pretty easy just three simple things you could fill out a foster care agreement and application and then within 48 time 48 hours I will contact the potential Foster and set up an appointment once we have the appointment set up I will go over the Foster orientation and go over the Foster program and what it entails if they are approved they could take a foster home that same day or they could schedule an appointment for another day to pick up a foster animal Madam chair board member Ellens how was the animal to be fostered selected so any available for foster it just depends what The Fosters able to take care of and what their house is able to handle so they walk through the center you can select an animal correct um I will take a minute tour throughout the facility I'll show them all the animals in the facility ones that are waiting they're stray hold ones that are available for adoption basically any area in the center the animal is available for foster it just depends on what that Foster is able to handle all right thank you thank you thank you board member Evelyn Scott Vanessa thank you what animals are available to Foster anyone that needs transitional housing while awaiting permanent adoption or transfer to a rescue partner having medical concerns or conditions that can be better dressed in a foster home Happy Behavior concerns that can potentially be rehabilitated and knowledgeable foster homes animals too young to be spayed or neutered those will be animals under eight weeks of age that need intensive care and bottle feeding or transitional from bottle feeding to normal food um and then as well as a nursing and bottle fed litters how ascmv helps foster parents who provide a positive outcome we provide supplies and food that's appropriate for the Foster we provide resources to help guide The Fosters in their Foster experience our staff and myself the Foster coordinator are available to answer any questions or concerns they may have and we're available pretty much all the time if there's any questions after hours they could email us and we can provide the answers the next day um you could bring your Foster animal for medical exams if any concerns arises we do have the medical team on seven days a week so availability for appointments are always available providing opportunities to take Fosters to off-site events and get them adopted another thing would be allowing them to go to rescues all right some changes that have happened in the Foster program before the Foster program was run by employees at the center or a volunteer has helped part-time aside from their full-time jobs now we have a full-time Foster coordinator that's able to dedicate and I'm able to dedicate all my time to the Foster program also I try to send Fosters with foster kids while the supplies last so cats and kittens I provide food toys blankets litter boxes litter scoopers when it comes to the bottle kittens they do get supplied with a kitten formula a heating disc to help keep their body temperatures at the temperature they're supposed to be bottles blankets anything to help those kittens Thrive and make it through to their adult life dogs and puppies I provide food toys blankets and treats if unfortunately if toys were treats aren't available we do at least provide them with the food also we did Implement a new foster care agreement as of August 13th and if you want I could provide you guys with those foster agreements so then you can see the changes in the your guys's copies I did highlight things that we have improved the wording and or we added new bullet points the foster care agreement has gone through with our lawyer and our veterinarian to make the changes that are needed also I implemented a foster handbook before it was just the Fosters would get a foster agreement and now we have a foster handbook that goes over the Foster program and fostering and what it entails what we expect from our Fosters what Foster should expect from us supplies and how to take care of a foster that's it do you guys have questions thank you so much for coming and presenting and sharing what's been going on with you all board member Gandara thank you thank you madam chair thank you so much for your presentation and thank you for your work I know this is a huge load especially with the number of changes I know that the board has worked with Clint to to you know put together with the new Foster handbook kind of the roles and responsibilities right of of the posture but also for yourself so thank you for all that work I know that's not easy I wanted to ask in terms of the foster care orientations do you have them often or is it only when someone says I want to be a foster I'm thinking I'm not sure if you're familiar I'm I'm have a lot of experience in child welfare so we had a foster program that we would do just orientations right that were scheduled once a month and and do a lot of of of advertising that they were happening and that way you know sort of building the list if you will yes so when I started we did have like a um Foster orientation just one um and I had Fosters come in new Fosters as well but as of right now when I have a potential Foster I give them individual orientations so that way I could address any questions concerns that they have and then find The Foster that's proper for their home and just I tried to do it individualized so that way they have an understanding of the Foster program but I will be working on having a group orientation so that way if people aren't ready to posture the same day they could just get the information provide needed and think about and come back when they're ready so do you have a tool thank you thank you for that do you have a tool that helps you and the Foster potential Foster to match up the the dogs and kittens unfortunately I do not but what I go over with The Fosters I ask them how many animals they have at home what type of animals they have if they're vaccinated if