for l [Music] good morning everybody it's 9:02 a.m. on September 28th 2023 and we'll call this meeting of the board of directors for the animal service center of the Mia Valley to order and if you all would rise and join with me in the Pledge of Allegiance please pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one indivisible andice thank you and if we can have a roll call please let say board member Ward is here board member Ben coml present board member answorth am I correct we are Weir I'm sorry my apologies board member Weir board member Flores here board member shayo Hernandez is absent board member Gandara is absent board member Kuran is absent chair Sanchez present we have a quorum thank you Becky all right then we're on to the approval of our agenda if I can get a motion in a second to approve the agenda so Mo a motion by Council fles second second by Miss Weir okay board member Beno we're approving the agenda I'm sorry approve yes ma'am board member Flores we're approving the agenda oh yes yes thank you chair Sanchez yes and I will mention that board member gondha has joined us good morning mayor Pro and I approve the agenda thank you all right the motion the agenda is approved 5 Z all right we'll move on to reports and oh sorry uh skipping ahead here all right we're on to the meeting minutes uh the approval of the minutes from the regular ascmv board meeting held on August 24th 2023 if I can get a motion in a second for uh discussion and approval please so move Gand I have a motion by mayor Pro Ganda I will second the motion on the approval of the minutes are there any comments changes to the meeting minutes all right not hearing or seeing any if I can get a roll call please on the minutes of August 24th 2023 board member we yes board member Flores yes board member gandera yes chair Sanchez yes and we welcome board member shayo Hernandez we're just voting on the minutes yes thank you all right thank you those meeting minutes are approved all right now we're on to reports and presentations from the city and county ACO I don't know officer Hy okay we'll start with the county ACO perfect good morning chair and members uh my name is Brian Hy I'm the case worker for Don County Animal Control here to give you the August 2023 minutes or presentation not minutes been a day already okay so for August we had 300 reported stray animals uh we were able to pick up 23 38 stray animals um out of those there were 92 stray cats and 146 stray dogs uh we had 13 sick or injured animals eight of them were cats and five were dogs we had 25 owner surrender animals and they were all dogs we had to jump in owner surrenders for August this is our reported stray animal calls for the fouryear comparison um we were pretty high for August um so I know you guys were probably asked the reason why we had so many stray calls um and so many picked up is because we're almost fully staffed so we have more staff to get to calls quicker so we we were able to re get to more calls as as we normally would have um our four-year field return um our field return for August was 21 um but that's going to be offset later in the presentation for our deferred intakes we had a pretty high number for deferred intakes so these are additional animals picked up so we had zero owner surrender cats we had 25 owner surrender dogs we had 13 sick or injured animals we had 12 welfare hold animals again that's if um a sheriff unit border patrol anybody that's detaining someone and they have animals um that's what those are usually for um we had two uh cruelty cases in August um with a total of three dogs for that uh we had zero shelter quarantines we had seven home quarantines um we had two cases and we are currently holding two animals at our live evidence facility a waiting for court proceedings we had one rabies submit um and it turned out negative and then again this is why we didn't have as many RTO return to owners um it's because we have 52 diverted intakes which is pretty high for us um that's the highest number I've seen since we started counting them um we had 473 education and our total calls was 861 for the month of August um this is our broken down for district for district one uh we had no cats and five dogs for District Two we had 17 cats and 14 dogs District three um we had 27 cats and 29 dogs that was one of our um main focus areas for August um District 4 um was another targeted one um we had 24 cats and 25 dogs and for some reason Anthony and burino um District 5 we had a very big uptake in stray dogs um for August we had 11 cats and 42 dogs District Six we had no cats and seven dogs and District s we had 13 cats and 24 dogs which is about normal for every month this is our straight cats picked up uh by district and these are straight dogs dogs picked up per District as you can see in District 5 it it got a pretty high rise in August and I'll go slow on this one uh this is our 25 Owner surrenders uh so we had three that they just weren't able to keep on the property and they didn't want to get citations so they owner surrendered them we had four that were involved in livestock or vicious attacks we had five that the people were uh unable to take care of them we had three that were aggressive we had two that were for behavior issues um again we had uh the two cruelty cases um the other dog was owner surrendered later um that was involved in the cruelty case uh we had two that they just didn't have time for the animals they didn't want them anymore so they owner surrendered them uh we had one where um the animal was not allowed at the woman shelter that they were going to so they had to owner surrender it if they were wanting to go to the shelter um we had one which was kind of odd for us um I guess they were letting the dog unrestrained and it kept bringing home dead animals so they didn't want that anymore so the owner surrendered it and then we had one um they say that the dog needed a better home so they owner surrendered it and for that it's time for questions are there any questions on the presentation I I have a question yes get the Flor please thank you uh Mr chair and thank you for your presentation so August there there was an extraordinary number of uh uh animals brought to the shelter was that it um or I mean that you I I wouldn't say that were brought to the shelter that I would say that was about average but we had an uptick in animals and certain districts um Anthony and burino um was a big district for us in August and I couldn't tell you why okay um the only thing I could think is that we were doing our ases project in that area um and so that got more attention and so people were calling in more in that area that would be the only thing that I could think of for that District okay thank you thank you for the explanation thank you Mr chair thank you Council flotes any other comments questions okay thank you survis menz good morning good morning sir how are you excellent how are you doing good good we're we're on Thursday it's almost Friday yes Friday Eve and I hope this loads here we go so good morning uh chairman members of the board my name is Gino henes I'm the animal control supervisor for the city I'm going to present to you our August numbers for 2013 2023 I said we want to go back to 13 so for the month of August we responded to 504 stray calls of those 242 were Goa we were able to apprehend 262 um of those 219 were impounded at the Animal Service Center 109 were cats excuse me dogs and 110 were cats we were successful in field ring 43 animals back to their owner out in the field um of those 14 were unsuccessful and those were animals that had some sort of identification however for some reason we weren't able to get it back to the owner so that gave us a total of 7 57 unident uh identifiable animals here is our three-year straight call comparison um again we did the 104 and for a grand total of 4,067 reported stays for the year so I was asked to include my pre performance report on the bottom of the slide so as you can see it on the bottom our goal is and always will be uh to secure at least 65% of our stray calls uh stray animals uh as last year uh last month I reported that we were able to meet that goal however uh we dipped down a little low this month and we were at 64.1 real close but we still haven't met that Mark here is our three-year field RTO comparison again we were able to RTO 43 giving us a grand total of 358 and again my PR performance is that we would uh be able to fill RTO 25% of all Strays that are captured and we were able to obtain a 13.7% success rate on that one our community cap program uh we responded to 58 cats and traps of those five were already marked for Community cats so we were able to release them again that gives us a grand total of 526 trap calls and uh 96 Community cats were released reasons for owner surrendering animals it's a big list again like it was last month uh eight dogs owners were unable to care for eight puppies owners were unable to care for four for dog bites three cats for lifestyle change uh they were expecting a newborn so they chose to give up the the cats three dogs for aggression three cats unable to care for three dogs uh injured two dogs were old a youth in Asia request uh two cats one bit the toddler and they also owner released four kittens with that that litter that mama cat one dog owner could not keep in the yard one cat sick uh euthanasia request one dog was sick a euthanasia request and one cat uh the owner was moving out of state and they determined that it would be too stressful for the cat to travel that far in a carrier um and one the landlord does not allow on their property next is our 14 reasons that we were unable to field our to in the field and coincidentally all of them were because there was no contact at home or at the residence which is a good thing kind of a good that means that every one of