foreign [Music] foreign good morning welcome to the Animal Services center of the Messiah Valley board of directors meeting but I ask you to join me in the Pledge of Allegiance please foreign [Music] the Quorum certainly uh board member Delon present thank you board member Ward present uh board member Macias is absent former Flores is absent board member Sanchez president here board member Hernandez here chair Quran here you do have a quorum thank you um next up I'd hear any changes or updates to the agenda or a motion to approve please so moved second moved by board member Gandara seconded by board member Sanchez any edits comments hearing none uh Becky please form a reward yes former Sanchez yes remember Hernandez yes chair Quran yes thank you next up I'll give you a few minutes um to check out the minutes from our December board meeting uh I think that Clint won the ugly sweater contest and this isn't in the minutes but we'll you know make a friendly amendment in our heads to to remind ourselves that Clint is the reigning champion of the ugly sweater contest and other than that I would entertain a motion to approve or hear any edits I'll move approval of the minute moved by board member Sanchez seconded by board member Gandara any other notes hearing none Becky please thank you board member Ward yes former Sanchez yes yes remember Hernandez Epstein thank you chair Quran yes thank you all right thank you next up we'll hear the from Michelle Correa I'm glad that you please come on up from the cat's meow state your name officially for the record and I think that you're a presentation um is the first one so thank you Bernice it's great to see you good morning Michelle thank you good morning everyone seems like I just saw you all like a month ago hope everyone had a good holiday refresh my memory on how to make this big the social PDF slash slideshow oh okay cool thanks guys appreciate that I just scroll down okay uh so I'm here to give a presentation about uh the cat's meow resource and Adoption Center it's gonna be just a very quick little slideshow we opened our doors in October of 2014. we actually started making preparations to open this facility in the late fall of 2013. at that time Jake Sims was actively involved with this organization and as many of you may know he was a realtor and he had secured this piece of property which we still are at today we wanted something that had fencing and was somewhat secure since these animals were going to be unattended for a portion of each day and Jake did a great job in finding this property for us took us a little while to kind of get it into shape it used to be the Green Thumb Nursery on Mesquite Street so some Renovations had to be done but once that happened we moved in and immediately started taking kitties in and we haven't stopped this is just a little picture of what it looked like that hasn't changed a whole lot if you walk in today it looks pretty much that way we do currently have about 80 cats in Residence about half our youngsters and the other half are older kitties our initial Focus was on older and special need cats but when covet came everything kind of changed and there were a lot of kittens that needed help and so we since then continue to take in a lot of kittens as many as we can possibly manage and all of our adoptable kitties are on our pet finder site we actually have a volunteer who used to volunteer with us physically but she moved to Aztec and she still maintains our social media thank goodness from a distance and she does a great job so those sites the Pet Finder and our Facebook are pretty much updated on a daily basis oh did it again dang it oh okay we have a lot of great volunteers takes a lot of folks to clean these litter boxes and keep these cats happy and healthy we have two shifts our first shift is from ten to one and then our afternoon shift which isn't quite as physical the morning shift does a lot of the cleaning the afternoon shift does Special Projects we are open uh four days a week in the afternoons and so we have visitors from one to four on Tuesday Thursday Saturday and Sunday and those days can be fairly busy so the afternoon volunteers on those days take care of the visitors facilitated options things of that nature it's a little bit longer shift because we actually close our doors at four but then the cats have to be fed litter boxes have to be re-scooped so if you're lucky you get out of there about 5 30 if you're on an afternoon shift and all of our shifts generally have somewhere between three and four volunteers we're very very lucky we have wonderful volunteers nobody at our organization gets a dime it's an it's all volunteer organization um with covid and with the volume of animals coming in that needed vetting we reached out to Dr Starr of Paws and Hooves in El Paso and we started doing clinics with her doing somewhere around 35 to 40 cats a month the number 3000 is actually a little bit misleading because that includes when we were working with big kitty fix and Markman and I were involved with the no kill Coalition we were actively involved in big kitty fix and so that number is those cats plus the cats that we have done plus about another 470 that we did last year so around 3 500 cats between big kitty fix and Cat's Meow have been spayed or neutered probably during the covet period between August and December 2020 to 2023 about 60 percent of the kitties that we vetted were are in-house cats we gave the remaining slots to community we didn't give them they paid a co-pay if they were able to to help us manage those expenses because these clinics cost somewhere around twenty six hundred dollars a piece and so we would help people if we could but we if if they were able to help us we we worked together and we were able to help them get their cats fixed including some tea in our cats last year we found homes for almost 500 cats and kittens that doesn't include we did a few transports into Colorado and so if you take that into account we actually did exceed 500 as far as cats and kittens going into new good homes um this isn't cheap rescue work is very expensive our expenses last year were over two hundred fifty thousand dollars as was the previous year we have wonderful donors we do a few fundraisers and we manage to squeak by every year so we feel very fortunate to be able to continue to do this work we did raise our adoption fees this year for the first time since we opened we now charge seventy dollars for a fully vetted cat um just with their cost of everything going up we needed to raise our fees just a little bit we do offer return guarantee on our cats whether it's a week or five years from the time somebody adopts from us if