they're fixed and then also what their home life is like if they work if they have kids and then I try to help them figure out what would be best for their household and do you do an environmental screening like actually go to the home and sort of see if there's enough room and it's tailored to an animal if you will So currently um I do not but um in our foster care agreement if if it is needed we are able to go in of course with the Foster's approval and everything to go look at their home and see how everything is and see what their capacity is allowed and tell me the number again remind me the number of Fosters that you currently have currently right now yesterday there's do you want people or do you want um animals in Foster both so I do know I have 120 animals in Foster okay and then I want to say it was about 66 active Fosters that are currently fostering those 120 animals okay and none that are just sort of weight awaiting a animal at this point yes so there's plenty of people that have filled out Foster applications but unfortunately what the shelter love system I'm not able to run a report of like active pending sure I'm just able to pull a report of people that are willing to foster okay and I do know that list is pretty long yeah I don't have the exact number right right okay thank you again for your work and great presentation and welcome we'd love to see more of you thanks Madam chair thank you so much board member Flores please thank you madam chair I just want to thank you it was wonderful and I'm glad you did that the Foster handbook yes thank you very much all right Madam chair if I may please excellent Factor executive director the choice to be a foster is a very personal one and a lot of times people will go online and they'll see an animal they like to Foster or the bigger one is is we'll put a plea on Facebook and we'll say this animal needs foster it might be injured or it might be a mom with kittens and so then somebody will reach out to Vanessa so that's why we've kind of stepped away from the group sessions and it's more very much more of a personal one-on-one type of scenario because we don't know what type of counseling that individual might need Injured Dog counseling for fostering is way different than a mom with kittens fostering so I think Vanessa's doing an excellent job looking at and seeing each one this is a one-on-one basis I know it's hard and she gets calls that's why we did the 48 hours is because she she gets calls all day long throughout sometimes throughout the night Etc so I've had the tone to turn her phone off stay as our coordinator and not get any compassion burnout but there's also other means while her phone's office other means for medical treatment that we've set aside with on-call that text is like that so yeah she's doing an incredible job thank you and thank you so much Vanessa again for your presentation and for coming here and all the work that you're doing yes thank you thank you okay oh sorry did you have a question Mary okay are you sure okay you're good thank you next up we have um the volunteer program update so early please thank you for being here this morning thank you thank you for having me please state your name my name is Yolanda Jurado I am the volunteer coordinator at the ascmv all right so here's our monthly September breakdown we have a 137 active volunteers and by active I mean they have been active within the last three months we also contain two NMSU interns who help our medical staff that means with surgery or our vet technicians to a student interns who are academic um career exploring student interns and of course overall we have 367 Volunteers in the program for volunteers who are specific to our dog walking team that means they have completely successfully completed our dog walking training course with Clarin our volunteer but also licensed dog trainer we also have 25 Volunteers in our cat care team and they help us with our cat rooms our stray cat rooms and our adoptable care rooms so overall for the month of September we have 683 hours of volunteer time here are a couple changes to our volunteer application we added some more um programs that they can help us with which is including sorry I'm a little nervous it's the first time specific to TNR community outreach off-site Cat Care at Petco our photography team which is growing a lot community outreach which we're barely starting but we've been present at the fair and handed out brochures and information that can help other individuals and the community know what the ascmv does um and we've also added towards the bottom that the ascmv is looking for volunteers who can commit to volunteering for at least six months for at least four hours a month we don't discourage anyone not to apply either way but it's also in our handbook and it's also in our welcome letter next on our volunteer agreement on reliability waiver we did add I do understand that the ascnv reserves a right to deny an application without an explanation and reason next additions and changes to our ascnb volunteer handbook we did add to our policy our social media outline and that's just be aware of what you're putting online you are a volunteer at the center and it's not a good idea to make us try and look bad when we are trying to help and do our best and of course our conflict resolution procedures which was recently added to our handbook as well and that just outlines the procedures that we'll take to be able to help the volunteer um make changes to continue helping us if not completely dismissing so the process of becoming an ASE and volunteer of course your application is processed within about a week due time volunteers receive an email from me welcoming to the program that email contains a welcome letter our volunteer handbook and our online orientation from then the volunteer will choose a tour date of the facility which is typically a week or two before the next dog training class or