e [Music] e [Music] and you're on good afternoon everyone uh welcome to the city council work session today is Monday March 11th 2024 it's approximately 1 p.m. I mayor Enriquez um I'd like to start with a moment of silence uh for our military and for our police and fire and also want to extend our condolences to the mayor of the village of hatch who passed away uh Jim also known as Slim Whitlock so we could also remember him in our moment of silence thank you you want to please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all [Music] I just got that okay we'll start first with the jobs of the week uh Sarah rainy good afternoon thank you all right my name is Sarah Rainey I'm from the workforce Connections Office for the southwest region here in Los cruus and then all across the whole Southwest Seven Counties um for our jobs of the week for Las cruus we have a service attendant for the city of Los crues it's 1557 an hour that posting closes on the 18th we also have a traffic signal technician um the position pays 2.95 an hour and it is a Contin was posting for wh Sands Missle range we have a QC safety specialist one that one starts at $25 an hour and is open until filled for uh La Fiesta Bakery we have a doughnut fryer they um the position didn't have a pay so that one's depending on um experience that posting closes on the 21st as well for Sheron Williams they have a customer service specialist starting at $15 an hour and then for for MSA Valley hospice we have a cook and part-time weekend position open and then we wanted to remind you all of our events that we have coming up we do need um expertise to come and help us out at the macket till you rocket that's where the high schoolers get to learn how to interview they get to test their skills out and have actual interviews with employers some employers are hiring some of them are not but they still get that good one-on-one practice and they get the feedback on how to do a proper interview for their jobs um we also of course do our monthly um job Readiness at the community of hope this month it's on the 13th so um that is just for that in that community and then we have upcoming we have the Los cruus spring career fair that'll be on March 27th at the convention center from 2: to 5:30 we will have um veteran priority as well from what one and the first hour is veteran priority so only veterans can come in they can come in to meet the employers first and then after that the P it's open to the public anybody looking for a job or just a change so and then to introduce you to introduce him I have Jason Bernal here to speak on the Hiring Heroes hello council members my name is Jason Bernal I am the local veteran employment representative for Workforce connections uh we will be placing a Hiring Heroes event which is a veteran specific job fair uh it will take place on April 1st at the American Legion Post 10 times are going to be from 10 10:00 to 2:00 and what we're hoping to do is uh provide um jobs to uh job-seeking Veterans for law enforcement Health Services um Emergency Services as well as Federal Contracting uh there will be some uh other Supportive Services there for the veterans to use if they so choose and um they can uh reach me either at my office uh their Workforce Connection um or we also have a a flyer with an email that they can register on there directly uh if anybody is interested in a flyer I will be holding them and we'll pass them out after the uh the meeting thank you for having us does anybody have any [Music] questions right thank you all we appreciate it thank you next is pets of the week with Amy def Felix hello everyone I'm Amy def Felix with the Animal Services Center of the msia valley and go ahead and get this up and we'll start presenting the pets of the week we start off with our cat of the week this week his name is Tommy his number is 73009 and he says I'm a handsome and friendly boy that was picked up as a stray with my brother my brother has since found his forever home so it's my turn now I'm ready to turn my life from being a street cat into being a spoiled indoor only house cat loving my forever family as much as I can and then we also have our dog of the week her name is Frosty her number is 64146 and she says I'm a funloving and energetic girl looking for an active and loving family I'm still pretty young so I have energy that i' like to burn off by playing with toys and going out for walks at the end of the day I'd love to wind down with some pets and Cuddles from a loving family I hope it can be yours and then we have one adoption event this Saturday March at 16th not the 11th that's today um we'll be there from 10:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. and we will be at organ Mountain Organics so that address is 1300 El Road in case you need it we'll have adoptable dogs there um ready to go home ready to meet you and ready for you guys to fall in love and then we have our our links um we have our main website ascmv toorgle podcasts where our podcast gets uploaded monthly and that's all I have thank thank you okay thank you Amy next on the agenda uh 3.1 the fifth semiannual police audit report presented by the oir group good afternoon Mr Mayor counselors I'm Viola P City auditor and today we have the O group with us to present the fifth semiannual police audit report to council so I'd like to introduce our presenters today Miss Teresa magula and Mr Steven Connelly thank you Viola and good afternoon Mr Mayor and and council members I'm Steve Conley and this is my my colleague Teresa as Viola just said uh we are back here for the fifth time to present to council uh our semiannual report on the Los cruus police department and uh we certainly look forward to discussing that with you as you know we are coming from Southern California uh which is our base of operations but we certainly do keep track of of the news in Las cruus especially as it relates to the police department and we wanted to begin today by formally expressing our condolences to the the Los cruus community and and the department in particular about the the loss of Officer Jonah ernandez that was uh deeply saddening news for us uh and and we are extremely um mindful of of the sacrifice that officer ernandez made and and the dangers that go along with with law enforcement on a daily basis part of our job as oversight professionals is is to kind of be a step removed and to to occasionally be critical of law enforcement and to have some suggestions and ideas about doing things differently or better and there's certainly some of that in the report today and we will be talking about that but uh we we wanted to emphasize that we always do our work since since we first started doing this several years ago we do our work uh from a position of respect for the the work law enforcement does and a recognition of the dangers of the job and our hope is always that um there is something constructive and collaborative about our recommendations and and as we say in the report we're we're very um appreciative of the relationship that that we have developed with the police department they are extremely Cooperative with us and responsive to our questions and concerns and and receptive to our ideas that doesn't mean they always agree with them to be sure but uh they always hear us out and and we feel like the dialogue is a very positive thing so thank you uh just a little bit of background I know we have some some new faces on the deis um this afternoon since the last time that we were here uh we have been working in the field of of oversight of law enforcement for more than 20 years now uh that's pretty much our full-time practice area and we work with a number of different jurisdictions providing a range of of independent Police Services our arrangement in Los cruus is that we are kind of plugged into the completed investigations across certain categories of allegations of Officer misconduct and Teresa will get into some of the specifics of that uh but again this is our our fifth semiannual report we have a a presentation for you um regarding an overview of some of our findings from from this particular six-month stretch and then as always we'd be very happy to entertain any any questions that you folks might have so thank you Teresa all right so as Steve mentioned um we are here for the fifth time um every time that we present to you we are looking at a span of about six months worth of cases that we've evaluated um in this particular period we're looking at June 1 to December M 31 of 2023 so it is the cases that were investigated closed and reviewed by our group in that time frame as always our objective is to determine if those investigations were complete objective and thorough so those are the basis for our um analysis and our reviews and we also take a look at whether the actions um from the Department side were appropriate and fair based on the evidence that was provided in that that investigation and then of course we always have some demographics to provide um for your review and evaluation in this particular time frame we had two types of Investigations that we review and those are the kinds that we review um in every period one of those are the one category is the internal investigations so these are cases that were initiated by the department um typically by Department leadership a supervisor recognized an issue um sometimes lieutenants and above sometimes it's at the sergeant level that realized that an issue occurred and it should be a formal investigation in this period we saw seven of those cases one of those was a critical incident um which means an incident that involved the use of deadly force it was an officer involved shooting that occurred here in your city in 201 20 um and you might be asking yourselves why are we now looking at it in March of 2024 we'll get into some of the details of that later in our presentation but suffice to say for now that these typically take a protracted timeline it is a lengthy amount of time given the amount of investigation and different levels of review that have to occur and so this came to us um in in that period last year others involved the use of physical force that the department itself in reviewing the incident found may have warranted additional review we saw one vehicle Pursuit and we also saw a variety of procedural issues like report writing was not done in a timely way there were several that were related to the Department's code of conduct and the code of conduct is a kind of umbrella for a whole host of different kinds of potential misconduct it ranged from things like discourtesy use of profanity all the way to um Mis uh perhaps truthfulness um failing to adhere to an administrative investigation's requirements around confidentiality and so on so it's a whole host of things that are covered in that particular general order called the code of conduct the second kind of complaint um invest instigation that we review are these external investigations external investigations are those cases that are brought to the police department by someone who had an encounter with a Los crusa Police Department employee and was dissatisfied for one reason or another they bring those complaints through the formal citizen complaint process we had 12 of those cases I and as you can imagine the most uh frequent type of allegation in these are again those code of conduct so so an officer was discourteous to me um I perceived that the officer didn't take my report