those 14 animals was identifiable either by a microchip or a tag so that's it's a bad thing that we weren't able to fill our tum but it's a good thing at least that they had some sort of identification and here are the last two measures of my Pak performance that aren't included in any slide uh number three is a 10% reduction of animal straight animal bite responses so for this month month for year to date we have a 29.4 increase per increase in stray animal bites as you can see from my report we've had 95 for this year and we had 67 last year number four is a 10% our goal is 10% reduction in owner victim bytes again we're at a 08 which is really close uh but we still haven't met our Mark of 10% we had 68 reported owner victim bites compared to last year at this time at 62 to so our total calls for the month we're at 1,220 bringing us to a grand total for the year at 9,613 highlights for the for the month uh we had no presentations this month however um we had 175 hours of training that went directly to the acos for their continuing education the majority of that was NAA training and with that all was time for any questions thank you g are there any questions Council fles thank you Mr chair and thank you uh officer uhis so um the 175 hours of of training uh how many officers participated over a period of how long chairman uh councelor FLOTUS that would be all eight of them um and I try to schedule it so that I still have coverage out in the field so it could be anywhere from two hours to five hours to a whole their whole shift would be sitting in the at the office doing that training and over a period of how many weeks or months that was an entire month oh that's a lot of time yes yeah good we really really strive on getting them as much training as we can and that's also not just na training that could be any kind of PD training that's required uh tourniquet training U uh deescalation training and then also the the required City training like your FMLA flsa those types of training that were required by the city and then um on the um in a situation where um the owner wasn't able to keep the puppies or cats puppy go back to that slide was it cats okay well whatever oh yeah cats the cat the cat litter um do you recommend uh was uh the uh litter born to the owner's cat or was it I mean I I don't want to assume that it was necessarily the O so was the owner of the cat who gave birth to all those kitties kittens um was do you do any education or do you encourage them to have them spay or anything like that absolutely however in this case because they bit the the toddler we at least had to take the bite cat and at that time it it was the mama cat um we can't separate the mama from the kittens so we have to take them all and then consequently there was another adult cat that they chose to give up as well oh so they gave up the entire kitten literally kitten kabo yeah okay and then um you know um and then um I think I think you see on page two maybe it was so you know I um maybe this is a yeah you had 504 reported stray animals for August but there's no reason is that different than any other go August I'm wondering if they're not getting attention they're hungry they're you know it's hot uh they're running off were you were you they were Strays and you weren't able to return any of them yes ma'am we were able to return the 43 43 out of yes 5 before or were they reoccurring maybe the same dog getting out all the time it it's hard to say if they're reoccurring because we don't keep that data oh okay um so the 504 is the total number of straight calls calls so that's the accumulative number right and then I break it down into each uh subsection if you will and then do you have repeat offenders for lack of a better word we absolutely do and it's not the animal it's the owner who's a repeated offender absolutely and you're correct on that um we do but unfortunately I don't keep that data okay and it it would be really hard to say that they're a repeat offender because of the the uh the movement of people in the city so one month they live here six months later they live here eight months later they live here so yes we could have that that beginning offender at this address they move over here they offend again or they violate the ordinance again I shouldn't say offend they violate the ordinance again at this address and then they move and we still have the same circumstance right so it's kind of hard to pinpoint it to that it's hard to track the individual because they may have the same name right too okay thank you very much officer P menis thank you Mr chair you're welcome thank you Council Flores any last thoughts questions all right thank you sir thank you sir you are welcome all right then we'll move on to shelter statistics and activities with Mr Clint ther get out of this than morning board Clint ther executive director Animal Service Center M Valley I'd like to also a few days ago give a little shout out to Mayor proam happy birthday a couple days ago so glad you're here with us let see so our numbers for August uh were very high well you're going to see as we go through this the current population at the center 450 and again we're keeping that number low because of our quality of care and you're going to see that throughout this that there was a lot of things numbers that went high in order to keep that number low so our current intake 945 animals came into the center just in August 581 dogs 358 cats our intake methods of course uh animal control they are always going to be our highest 52.6% uh the next one and they're usually right in there is owner surrender with 21 and a half and Strays by public is at 21% so those always come in just really super close together uh owner surrender continues to be a problem and an issue uh we continue to our strategic plan we're developing um calls for forming which we we do to appoint uh food banks and other resources to help with it so that is a continual issue that we're looking at uh August returns we had so that means animals that came back to us like they adopted and they brought them back we had a total it says here 16 but that doesn't add up to the five that are on that are on here so Lifestyles other pets so just four four dogs one cat i d diverted intake Hold Steady right where it was last month uh and close to where it was the month before that so August we ended with 189 for those watching or listening for the first time that that number is a number that will somebody like stray found by the public comes in and the individual who found it is willing to hold on to the animal take it for a walk post signs so that's a diverted intake if it's an owned animal bringing in our front office will say uh why is it you need to oh I can't afford food okay well if we give you a little bit of food can you hold on to it type of thing so that's what we continue to do um I don't want to get my dog or I I have to get my dog sterilized well we can help you with that that that kind of thing that diverts the animal from coming into the center so 189 there of course if the person says I just don't want it you know if you guys don't take it I'm just going to let it go then of course we take it we don't we don't have to divert it first this is a hard slide to read for me especially for the euthanasia and we'll just jump right down there 349 animals were euthanized in the month of August that equals almost a 37% of all that 945 that we saw was euthanized uh adoptions were the next highest at 23.3% rescued uh we man the rescue organizations are so full right now but they help us every single month and we're so grateful for them they saved 155 lives so that's 16.4% of that of that outcome so we ended with the live release rate of 61.5 and the live release rate again is the percentage of animals that came in Left Alive so that's 61.5% this is our transfers or our rescues again special thank you to those that they do so much for us so the total there 158 um APA local here that does so much for us burnner Le County Animal Care they are the directors a friend of mine they came and did a tour of our Center they said well we need cats and I said well we can connect the dots so we brought them so 13 cats so shout out special to them we do that Front Range Freedom rescue uh that's the one where we meet in I believe it's Ron New Mexico so they do a lot of for us as well uh as you can see big mut Network there's say that's a big one too at 25 so special thanks to all of those that work so hard for us this is our euthanasia reason in August the number one reason was space medical for dogs these are animals that if we had the space we would usually not euthanize them we would hold on to them we would see if they respond to treatment you see the number one reason uh for cats is feral with a close behind of uh non-treatment for Respiratory signs again if we had room those those it says non- treatment we would have held on to those been able to treat them but since we are so full we had uh to make space for the animals that are continually coming in with 900 I think it was 900 45 49 animals space needs to be made every single day our surgeries amazing job of what they do 404 surgeries I know that number seems a little low when you look at it excuse me across the board uh however it is amazing for what they do with what they have uh I know that when I say we have I believe five contracted veterinarians that it's like oh that's great fantastic well they only do one or two days a month so just keep that in mind it's uh we do have several of them but it's not a full-time Dr Haden usually picks up everything else in there and and that's the reason why our lower quality of care is because when the veterinarian tied up doing surgeries not always available to uh to say who can come and who can go as far as for treatments so but she does an amazing job and so does her team