Workshop that they want to take they'll of course get the days to the next dog walking course um once the volunteer responds they get added to my regular emailing list and so on they get notices of events next classes workshops for cat care anything like that um this is what our online orientation looks like these are just screenshots it's just a little bit outlines the program it goes through the handbook gives all the information of what we provide in the program next we recently separated our ascmv Foster and volunteer Facebook page we now run our own volunteer page and that just informs of the events which makes it a little bit easier for them to select which events they can go to but also keeps us up to date of any animal adoptions any animals they've helped events that we're doing that we went to and just to keep updated with each other and make it personal one-on-one instead of everything being jumbled up it's a foster page as well next is what we're working on and what we're doing we currently hold a monthly group walk with all our dog walking volunteers we do invite new members to come so they can get an inside look of what to expect we have volunteers that attend Santa Grace Village and take a dog with them to help with Paul's therapy timid dog adoptability and enrichment we have volunteers come in and focus one-on-one on timid dog's fearful dogs that way they can become more adoptable and of course adaptability and enrichment with long-term dogs and big dogs we have hosted a volunteer Camp we're going to have one before the end of the year again and something I personally work on is the barn cat program which helps Community cats that are not welcomed back into the previous Community to have a better environment that they can thrive in what we're working on is play groups for the new center cat photography and enrichment we do a lot for dogs so we want to start doing the same for cats and having it balanced and not just focusing on one and of course our outreach program and lastly here's venues that we've attended or going to attend for adoption events and on the right side you'll see our volunteer groups that have helped us throughout the year any questions awesome thank you so much for coming and presenting are there any questions from the board seeing none no go ahead board members thank you madam chair thank you for your presentation thank you um really appreciate the work that you do very impressive both of you actually I think it important right that we're as transparent as we can and and knowing all the various programs in in better detail is is has been really excellent for me so thank you thank you thank you madam chair thank you yeah thank you so much you thank you both for coming and presenting great job what yeah thank you the Powerpoints were on point great great PowerPoints yeah good job good job y'all we'll invite you back if you want to come thank you so much for presenting and no no I mean in general like we would love to have you here in the future thank you though you don't have to come back today all right next up um on our agenda are the committee reports so I first turned to board member Enriquez please um good morning chair and board members we did have a finance committee meeting on uh this past Thursday and um there were really no issues on the reporting and Mr Liam Beasley will from the finance department will be providing that report but I also wanted to mention that we did continue the discussion on the reserve or fund balance at that time and we'll continue to have those conversations until we come up with a good solution as to what we can present to the board thank you thank you please welcome good morning thank you good morning uh good morning Madam chair members of the board I'm Liam Beasley I'm a senior accountant in the city's finance department and so I'll be going over the monthly financial report for September on the first slide we have the highlights for the statement of net position total cash in the general fund was 1 million sixty seven thousand two hundred and eighty one receivables were 2 900 resulting in total assets of one million seventy thousand one hundred and eighty one liabilities were 114 804 Revenue collected in advance was two hundred seventy two thousand forty six unassigned fund balance was 683 331. for the change in that position total revenues through September were 1 million two hundred and sixty eight thousand nine hundred and fifty total expenditures were eight hundred and eighty seven thousand two hundred ninety three and that resulted in a net change of an increase of 381 657. now for the budget to actual comparison for the change in that position total budgeted revenues were four million 151 375. the actual revenues through September made up 30.6 of the annual budget and then moving down to expenditures the total budget is four million two hundred and eighty seven thousand a 850 and the actuals through September were 20.7 percent of that budget and then here is the month-to-month revenues and expenditures and you'll if you'll recall from the previous board meeting the reason that the revenues dropped so drastically between July and August is due to the fact that the city and county both contribute 22 percent of their annual contribution in the first month and then the remaining spread out over the next 11 months for the expenses we had a hundred thousand dollar expense increase between August and September and this is just due to salary and benefits because we had three pay periods Post in the month of September and normally there would just be two that post in a month then out of that 887 000 in expenditures this is how it's broken down we had salary at 55 benefits at 19 percent temp service is two percent repairs and maintenance half a percent is 14 supplies four percent Insurance five percent and then others at last one percent then as was discussed in the prior board meeting um we they were discussing the