seriously and didn't complete it in a timely way in this period we also saw about four cases related to the improper release of information or Department information used for personal use um and of course this is something that is of concern and was of concern to the department um these cases involved individuals who were employees of the police department who used their um own um status as a peace officer to gain access to information that otherwise would not have been available to a member of the public the department really quickly put in some safeguards around sharing information and access to information which we felt was very appropriate um and so we will look forward to not seeing these types of allegations in the future given the new guard rails that are up with respect to how to access systems and having to have a specific case number to access information and so on and in this period we also saw two uses of force um that the complainants deemed um were excessive in their opinion um I will take this time to remind you all that unless it is a critical incident like an officer involved shooting or a complaint by a member of the public that involves a use of force we will not be to typically looking at uses of force across the board so these are only the uses of force that are brought to us through the types of cases that are within our scope of work back to you now the one more for you one more for me we like to keep everyone guessing who's gonna in this period we saw a total of 98 allegations and if you've been tracking how many allegations have been framed because I know this is of Paramount importance to all of you the number in this period has shot up dramatically um Steve will talk a little bit about why that is um but in short you should know that of those 98 allegations 44 of them were sustained which means that the department determined that misconduct did occur and provided the appropriate disciplinary action as a result of that misconduct having occurred 37 of them were exonerated and 10 were unfounded both of those categories indicate that the investigation showed that the misconduct as alleged did not in fact occur or did not occur in the manner in which the complainant um articulated that it occurred and seven fall into this not sustained category that means that the investigation could not determine sufficient with sufficient evidence whether something happened or did not happen and so that falls into this bucket called not sustained um in almost all of the cases we agreed and aligned with the disciplinary excuse me with the finding um in some we had some disagreement around that and we raised that of course to the Chief and to the department um and so some of those um will be uh those particular cases are closed and there's no further action on them but looking forward um we can certainly look forward to having more appropriate findings um that are based on the evidence so as Teresa said that statistically speaking there is an in definite increase in the number of cases that we looked at during this period and the total number of allegations uh and obviously 98 in in 19 total cases so we had uh most of the cases that we looked at involved multiple allegations multiple policy sections that were being scrutinized for for potential violations when you see an increase in a category like misconduct investigations there's obviously an initial impulse to to think this is concerning and and uh it's been our experience that that that isn't necessarily true do we track the the complaints year over year and period by period absolutely and if there's a noteworthy uh shift in that or or spike in that then then we're obviously interested in what might be accounting for it but often times the there there are explanations that are a little more nuanced than the simple idea that wow officers must really be be acting out in more problematic ways and that's generating more of these complaints some of it in this case turns out to be a timing issue when are the cases getting completed so it's not as if all the the complaints were clustered together in one period of time although that does happen and the chief was just telling us you know towards the end of the year last year they experienced a big rise in complaints you know relatively low-level misconduct but a a cluster that didn't necessarily seem to be connected to any particular um basis uh and it's just statistically just something that happens once in a while but I think part of the reason why we had more completed cases is that the department has prioritized a more timely completion of these investigations when they're open this is something that we have talked about repeatedly and emphasized and we really see it as a as a Hallmark of a of an effective discipline process that the the cases are addressed and completed in a timely fashion and I know that that is a priority of Chief stories as well so there was a backlog of cases that was responsible for some of that number secondly with regard to the number of allegations the department seems to be taking a more detailed nuanced approach to um breaking out individual policy VI potential policy violations as they arise in a given case rather than just you using a blanket charge for example that kind of covers some of the different aspects of something that a a resident was complaining about the department will will break out a specific policy section when it has one and and apply an analysis to that in particular so it's not at all unusual for a case to have six or seven different allegations based on on one complaint and another Factor on this you can see the term that the department uses as an AR issues and again we see this as a positive sign in terms of of the the effectiveness of the internal review process when a a resident makes a complaint uh and it gets investigated by the department they're going to address everything that's been brought up by the member of the public which of course is is very appropriate and it's something that we have have really emphasized in our earlier reports but if they identify something else in the course of doing the investigation they look at this case and they figure out that the officer's report was not as effective as it should have been for example or there was a body warn camera issue that the the complaintant may have had no idea existed but the department is like what as we're reviewing this what's why why did this happen what's going on here and they will add that as a as an additional focal point and address the Behavior Uh as part of that investigation and again we see that inclusive approach to be a a positive thing and and an a good way of using the process to to really help to um improve officer performance in terms of the demographics there were 27 different employees named in these cases and we break down the ranks a little bit there are actually a couple um Teresa and I were talking about this this morning as we were going over the presentation in one of the cases and it was actually the officer involved shooting case that Teresa talked about there were there were three sergeants and a lieutenant involved in that incident in in the department response so we keep track of the rank levels of the people that are involved we're always interested in in when supervisors are the subject of allegations because that can be a a weak point uh in in Department investigations not in Los crusis specifically but just kind of generally in law enforcement there's this concern that once people reach the management level their behavior doesn't get scrutinized as rigorously as the rank and file officers and that can be a source of of you know it can be undermining to confidence you know for for the officers within the agency but also obviously it goes against the purpose of the whole exercise so uh we do keep track of when there are supervisors involved and make sure those cases get special attention and that the the officer the the uh subjects of those cases are are being investigated appropriately and thoroughly and the decisions are are supportable so those are basically the the the numbers and again three non-sworn employees uh included in in this grouping of cases we've actually had several more in in other instances and so that's a trend that seems to be reduced uh in the in the more recent reporting that we've done and then in terms of the the outcomes as Teresa said uh there were sustained allegations in a number of the cases that we looked at which is a sign of again A lot of times when it's an internally generated investigation in particular the Department already has concerns about the conduct and and that's what's brought it onto the radar screen in the first place so it's not unusual for those to have a higher percentage of of being sustained but there were a number of of sustained allegations in the in the Resident complaint cases as well the discipline process ranged all the way from a verbal reprimand which is kind of the lowest level of intervention all the way up to to termination um for officers in in some of a couple of the cases that we looked at and this next bullet point is one I really do want to emphasize uh it's one thing to say hey you you violated policy and and here's a a verbal reprimand or it was a low-level issue and here's a written reprimand but not it didn't rise to the level of a suspension and it was not a hugely significant issue one of the things that we've we've really worked with the Department on is the whole idea that the the discipline process unless you're separating the employee from the agency Al together it really should be about changing Behavior correcting behavior and one way to accomplish that besides the consequence is to make sure that people are getting the training that they need uh and that some of the issues weren't just you know mistakes because people didn't understand what they were supposed to be doing and so the department has gotten much better about adding some sort of a counseling or training or debriefing session with the involved officers to make sure that along with the the formal consequence there's some opportunity to to grow and improve uh and then there was one employee terminated prior to the completion of another case we mentioned that uh and I think that the other case gets talked about as well but we mentioned that because to the Department's credit it it followed through with the investigation and did all of the fact finding and made sure that it had a a a firm sense of of what had happened and and that follow through and and addressing issues of Officer performance even when the specific involved officer isn't isn't necessarily anybody that you're having to deal with anymore again that's kind of a best practice that's good to see the department engaging in back to you he so we as I mentioned have a variety of different demographics that we um share with you all related to what we're seeing we have not to date I'm tracking from the start of our time here noticed anything that would indicate that a certain type of policing is happening in any type of location we track the zip code of the complaints um and so we've seen of course there were uh large volume that were initiated in the zip code in which the police department is located um at times that's because those were the internally generated complaints um but there's nothing in the zip code data that would indicate one area is more problematic than others in your city and similar Illy we