things aren't working out or Life Changes which we know that happens and these cats need to come back we require that they come back to us that's part of the contract and we take them back and find them another home um and there's been a few cases where we've actually repossessed a few cats when we found out that they were not abiding by our contract so we're pretty serious about making sure that our cats are cared for that's just a picture of our little Desert Garden one of our volunteers Ron who sort of built this thing from the ground up and he tends it and loves it and we all enjoy it so we appreciate his hard work and appreciate everybody's hard work at cat's meow it really does take a village to take care of these animals and we hope you all come by and see us one of these days thank you do you have any questions thank you so much Michelle are there any questions from the board reporter member Sanchez and board member Gandara please and not just a not a question as much as a comment and I know um my family was lucky enough that we adopted a kitten uh from you all last year and so she's uh running wild through uh the house and was very uh she was very appreciative of having a Christmas tree this year oh yeah so cats love Christmas trees but she's uh I hope you um decorate them oh that that is there's a few less ornaments to put away this year so but yeah no she's it's been great and we've appreciated um you know I know when when they came it was it was a surprise for me for my birthday and so um you know but so my family got to visit you're all uh the facility and and really enjoyed it so thank you so much thank you for all you do in the community we appreciate folks like you we couldn't do it without good volunteers good adopters donors it it really does take a lot of moving parts to keep it moving so so thank you very much thank you thank you madam chair thank you board board member please thank you thank you so much for your presentation I don't have quite the story as um board member Sanchez has I'm allergic to cats unfortunately but I so appreciate you coming and participating and all the work as you know um in in the city of Las Cruces we've had some issues with our feral cat population and a troubling start to our TNR program but I think we got it off the ground and people are starting I think the program is starting to gain traction so we get a lot of calls from people who are very interested in doing TNR so it's just a matter of you know getting those vet resources together to make that happen where it's more affordable yes absolutely and so I know I was in a evening meeting with Jardin De los Ninos for their flourishing families program and one of the mentees works in managing mobile home parks and one of the things that she brought up as issues was the problems with feral cats running around and and just animals in general and so we spoke of the programming and all the advocacy at work that is happening around that and so what sort of programming do you have educating Community about um TNR and the importance of that we don't really have a formal program but I I basically take the majority of the phone calls that come into the center my number is all over our social media if people call me um I I basically do the best that I can to give them their options as far as managing uh you know the the feral cat population and mobile home parks are a Mecca and the acos can probably speak more to that than I can but cats because those trailers have skirting generally they're really great for shelter and protection for these cats and so they're everywhere in these parks and if there was a a way to go in and just trap that Park out and you know get those cats sterilized that would go a long way to helping solve some of these issues because a lot of the kittens that end up at our place and I know at the shelter and other rescues are The Offspring of these cats out yes and these cats can have up to four liters a year yes I know I know and then you start reproducing at a very young age so things get crazy very very quickly exactly and that's what I've told her and she's very interested in you know training up her residence and making sure that people are aware that there's these service providers out there that can help sort of mitigate that that issue so again thank you so much for the work that you do I really appreciate it thank you thank you all for thank you madam chair have a great day thank you thank you Michelle we really appreciate you and your ongoing work yes I agree I applaud yeah thank you um next up we'll hear from from city and county acos you all decide who gets to go first I think I can see there's some discussion happening okay our County ACS please come on up right good morning good morning Madam chair and the rest of the board my name is Brian Hulsey I'm the caseworker for donana County Animal Control here to give you the December report if I can bring this up that goes okay so for donana County we had 226 reported straight animals out of those 226 reported Strays we were able to pick up 157 stray animals it ended up being 73 stray cats and 84 stray dogs they were almost pretty close even this in December which is odd for us we had eight sick or injured animals that were picked up three of them were cats and five for dogs and as our trend for December due to Christmas and the holidays we had an above average number of owner-surrendered animals we had one cat and 19 dogs so this is our reported straight animal call for your comparison for everyone to see as you can see um for 2022 it was wasn't really as as active as we were in like 2019 um but we we still had some pretty high numbers this is our four-year field return to owner comparison chart this is um dogs or cats that we were able to pick up find microchips or find the owners and return them in the field so they didn't have to go to the shelter we had 22 for December um these are additional animals picked up so again we had one owner surrendered cat and it was for attacking livestock we had an owner surrendered 19 owners surrendered dogs eight sick and injured we had two welfare hold and again that's for if a sheriff's deputy or border patrol or anybody ends up stopping someone and they have animals in their unit or in the car and they're going to seize the car and the person then we come and pick up the animals as a welfare hold um we had no neglect or cruelty cases we had six shelter quarantines we had zero home quarantines we currently have six animals in our live evidence facility we had one rapey submission which turned to be negative for rabies and then we added a new slide for the board we've been doing this since I was an officer but we just now this