fund balance policy of having that 112th Reserve and it was requested that we provide some numbers for the previous few years um as to what that number would have been so we have numbers going back to fiscal year 2015 and in the second column we have the budgeted expenditures for each of those years and so the 112th reserve requirement would be calculated based off of those budgeted expenditures then we have the ending fund balance in the fourth column and those are taken from audited numbers and then in the final column we have the fund balance minus the reserve so the fourth column minus the third column and that would tell you whether the fund balance was over the reserve or feels under the reserve if it was negative and that concludes the financials and I can stand for any questions thank you very much Liam I appreciate it board member Flores please yeah thank you madam chair and thank you so much uh Liam um so the year-to-date salary on uh page six shows that um it's 55 percent and my experience since I've been you know in public or whatever Public Service um the that that pie section is always a lot higher than 55 so my question is why um is it because um there are unfilled uh positions or or why I mean I don't know what other question to ask but the first thing that comes to my mind is is it because there are unfilled positions and if so why if you might shed some light on that right thank you Liam yes board member floor is members of the board I'm not sure as to why would be maybe less of a percentage compared to previous fiscal years but I can research into that and get back to you if you would like oh sorry I was just going to say my sense is often when we see this the benefits are added in with the salary and so that's why the pie appears more that might be an explanation but I need to know because I think that um I just want to make sure that all because one of the things that I've seen throughout my experience here at with City Hall not not the asmb but um not the shelter service center but just generally um you know the pie is always you know bigger and I just want to make sure because my concern is that there we are aware of the fact that there are a lot of unfilled positions in the city and it remains a big mystery to council members you know as to why and if there's been allocations for positions they should be filled so um thank you Liam and thank you madam chair thank you thank you any other questions from the board all right hearing none thank you Liam that's the end of the finance report correct all right thank you the executive report we I did meet with with Clint on October 4th we talked about what we could go over at this meeting and some of the outstanding questions that we have as far as upcoming meeting dates as well as key issues that were happening in part and we did Cover a little bit of the facilities but I I'll leave it to board member Gandara to do that so that's the executive report board member Gandara please thank you madam chair we did not meet for facilities I believe Clint was doing a transport that day and or Disney Disneyland vacay that's right even better Disneyland with the fam Bam Bam so we didn't have one and didn't schedule um I don't know if we can bring Clint up to maybe speak to facilities and where we're at with the new facility I think would be in order he does that anyway because we most we have our meeting so early in the month that by the time we meet things sometimes drastically change or there's updates so thank you Clint thank you very much Glenn Thacker executive director the new center is moving along really well we have hit a rather large snag however and that is what has always been the snag is the manufacturing of the dog and cat kennels in our meeting we had last Tuesday the the contractor said listen we're on our last the inside of the building is is pretty much done uh the the last phase that they're at is Landscaping they said after Landscaping we can't pay somebody just to sit here so in other words they're going to lock the building up and because it's still their property until substantial completion and and that's what we've done until those cat those cages come in and we're talking the large dog cattle cages and also the cat cages inside the facility um I I do want to talk and see with the contractor and also with the city if there's any way that we could move in because they're still the cat rooms we have all the furniture is going to be coming in all of the computers are going to be coming in everything's going to be there that we need except for the cages and just some of the areas so we would like to get in there as soon as possible but I it doesn't look like we will because of the the change of permissions and you know being inside a building that doesn't belong to the city and so on and so forth but that's what we're waiting for the building is beautiful it's great to see and there's there's a lot of room for us to grow and do the things that we want to do there some of the items in the existing Center and I again I have to be careful because I get this month the last month except sometimes what we're going to talk about so I know the we had some issues with some clogged drains that in one of the kennels and we called Roto-Rooter in they were able to get those unclogged there we believe we have a broken pipe down in one of the kennels so that's going to cause some significant issues if it is in fact broken they're going to be putting a camera down to see for sure what that condition is uh we have a lot of equipment that is needs to be replaced it's breaking for instance scales scales are very very important at the center because we have medicine that we dose out according to weight and some of these floor scales these large floor scales that the dog gets on they're around three or four hundred dollars each we have to purchase some for the new center so it's just a continual you know stuff's wearing out these