did not note and have not noted any Trends in the race of the complainant or the race of the complainant respective to the race of the officer um who uh complet who who engaged in a potential misconduct um we had his the race the demographics of the complainants kind of ranged um three white seven Hispanic one black and two of an unidentified race so again nothing that's pointing us um to be concerned about bias based policing um or location bias based policing and I think one of the things to note here is that our sample size is relatively small so when I say there's no Trends it's not a statistically significant analysis to begin with um which is difficult um from the start but certainly we'll keep an eye on that as we move forward and have a larger case volume all right part of our scope of work also involves looking at closed litigation cases so these would be cases that were brought um claims brought against the city of Las Cruses that involved one or more Los cruus Police Department employees we saw four of those cases close in this period that involved a total of eight named employees two of these involved persons that were experiencing a mental health crisis one of those was settled and one was dismissed one involved the execution of an arrest warrant and in that case there was a summary judgment in favor of the Los cruus police department and then one involved a collision an unfortunate collision between a pedestrian and a vehicle um that was caused by a non-sworn employee crossing guard that case was also settled so now we get to what we love to do which is present our findings for this particular period as we started I mentioned that we had one of the critical incidents the officer involved shooting from 2020 and this is our first opportunity to look at the way the department investigates a critical incident so it's the first of these cases that we've been able to review and I thought that both for um the education of the members of the public who might be watching as well as a refresher for folks here it might be helpful to know the types of reviews that happen along with a critical incident um so when a critical incident occurs here in your city it triggers um the officer involved task force um and this group is a is established in 2005 I believe with a memorandum of understanding between a variety of local agencies it is the state police the University Police and the sheriff as well as the Las Cruses Police Department that team of investigators is reviewing the invest the incident from a criminal perspective so they are doing the criminal investigation as to whether the actions that occurred during the course of a critical incident were legal or illegal there is also of course the involvement of the district attorney and at the same time the Los Cruses Police Department is pro is initiating an internal what is called an administrative investigation of that critical incident so they are looking for any violations of policy any misconduct that occurred so different from the criminal aspect is the administrative aspect and that is something that the department does internally so the task force and Internal Affairs go to the scene of a critical incident and they begin the investigation at that point once the on scene investigation is complete the criminal side the task force engages in their criminal investigation and the administrative side typically is on pause that is so that those two don't cross and contaminate each other the case then is submitted to the DA for his review um what we see what I mentioned at the top is that sometimes that review process takes quite some time in our experience over many jurisdictions we see that it can take months sometimes years in this case it was a three-year process which we felt was extraordinarily long um and so we've spoken to the chief um about working with your agency partners and the district attorney to really try to bring that timeline in so one of the questions of course is okay in the three years that this is all waiting and being investigated what's going on right now we have an incident that occurred and three years have gone by um to the Department's credit they initiate almost immediately following a critical incident a debrief and a review of that incident internally they are looking for tactical concerns equipment concerns or Department wide concerns that can be remedied immediately so that you don't wait that whole length of time before fixing something that might need fixing in the short term at the completion of the DA's review and when the da provides um his or her opinion on that case or finding on that case then that administrative investigation reopens resumes and the officers uh will be held accountable from a Department administrative perspect perspective so you see there's a lot that happens in the course of these critical incidents and we were fortunate that in this particular incident we were able to review kind of the total package um we found both the task force and the Department's investigations to be thorough um we advised and the department has accepted that the administrative investigation really be a holistic view of the critical incident um in this particular case the administrative investigation was only looking at the use of force itself so the actual action of shooting um and we felt there was space to look at a more a broader view of that incident um was was the supervisor response appropriate were deescalation tactics attempted um what was the Medical Aid rendered Etc so there's pieces of that that we felt could have been flushed out and reviewed um at the end of the day the findings would have been the same um but we like to see that kind of critical analysis happen in house and as I've mentioned the department is doing that kind of critical analysis now um so again we're looking at that timel lag um that's a little frustrating and now they are doing that moving forward so a couple more uh slides to summarize some of our findings from this report one of the things that we have expressed interest in in the past and that that the council has expressed interest in is the Department's response to use of force incidents maybe that don't rise to the level of a of a critical incident officer involved shooting that kind of thing and we get a small window into those when cases end up being referred into Internal Affairs and it gives us some insight into how the Department's normal supervisory review process works one of the things that we noticed and and certainly wanted to affirm is the the development and kind of increased use of of what the department calls a use of force Cadre this is an idea that Chief story has been very um instrumental in in supporting and putting together and it basically is a panel of of department members who are experts in tactics and training and use of force techniques and they will get together to discuss a case a specific Force incident that has been referred to them and they do a very very methodical analysis of it and when necessary if they have concerns about the the um legitimacy of the use of force in terms of compliance with training and policy that they will then refer that to Internal Affairs so we've seen a couple of the cases that have been the fruits of that process and we were extremely impressed with the the objectivity and the thoroughness and the rigor with which those cases are being looked at and they weren't necessarily significant Force cases it's just the initial supervisor looked at it had some concerns referred it over to this group and and they were able to break down very specifically what some of the concerns and issues were so we consider that to be a very positive development the second bullet on this slide relates to interviews of of subject officers that is a kind of a recurring theme of ours it's to us in many ways it's it's one of the critical elements of the whole process because it's really the officer's opportunity or the employees opportunity to explain himself or herself and really you know potentially it's one of the the key learning moments of the whole experience because I know that that can be a stressful thing for officers to go through we really try to emphasize the objectivity and thoroughness of that process and we will that's so that's always something that we're going to zero in on in this case um one of the things that we have talked to the chief about and and recommend it overtly is going ahead and actually doing the interviews in cases where the evidence is not definitive as the slide says uh there is a certain not every case needs to have the the subject officers be interviewed there's some it's the evidence is very definitive because of the body warn camera and there's really no need to to proceed any further but when it looks like there has been misconduct or when we're not exactly sure one way or the other we're always going to uh advocate in favor of bringing the officer and getting answers to any questions that you're even if you're 95% sure take that extra time to to interview the officer there's a tension there between you know the resource and the efficiency versus the the thoroughness and completeness but we're always going to encourage the department to lean in the direction of of interviewing people uh as as a key component of these cases and then a couple of things that we know noticed in this in this last group ideally it's going to be a higher ranking employee we had a case where an investigator was interviewing a supervisor and that Dynamic was sort of inherently awkward we thought the investigator did a professional job but there just in a paramilitary organization it probably makes more sense when a supervisor is involved to have a a peer or or Superior officer doing the interview so uh the object ity and thoroughness is something that we're going to take a look at again to the Department's credit it's going to record those those interviews they're going to be we watch the video and the audio and we get a a real sense and when you think about public skepticism about the effectiveness of the internal review process this idea that that you they're just covering up for officers or glossing over misconduct and not taking these things seriously these interviews are really one of the places where the objectivity and effectiveness of the of the process is is going to be most apparent so we put a lot of emphasis into it we have several recommendations uh in in this report and in the past and the department has been responsive but it continues to be an area that we're going to be paying attention to and then uh again under under procedural recommendations or observations one of the things that we have advocated and that the department has has taken some big steps forward in in pursuing is alternative complaint resolution model and that basically just means for a low-level allegation of misconduct rather than having the department do its traditional investigation and then send the complainant a you know a three-line letter at the end of it telling them what the outcome was and having that be the end of it there are a lot of jurisdictions that that if the if the circumstances align and the complaint really is an issue where getting the the off officer and the member of the public who made the complaint together with a neutral third party and just kind of talking clarifying misunderstandings explaining perspectives we we have found that to be a very constructive exercise in a lot of