month started to track them we had 39 diverted intake so that way we had 39 animals or people that we were able to give extra resources to where we didn't have to end up picking up the animal and taking them to their shelter these are districts and these are our stray animals picked up by District in district one we had two dogs in District Two we had nine cats and 15 dogs District three we had seven cats and 25 dogs and District Four was our hot District again we had people starting to capture and trap cats again in that area so our number went up pretty high for cats being caught so we had 44 cats and 21 dogs in District Five we had 10 cats and 12 dogs District Six was pretty quiet for us in December we only had one cat and District Seven we had two cats and nine dogs which was pretty slow for district seven as well so these are our stray cats by District again you can see that District Four usually has the biggest uptick for trapping cats that seems to be our trouble area for all the feral cats these are straight dogs and these are reasons for release of ownership so we had two where the people were unable to care for the animals we had six dogs come from Rome property because they had way too many dogs and even with a multi-site permit they were still way over their dog limit so they ended up giving up six uh we had eight that were either vicious for attacking animals people or livestock for eight and just for that one as a note as well I believe four of those dogs were the dogs attacking their own livestock the same owner's livestock so they just got rid of their dogs we had two sick or injured one aggressive and one was abandoned at a rental property and for that I'll stand for any questions thank you Brian any questions from the board board member word um it's not a question I just wanted to add it I'm not sure what board meeting or somebody asked it might have been commissioner Ellens at the time in regards to the educational Outreach that the the County Animal Control Officers were were doing at the time and I had asked um um Brian Hulsey to compile those stats they weren't put in the report but I did want to to let the board know as of last year anyways um the officers did um put out 2994 educational Outreach that didn't include any kind of community sweeps or anything like that that was just the times that they were at someone's house talking to them reaching out to them to educate them on whether it was a cat incident or a dog incident whatever that may be but 2994 times that they reached out to them that superseded the amount of times that they actually went out for calls for service because you know they might have initiated something where they saw something or maybe we had calls in the office something like that I did want to add that that's great thank you and thank you for sharing any other questions from the board seeing none thank you good morning Madam chair members of the board my name is Gino Jimenez I am the animal control supervisor for the city and I will present to you our December 22 numbers well if I can get us started here we go so for the month of December we were we responded to 394 straight calls 223 of those were Goa meaning the officer did not make contact with that animal we were able to apprehend 171 animals of those 108 were dogs and 29 were cats that were impounded at the Animal Services Center we were successful in field rtoing 34 dogs and those were animals I should say those are animals that never crossed the threshold of the Animal Service Center so it helped to reduce the number of animals being housed there we were unsuccessful in field RTO in 17. those were animals that had some sort of identification however for unknown reasons or reasons that I'll come up with in my slides later on why they were impounded so that gave us a total of 51 identifiable animals next is our three-year stray comparison so you can see for the month of December we had 394 bringing us to a total of 5691 calls for stray animals for the year looking at the chart it's pretty we keep within that Trend if we look at charts from the past I believe it's all going to be about the same our hot months March through September are really active and then October November December January we kind of slowed down a little bit here is our three-year field RTO comparison again we were able to fill our to 34 dogs bringing our total to 491 for the year is our community cap program graph for the month of December we were we responded to 27 cats in trap calls and we were able to release four of those cats so our total for the year for calls was 506 556 and we were able to release 102. reasons for owner releasing animals we had three for aggression three dogs for aggression one dog for sick uh an old one the owner no longer wanted it because it kept escaping one dog for Behavioral issues and one cat for six or old here are reasons for not being able to fill the RTO again 13 there was no contact at by phone or at the residence one was in Arizona address one was a county address and one was Alto New Mexico address uh one owner we were able to contact and they claimed that they were out of town one it was a wrong number and there still was no contact at the residence one the owner claimed to have owner released it today to the Animal Service Center so that tells us that that chip was not updated with the new owner's information and the last one was the owner claimed to have given it away and didn't have information as to who they gave it to and with that I was down for any questions any questions from the board no thank you very much thank you I appreciate it next up are the shelter statistics please director Thacker thank you thank you madam chair ascnv board thank you for uh being here today we'll talk to you about our December numbers and I apologize the jacket but it's kind of chilly in here I'm Gonna Take It Off so the current number now at the center 365 is the current count so 329 dogs 36 cats and luckily we have no others which are usually guinea pigs so glad that they are all unhappy homes our December intake numbers into 2022 for December 414 dogs came in 231 cats nine others well that grand total of 654 is the highest we've been since 2019. and this is how the animals came into the center this is a relatively new slide that we added so you can see that over half of our animals came in by Strays by Animal Control Officers which means they're doing a great job one that's surprising to me as always is the owner's surrender and how high that is the almost 17 percent of our total intake was owner surrender so we continued to battle that fight um and we can go over that a little bit later we had a total of eight animals returned uh