our volunteers did an amazing 659 hours a lot of that is a dog walking team they walked every single available dog in the center so they got out uh had a lot of fun jumped around uh and we're exhausted for that day uh when the new center is built we're going to be utilizing volunteers to do playards or play groups so dogs are going to be able be able to get out a 15minute play group is equivalent to a 30 minute walk because the brain stimulation is so much more when you're playing in a pack mentality so they um get a lot more out of those play groups so we're looking forward to that part being completed and uh there's trainings that we go to to be able to get them those play groups started our visitors again went down just a little bit for 1600 for the center our web website views went down just a touch 38,000 but holding steady at that higher amount and then Facebook views shot up astronomically up to 18,900 almost 1900 so when I went back and looked through Facebook about why that big jump in August we had national dog day that had over 500 shares not views but shares so that was a really that was a lot we had our on August 9th we also posted that we were out of space and we did a graphic that showed that showed our capacity or what we wanted to keep our capacity at and that was shared over 500 times as well we able to get some traction out of that it was also the whole month of August was clear the shelter that's a very popular one our lobby is usually full uh you know the start of that one and this was no different so we had qu the shelter the entire month of August that's a big one with t Mundo comes out we do interviews uh I do videos throughout but I think the biggest one and this is kind of tongue and cheek but still very true is we did a celebration for our lobby cat Lobby cat Sir Henry it was his birthday and he got over 2.4 th000 views to put you put that in perspective I did a core the shelter video and I got 300 300 views Sir Henry got 2 . 4,000 so we appreciate all the attention Henry gives us uh because that's positive for the shelter positive for the center so we're able to see that and Shiloh and Angel are our animals or pets of the week available for adoption and I can entertain any questions you may have thank you Clint are there any questions on the presentation perfect commissioner on this I actually do have a question can you go back to the slide on the um organizations that take dogs from the shelter I just have a qu question I don't know why I thought about it just now but are we actively reaching out to these individuals or are these individuals reaching out to us for animals so it's both both if we have an animal that's specific like you'll see here Arizona border colle rescue it's like the fifth one down if we have a collie we're going to notify them and say hey we have a dog that looks like a collie acts like a collie do you want this and they'll say yes or no a lot of times what happens is we'll post something on Facebook we have a special Facebook rescue page that's a private page that any of these can be on and we'll post an animal that needs to be rescued and then they'll tag each other or so that's kind of our way of reaching out or somebody will see something and they'll contact us but big ones like action program for animals that they're here locally they'll just come and they'll see what we have so it's it's both what's the other on uh Boulder Valley uh the Humane Society of Boulder Valley I'm not sure but it's probably probably a varmint of some type like a rat or a a lizard maybe or do you know what it was Michelle it was not a dog and a cat cross those two out okay we'll take it thank thank you speaking of birds did did you find a home for the uh rooster yes I think I I thought I saw I I thought I saw that post on on the Facebook page yes yes we did our our roosters and chickens usually move pretty quickly whether let's just say that yes we did okay I you know I think I'm always I'm you know it's so easy to always assume cats and dogs and then like you said it's just like you know there's the the the variety of animals that end up at the at at the Animal Service Center is just amazing I know um you know when when we had the the One update from the you know we get the morning updates about the snake that was loose in in the the center that one I had to take a second look and and just like as I remember I called you and asked you is this real because it's not something you always see on an update so yes correct um I I was going to ask ask and I don't know maybe maybe I'm way off here but when we go back I know we we we look two years back on our data but when we look and think at like 2019 and before before the pandemic it sure seemed like our the live release rate was significantly higher yes and I know like I said I know we had the pandemic in between then I know there's some other factors but is there anything that sticks out um that has changed in you know like I said I know I like I said I know where we're at and I understand you know why what's going on and why it's happening but I'm just wondering is there anything that sticks out because I just was thinking God we used to be in the 80s or at least close to the 80s and close yeah and and so I don't know what from the experience I said going back that far what's what's changed yeah excellent question and we've been looking at that data as as well so there's two main things two biggest things on that one is the amount of rescues that were going out before the uh pandemic uh we were having 2,000 year rescues you look at our data and our annual animal reports it was I mean in 2018 I think it was 3,000 over 3,000 animals went out to rescues uh and those were significant bump ups for our live relash rakes those were those were true outcomes uh so rescue has gone way down I mean you can look and see just in the screen that there ones on there from 21 to 22 I mean you're at 26% 21% and then 16 I mean this year has been a very hard very hard year for rescues the other one is our quality of care if you remember we've been we've had our population at times around 600 animals in the center and so when you have that yeah your live release rate is higher but the monetary funds and the time spent with the animals is is astronomical because they're more stressed there's a lot more stress on employees because we have animals literally in crates on top of each other in the hallway in the kennels uh and we decided we being the management team and we decided we're not going to do that this year we are not going to cause an added stress to the animals to individuals that have to clean them nor to the management because it's a huge stress on us as well yeah okay those are the two biggest factors for that thank you and I think like I said I I appreciate you pointing pointing it out and um I said it was just in my mind when I see the large number of euthanasias and just trying to understand because I know like I said that was the one thing that went through my mind is God we we were always higher in our numbers so I appreciate the clarity on that you're going to see an increase as we go up into the colder months uh remember several years in a row January February before pre pre pandemic we were in the 90s and we did press releases you know saying and such that that we qualified as no kill in those days uh so it with the TW with the time of year August it's the summer man it's a hard month we always always go up in the summer no understand yeah thank you Clint any other questions all right thank you I do want to let you know the board know that on 10:15 October 15th Sunday we have our next vaccine clinic drive-thru oh thank you so it's going to be a huge event always as 9-2 Field of Dreams and then also a new thing that we're doing is we're going reaching out into the far areas uh of the county we're going to be going on Saturday September 30th we're going out to hatch and doing adoptions so our thing is is that if we can't get them to come to us we'll try sending a few animals out to out to them it's not a huge you know take the trailer and the big trucks and all this it's it's like four to five animals we go out there and we one or two employees so it's not heavy burden on us and let's just see that's kind of the point we're at we are trying to do everything we can to save these animals lives no I appreciate it and I think uh you know getting out in the various other parts of the county um you know hopefully I'd be curious to see what kind of reaction you get to that but I think it's important that uh you're reaching out into the outside of the city so hopefully you'll you'll get some support hopefully you'll get some good uh responses from the community out there yeah thank you thank you I have a question yes Council FES thank you Mr chair and thank you so much Clint um for your presentation when someone looks to adopt an animal or say you go out to you're going out to hatch do you um um require or ask or suggest um that they take a course in um Animal Care and animal responsibility and then the follow-up question to that is um how many returns or do you get any Returns on those adoption efforts that that you do all right so to answer the first one is no we don't require anything uh what we do do though is if anybody brings an animal back to and the return is for behavior issues we have the rough to ready program we call it so it's one of the diverted intakes that we do is we say well we have are you willing to do one to two adult or um training sessions behavior training sessions with our professional that we've teamed with and if they say no absolutely I don't want the dog there's then we take it but if they say yeah sure I'd like to do that then we set them up with a professional dog trainer and they'll be able to do one to two sessions with them show them how to do or you know maybe the dog's