places and several of the complaints that we've looked at the complaintants are very sincere but they're just they only have part of the story or they're seeing it through their lens and and not getting it from the officer's perspective and sometimes again the department is doing a perfectly appropriate inves ation they're reaching a perfectly appropriate conclusion that there was no misconduct but we're sympathetic that that's not very satisfying to the complaining who doesn't really understand the mechanics or the rationale behind the decision and this model would be an alternative to that that that again we have seen work the department has has put together a dra very detailed draft policy about how it might work and we've had the opportunity to weigh in on that we actually were talking with with some Department folks this morning about the concept and and it's coming along and and we will be interested to see uh if if progress gets made on it because we think it's it's a good outlet for some of the the issues that we see and then this is the last time we're going to trade I promise Teresa back to you so several of the cases in this period involved an individual who was experiencing a mental health crisis um varying degrees of that as we are um well aware and the biggest takeaway for us is that there are so many different models and practices around how law enforcement engages with these individuals who are experiencing crisis um we have seen that this department is responsive by providing the lightest touch possible um they recently implemented a general order that reflects the best practices that we've seen Nationwide around engaging with individuals who are experiencing a crisis all the way including to the point of making a determination if law enforcement is even the appropriate response and me certainly your city has done quite a lot with respect to providing supportive resources um to either divert law enforcement calls or to provide services after a law enforcement call or even during um with your mih program with the light program project um and so we looked at these incidents through those lenses of whether those types of light touches were reflected in the way that officers responded and we saw that they were very much so the important piece of this of course is when an incident turns and that law enforcement response moves from someone experiencing a mental health crisis to someone who has now engaged in criminal activity we are looking to see that turn be very carefully evaluated if any force is used what types of force were those appropriate were all of the steps leading up to it um used appropriately and so really the takeaway for us is these incidents happen sometimes law enforcement must be involved and what was that what did that involvement look like was it appropriate so for us really um encouraging the department to review these very critically um constantly to make sure that they are gathering any lessons learned from them we also saw as Steve mentioned earlier that directed training is occurring much more frequently um the department has retained a police legal expert um that individual is contracted to provide more frequent trainings um one of the really interesting and creative ways that they're doing training is a bathroom briefing flyer it's a really simple flyer that's posted up in bathrooms and locker rooms with kinds of Concepts that you might want to have just readily available like when can I use my Taser and listed out you know the appropriate circum cumstances for that so we thought that that was a really creative um way to continue to provide training on an ongoing basis and in many different ways finally as I mentioned we were concerned to see that there were several cases around release of information and information used inappropriately um so as I mentioned the department has really tightened up those guard rails on how to access information we also saw a handful of cases that involved um challenging interpersonal relationships with individuals within the department out of the department former employees and to his credit Chief story identified that pretty readily right away um and he drafted and provided for our review um of fraternization policy which really lists out the types of relationships um that are appropriate among LCPD personnel and and the actions that one must take if one is choosing to engage in those relationships and we hope that's going to clear up some of the interpersonal issues that are that we've seen in these complaints and finally as you are all very well aware um in your January council meeting you graciously approved four up to four Community meetings um so that we can begin to have a more robust engagement with your community and we are really looking forward to hosting those um the meeting times and the dates will be coming in the next few months um we will be coordinating with the city's infrastructure to be able to have those be facilitated broadcast and announced um so that we can really start to hear from community and we appreciate that addition to our work so then the last thing I would say and certainly we welcome many questions that that uh the council has uh this presentation is is as you know a distillation of a a public report that I think is 150 pages long in in its entirety so first of all gold star to anybody who made it through the the whole thing but secondly we wanted to make the public aware of that remind them that this is available and I think one of the key features of the model here in Los crusis with regard to oversight is the whole idea of transparency and giving a window into processes that generally have been confidential and kind of secluded from from a lot of public scrutiny or exposure and the the model that Los cruus chose the the whole reporting feature is really a key aspect of that so we do the individual case reports along the way as as the cases come in and we process them over the course of the six-month period and then we compile all of those individual case drafts uh and and then provide some overview which kind of tracks what we were presenting today but again we encourage anybody uh from the public to to please do um review that report which is available uh to the extent that you have interest and want to learn more about these processes so thank you all right thank you any questions from uh Council frus thank you for a very good report uh good report card for our LCPD um so on page 14 or excuse me page um would you please explain what uh directed training means uh you said it was occurring more frequently and there was also maybe that was on page 14 and then there was release of information and fraternization that one what does that mean they can't be friends they can't socialize with each other or can't talk to each other what what does that mean yeah so to your first question the directed training would be if an officer uh if the through the course of Investigation it was determined that misconduct occurred and sometimes even if misconduct didn't occur but the they identify that the officer might need a little refresher on a certain topic um those officers are directed by command to attend a certain type of training um it can be as simple as perhaps you need to go to a class on report writing so that you can be a better report writer and the officer will take that class it will be logged in their training record and hopefully that issue is remediated through that directed training um fraternization is really as as Steve mentioned it's a the structure of this organization is such that there are ranks and so if a supervisor is having a a relationship and I'm meaning of a romantic nature typically with someone who is a subordinate or vice versa um that can create some challenges for the reporting structure um for assignments um could indicate you know or give the indication of preferential treatment and so on and so a policy around that really essentially is telling those members who wish to engage in those types of relationships of course of they're choosing the types of reporting that they have to do so to let for example command know we're in a relationship I should not be reporting to this person person they should not be within my direct chain of command for example so that person or those persons involved would be reassigned or whatever it would be up to the department how to manage that most appropriately I watch blue Buds and I you get the sense of it and uh what's her name Edith jenko and whatever they're always together but um at any rate um you also mentioned promising new developments so are those U um you saw that there were promising new developments in so far as um the uh findings in procedural matters or just generally yeah that was referring to the alternative complaint resolution model that Steve spoke of so to us that's really something that is a new development for the department and that we think will really pay off both for the community as well as for the Department okay thank you very much thank you Mr Mayor anyone else yes councel Grant thanks so much great to see you again I think your first report um was one of my first Council meetings so we all kind of came on at the same time and it's been interesting to watch this uh to watch this develop and one thing that I always do like to point out if it doesn't show up in the slideshow um is that you share in the larger report um numbers of external complaints versus calls for service and it's always such an Illuminating number so for this six-month period 85,86 th000 calls for service with 12 external complaints um so I always think that you know sometimes it's going to be overwhelming when you're reading everything after everything after everything and it's so illustrative to see this is a vanishingly small number of calls for service that end up um with these kind of complaints and yeah overall I just think I think this report more than any is starting to reflect the shifts in culture that I think we've all been really happy to see and um just want to shout out our leadership thank you so much for all that you're doing as we uh as we try to grow and evolve so thank you yes anyone yeah I have another question um so there is a lot of intermittent training I know there's a law firm that comes down and um in fact they're in Los Angeles um and U how often is that and how does that work with with what OE does oir does I see the chief is making his way to the podium so I'm going to defer to him we were actually talking about this this morning yeah because I think that that kind of training that they do um reflects a lot of the improvements here might be wrong mayor councelor flotes Jeremy story police chief when it comes to training that's a very broad topic so I'll narrow it I mean it's happening weekly really with briefing training it's happening da um when it comes to Legal training which I think is what you're you're asking about um The Firm you're talking about we brought in from Southern California for specific classes but our New Mexico attorney that we retained is doing stuff all the time so he's teaching things like report writing search and seizure update his regular search and seizure class use of force um he's taking part in scenarios he's doing briefing trainings he's doing the bathroom bulletins and so we are already seen the fruits of that and in a year or two it's really going to show how much of a benefit that's had cuz it does take time it's a lot of information but