these scales were purchased a long time ago um so we're keeping an eye on those some other items is remove I contacted um the city yesterday about moving forward on the pond relocation the retention pond so we're going to be getting that going to start up again that's all I have thank you thank you thank you Clint are there any questions from anyone on the board I I do have a quick question Glenn sorry do you have did they give you any sense of when the cages might be arriving or could be arriving you you don't want to know do you really want to know yeah they're saying March that's why you don't want to know yeah it's it's pretty it's pretty frustrating the problem is is there's only like four manufacturers that do maybe five that do cages that are reputable and who you want to work with big names in the industry and so when they say they can't get some you're kind of stuck you can't it's not like a cement you know personally you can just go to the next cement truck in town and ask so we if I remember right they may have already switched vendors a long time ago because the first one was like no we can't do that and then this one said they could but probably actually can't yeah and another one is it may not be their fault steel is is really hard to find right now and all of those cages are all stainless steel fence work uh all of that is it all has some component that is backed up and hard to find board member Flores please thank you so is that under contract and is the price locked in or those variables and so far as prices and stuff that's a great question yeah the price is locked in if I remember right they've already paid for a portion of it and remember it's not City that's paying forward it's Jane's Corporation the the contractor who's paying for it okay well they're not who is paying because if there's been a designated amount Saint Jane's then um I just want to make sure that they that we do get them and they're pushing them they they said we're sending an email every single day they still have the completion date as uh the end of December James is still saying that the substantial completion date so um I I don't understand how they're still saying that but they still say that they hope they can get it done by well and I think that's because they're supposed to I think that's the contract I was going to say it's a contractual issue so long as there's substantial performance there's no breach so that's what it is thank you Clint thank you madam chair thank you I appreciate we do want to know it's depressing but it's good to know so thank you um okay that brings to an end the reports and presentations section uh everyone on the board is all right we will move on to our next discussion item which is related to our regularly scheduled meeting on Thanksgiving morning sophomore-ish I think as winner next month so I'll meet you here for turkey breakfast so I think Clint I know you had some some insight or some ideas for what because the next two months the ascmv board meeting falls on days that would be during holidays so is there anything that's urgent where we'd have to meet for those two months or is it are we mandated by any the jpa states that we meet monthly yes ma'am wow we can meet via's oh man no So currently your the next board meeting is November 24th which was said was is Thanksgiving and then the 29th of December is the next one which I think that December one no way I'm sorry that is every third Thursday right no fourth so it would be the 22nd no one two oh you're you are correct I was wrong so that one we can keep uh the December one correct it's not well that's the that's the question to to all um do we want to it's not I don't think that our holiday that the holiday break starts until the Friday I think um I can tell you in years past Madam chair they have changed both whoops both meetings so and we also have just as a note a scheduled sort of strategic planning meeting on a Wednesday on your calendars I think for Wednesday November 30th on a day that that we could reserve here at the city but that's a separate meeting for us to to be getting together um so I sort of Look to You All rescheduling both so that would be something like the 17th and the 15th of November if we went with the same day of the week in the same time 17th of November is just a week earlier so it's the third Thursday police board member Sanchez just uh I don't know if I could float this idea if we're really going to have our meeting on the 30th could we theoretically move basically instead of having a full meeting like this the meeting in closed session or the work session that we're planning that would take the place of our November meeting and we would just meet on the 30th yeah I don't know I don't know if that meeting would fulfill the the requirements for having this every month and also just as a note in the future jpa we should probably build in some room for I believe I'm sorry madam chair no no please I was just gonna say I think we were that was one of the the suggestions I think from Clint was that we meet quarterly in the new jpa so that would give more flexibility um so I would say I would ask if we could schedule I would lean toward keeping the 22nd but you said that lcps will be off so that creates lcps it'll be the last day for lcps is on December 16th oh okay for what it's time well then both dates would be I mean I think if you can make a quorum that'd be yeah so I would I would actually ask if we could keep the December date of the 22nd and move the November date to the week before on the 17th if that works for you all I mean it ish as much as moving a meeting can possibly work in all of our schedules okay well if everyone will not be here on the 22nd then we shouldn't plan for it no four I'm sure we could figure that one with only four I think we can do it okay well let's especially with Madam chair it could also be that we don't need a quorum to have a meeting you just