going to the bathroom in the house they'll set them up on a successful path maybe the dog's jumping up well they they'll show them how to do those things uh but no we do not require them to to have any training beforehand do you ask them um whether they've ever owned um that you know a cat or a dog you know the animal that you're setting up for adoption when you go out or when they come into the center do you ask whether they've ever been an animal pet owner in the past even you know even if it's a Geral or a um whatever you know those little what my kids had oh I don't know those smelly little things that look like rats they just adored them um I was going to say kids but that's well oh excuse me it was my kids that's right no um so do you do any of that CL or uh we have a conversation we have a conversation with them and that's kind of one of the questions that we do is we talk about you know B basically how do you plan on caring for this animal and with that question we're asking have you ever owned an animal so with that answer we would get yeah I know what to do you get the litter and you know we have to place it in an open place and so that conversation tells us a lot now we have a couple times if somebody is like in an apartment and they want a Great Dane we're like no this isn't this isn't a good mix you know there's there are you aware of some of the challenges that you're facing or can you tell me some of the challenges that you have you're going to have with this huge dog in 600 square F feet so or if they already have four cats and you know and so we talk to them about those things but if an individual says if they're adamant that I can make it work and they have good things good reasons or a good plan set then we're like let's give it a try because here's why even if the animal comes back we still get information on that animal so if it is a Great Dane and they're adamant and they have a plan then we'll say okay great or we'll say okay great but then the landlord kicks them back and says no you can't do this we know how that animal walks on a leash we'll know how the animal settles down at night we'll know so all the information that we get on that animal up to the point of return is so valuable because then we can pass that on to other individuals so we don't view returns as a failure we view it as a information period that we can get as long as we're capturing that information on the return we see it's only positive for the animal good work thank you thank you Mr chair thank you CC flus thank you CL thank you all right so we'll move on to committee reports starting with the finance committee Mrs bomo thank you so much chair yes the finance committee met last Thursday um September 21st and reviewed the financial through um August of this fiscal year there were no concerns the revenues for the center are running a little bit ahead of schedule of course because the city and county provide 22% of the budgeted revenues upfront to the center um so that's proceeding um as uh intended and expected and then the operating expenditures were below the budget Target for the month uh which is about 17% of the annual budget so there were no uh in the aggregate no expenditures from the center that were over the the U intended budget Target for that month so no concerns at this point we will receive the full financial report NE at next month's board meeting uh so that we can review the first quarter results and so we'll have that presentation here uh next month great thank you are there any questions board all right thank you Mr Moma all right then we're on to the uh executive committee so uh Clint and I had uh met on uh the morning of September uh 12th and we ended up I think uh um mayor proem was there we really it was a pretty quiet uh I think meeting in terms of there was I think we just discussed the upcoming this meeting the agenda we talked about the upcoming uh work session that we had last week um but really I think one of the other the only concern that that was brought up was really around how um I think we're just getting commun you know the board is having Communications from our various um managements and constituent teams with some of the uh the work work that's been going on with the uh ordinances and trying to make sure we're getting updates and so that's one of the things that that we discuss a little bit and trying to figure out how we can uh work on getting the updates because I think one of the things that that we've had we're hearing some things from the constituents but I think as um I'd say even as as commissioner or as the electeds on the board we haven't gotten much updates because I know they the processes and works for any updated animal ordinances um and so I'm sorry CL correct there there so the the animal ordinances for both the the city and the county are both being um worked on together and so that way we can have uh some updates and I know we've been reached out to by constituents ask I guess they're they're already have being alerted or around some changes that are coming but I I haven't been able to have the discussions and and so I think that was really the only other item that that came up in the discussion but um I don't know mayor proth I I think that covers everything if you recall so that's it from the executive committee right the facilities committee thank you we met and spoke of the the various things that are happening specific to facilities um things changed so drastically in Clint I'm going to ask you to come up and give an update we did receive an update at council meeting Monday about um sort of the What's um been left in terms of the Animal Services Center and receiving sort of the the supplies necessary to move that um to move um to completion um and David Cil spoke of of of some of the crates and different things that we were waiting for um he mentioned October I believe but Clint do you have some more update I do yes yes mayor portam we uh we being the ascmv was able to move forward on the cement work that we discussed with the the get acquainted areas so the drains as we speak the drains are being installed connected to the main lines uh and that that work is ongoing I talked to the uh Janes construction yesterday and he said their goal is to be done by the end of October um but they have I I want to say until November 15th is what the contract says but they're in line to be done by by mid to end of October so we're excited about that that and that is for all the get acquainted yards to be cemented uh fences installed and then the fences for the play yards will now finally go all the way up and then the crusher fine Rock will be spread out just so you're aware if you remember we went back and forth quite a bit on designs for the G acquainted yard My Hope was to cement the entire Place uh but their funds were not available so we had to do just the rectangles and then Crusher findes will go around it with the hopes that in coming years we'll be able to cement the entire thing um I know that the county has offered for assistance in this cementing to help cut some costs so maybe that's a future we can look into to complete that goal to have it all done uh the wireless access uh continues to well they've ordered the products but everything's on back order and so we're waiting on that I if I remember right the wiring has been done we're just waiting for the equipment for that so we're once those come it's a one to two week installation period uh we just looking through my notes there continues to be a key card problem uh you know when you the key cards you use to swipe in to get in they can't find a card that we can use uh that will work at the old Center and the new center uh they believe they have they have one but they're waiting on a PO number and that approval process to get that started um and I can request an update that for the next facility committee meeting the puppy cages they have them installed in two of the dog runs so we're excited about that they're beautiful there's stainless steel and glass on the uh visitor side and then on the staff side that's a great that you can just a regular cage front that you can open so we're excited for those uh we have no completion date for the if you remember the cat cages that are installed were the wrong height uh we are purchasing those through a grant at a significantly discounted amount so uh we'll be taking those but the new ones they they are under production we're told by the general contractor but there's no completion date as of yet or install is there anything else that I may have left out okay so maybe one question um any idea when we can move everybody in and all the animals and have a open house or um ribbon cutting it I would love to say November 1st I mean that might be cutting it a little close as far as what how the cement goes one thing I don't want to do is do an announcement and then have to cancel it yeah so um I I mean I think I think we're pretty safe to say you know December December 1st something like that uh so that will allow us to get in get our animals in get anything that we may need uh installed the or get things you know how you move into there's always a new new procedures new things you have to figure out uh also yesterday we got our dishwashers finally uh uh order not ordered but delivered so now we have to get a licensed plumber and electrician to install them or avoids the warranty even though it's a simple put on a table and plug it in we still need to have that done so um but other than that I'm I'm hoping December okay we can do it good to know thank you thank you mayor protim thank you Clint okay so next uh next on our agenda we don't have anything under discussion items so we'll move on to action items so which will be 7A resolution 2023-24 budget if I can get a motion and a second for resolution 202312 so moved second we have