um I don't know that we can increase the frequency much more uh without completely breaking the system he's he's pushing we're pushing him pretty hard and the staff and the supervisors pretty hard to get all this training done and how long have you had that outside firm um do their training and I think the um fire department is also involved with that right uh not for the legal side of things um but I've been bringing them in for classes for 3 years but we've only had him for less than a year probably about 6 seven months as a actual contract where he's doing the frequencies a lot more great thank you Chief coun thank you thank you Mr Mayor go ahead May Bren thank you um Chief before you said down I just really quick for you my other one said just to comment then I have another question for you um Kia Colleen what is it k k can you give us an update on the certification process yes and I don't know do we have a percentage by chance no um we are making our way through the proofs right now um and just for context we've been accredited by the municipal league for the past 10 11 years so it's not like this is the first time seeking accreditation klea is just kind of the next level and it is more cumbersome but um my guess would be approximately 50% through proofs um we have dedicated more people to that section and just change the accreditation manager um and so that delayed things a little bit but I think it's going to speed things up in the long run okay so I'm hopeful was just curious thank you on the this is also curiosity for either of you on the report the LCPD management response is that usually from Chief or is that is okay um thank you and then I I guess I just wanted to oh wait no one question before I have a comment on the um Community meetings will you be reporting to us in a similar manner okay yeah the intent is to hopefully combine the community sessions with a report like this um so that we would report to you we would meet with Community we would be able to report out back to you about what community might be concerned with um so it really is we're looking to have it be a pretty fluid process where this all comes together yeah perfect thank you absolutely and then I just wanted to say in relation to the Mental Health crisis calls that I think for you know the mission originally for me for bringing you all on was around accountability and transparency but I think more and more I also feel like it's a lot of policy learnings for us as well I think even as I hear Chief Smith with the fire department talking about how much their field is changing how more and more they're responding to behavioral health calls we've been having a big conversation about Fentanyl and what that does to people's bodies and minds and the reality that both fire and police are sort of the front lines of that and I think for me it's important to hear these things too because I think it gives us um an important Insight on what are it's not just their jobs to handle this right like this is really a community effort and so we have to understand also what the resources is that they need I think project light has been transformative frankly and um I think we have a lot of work to do around opiod crisis and responding to mental crisis in that way but I do just want to just reiterate um my gratitude towards you all and to the police department for collaborative effort that I think um has brought about a lot of important policy changes and I think a lot more to come as well especially when it relates to this session so thank you anyone else on Council no well um just want to say thank you I have to Echo what councelor Graham said I've seen some of these reports come this is the fifth one I see the progress I see the work in progress going in and uh the partnership the collaborating looks well uh very good and so thank you I just want to ask uh Chief story or staff if they wanted to add anything else on this presentation on on their perspective on the internal how it's going thank you mayor um I'll give kind of my my big picture with oir and and we have many conversations that we don't always agree on everything we go back and forth and the way I see that I've G given this metaphor before is you know when a tree when you plant a tree and you're trying to make it stronger you know you stake it so that the wind doesn't uproot it but you don't want to push too hard because then the tree either would be uprooted or wouldn't grow but if they're if you stake it so tight that they cannot move has no pressure the the tree doesn't get strong either hopefully this makes sense so what I'm saying is that pressure and some um forcing you to think about things differently ultimately does make you stronger as long as it's within balance and O has done that for us um I think if you zoom out for this entire period you you'll see a lot of positive change that resulted because of our relationship with o that might not have happened otherwise so I still appreciative of this relationship and I actually enjoy the conversations we have even when we don't agree thank you thank you Chief was there anyone from the public anybody and the members of the public that uh had any comments okay not seeing anyone thank you thank you thank you okay next on the agenda U fiscal year 2024 2025 budget review uh Finance director Leanne deuch for some tall people were up here well good afternoon mayor council for the record my name is lean DEH I'm your Finance director um Jacqueline rubacava is your Grant and budget um manager she is out sick today so I'm filling in for her this is a team event so um I will be doing my part and then I will be turning it over to um Jose Travino who is our interim uh deputy director and Barbara benom which as you know is our chief administrative officer so as the mayor was saying this is a recap we typically like to have two work session uh right after the uh budget Retreat and then of course we'll have another one in April and I'll give you the schedule in a few minutes what we're going to be covering the journey continues and what we're going to be working on is giving you a little bit of a brief recap of the budget Retreat actually um focusing on day one um the mayor and Council was given an opportunity to tell us about what your goals are what your vision is what your priorities are for the next fiscal year Mr peely LED that and so we we did we listen to you of course we do but we took lots of notes and so we want to sort of gather all those notes together and what we want to do with this is we want to show you how actually the vision that you're seeing or that you have is actually build uh building into our own for our fy2 but so we're very excited about that then we're going to talk about the telshore fund uh the Cannabis excise tax and then the opioid settlement as well so these are all different funds that we did not talk about at the budget Retreat and these are opportune times for you to give us some feedback on um how you'd like to see us use these funds and just give you an overview of what is available in these funds as well so I wanted to start with giving you especially since we have a couple of new faces up on um the dis talking a little bit about Elevate L Cruis um I will honestly tell you how we budget is we take Elevate Elevate L Cruis which is our 20year um comprehensive plan it um gives us a long-term vision for sustainable growth and transformation for over the next 20 years so we use this as a tool to help us with building our budget every single year and within Elevate there are three themes and I wanted to just briefly go over those themes because then you'll see how we wo them into your recap that you gave us from day one of the budget Retreat so um the first one is community environment so when you see the if you look in Elevate L crues mine is well used um got tabs everywhere and use it a lot when I'm doing the budgeting and so this is what Elevate looks like the book and so in there are the three three themes and when you see the theme CE that is for Community environment um and these are some of the actions or task or visions that you see under that CE Community environment the next theme is community prosperity and these are some of the task or goals that are under Community prosperity and then your next one is CL which is community livability and this this is a more bigger one it has Public Safety Arts and Cultural Public Health neighborhoods parts and Recreation so there are your three them themes for Elevate L crues also wanted to go into our city strategic plan because in the Matrix that I'm going to be showing you I'm going to be showing you the priorities that you gave is and I want to show you how they fit into Elevate how they fit into our strategic plan and how they're actually fitting into the Departments as well and by the way report card early we did really great so under our city strategic plan themes we have six Community Prosperity education and Community Services environmental sustainability uh Capital Improvements and infrastructure communication involvement followup and of course Public Safety and then I wanted to I just took one side because also in our strategic plan we talk about the employees and also the council's um values the city values and I thought these were really great values because we have a poster that comes from gfoa on ethics and what our values are and a lot of these if not all of these values are in with our budget and also with our accounting reporting from gfoa um of course as you see being fiscal responsible profession ISM respect and transparency so here's how we did it so here's the Matrix the budget Retreat these are your Council priorities and as you can see Jacqueline put a little note on the bottom says this is not an exhaustive list there were other things that were discussed that day as you well know and so these are the things that we pulled out of your discussion and of course I'm not going to go through every single one but the there's four columns in there and as you can see the First Column is Elevate l crues so this is how your priority fits into Elevate okay I did not point out who said who uh these are a mixture of the mayor and all of the council together um and and a lot of these you said all of you said you know like Public Safety having a safer City all of you said that during that day as well so we just didn't tag it on who actually said it at the meeting uh but you can see the CL the CP um you know community livability community Prosperity you can see how all of these on this page are in our city strategic plan and you can also see when we say both by the way that means that not only is it budgeted and operation for the department but it's also budgeted in the CIP as well so that's what both that's what we mean by that if it only says yes and CIP then it's only in the CIP it's not in operations uh but if it only has a yet then it's only for operations sorry I meant to put that little caveat in there so as you can see I'm taking like downtown revitalization it falls under Community Prosperity the four being the goal that's in our Elevate book and then it is in the city strategic plan and yes it is budgeted in the CIP pretty much probably under the tid because that's what downtown revitalization is uh safer safer Community you can see it hits a lot of the the community livability the city strategic plan and then also the department request uh next priorities I think we have about four slides of