most of them are almost all of them were dogs so the biggest one being the landlord doesn't allow and some lifetime changes behavior issues ETC we had 258 diverted intakes what these are are these are when somebody comes to the center they either usually it's a stray animal that they find um or it could be an owned animal and we asked can you hold on to that animal a little bit longer um you know walk around your neighborhood see if somebody takes it and if they say yes then that's a diverted intake so just any intake that comes in and we divert it away from the center we count as a diverted intake there's our outcomes we ended with a 78.7 percent live release rate and that's the number of animals that left the center alive out of our December numbers our biggest percentage of the way they left is through adoptions we had 222 and the next being the rescued at 27.4 percent so almost that 79 percent even though we had more animals come in the center or our highest intake in December since 2020 or 2019 we still are right there with last year or in that 80 79 percentile if you remember a live release rate the goal we want to hit is always 90 percent that's what qualifies us as a no-kill facility that's the number we always strive for so in 2020 we did hit that at 90.1 percent however 2020s when we had an incredibly limited intake because of covid and we were able to reach that transfers continue this is our rescues in other words can continue to be an incredible way we get number adults out both dogs and cats 179 and this is where they went so we again action program for animals did a fantastic job taking their local rescue uh and we sure appreciate all that they do for taking animals from us usually they take the um the medical issue once so that creates lowers our our euthanasia rate which also helps increase our live release rate but uh and bottom line it saves lives that's what we like to see some of our outside ones the out of state Halo animal rescue is always a big one they are back up and going and want to work with us and others that are out of state to continue to work Animal Rescue League El Paso is a great one too these are euthanasia reasons for December the number one for cats is behavior feral because of the change in the County ordinance we are having to euthanize the number of feral cats that is because of the two mile limit within the um Rio Grande so being able to relocate a cat is not you don't just go and drop it off somewhere else that is certain death for an animal so it takes months to relocate a cat and it's just resources we currently do not have so the best resource that we have currently for a feral cat that's something that two mile limit is euthanasia best for the cat and for us the number one reason for a dog is aggressive you know they're in that facility they're assaulted on all fronts by their senses sight smell Etc so the aggressive does come out on them and on those we we just can't hold on to them again we don't have the resources to work with them on a one-on-one basis so this is I know this looks really confusing but there's four categories TNR adoptions shelter and other and each line is a month in those categories so the one we're looking at is the one that has a number on top that's the 12th month or December and so they did 87 trap need to return they did 127 adoption surgeries 68 shelter or Foster and then 75 other other can be anything that needs to happen whether it be a broken leg or an amputation or stitches or fixing just anything that is another there so year to date they did 4474 so they met their goal the goal for the doctor hadn't has for them is 4 000 surgeries in a year so they overcame that did a fantastic job our visitors pretty steady and 1 623 uh this is December appointment or adoptions by appointment I think this is going to be the last time we have the slide starting in in 2023 when we report January numbers you will not see the slide in there just because I think that we are I mean we prove a point by saying that adoptions are the best way to do adoptions there so 62 percent of the appointments that were made ended in adoptions whereas the next slide you look at the walk-ins we had total number of groups is 360. and it only it resulted in 102 adoptions which was only 28.28 percent so but regardless we're still doing uh well on adoptions our volunteers continue to be a huge Source a powerful Source in getting animals out I know just a couple weeks ago they were able to get every animal and they are adoptable area walked so a total of 395 hours in December website page views 36197 as you can see they're pretty consistent Facebook views continue to to be pretty high ten thousand seven hundred and fourteen uh we get a lot of traction on several things that happened in December a lot of activities adoption you know we had the home for the holidays we had our foster program as well that have a big presence on Facebook some of our upcoming events we have Super Sunday Road Race So a fun race we're going to be doing on the fifth NMSU Basketball game are going to have an information booth there so people can ask questions about our facility about you know what we do we'll be there and answer questions our drive through vaccine clinic is this is the one we had to cancel is scheduled for February 19th and then the kitten baby shower a fun event for our foster program is February the 25th and there's Angel and Queen Catherine who are pets of the week I'll stand for any questions thank you Clint any questions from the board no seeing none thank you again Clint sharing and giving us up to date sort of picture next up are committee reports I um I'm going to take a little bit of chairs privilege and ask that the executive committee go first or say that the executive committee is going to go first in part because um I realized that I neglected to invite our two new board members to sort of introduce yourselves and and share who you are so I uh if if I can take a bit of chairs privilege I'll do that and then give the executive report and then turn it over to finance and Facilities so first off if you wouldn't mind introducing yourself please I am Christopher shelter Hernandez and I am the new uh newly elected County Commissioner for district one for doniana which is Picacho Hills all the way down to brino and I'm glad to be here thank you madam chair thank you and we're glad you're here and board member daily young please good morning and thank you chair for the opportunity Barbara de Leon I am the chief administrative officer for the city I very much appreciate the opportunity to serve on this board I've been with the city for almost a Lucky 13 years in a variety of positions looking at