a motion by commissioner Shel randez a second by councelor Flores thank you take all the Applause I can get than right and sorry for this one we're um this one would be first to carry the grant funds forward oh I apologize I'm sorry Clint I was moving to to mine okay no problem if you want to hang on there so you don't have to it's all right come all the way up can launch that okay was weird do was like no yeah you bet so on this one uh this is just basic housekeeping you see from the exhibit a that you have there we're moving the grant funds over that we did not use from the previous year and we're moving them over into this year for utilization pretty much pretty basic stuff okay there any questions seems straightforward we can get a roll call Board member Weir yes board member shayo Hernandez Yes W Mundra yes Cher Sanchez yes Miss Ben if you want to register a vote with the on the microphones down there as well well with with she is but with but you don't have I just didn't know with the with the city not having the full complement of their votes I didn't know if their vote counted so I I we have the the Quorum so we're good I just want I just wasn't sure okay thank you all right okay so now move on to we'll go on to resolution all right thank you so much we'll restart this one again so uh appreciate the time to review a proposed jpa and andou for the Animal Service Center um just a little bit of background as you all know the current GPA was established in 2012 the review of the jpa um the current jpa with the intent to update it began in early 2022 um um and we have discussed proposed changes both at the August 24th board meeting and also at the special work session on September 21st some of the highlights of changes in the jpa of course the the big one is the structure removing the Fiscal Agent responsibilities from the jpa in order to create a new memorandum of understanding that would Encompass that we'll talk a little bit more about that in just a sec here um also we have some proposed changes to board membership the comp composition of the board which we will go into in in more detail later on uh the term uh of the board two two-year terms are proposed for board members um and the removal of board members previously in the jpa there were different stipulations for uh What uh might constitute removal of the board members from the county versus the city and we've really just consolidated that into one statement that applies to all board members um there's some language clarification in the jpa um for example and that's throughout but for example um in just defining what happens with the funds that are not spent in a given fiscal year and how they roll over into the the reserve for the next year um other changes include meetings meetings are now proposed to be uh to be held each quarter versus each month and there's some uh a new threshold uh for the uh percentage of meetings that uh the board members have to attend otherwise there there could be a removal from the board um the jpa also includes a statement now about the duties of the center to just specify what the center will be providing to the community and also language was added to specify periodic r View and renewal of the jpa the newly created memorandum of understanding really goes into more detail about what services will be provided by the city um in terms of financial services Human Resources it risk and Fleet it also outlines the duties of the center and we're going to go into both of these here in just a in just a little bit uh but one important um specification in the Moa is that the center will adopt certain city policies for example cash handling travel PE card um risk management policies Etc and then also that the compensation for the Fiscal Agent services will be based upon a cost allocation study uh rather than a fixed amount that increases with inflation every year which is what was in the last jpa and this allows for us to as the center to Define what services are needed uh for the Fiscal Agent to Define what services can be provided to come to agreement upon that and then the cost is based on those services that will be provided very specifically so some of the things in theou that I wanted to just call your attention to because they will be new uh is that in this mou we have included Risk Management Services to the Animal Service Center uh specifically for for drug testing that includes random drug testing pre-employment it requires the adoption of a policy uh for this and and I believe the center is going to be adopting the the city's risk management policy is that correct Clint yes um we've also specified Fleet Services that wasn't addressed in the last jpa but Fleet definitely does the procurement of vehicles for the Animal Services Center and then obviously repair and maintenance of the vehicles so that's just specified in theou IT services were not specified in the last jpa but it does a lot of work for the Animal Services Center procurement of computer systems maintenance of such Network support phones licensing uh so all of that is specified in this new mou as well and then another new program that's uh added to the theou under Human Resources Services is the addition of a tuition reimbursement program that was requested by um the director of the center um and agreed upon by HR um there's some Pro there is a proposed amendment to theou that I just want to um call your attention to this is proposed by our city auditor so our city auditor of violaa periodically reviews the city's compliance to policies such as cash handling travel PE cards Etc when she is pulling um documents in order to do those audits those random audits um there may be transactions included in there that belong to the Animal Service Center in that case because they have also adopted the same policies we want to be able to uh conduct the audit of the center at the same time as that we do the city to make sure we're all in compliance uh with the policies so um the language that is requested to be added to theou is that the city shall be the Fiscal Agent sorry is that let me go to this section sorry sorry about that is that see jpa in [Music] section two that's the duties of the city F that we would add wording as the Fiscal Agent the city reserves the right to audit Center activities related to City policies adopted by the center uh so that some proposed language that we'd like to discuss today for the center responsibilities I mentioned we we've also outlined uh the duties of very uh in in quite a bit of detail so that we all understand the different roles and responsibilities between the center and the Fiscal Agent for example and these are just a few highlights um we've specified that the center is responsible for all management of their budget they'll comply with the deadlines laid out for uh reporting and develop v m of the budget and also use the city's enterprise resource planning system in order to um complete budget development and manage the budget um the center uh will uh be responsible for the collection and deposit of depositing of receivables this is something that's already the case but again it's just stipulated in theou and that the center will pay for access to the city's training system in order to be able to comply with various requirements that are related to policies that are adopted by the center and then there's a corollary to the proposed amendment of language for the um responsibilities of the center related to the audit and that language would be in in section let's see the duties of the center uh item U would be added to just indicate that the center would cooperate with any City audits of activities related to City policies adopted by the center so that would be the um that would be the um other Amendment that's proposed by our our city auditor and I'm going to speak about this a little bit more but in going through the documents theou and the jpa are extensive the jpa was edited extensively um there were quite a few items that that changed numbering or lettering in review with councelor fles we found a few things that needed to be up uh corrected in terms of the should be number three not number two this should be item F not item G and so those are administrative changes that I'm already going through the documents to to to update just to let you know uh so there will be some numbering and lettering changes related to those Corrections so one thing we have discussed um previously is the composition of the board membership in the jpa on the left hand side of your screen you'll see the current jpa um composition of the board there are six voting members three City elected officials or staff three County elected officials or staff and two ex officio members that's the city manager the county manager or their designes so that's that's the current composition of the board in the jpa that you have uh before you there's a proposal for eight voting members and the composition would be one elected official from both the city and the county the city manager and the county manager who had become voting members of the board and then two members of the public appointed by the city and two appointed by the county at the last work session we also discussed some other potential options for the board which I've laid out for you here on the right hand side of your screen um this option retains eight voting members um two elected officials each from the city and county two members of the public uh appointed by the city two by the county and then the city manager and County man manager REM remain ex official members and there's also an option that retains the eight voting members two elected officials from the city and the county each and then the city manager and the county manager become voting members and then one member of the public appointed by the city and one by the couny so those are the some of