priorities um we got a lot of information from you that day um Market jobs events transportation and transportation is very much into Elevate as you can see is community livability uh the library master plan uh the Animal Service Center of msia valley as you can see is not an Elevate not in the city strategic plan and it is not a departmental request the Animal Service Center is a joint power agreement it is a jpa it is not a department so it is in our budget as a um expense that we give to help out our portion to the Animal Service Center but it's not in any particular department and it is not listed in our city strategic plan or in Elevate so I just wanted to point that out that's why it's blank all the way across uh sustainability this was mostly reducing plastic pollution um as you can see Community environment it is in the city strategic plan and then the East Mesa which is in the CIP um the police oversight is in the Elevate uh going down to realtime crime Center is in Elevate under Community livability it is in the city strategic plan and it is both in the CIP and in their operating as well um I will say a little uh on the boxing gym I just found out just a few minutes ago that it is budgeted in a department uh we're going to double check on that yeah we're gonna double check okay um under our last slide under the uh MRA it is in our Elevate Las cruus it is in the strategic business plan and yes it is uh budgeted in one of the Departments um the reason pay increases that was mentioned at the uh budget Retreat however it is um you will see what where are what we are estimating or what we are proposing I should say uh at the April budget meeting for the pay increases at this time we are we do have something in there for pay increases however it has not gone through uh Vint with the city manager and with the acms and with our CAO as well and then of course affordable housing as well with that I'm going to turn it over to um Miss Travino and she's going to discuss telshore fund good afternoon Mr Mayor and council members my name is Josie trino I'm the finance inum deputy director and I will do a brief overview of the tore fund and cannabis excise tax so we'll start with the tore fund the tore fund as stated in the title is a restricted fund now what this means is that the fund can only be spent for specific purposes as stated in the resolution in this case it was 051 128 sorry I didn't read the the whole definition but uh if you can read what it says here it's to support the continued physical mental developmental emotional and social well-being safety and housing needs of city of Las Cruses residents and to improve the lives of sick Indigent or lowincome people of the city of Las Cruses here we see the market value for the tore fund and this is in millions so what Market value it simply means that the amount of money that we would get if we were to sell so the latest information we have is of December 2023 and for the last four quarters it has uh remained pretty consistent and I'll give you some time to look at this and then I'll move on okay and here here we have what was budgeted for fiscal year 24 and from that what is requested for fiscal year 25 so we'll start with the first one pedana Apartments the budget is 3 million uh given that this will not be spent in fiscal year 24 it is carried over from fiscal year 24 to fisal year 25 so you'll see these two right here are the same amount you see an asri it just means it's a carryover from fiscal year 24 for three sisters Apartments 2.4 million was budgeted and it's project that nothing will be used so we're going to roll over the full amount to fiscal year 25 for fiscal year 24 there was uh 870,000 budgeted for a Transit Grand match of that an estimated 49 has been used so the balance that's going to carry over it's 87 ,000 then we move to msia Valley Community of Hope for Mano imano and the budget for fiscal year 24 was 543,000 and the fiscal year 25 request is 63,000 next is Health Public Services the budget for fiscal year 24 and the fisal year 25 request uh remain the same at 600,000 uh we had had a resolution 24-31 and that was for land purchase at 99 at on Amador Avenue and that was 438,000 that was a one-time non reoccurring expense therefore the fiscal year 25 request is zero the next is Kasa the peregrinos approved through a resolution and this was due to the increase uh food there was an inflation so request was made for fiscal year 24 for $100,000 again this is a non reoccurring expense therefore the FY 25 is a zero request uh we next have messia value Community of Hope uh it's the homeless opportunity program and the fiscal year 24 and the fiscal year 25 remain the same of 75,000 so the total budgeted for fiscal year 24 was 8 million and FY 25 the request is 6.6 million the difference between one and another is some of these are requested during the year in resolutions so where fy2 there's a request it doesn't mean that there may not be one later on as these other ones were uh resolutions that were brought on through the year we next go to cannabis excise tax this is unrestricted funds what this means is there hasn't been any uh special purposes appropriated to be used for these funds pretty much you can use them for um anything you wish that is of course um approved by government Accounting Standards so this applies to retail sales of non-medical cannabis products the St uh sales of cannabis started on April 1st 2022 and the tax is currently at 12 %c there are some possible uses that are going to be presented and those are mras or realtime crime Center I'm not sure if we're going to present them but these are some possible uses where we have that that have been brought up so the total revenue as of April 1st 2022 received is about 1.5 million we're projecting ending the fiscal year at a another 300 ,000 which would bring the revenues up to 1.8 million from April 2022 to the end of June 20123 with this I will now hand it over to Barbara thank you Josie Barbara benom for the record so the other source of Revenue we're going to uh just highlight today is the opioid settlement funds that we have started to receive those were settlements with Distributors manufacturers and retailers the city's portion is anticipated to be just under $10 million and I've also indicated what the county and Sunland Park will receive so you get an idea for our entire region the the funds that we will be receiving they do cover a 17-year period period and I'll show you in just a sec the amount that we have received to date and then what we expect to receive over over the course of that 17-year period the use of the funds is governed by a settlement agreement what we uh refer to as uh schedule exhibit e excuse me uh that outlines um the use of funds to address the harms of opioid use disorder I'll go over some of those examples as well and then the funds um are held separately they are required to be held separately so that we can accurately track what we're receiving reconcile that against the anticipated uh amounts that we uh should be receiving and then we can report um transparently on what's being spent from these particular funds for what purposes so this chart shows for each classification of defendant whether they're distributors or particular entity um what the settlement amount is in total that's the blue column and then what we have received to date you'll see that for some of the defendants we have received the entire amount of settlement payment for example from J&J for others we have yet to receive we received only a portion for example Walgreens is slated to pay over $4.2 million we've received $1 165,00 000 again according to the schedule of distributions that we're going to receive over time um so we have received 3.4 million to date um and again the anticipated amount over the entire period is just under $10 million again we're going we we do track this very closely and this is reported on our website as well so that folks can see what we are receiving I mentioned the exhib allowable uses for the funds they really fall under three broad categories treatment and prevention and and other uses the treatment includes things like medication assisted treatment um um improvements and investments in the criminal justice system for prevention um programs to address overprescribing misuse and overdoses and in the other category um items like training training and research when we went through the allowable uses and I'm not going to read all of these but we wanted to look at what some examples might be in particular some that um might be uh related to things that our departments or programs might be able to utilize the funds for so you just see some examples of these including uh media and public education campaigns youth F Focus programs for preven Etc so the timeline for when we will be um further discussing expenditures for these funds is shown on this slide as you know we established the opioid advisory Council last summer that is the group that is working with NMSU Crimson research to develop A needs assessment for our community to understand what the recommended uses would be to address the needs of our community um that committee includes people from the state as well so that we can coordinate and Not Duplicate efforts between the state the county and the city in the use of the funds so we are underway right now with Crimson research that includes um uh interactions and uh Community input for the needs assessment once that study is completed and and NMSU who um provides the data the committee or the council sorry The opio Advisory Council will be reviewing um and making recommendations based on that Community needs assessment and then those recommendations will be provided separately to the city council and the County Commission that's separately because the city is receiving its own distribution of settlement funds as is the county so the governing bodies of both the city and the county ultimately make the decisions on how the funds shall be spent um that might address the recommendations that are made from the um Council or of course um your decisions could be informed by other information our departments might also propose uh use of funds as well but you will have hopefully all the information you need to make some um good decisions about the use of these funds and then of course once your decisions are made we'll come back with a budget adjust in order to expend those funds we'll be developing implementation plans and tracking and Reporting mechanisms so right now that while we are receiving funds um into our budget we don't have any expenditures budgeted because of the the timing for the recommendations that'll come back to you so you will see those um as as budget adjustments as we enter the fy2 fiscal year all right and I'll turn it back over to Leanne for next steps mayor council for the record lean tush your Finance director just to give you what the next steps are um we have our next work session and public hearing we're going to do them one one in the same sometimes we have a separate public hearing uh we'll have it like in the morning or lunchtime uh but this year um we're going to do the work session and the public hearing at the same time so it's just one uh presentation and we used to do that a few years ago and then we separated and we didn't actually have a whole lot of people that would show up to the public hearing so we just decided to put them together we will have your budget books to