operations and financial performance for the organization so thank you very much thank you okay really quickly to the executive committee we did meet um earlier this month and on I think around January 3rd in the morning so thank you Clint for meeting with me we discussed the upcoming agenda the need to have the elections which you'll which we'll be having shortly of of new officers and also a number of other sort of things to follow up on including um the assess the the sort of evaluation of of the director as well as upcoming budget sort of planning very lightly and so I don't know if you want to add anything Clint then I will turn it over to board member de Leon as the for the finance committee report please thank you madam chair so the finance committee met last a Thursday the 19th and we heard the preliminary report from the very capable Josh saffel who's coming to the podium right now to provide you with the information for our December Financial so I'll turn it over to Josh good morning Madam chair members of the board my name is Josh saffell and on behalf of the finance department of the city of Las Cruces I'd like to present the unaudited financials as of December 31st 2022. so to start with we're looking at our statement of net positions in the general fund we had cash of 658 879 dollars uh receivables of 265 636 dollars giving us total assets of nine hundred twenty four thousand five hundred and fifteen dollars we had liabilities of a hundred and fourteen thousand eight hundred and eight dollars Revenue collected in advance of 249 280 and this left us with an unassigned fund balance of five hundred sixty thousand four hundred and twenty seven dollars moving on to our change in net position we see for the period total revenues of 2 million one hundred and forty five thousand one hundred and ninety dollars and total expenditures of one million eight hundred and seventy five thousand nine hundred and thirty seven dollars and after a transfer out of ten thousand five hundred dollars we see a net change to fund balance of positive two hundred fifty eight thousand seven hundred and fifty three dollars uh looking at our budget to actual change in net position the total revenues of 2.1 million were 51.7 percent of budget and the total expenditures of 1.8 million were 43.8 percent of budget so of course our budget parameter was fifty percent so our revenues were a little over which is good and our expenditures were under which is also very good looking at our graph for revenues versus expenditures by month we see the expenditures were well over the revenue the increase in expenditures is explained by a larger increase in the capital outlay there was a purchase of capital and that's basically why we see that jump in expenditures for that period looking at our percent of total expenditures our total expenditures were one million eight hundred and seventy five thousand nine hundred thirty seven dollars of that 52 percent was salary 18 were benefits 15 was excuse me 15 with Services 6.1 percent was Capital two percent was Insurance five percent was supplies one percent was other one percent was temporary services and point four percent was repair and maintenance and that will conclude my presentation and I stand for any questions thank you any questions from the board board member Sanchez please thank you madam chair um Mr staffel I just had a couple questions and it's just around uh you know the budget parameter is going to be 50 since we're Midway through the year and just um I was just curious particularly on the expenditure piece of it and why we were so low on um really on on the supplies as well as services and I don't know if um while that's always good to be below I didn't know are we is it either an overestimation are we just not um not having those expenditures as we originally planned or uh have we are we have going to have some big expenditures that are going to hit us within those two areas the supplies and services uh those are good questions I might turn to the department for their input thank you thank you Josh thank you for the question uh commissioner Sanchez yes the we have been watching our purchases on supplies very carefully because we knew that we have a new center that we need to equip we have made some major purchases on that that are going to be hitting that supply line so that will be coming up okay and I think like on the services piece I think we want to be I think we're almost uh about two hundred thousand dollars under what we thought at least on the budget parameter fifty percent so um we budget 902 000 we're 275 000. um I said is there anything that we were anticipating there or anticipate that is coming in the next half year or is this uh Services is a wide array of things so I I don't know especially if there's one specific or or several but we can look into that and let you know okay yeah and I think like I said I think if we're under and I mean like I said I know you're watching uh very closely particularly I know we've had the delay of the of the opening of the of the new uh building in the new center but um just we'll just kind of get an idea of Are We is that going to be an area that we will potentially be under or um if we're planning on something so like I said and you don't have to answer they said if you can just give me that information I just be okay yeah we'll look into it I can tell you that I mean we're going to be moving money around because of the purchases are significant but probably coming out of the services into supplies Etc but we'll look at it and let you know yeah and I think that's exciting I think that's where I was going to go with the thing because I think as we as we start to identify and we move into the to the new building obviously you're going to find little things here and there that you're going to realize that oh man we might have missed this or we need this or the price has increased and so this gives us that hopefully this gives us that that a little bit of uh cushion to be able to go into for that without having to make major changes so thank you sir thank you thank you madam chair thank you very much are there any other questions for Josh for board member de Leon no not for me thank you madam chair all right thank you very much thanks Josh we appreciate you next up facilities please board member Gandara we didn't meet this month um I don't know if Clint has an update on that but I will defer to him promise I'll get back on track not sure if you wanted to share any facility related updates Clint but uh thank you well the facility is looking fantastic how about that for an update we have a big beautiful building that is about 97 completed there are a lot of small