the the options that we discussed at the last um work session as far as next steps and where we are today um of course we we have the ability to make amendments to either the jpa or theou or both I pointed out that there could be potentially a an amendment related to the board membership there could be Amendment related to the right to audit langage language that I mentioned for theou specifically um if those amendments uh if we under take those amendments and they pass then of course the next step would be the board approval then would go to city and county for approval and then State approval for the jpa and just one clarification uh related to County approval the county approval would only be for the jpa theou is an agreement between the center and the city as Fiscal Agent um so with that I'll be happy to stand for any questions that you have thank you Mrs bomo councilor Flores we'll start with you and then go to Mayor poon Gander thank you Mr chair and thank you uh Miss bomo um so the umou is being reviewed by the party's respective attorneys theou has already been the draft mou has already been reviewed by the City attorney and Clint the ascmv attorney I don't it has not been reviewed by the uh by the attorney for the center however most everything in there probably 90% are things that we are already doing we're just getting it on paper and getting it done so I don't see the need to send it to to him but if you would like to I can add that in as well I think you should um and I mean it's not a it's not my directive it's a personal well as a board member I would say you'd be you'd be uh in a much safer position a Clint uh to have an attorney review it because then you can blame the attorneys you know we get blamed for everything all right well do thank you but um honestly um seriously you'd be protecting yourself and the center um from any uh potential liability should okay I can get that to them right now okay great thank you and um then I have a question about um there were um dang I wrote it down where is it well I'll look for it and maybe follow up later thank you thank you Mr chair thank you miss m thank you Council hes mayor Port Gand thank you um yes I had a question on um slide nine um I I like this um option um better than the first opt option I wanted to um ask in terms of selection um for the respected County and city um um um public appointment what sort of process by which would um folks go through and then the kind of training that they would get specific to the animal you know there's a lot that it's taken me years and years to figure this out and I still don't grasp it completely so um really concerned about about that particularly and all of us have city and county appointees um I just want to make sure that we're not throwing these folks to the fire that there's going to be a designated um process and training quer executive director uh the so when we put this in there I I do remember Mr msas was saying that uh the city appointed and the county appointed they would follow their own so the city would follow their own methods of appointing selecting and following and and getting that individual uh appointed there and the county would follow their own procedures for doing it for vetting the individual and then as far as training the individual would be sitting with me and I could present them with the same pamphlet I presented all of you not pamphlet but information packet uh that talks about the board what it is I can answer any questions and also the hope is that these individuals would already be fluent in a lot of the terminology and the and the things that we use and talk about uh in the animal industry in the animal world so we have some great people that are here in the community that could easily fill that role so that was that was a line of thinking behind this drive to get a public person on there yeah and particularly in the budget um um area Clint it's not a large budget but it's a budget nevertheless that they would have to be responsible for that that that composition is new right and um I'm I'm deeply concerned with the option one um particularly for that reason I I I am you know to have sort [Music] of the other way feels feels um concerning to me um um particularly that will be um moving in that direction hopefully by next January I'm assuming or what do you think Barbara I'm looking at how long do they take DFA take to that's a that's a good question good question not that you have any power or control over it what your thought and they have had The Changing of the Guard this year too they have quite quite a few new staff members so I couldn't say um it really you know initially we thought that we would uh bring the document to the board here in September take it to the city and county in October um and then hopefully get it to DFA right after the October uh resolution so January would would be a nice time to be able to hope for but I can't really I can't really say how long that process would take yeah there's a lot of movement um this year hopefully it lands the way we all want it to um but that's a big that's a big if um and I'm concerned about the terms the two-year terms it it just feels twoyear terms for members so it's two oh two two years I misunderstood okay I'm sorry that's right I appreciate the opportunity to clarify so the language in the jpa stipulates two two-year terms so a total of four years on the board which I think is important continuity is important okay all right thank you thank you um chair thank you mayor proam and I I guess the only question I comment I know this came up during the work session was around the board being and having public members on on the board with the budget and I guess you know my question being is that while I understand I said they're the options these were the options that were suggested because of the work session I guess I just don't have I guess when we talk on the budget I don't understand because the budget is approved by city council and by the County Commission not so much specifically we we we authorize or or approve the the contributions to the Animal Service Center um Clint along you know works on presenting the budget to the board for approval um I I guess I don't I don't see the I don't have as much of a concern or I don't understand the concern of having the public especially when we still have members of each body on the board with with doing I guess my my concern my question is is what what's the concern having two members of the public versus one that isn't I don't have a problem with that what I have a problem with was the numbers of elected officials versus what we have now that's my problem um because of the fact that I know how it's gone in the past budget we all were a part of it and how long it took even with the representatives from the county and the city now you're now you're reducing that to one and I find it difficult to to um you're right the city and county but that one individual is having to come and speak to councel and the county specifically ly about all the needs um and it and you know how it goes it doesn't happen as easily and I feel like if if it's a compromise to go from what we have now to one each is a drastic change and one that I don't think is the right move at this point I think a compromise would be this this one here um it it's still pretty drastic but at least it it keeps up with with um sort of you're you're eliminating one of us say for example um from both the city and the county I feel that's a nice enough and then bringing public I'm all for bringing the public in I think that's a really important aspect in something that we've never done and something that I think we've been talking about for some time that's not my that's not an all my concern it's about how drastic the change is and then what happens during budget season I know and we have a very formal budget season that we're beginning now um to speak to and to leave it to one individual depending on who that one individual and knowing that we have elections it could not be any of us on this with the exception of councelor Flores um to carry that burden over um and so I just I'm just concerned with the composition in terms of the number for elected officials that's it okay thank you I think when you mentioned the budget that that was the piece that I know as councelor flotes had previously mentioned in the work session that's why I was just wanted to get a better understanding so thank you mayor po we no we haven't we haven't we've been so busy we can't even cheese me out about anything B but um so uh miss dilon you you have oh I'm sorry did you recognize me oh please um thank you thank you Mr Mr chair and again thank you Miss dilon um we have we have two side we have two options uh on the jpa composition board composition so um I captured two options based on the discussion at the last work session that's correct so here here was the original proposed uh board membership that you have in your jpa draft document and then we had two options that I captured from the discussion okay I I think uh my understanding Miss dilon um was that um the city the city manager and County manager or their designes at at given times throughout yeah uh would be voting members and I I like the composition on page eight on slide eight uh i' like the two elected officials to uh from each body and um so the reason yeah that this one this one has the two ex officio members uh is because of the retention of the eight total voting members on the board and and this one again retains the eight voting members but allows the city manager County Manager to be voting members so those that was the difference between the wait a minute two options I'm sorry so there's eight voting members for each option that's correct there's eight what's why is eight magical I mean what's so magical about eight I I think