need a quorum to make any decisions or action items yeah action items so if we could just meet and you could we could do our presentations just no action items as well I would I would like to keep that date than the 22nd and but then move November to the 17th um if that's possible which is just three weeks from now so the only the only hiccup on the 17th November the 17th is the availability of this room and we can work that out with the city okay pending of then we're gonna go ahead board member Madam chair and Clint I'm wondering if we can check now because the last time we did this and went and left that this room was not available and so I would like before we leave this meeting to see if there's the availability Eric's checking thank you Aaron and for what it for what it's worth on the 17th I believe the commission Chambers I'd have to get verification but if we needed to County Commission Chambers might be an upper an option as well because that will be the Planning and Zoning will be being before on the 10th of November and I think that's what held us up the last time is this is usually our meeting now is usually that second and for the fourth Thursday matches at the same time as Planning and Zoning okay so while that's sort of being figured out I would move on to the public input section and we'll we'll come back and revisit that um and finalize it before we leave so public input I hear it please Gene thank you I just want to say my apologies for presenting any inaccurate information I know we were kind of scratching our heads when I used that figure 70 000 and I admit I'm not good with numbers but the number is actually seven that when I said remove a digit I was right 7 000 uh veterinarian shortage Nationwide and I googled it to find out the reason and the reason is lack of vet schools along with the high cost of becoming event maintaining a practice and then of course many who incur that type of debt is you know reasons to some people don't enter enter the field so and then I just I had a question for Gino I know this is a public input time but in the city report there were 414 cats trapped and 80 were released I'm curious what happened to the 334 what their outcomes were so if you could answer that if that's okay I'd appreciate it thank you thank you Gene I just wanted to make sure that I have your question correct okay this is what you were reported that were trapped and then you said so I just wondered what happened to the other 334 the year numbers okay Madam chair members of the board to enter Gene's uh question what she was looking at was the total number of cats that we have impounded sorry about that the total number of cats that we've impounded for the year which was 414 and the number that we have released was 81. her question is what happened to the other 300 and okay 60 60. those were all taken to the Animal Service Center so then they would have been represented in the intake correct and and outcome data related yes CMP does that answer your question to you yeah we'll just have one more quick thing to it isn't really a response to Gino's but just that I wanted to say I was really happy to see the number of surgeries you know we were talking about uh you know you know Joe saying uh melee with broken promises that um what's whole you know or I must say holding them up but the re they could do more if um there were more slots I just I think that 400 number I believe it was Clint that you reported was was really good I don't know what the peak is I mean what what the highest we've ever done but can all things considered that was really good so thank you thank you Gene thank you Gino and I mean I think sort of your questions and thinking about this it's both heartening to hear the number it's it's disheartening and also heartening to hear that we're struggling in the same way that people across the country are struggling with both the way higher intakes and way fewer resources available for for surgery and and I think we're committed to doing everything we can to remediate that in our own in our own local jurisdiction but also acknowledging the bigger structural issues that that are continue to press on I think and and be very um disheartening overall so but thank you for providing that context yeah any other public input questions no Jerry Tina you guys are y'all are good okay no other hearing no other public input um are there is there any are there any more concrete answers about the 17th availability of the 17th oh yes thank you uh Madam chair and board the 17th is available Chambers are available from 9 A.M to 12 normal meeting even up to 5 30 if needed so let's book it till five no I'm just kidding Let's book it from from 9 to 11 which I'm trying to shoot for at most times so we'll thank you very much for looking that up and making that happen so the upcoming meetings for November and December will be November 17th and December 22nd um so thank you I'll expect a festive holiday um fun on the 22nd bring your ugly sweater bring your ugly sweater with cats on I I really am going to get a ugly sweater with cats on it because I have cats and I'm into that scene okay next up chair and board member comments it is I'm in for the challenge yeah um chair and board member comments I will start off just very quickly thank you to everyone who presented here today including the um folks from the shelter and Gene and it's been great to hear what all the extraordinary things that our community is doing and then also the ways that the shelter is adapting and growing um I did want to just put one quick note out there the uh firefighters Union did create a calendar and they are selling it right now on for um to raise money for the ascmv the the I've already pre-ordered my four calendars for everyone I to give to all the people I know I hope you all will consider getting the calendars that include firefighters and and dogs I think only dogs I don't know that there are any cats