items in that Center that are still not completed some places we don't have doors sometimes we have a door but not a window on the door some places the stucco's not finished I mean it's just so many little things that they're contractors so they're having a hard time getting their subcontractors out to finish just those little things however it's it's not an overwhelming issue because we still can't inhabit the building um we we have no cat kennels nor do we have any dog kennels so hopefully they're saying mid to end of March is when they're saying to have those items in so we're hoping for that as far as the existing Center we are holding off on doing any major fixes I mean we had a door that that got caught by the wind so the arm got bent so you know we're replacing that that was just last week we have just small things here and there but we don't want to invest a lot of money into it because we are looking to remodel substantially once we get word hopefully we get word that we were awarded some of that legislative money so we can get things started that's what we're hoping for so thank you thank you and board member de Leon do you have an update as well please I do thank you so much Madam chair I appreciate Mr Thacker reminding me that at the finance committee meeting we had a discussion about the financial reports that are provided to the board monthly there had been a proposal by the finance department to provide those reports quarterly because not much changes on a month-to-month basis but they're certainly very meaningful on a on a quarterly basis so just wanted to raise that as a potential for discussion for the board to make that determination or to determined to continue as we are currently doing thank you I I would say that I think quarterly would be um would be fine to have that conversation but I'd defer to my board member fellow board members if there are some concerns or things that you would add to that conversation Madam chair I think I'd agree I think the only time that we might deviate from that is if there's something significant within the finances but otherwise I'd agree with that assessment any other sort of inputs or considerations and my understanding is you all would still be meeting and having those conversations just that the presentation would only come to the board once every three months um Madam chair I think that's wise I and I I agree with board member Sanchez if if there is something of concern we will certainly uh present that to you at the committee report but otherwise the formal financial statements uh would just be provided quarterly and Clint and Josh please uh correct me if I'm wrong in medicine yes correct thank you and thank you for that recommendation board member Gandara go ahead I'm okay with that I think that's um probably much more feasible for the finance department to put everything together and present I wonder if I don't know what that major thing would be we're running out of money I mean if there's some maybe some headers that we can suggest that these are the events that we would need them to come back into the to present to the board and I don't know Madam chair if you want to speak at your executive level about what those are and then come back and present those to us but okay I I think that in the event these three things happen they will come monthly to us or alert us in some way and I would I would imagine you're sort of go ahead board member Julian um thank you madam chair yes and I I wanted to note of course we will be looking at the the guides that we have for expenditures on a monthly basis if we see significant deviations um that's something that we would bring forward but also as Mr Thacker mentioned earlier as we see preparation for the new facility coming up to speed um and and that's something that we understand it's not a concern uh we may mention that but um again we're going to be looking for the kind of standard parameters that we measure our expense our expenditures by but very much welcome guidance from the board as far as the certain particular things to be keeping an eye on thank you I also want to remind the board that the city is going into a budget retreat in February I think this meeting happens after that budget Retreat so Clint if you have anything you think needs that the Board needs to be aware of specific City Council Members we need to be aware of that so that we can advocate for that at budget retreat thank you I I believe if I remember right Leanne de mooch with the budget was saying that the retreat is in like the first part of March because I told her that we are going to be presenting the budget to the board for in February so it's okay so I forgot I'll talk to her about the retreat and we'll for sure get something together if we need to do a workshop or a you know a special board meetings you can have the information for the budget because we do have some like new position that we're requesting we have a salary increase possibly for the staff for like a cola cost of living adjustment things like that that I think the board should be aware of before we go into any major you know before we present the budget in a formal manner you should be aware of so I'll work with her on that states okay thank you thank you madam chair thank you um board member de Leon and then board member Sanchez please thank you madam chair so the retreat will actually be in in February um it'll be a two-day retreat but I just wanted to make note that we also have two work sessions scheduled on the budget one for March and one for April as well in addition to the the May meeting where we typically adopt the budget so we definitely will make time at the work sessions to give a an update on how the jpa budgets are looking at the retreat itself we are allowing some time for some key City departments to give a more in-depth information about their budget proposals as well but we have the additional work session schedule where we'd be able to discuss jpa budgets thank you and and I would say I think um sort of to Clint's idea of giving some some precursors I think uh it would be great to for for the board to see a preliminary sort of sense of you know any added staff or big changes that you might be considering I think that's important to bring here also to sort of make sure that those conversations are happening everywhere and that we have all the information and if they're that way if there are any data points that we feel like would add to that conversation we can we can sort of put that out there on that and request it from from you all as you go through it please board member Sanchez thank you madam chair and I think all this discussion is uh very important I think also