we um discuss this briefly at the work session let's let's beat the dead horse oh I'm sorry this is the Animal Service Center um terrible expression but can we um beat that um Beat It To The Ground I mean I I don't know I I has something not worked with having the city manager design or the county manager design um yeah okay okay okay I I okay forget it strike that I I I think uh the uh option to option two is is uh acceptable to me by looking at it again it answered my question thank you Miss Dilo thank you Mr chair thank you Council FES and Mrs Momo I just have on on option two well we still have the ex officio members is there even a need for the ex officio because they're now on the board you have the city and county man manager or designes um is it just adding just to have additional so chair Sanchez on option two we do not have any exico members okay I just like I said I see it I I see it on the slide and that's a on the left hand side as the current oh oh oh that's okay the the left hand side is the current structure and the right hand side is is the is one of the options got it okay that was thr the I apologize thank you for the clarification appreciate oh and I can supp pleas please oh thank you please yeah uh thank you Mr chair and again miss bomo and I'm glad our um city clerk is here we don't have our County Clerk here but in so far as the board appointments I she's happy she's back on vacation yeah happy yeah um won't last long though okay Forever The Optimist right um so what about um oh gosh uh I start to say you made me forget it's your fault um oh the board uh the board U membership and um how where so it'll be written in our jpa uh how a board member will be removed for due to um excessive absences that sort of stuff and then what's a procedure for that I know that for our city boards uh City only uh boards we um we have it written in our Charter that removal is automatic I that's another issue but that's for for another day another time but um it doesn't say anything about the process I I or does it so um yes there is some information in the jpa related to the potential removal of a board member and the way it the language reads is that attendance is required for all board meetings a member may be removed by a majority board vote for failure to attend more than 50% of the regular meetings in any 12 Monon period right and then uh the new jpa also sets forth only four meetings quarterly meetings throughout the year so a person can only miss two of those meetings in any 12 Monon period in any 12- month period oh in any 12mon period so um wow so but it the word is May is that's permissive so if someone belly aches about why they're absent all the time maybe they won't be removed but majority of the board by majority of the board yeah wow that I think I I think the four meetings um I I think it's probably doable um and I I wasn't well it's I just you know we we meet once a month and some of our meetings go to up until noon um and I'm just wondering whether four meetings a year is sufficient that's all I mean in terms of everything that that Clint reports everything that's going on with the center everything that's going on with our um with our acos and everything like that um where did that magical under number come from um believe I believe that there was some discussion about the overall number of meetings that um certainly elected officials had in a given period of time I know that we have moved our financial reports to a quarterly basis because on a month-by-month basis um the it's it's somewhat less meaningful to review those over that time period but definitely at the quarter is is reasonable and I think um prudent and so so I think uh there was just more uh you know guidance along those same lines for the overall board meeting and I don't I don't know if any of those who who uh had some input into the uh change would like to make any other comments okay well I think I've spoken enough thank you very much shair thank you miss m thank you Council fores mayor pantra thank you um chair Barbara Could you um read specifically from the jpa what it says about the [Music] meetings like how frequent that that piece is it along no no okay I just want to I I tried to look for it real quick and I I I lost it I couldn't find it in my email here let's see so it says uh in section this is under the section five Center organization uh subsection e meetings me meeting shall be conducted um in accordance with Robert's Rules of Order the board shall hold one regular meeting each quarter special meetings of the board may be called in accordance with the New Mexico open meetings act and then that notice of meetings will comply with open meetings act Etc and there's some language about the minutes but so that's the language related to meetings so I I I asked you to do that because I think there's some flexibility in the event we need to meet a little more regularly those special meetings could be uh identified as um the board is meeting and fills there it's necessary to talk about whatever work sessions or the like so I'm feeling that there's some flexibility there um councelor FL it is that is at the bottom of page three oh special meetings item two under Section e meetings oh yes and and then I'm I'm I'm also um asking if we do move in this direction that Clint provide I we're still going to have our subcommittees oh is that in there or does it need to be in there I believe the subcommittees are covered in the bylaws okay okay good so we're still going to have our our our bylaw uh excuse me our sub committees and that might need to have further discussion about the frequency by which um but I'm I'm thinking Clint that you could do a lot of information or I don't know with the open meds act and rolling quorums and those sorts of things um providing you know at least the subcommittee's information specific to right um that specific committee so it's going to it's going to rely on you I think it relies on you to have more more communication with the board about these areas from the executive to facilities right and it it doesn't discount that we meet regularly every month and I'm not suggesting we meet every month but I'm just saying we do have a lot of meetings in this board I feel keeps up with those meetings um I think fairly well everybody comes the the the board that we have now everybody participates um very consistently so I I feel there's still some flexibility and Clinton you want to say something I think I do I um my plan was is to continue with the monthly meetings because there is so much information that goes on monthly and if we do move it to to the quarterly I mean information will need to be passed and so uh we also have in there a due date of 30 days to get everything for the board meetings so having a monthly meeting is absolutely man mandatory so that information can be passed around and see what needs to be in 30 days prior to the board meeting so that information can be REM can be reviewed so that's that was my plan to continue with that I'm satisfied with that I was a little hesitant at um had the same concern as Council flotes but as we Barbara as you read it I feel like there's flexibility still and then we have all our subcommittees that meet monthly I think that would be sufficient thank you chair thank May okay I I think um well I don't know if there's any additional comments but at least I think where we're at I think well let me ask this question because I know is Council flotes had advised Mr ther that we might want to have the review of the jpa with the attorney for the ascmv my question is do we want to move forward by approving a jpa today and then have it reviewed by the ascmv attorney before possibly bringing it to the city council and the County Commission or do we want to look to push this off for another month I think my preference is not to push it off another month but um I just want to make sure we're doing it you know allow allowing the pro the process to happen appropriately chair Sanchez just a clarification um the request was for theou to be reviewed the jpa has already been reviewed by the Animal Service Center attorney and our attorney as well and I believe on the county side um as well I I will say that with respect to coming forward to our city council it would make sense to have both the jpa and theou together at Council County you will just be seeing the the jpa so if there is a this review period by the attorney then I would expect that it would delay action um potentially here for approval and then um at the city council but at least if the but do we need theou if the jpa is going to to DFA then we don't have to theou can come after so the the jpa does refer to the establishment of anou with the city which is why we were um trying to bring them together okay so that they could uh one wouldn't be lagging the other uh since they are to be established together okay and I think I think if I heard councelor Flo is if if for any if we needed to do any changes we could uh speaking of a special meeting we could have one to change anou if we needed to if if we move forward if we move forward with approval today and for if for any reason something had to change or the the board had to approve something we could theoretically call another meeting to review or make the appropriate changes with that on theou only yeah yes okay so I was just going to ask if that if that if that's the case then I'd like like I said I would love for us to move forward in in a direction of approving theou and jpa today um with I think so what I understood or at least what we could have right now is two potential amendments I think one that I noted one was to be for the audit or to allow in theou for well that would be for theou is correct that is for theou that's correct and then under the jpa then we would have possibly we could entertain an amendment