you approximately two weeks before that um that April 22nd meeting I'm trying to shoot around April the 8th to have those books you should be uh they should be on your desk we'll hand deliver those to you uh so that way you can take notes go through them and so we'll have that we will also have the electronic version as well we have to have that per the charter up on our website at the library and also with our city clerk so we'll have all of that uh available even on the website as well we're working with Pio to put that up there and then we will be bringing um a resolution um one for to adopt the budget and also another resolution to adopt the CIP as well um with that um discussion time if you have any questions um we're going to be taking down lots of note we W notes we want to hear from you um if there's something specific that you want to talk about with the funds that we uh discussed today we're here to answer your questions and if we don't know I promise you I can find out and shoot you that information so thank you lean any questions oh Council Flor thank you Mr Mayor and thank you MRH And Mr Rino I have a question for Mr aino sure thank you um for your presentation I have a question that goes to the services of the telshore fund and um the entities that receive uh the benefit of that fund and uh I have a constituent who asked me how it was that the the different uh 501 c3s the recipients uh were determined and whether um those that do fall under the categories listed uh they all go a lot to health and whatnot but um how exactly do how is it publicized and how often is it publicized and is there a call uh for lack of a better word out to uh 501c3's uh to apply and then how are they selected Mr Mayor uh councelor Flores Josie trino I will call uh Natalie Green uh as these are funds that uh go through her area she walked out okay so mayor council of fles lean tush for the record um it's my understanding that she puts out an RFP request for proposals those proposals come in I think she has an advisory committee that goes through these proposals and then um she takes those funds and then she distributes them to you know she has a the $600,000 and she tries to I think fill as much of that money as she can and did she come in okay she's not here but um my question goes to um who makes the final determination and how is that reached I you said there's an advisory committee so that advisory committee is only it's not a directive it's an advise so who ultimately makes the decision and does only one person make that decision or is no um mayor council Flores um this advisory committee I think M you know advises on what they should she actually brings to council a resolution and in that resolution it lists who all the proposals and how much they W so at that time you have the opportunity to um you know to to say yes or no even at that time at the resolution yeah yeah I'm aware of that but um who who uh who all the the designes of the recipients are um taken from uh a pool or anyone who qualifies is given um the money or the you know the receive fund money how how is it that um so if there's x amount of dollars and then there's um 10 applications they're reviewed and once they're reviewed um who determines uh who is going to receive the money and um how how are the amounts uh factored in all that sort of stuff it's it's a mystery to me and I haven't been able to get a clear answer so thank you Mr Mayor councilor flotes so there is a health related Public Services Program Guide with the application so we'll make sure you get a copy of that and it has a step-by-step process on the allocation methodology um it is a competitive process conducted every other year and so we are in the middle of that process right now uh there off the top of my head I want to say there was about 15 to 18 applicants uh those applications are reviewed by the Health and Human Services advisory committee and they present to that committee and answer any questions and then that committee votes and makes a recommendation to Council on who should be funding and that recommendation meeting is either this week I think it's this week maybe tomorrow um I saw the agenda go out um and there's a a staff liais on that monitors that committee and um in so far as the applications by the uh B1 c3s that are applying for those funds uh who reviews them and uh how are how is it determined how who makes the ultimate decision I know you you say we make ultimate decision but what we get is what has been narrowed down at your level so we don't get correct we don't get the bulk of the applicants we don't review uh and weigh which um entities will be receiving tail Shore funds uh Mr Mayor councilor flotes the Health and Human Services advisory committee is made up of seven members appointed by each uh counselor on the Das including the mayor and so it's your representatives who are appointed to that board that review those applications and they see all the applications and make those uh recommendations to council for final adoption okay so um but we the council never see those applications we just get the uh whoever however but you make the ultimate decision don't you miss green um M Mr mayor council flotes the Health and Human Services makes the recommendation because they view review the applications um this year's process I myself have not seen the applications I uh I have another staff member who supervises that process but I I do know it's the similar organizations that have previously applied so when uh the decision is made to allocate monies or to fund um the certain 501 c3s um who determines the amount that is uh distributed to them uh Mr Mayor councilor flotes the council has an investment strategy that they adopt every two to four years uh this Council adopted one I believe about two years ago that set a a budgeted amount of 600,000 for the next four fiscal years and so we're now in year three of that 4-year allocation so it's set by this body and this body also adopts the allocation process and so yes but the allocation process that we get is what has been finalized by you or the advisory committee is that correct there's two one is the final recommendations of who should be funded every budget year but the overall program policy determinations is also set by this body so you uh this Council adopts an application and a policy guide that um that outlines how the program is to me managed and run okay so do we get that now or because you say something's coming to us soon so when do we get I can send you a copy of that uh resolution that adopted that process no I see my my question is and and perhaps I'm not framing it correctly my my question is who makes the ultimate decision as to where the funds will be going that 600,000 and you have different um $600,000 and you have different entities applying Mr Mayor councilor flutes you'll make that decision on your May 2nd meeting okay how does your committee for lack of a better word your committee uh reach its uh you know their recommendations and that's what I would like to see quite frankly and the reason is because there are 501 c3s that feel that they have not been uh justly served so that is my concern and it made me think about the process and not really knowing so what you present to us is um basically your decision because we don't get to see the final determinations by the um the uh advisory committee and they're only advisory so you have you would be the person perhaps making the decision as to who's going to get the money and then we get to rubber stamp that and that's pretty much how it's been coming uh Mr mayor council flotes so on the competitive years staff puts out a notice of funding opportunity to the public and it's advertised both on our website and through the newspaper it it's a call for applications and then uh agencies submit What's called the letter of intent to apply and they uh submit a competitive application with C with questions and uh information that's that's been adopted by Council so Council set those questions of what's the objective of your program how much money are you asking for um XYZ there's uh some mandatory requirements like having a financial audit um again those are all policy decisions that were set by the committee and Council who adopted the application process and then that process is managed by staff and so the agencies go through the submission process they're reviewed for their audits their uh fiscal soundness their program requirements meeting the definition that's also adopted by Council and then all of that is is given to the commit how often does the advisory committee meet um they meet about four times per year it's a pretty regulated process um and so they're in the middle of that process right now and how many um just generally speaking how many 501 c3s apply for those funds it can vary from year to year typically for the $600,000 pot we see uh about 20 agencies apply and the alternate years is our cdbg Public Services funding and we only see about six to seven apply for that process because it's a much more rigorous uh Financial um commitment to run a Community Development block grant and then um what determines the um what determines the uh allocation of those funds what facts what factors are used in determining whether that particular 501c3 meets the criteria or what is the criteria uh Mr councelor flotes uh there are there's a weighted scoring system that the committee has as part of the questions I'm off the top of my head I can't tell you the specifics but they they wait anywhere from five to 20 points in each each category um they calculate all of their scores and they meet um and I believe it's this week they will meet at a public meeting those scores will be presented uh to both the nonprofits and members of the public and so you'll will see all the scores and you can see the committee um talk out their recommendations and they'll vote on a final recommendation to come to council for adoption okay thank you very much Miss G thank you Mr Mayor yes thank you uh Council M yeah I had a quick question about um so we're getting dispersements and so is the county and I thought to myself each body will have its own priorities but is there ever a way that we would overlap on projects and kind of have a sense of that and if we do do we want to rework the wheel or is there things that we could benefit that both of us could benefit at the same time so yes um mayor and councelor MCL Barbara benom again for the record um you know there are so many potential uh programs or mechanisms for utilizing These funds that I could definitely see that there would be a potentially a category of expenditures that say both the city and the county would want to undertake but in a coordinated manner whether it's education prevention Etc I know that the state has already been very specific on what they are spending their funds on and a lot of it is uh related to treatment um so again we would just be mindful of not wanting to duplicate some of the uses of the funds but we certainly would want to leverage it if we think that both entities could benefit um from what whatever recommended uses the the uh the council brings forward and then the commission and and the city council adopt who would be the one kind of coordinating with the county at that sense so right now I am the leaon to the opioid um settlement advisory Council we have a staff member who is at the county level funded by vital strategies which is our um