on the county side one of the things that hopefully I'm not speaking uh too far ahead but I believe uh commissioner Sheldon Hernandez and I uh where he would agree with me that we've already been talking with the county manager that we are wanting to have these discussions on the county level as well looking at developing our budget and having more input similar to what the uh the city has been doing and so Clint that'll be kind of having an idea whether you know you bring have something for us I don't know I don't know the structure yet we're still working that out but I if we can start looking at that and what your needs are then that way we can um the the County Commission can start looking at those requests and we can start looking to see what we can do going into the next fiscal year thank you commissioner and just so you know where we're at in our budget prep so level two I'm sorry level three is where the director enters in the recommended the big items are increased to the budget and that's where we currently are Level I have a meeting on February 1st with the city representative to go over those level three asks so once those are completed and in then it's as early as February 1st then I'll be able to get a work session together with the board I mean so the budget is and how much once you think that we're not working on it yeah we're definitely in the process of yeah and I think it'll just once we know have a better idea we'll communicate with you Clint just so that way you're you're aware of kind of what we're looking for and when we'd be looking to have your input as well but I just want to let you know as well that that's something we're trying to push for on the county side to be able to have that input before the preliminary budget is proposed in the end or for to the commission for approval so thank you yeah thank you very much any other questions from the board all right Clinton uh next up we have a discussion item related to to the mou um with donieri County Humane Society who we heard from I think last month at our at our meeting yes ma'am chair uh so the mou you have before you is more or less a it's so the we decided to do mou while talking with them because we do so much with the doniana county Humane Society that it was brought up by them it says why don't we have an mou to show that we're working together I think they'll protect or that would assist both of you and we and we agreed on that so we sent it to our attorney and he was in agreement with it and checked it off sent it to them they signed it and sent it back to me now if you recall several years ago we were when we were redoing the contracts with some of the outlying Cities the board did give me approval to sign mousse with other government entities or other entities but I wanted to bring this to you just so you were aware that we had an mlu together and working with the doniana county Humane Society all right thank you and again I don't my understanding is that this as an mou is not something that we would officially approve but I think that this is just in the in an effort to sort of make it transparent and make sure that we all know what's happening in terms of all right thank you very much any questions discussion concerns all right Harry none next up in terms of action uh we're needing to elect officers again to sort of take for February to to start the ground running as as a new slate of officers and tradition has been that we've shifted between the city and the county on an annual basis I and I think that there is General consensus that that's the the plan this year again okay I see heads nodding given that we have two positions chair and vice chair and then we also will follow up with Committee Member appointments so I would entertain a motion to for the next uh chair of of the ascmv board I think I do it by entertaining emotion or a self-nomination nomination I nominate board member Manny Sanchez for chair second of this nomination second okay board member Sanchez do you accept this nomination I do yes okay then are there any other nominations hearing none um Becky if we can please vote for the chair board member Sanchez from reward yes board member Sanchez yes foreign yes remember Hernandez yes chair karon yes uh do I just hand it over right now to you no I'm just kidding I'll go through to to the end uh all right I think that we also need to elect a vice chair which uh has historically been switched again complimentary County city folks in those two positions so I would entertain any motions for would it be completely inappropriate if I nominated Iman yes she's not here um I'm worried about her actually I've put out some feelers but I'm not sure um yes I'll put my name out there I guess okay I'll second the nomination uh there's a move and second for board member Gandara to the vice chair and the second from from board member Sanchez any other nominations thank you board member Gandara all right hearing no other nominations please for vice chair remember Ward yes former Sanchez yes former Gandara yes remember Hernandez yes chair Quran yes thank you very much and then to the Committee Member appointments this is something that we sort of I think have the discretion to do I recommend that we sort of follow in the tradition that we have going which is the finance sort of does stay with with board member de Leon just because she she also works really closely with budgeting and finance the fiscal agents of the city um if if unless there's any input from the board contrary to that the executive committee is is typically Jared by the chair so board member Sanchez are you all right exactly thank you and then the facilities committee I'm not sure if board member gun that I would like to stay chair if you if someone else would like to to stay in there you're you're okay with representing on the facilities okay oh go ahead please it's me sorry um I I just want to note that the bylaws do state that the city does the city ex-official member is the one that's over the finance committee and then the ex-officio member is over the facility now in years past it's been whatever whoever the board wants to do and I I love working with councilor Gondola so if I don't have any problem working with her and I'd love to but that's the bylaws state that and so I'll go either way I'm good oh which okay I I think I I think to keep sort of separate voices board member daily on i i would support board member Gandara sort of staying in that position just because I think it's good to have different folks having conversations along the way if that's okay with you all um so okay thank you then the committee sort of leadership is is established thank you for stepping up those