on board membership so yes those are the two that I'm aware of with respect to amendments I will say that for our timeline for bringing things forward to council and as Clint alluded to we have um extensive uh Deb or quite a bit of time that needs to to be uh for review that needs to take place before we bring something to council so if we were to approve the jpa andou here but then theou goes to the Animal Center uh the Animal Service Center attorney for review um I I probably wouldn't propose it to go to council until after we know that that review is complete so that would potentially bring it to Council in November is what I'm thinking Okay so I just want to like I said I know I have my take but I don't know from the board is there a direction do we want to wait until theou review happens or do we want to just move forward with for now and then we can make adjustments okay Council flotes thank you Mr chair well I'm looking at Clint and I think he's going no I don't see an attorney okay you don't want to see an attorney fine okay so you should listen listen listen so we'll have oh sorry go ahead please yes I I forgot I had it written down here and didn't look down on my notes quick enough but Clint there's some discussion about um 501c3 and um does that need to be a part of the jpa and theou I would say no because the 501c3 is a separate entity altogether from the ascmv uh we won't we won't have it won't be part of us their mission will be the ascmv but they're not going to be a part of our organization what do you mean it's not it's like a financial arm to you is what you want it to be so I don't agree with that statement and I just want for the city to be aware of some of the work that's been done to try to establish the 501c3 something of a goal of yours for right a uh several years at least since you got here it's kind of coming to fruition I we think I don't know but I don't want there to be um a legal issue um particularly for the city so I'm sounding the Barbara for um because we've had other it feels like you're not aware number one that is correct secondly I I I we've had other 501 c3s in the city with other pieces of our programming that sometimes we have concern with or we did and we've sort of fixed a lot of that but I don't want this to be a an issue so say this but discussion yes and more in-depth discussion I I was not aware and the characterization of it being a financial arm does raise concerns uh with me so I I do think that that's separate though the jpa establishes that the city and the county are creating the Animal Service Center as an operating entity in this um in this community it does not specify under you know what type of legal legal structure it operates so that's why I I actually agree with Clint that it's separate in a separate from this jpa agre okay I just want to make sure that that's thank you mayor Pro Gand and I think just for clarity I know we it was just discussed is there's the possibility I know we haven't I don't know how far that's actually gone yet but it was the discussion of uh the Humane Society of Southern New Mexico I know we have the two so that was going to be where we might be able to at least the discussion was that could potentially be a 501c3 that could be made that could be there to support the asmv but I know we can as we move forward we'll have hopefully have some updates on that um to the the board yeah it's it's brand new uh possibility and from my understanding that there was papers were just barely signed starting the process just yesterday so it's not like it's in a in a full you know 100% moving forward it's it's the very start of the process okay and I think as long as we're I think aware and I think as mayor proem had suggested so long as we're everything's kind of being done on The Upfront so that it's everything everything's done appropriately so we appreciate that um okay so with the jpa hopefully I think and with that in mind I don't know is there I'll entertain an amendment to we'll start with theou for the right for the city of Las Cruses to audit the ascmv Gand second by Flores okay we have a motion by mayor PM Gand second by councelor flotes um to amend theou are there any questions comments public input okay then I'll get a roll call on the amendment to theou board member Weir yes board member shayo Hernandez yes board member Flores yes board member gandera yes chair Sanchez yes passes thank you all right so that's been the mou is amended to address the audits the second would be now on the jpa on the board membership um I'd entertain a motion either probably easier to either select the option one which would have as you can see on the screen two elected officials from each city and county and two public with two ex official members being the city and county manager or designes so that would be option one option two would be two elected officials from each the city and county the city manager County manager or their designes and one member from the public appointed by the city and county so that each would have a total of eight um if there was going to be um an amendment it I don't know if like I said it might be easier if we just mention option one or option two Mr chair I would like to make a amendment that we go with option one including two elected officials from the city two elected officials from the county two public members from the city appointed and two public members from the county appointed okay there's a a motion um on the floor for uh to amend the jpa for board membership for option one by commissioner sh nandez is there a second or I'm sorry what was that commissioner okay okay Barbara real quick slide nine okay so the mo so the motion is for slide or for option one um I will second the motion for uh discussion so sorry and page eight page eight is the one that's being proposed or at least the motion was for those on page eight are there any questions second G sorry I had I had uh yeah we had a motion and then I seconded no no no wor so L said if we want to have discussion on the option one or this one on slide eight any comments questions all right we get a roll call for the amendment uh as proposed board membership option one on slide eight board member where yes board member shayo Hernandez yes board member Flores yes board member Gand yes chair Sanchez yes motion passes okay the jpa board uh membership as per the jpa is amended with two elected officials from the city two elected officials from the county two public appointed by the city two public members appointed by the county and twox official members which would include the city manager County manager or their designes okay are there any other comments questions amendments to the proposed jpa or okay if not then I'll ask for a roll call on theou and jpa resolution 20233 as amended board member we yes board member shayo Hernandez yes board member Flores yes for Gander yes chair Sanchez yes motion passes thank you thank you Mr ther thank you Mrs bomo for all the work and everyone else that's been working on the jpa and thank you councelor floa thank you to the members of the board for the discussion U I appreciated all right so item 7c resolution 2023-the executive director for the ascmv the uh contract will be for for approval for oh sorry trying to is it two years to 2025 thank you that's I was looking through the the resolution so if I can get a motion and a second for approval so moved moved by commissioner shadra nandez second by flotes thank you uh second by councelor flotes are there any questions like you said I know for clarification again that this is for we'll go run through the 2025 I don't know if there's any questions or uh comments on this resolution of the contract all right and I I know for clarification I did I know Mr ther had noted since he had been working on without an official contract I do need to send a letter or something indicating that he had continued the his employment um and I made a note here so that way I'll make sure to do it from December of 2021 through uh today for this approval of the amendment or the contract so with that if there are no questions or comments then I'll ask for a roll call on resolution 20234 board member we yes board member shayo Hernandez yes board member Flores yes board member gandera yes chair Sanchez yes motion passes is approved uh sir if I could say something really quick I just want to tell the board thank you very much for Rene that I look forward to uh three more years at least of continue employment thank you for your trust to having me uh we're going to do our best to save as many animals lives as we can I think that's why you had me come here and we're going to do our best I think we have good things looking up for the new center that's going to be opening up giving us better opportunities and thank you that's all I can say thank you Clint thank you Clint so we're in the public input section of our of our agenda there any members of the public not hearing or seeing any so we'll move on to chair and board comments are there any comments from the board no seeing shaking heads so then we'll move on to our last item which is adjournment so if there's a motion and a second to adjourn so moved moved by commissioner sh randez Wait a minute sorry I just need to clarify on the agenda it just gives the date of the next meeting the time is 10 10 a.m. it was changed due to some conflict with the council chambers so we are meeting at 10 a.m. on October 26th 26th thank you thank you I was going to that was going to be my right after we so we have a motion to adjourn in a second by Council flotes I believe so if there are no objections we'll call this meeting adjourned at 10:44 a.m. and as Mr ther has noted our next meeting will be Thursday October 26th at 10 a.m. thank you all very much for coming and we'll see you next month board members thanks please thank you