making appearances in this um only dogs and firefighters for the shelter uh they're they're available for pre-order online and then next Wednesday um at andale's dog house they're actually having a launch event where uh firefighters will be doing the serving of of the food and drinks at on delays and giving out the calendar so um what at the doghouse at the dog house uh it's at uh I think it's around dinner time six-ish I'll look really quickly but five so that's next Wednesday 5 p.m yes the uh November 2nd um and I can send you to the link so that you can sign up if you want to I'll send you the link but generally speaking I hope to see people there I'm really looking forward to it so that's all the comments that I have for today I look toward down the board to see any additional comments board member Sanchez thank you madam chair board member Gandara thank you madam chair I do want to say that the stats this month they're real staggering with the population creeping up gosh I can't even remember maybe early on when I first became a member of this board that we saw those kinds of stats um and so I'd like for us to really think about some strategies on how we can reduce that I think a lot of it is around educating our community continuing with some of the programming that we have done microchip vaccinations spayed and neuter um and just educating the community about import how important it is to be a responsible pet owner I know that many of the our two acos from respectfully from the city and the county are have been down vacancy with vacancies and I know that we put a lot of pressure and a lot of onus on new responsibility to educate the public but I think I'd like to see a huge lift from the center in educating maybe getting our Ad Agency out here looking at what we could possibly do to do that and I am very um I'm challenged with that it it has sat very differently today for me and and I think we really need to as a board look at what we might do to really reduce that and then I'd like to wish our vice chair Manny Sanchez a happy birthday today so please join me in wishing him a happy birthday um sorry Manny I had to do it um and with that I'll turn it back over to you madam chair thank you board member kandra and happy birthday happy birthday board member Sanchez I would have given you a harder time had I known that earlier so probably good we just found out board member Ellens please nothing board member Flores [Music] happy birthday Manny hey thank you thank you I won't charge for that um but uh yeah I I too was uh I always and every time I see Gene I think of cats I think of animals that you know are out there I look at my own little dog and um and I I think that um we you know it's maybe has been said before it's nothing new we just I think that animals humanize us I think that you know they bring out the most tender feelings and frankly I like them better than I like some humans but I just want to thank everybody at the Animal Service Center and we're working so hard and everyone in the audience who is here who has worked very hard at making our community um very Humane by caring about our our animals and thank you madam chair thank you board member Flores board member Enriquez yes thank you madam chair and happy birthday Michelle Sanchez um no I'm not going to sing because I I will have to charge him just joking um now I wanted to bring up an item that has been pending and outstanding is the TNR handbook that we've been working on the subcommittee uh provided a lot of input on that and we we want to meet with them on Tuesday we're going to have a meeting Mr Thacker has done some research on what is most current and best practices so what we want to do is have a meeting and combine those so that we can come up with a good product a Good Handbook with the intent to finalize it here soon and get something that's going to work out for this community thank you thank you board member Enriquez board member Ward uh yes thank you um happy birthday um just real quick I think it is I'm glad you said you talked about the educational Outreach it is important um I know the county has done a few more educational Outreach events including picking up the community sweeps that we have started back in where we have partnered with our codes department and gone into the communities and educated the communities out there with resources like we did with the aces project as well as going into like the fair and whatnot for educational Outreach going into the new ordinance that's going to be something that's we're going to highlight and really Target because the Outreach is going to be isn't going to be important in regards to that so you'll be seeing a lot of that in in a lot more so with that awesome thank you so much we appreciate it any other comments from the board anyone here seeing none um again just to follow up the November 17th December 22nd the calendar release party um I still don't know what time of day it is but I think it's at it's at five five it's at five on the latest are you sure I thought I heard 6 30. no five okay no five yes it starts at five Madam chair if I made Clint Thacker I I just want to caution that I believe this was a private a private party and you had to buy tickets to get in and most of them are sold out so I just want to be sure nobody shows up hoping to see firefighters and oh yeah sure and just so you know I am not in the calendar so if you need to return the calendars I understand thank you for that clarification clarification it is a private event but it looks like tickets are still available from their website right now so if you want to want to go so I did yes all right hearing no other inputs thank you for that clarification I would entertain a motion to adjourn so moved second by Flores moved by board member Sanchez second by board member Flores please remember Flores yes yes board member Ellens yes board member Sanchez yes chair karon yes we are adjourned