of you who who have next step is public clarification Madam chair and the executive is it both the chair and vice chair that need to attend those meetings or usually yes it is the chair and vice chair but for the last year for the vice chair hasn't really been in attendance but yes okay the vice chair is is okay and we've been having those meetings via Zoom um so okay in addition that it's also the past president who's a member of the executive committee as well yes you're not off the hook yet all right then yes thank you for clarifying that and Madam chair do we have to have a motion to ratify those I I think there are appointments which it may or may not [Music] vote on this slate which is finance Barbara de Leon executive many Sanchez and Facilities Cassandra gandra if that's okay I would entertain a motion Madam chair oh go ahead I so apologize for interrupting but I noticed that for the finance committee it says it will consist of one non-voting representative from either the city or the county that would be myself and one voting member of the board and so I wanted to clarify whether there was an additional appointment that I missed it it would be one of the members so we have you as the chairs the ex-official member and then you have a county member and a chair or a county and a city member on each committee is how I read it and I don't recall sorry madam chair to jump in I don't recall if commissioner Allens had been previously on the on the finance committee okay so it was actually appointed by Mr Macias that Mr Macias Jonathan Macias be on it because he was on the invites and then also Yvonne Flores was from the city and she was on it as well so so the language just States one non-voting member from either the city or the county and one voting member of the board that those are just two people to the finance committee from the board and I believe it says later on for the finance or for the facility committee it says the remaining non-voting member yeah so I took that to be as the ex-official members or the non-voting numbers that's correct okay but for finance it just looks like we need one uh ex-officio member that would be me and then one uh member of the board which would be probably board member of Macias or or Council Flores I believe unless unless with her not being here do we want kids without either of them are here representative on it so probably okay and I think it would be I would uh I wouldn't be opposed to having uh the county manager Macias and then councilor Flores as those members on the finance committee as well if there are no objections to that but my understanding is it's actually not County Manager Messias it's it's assistant County Manager correct messiest different one who also serves as an ex-official or is designated as an ex-officio I think so board member Flores would be the voting member and so maintaining those two neither of whom are here to consent on the board on the finance committee rather I hear them yelling yes from a distance okay does that have a so that does that sound like that fills in the finance committee ish okay thank you madam chair just for clarification we have the chair is Miss de Leon and then the county is Jonathan Macias and the city is Yvonne Flores is that correct yes the other and clarifications about the committee members okay hearing none I would entertain a motion to sort of appoint these as a slate of folks I'll move approval Madam chair of those appointments thank you second Gandara thank you by board member Sanchez seconded by board member Canada any further discussion and this is just for the finance committee correct this is for all three committees okay who else is on the facility committee then I have councilor Gandara is the chair who's the representative from the county I'd recommend that commissioner Hernandez I'm spacing Hernandez what what is it Hernandez [Music] and I'm sitting I don't know what happened I just said brain fart because I would recommend that he sit on the facilities committee okay Chris is a voting member all right and as the facilities okay admittedly um no you're good and admittedly we've been struggling with the committee attendance over the last year so I think that it will be it's helpful to reaffirm this this and make sure that we know who's there board member Sanchez please were you going to say something oh no you're ready to vote no I just didn't know if we have to now retract do we have to remove the motion or is the motion still acceptable I would say that uh the motion is still acceptable okay cool okay do we we're good on the motion yes then I call the question former Ward yes former Sanchez yes foreign thank you madam chair if I may I just want to let the board know that I will be canceling the all the meetings and then rescending with new committee members okay so don't be alarmed if you get a cancellation we will do it at the same time okay okay thank you it's public input I will start on my left hearing any Jerry's taking her head any other public input Tina Michelle no no seeing none on the left seeing only staff on my right then that ends public input chair and board comments I'll start at the far end board member de Leon please uh thank you madam chair um no comments for me other than again to just express my gratitude for the opportunity to serve thank you very much thank you board member Ward please no comments board member Sanchez just happy New Year everybody and welcome to our new board members and uh it's definitely been an exciting meeting so far so thank you and we'll look forward to February board member Gandara happy New Year and I look forward to the coming year um getting into our new facility That's so exciting yes thank you Boardman um chair board member Charlotte Hernandez please uh thank you for riveting uh meeting it's great to be here and learn and kind of go over the documents and excited to Surf thank you I feel the same we're really glad to have you all with us and I think it will be a great year did you have something to say I'm sorry yes no no please we Bernice and I were comparing notes and we have Mary Lou Ward as being on the facilities committee is that because she's an ex-official member is is that okay is that what you want okay yes and I feel like ex-officio members who are apart from the non-voting members I think that's kind of a different sort of role but that sounds very exclusive and good okay thank you all right any other comments for the good of the order and if not I would hear entertain a motion to adjourn so I moved moved by board member Sanchez second Gandara secondary board member please thank you former award yes former Sanchez yes yes former Hernandez yes chair Quran yes