nonprofit partner and addressing the harms of opioid use disorder and that person is coordinating for example all of our uh Council meetings the documentation resources required um the um NMSU Crimson research data collection process Etc so we do have some support um at the county level for this and it was a county that reached out to us to to ask for a joint committee so that we could move forward in a coordinate manner so we are just trying at this point to make sure that we bring forth options for you all that are beneficial for our entire Community um I think that once the recommended uses um are agreed upon by both governing bodies as I mentioned we need to have an implementation plan so then that could potentially involve other City resources depending on the use of funds so I'm afraid the answer to your question is going is it depends at this point on what the the uses will be but we're certainly trying to keep all you know manner of um possible uh uses um available to the to the community and keeping in mind that we want to be as transparent and accountable as possible that's why I mentioned that we will also be uh regularly reporting this out as as part of our transparency efforts on our website thank you thank you mayor um thank you all for the presentation I have a couple of questions but just before I get to there I did want to just gently push back on the um idea that one staff person decides who the telshore fund grants go to the committee is our committee the Health and Human Services committee currently has a couple of vacancies and it's my understanding that the committee often struggles with Quorum issues and so I would highly encourage each of you to check in with your person and make sure that this is something they are interested in doing because if there's any concern that maybe one person is making those decisions really it comes down to this committee and if this committee is not engaged then it does leave a lot of that work to a couple of members of the committee I know that I picked my person very intentionally for this committee and that they're a very engaged member so I would just encourage you all to check in with each of your uh appointed folks and revisit their interest in in being part of that committee and being part of this process that I think um honestly at one point I think it should have a review I think it puts uh a lot of burden on nonprofits and we should consider looking at it um but I did just want to note that I was not comfortable with with some of that conversation um just on the telshore actually while Natalie's down um down here there was a program on there that I think yes this one the very bottom the homeless opportunities I think it's Outreach Natalie but can you talk more about this Mr Mayor mayor pmo that is the homeless outreach program it's our mobile Street outreach program so it's a um two staff members that go out and encounter folks where they're living across the community make sure that they have things they need that they're accessing Services um that they're meeting with housing Navigators and then often times they assist uh them in gently moving to other areas when they're in places where they don't need to be and so they collaborate um very intentionally with our monu Mano hotspot truck um and so that's been a fairly successful uh program the street Outreach I actually utilize this program often there are cards that um Nicole often gives out I have many if you want some um but I often use this program when I um like the other day I called them because I saw an elderly woman who looked on house and I was very concerned about her safety so I called them and they went and checked in on on her um I I thought that's what it was and I've been saving this article that I found I swear months ago I've been saving it on my tabs it's um the center for American progress had a great article a while ago about community-based violence inter vention programs proven strategies to reduce crime and I would love to see obviously I would want to bring them into a conversation right we can't just tell Community of Hope what to do I'd love to bring them into a conversation about actually expanding this program I think it does a lot of good work and I think it has potential to do a lot more I had talked to you briefly about what it would look like to do a model like Mano Mano where it was an outreach program that was peer-to-peer um for folks who've been there like there is no better strategy or intervention um in in violence and addiction and anything that is proven that that peer-to-peer support is really um powerful and if we did a sort of Manu Mano model where these weren't just volunteer peer-to-peer they were paid folks who were part of Street Outreach who were conducting um surveys who were conducting onetoone with folks I mean this article I will send it to Christine so she can send it around to everybody but Community Based violence intervention programs work to reduce homicide shootings through trusted Partnerships with Community stakeholders individuals most affected by um this kind of violence these programs connect individuals most at risk of committing or experiencing violence or crime with community members who have walked a similar path whom they trust and respect um there's many kinds of uh models out there um I would just love to have a conversation about how we we could grow this model that already is working and exist and really especially as we talk about Municipal coure and having them do Outreach Court um what it would look like to have a really really vibrant um peer-to peer violence intervention Street model um obviously there' be a lot of training and a lot of safety issues but since we're in a conversation and I don't know if it'll happen by May probably not um but I would at least like to continue this conversation Natalie and so while you were here I wanted to name that and name that publicly thank you thank you the rest of my questions are not for you um I thank you for mentioning both cannabis and telshore and just to clarify I had heard that by the end of fisal year it might be on cannabis it might be 2 million is that correct or did I hear wrong mayor mayor ptim oh I'm going to back why sorry there yeah the um mayor Enriquez councelor Beno josino the projected at the end of the fiscal year this fiscal year June we're projecting about uh 1.8 so we're okay looking at another 300,000 from here to then okay thank you that's still a solid great number thank you Mrs um just to mention it it we're looking at uh FY 24 and 25 about the same number okay uh for the fiscal year okay thank you I I would really like to see a dedicated um work session for the possible uses I've been really really intrigued by the idea and have talked to folks about um utilizing cannabis for the masas for jump starting the mras right so that what funding wouldn't have to stay there permanently given that the masas will start eventually um building their own Revenue but I I would really love to see a dedicated work session for this and I know in conversations with Chief and the mayor that the real-time crime Center um could also be an allowable um expense out of here and I know that we are about 500,000 short on that currently right and so I just my ask is that we have a dedicated work session for this um and then I think just given how the budget Retreat ended there's no really question on there just dedicated work session um and then just given how the budget ended with the parks presentation that I think struck Accord within all of us and I as you as you were reading the telshore fund the current by ordin Mission or definition definition um that I very much feel like um supporting Parks through the telshore fund fits this already on a physical mental and social well-being aspect and as I said at the budget Retreat specifically for who primarily uses our parks and I think that is a lot of our low to moderate income families so I would also really love a dedicated work session for for that conversation mayor counselor Beno so the Cannabis is unrestricted which means that anything is allowable so you wouldn't have to look for allowable if you wanted to restrict it then you can do that by resolution and it it would get done by um Council the other thing uh tore fund this um description right right here was approved in so this can always be looked at and rewarded or added um if that is what council would like to do or keep it the same because what we do now is It's usually the 600k 600,000 that Natalie brings in if we have other uses for it we'll bring a resolution so they could allow for those uses for the tore fund um but yes this one is restrict Ed to this but we can add um but those are done by by resolution yes thank you so much and also mayor and councelor benom by resolution also we're supposed to bring to Council on an annual basis um the report the financials for telshore and at that time we always do ask if there's any changes in the definition that you would like to have at that time as well also to as far as the cannabis for um that you mentioned that you would like to see a separate work session I'm pretty sure that um and I'm looking at either Elizabeth and Chris they're planning a work session for the MRA in oh may may what May 13th for the MRA speci or cannabis strictly for cannabis right yes right but that could be one of the possible uses that they may bring up at that time as well okay I think I I think it would be important to do and I guess this for mayor uh okay some context given that recently Chief story sent us hotspot Maps honestly a lot of those hotspots are in the in the designated masas and I think often you know their community members have been coming and asking us for solutions to safety often we get really narrow on what those look like I but I do think that the Metropolitan Redevelopment areas and revitalizing historically blighted neighbor neighborhoods is community safety and I think it's actually deeply intersectional and intertwined um the conversation around the real-time crime Center and what that could do and so I think it'd be great to have that conversation together as uh as a I don't know Community safety or well-being conversation mayor but I I just um the more and more I think about this the more and more I think um it'd be a great enriched discussion it's not it's not necessarily for you all it's for this guy over here um and then that's it and I guess I just uh I know Barbara sends us updates on the opioid settlement and I look forward to the potential session in the summertime that will they'll be coming to give us recommendations Barbara actually on this do you think it'll be a joint session or do we expect it to be separately we haven't had a joint session since the covid zoom days as mayor and protim Beno Barbara Bena for the record um actually you know we will take direction as to how you would like to conduct that certainly if if uh you think that it would be uh beneficial to have a joint session with County Commission um then certainly the um the mayor could make that Outreach we could as well to assist with that um again you're your decisions will be made for the amount of funds that we have they will be deciding for their own f funds but if we want to ask questions about the the needs assessment that was done and about the potential recommendations in one Forum um we could certainly go in that direction and facilitate that for you all that mean that could be really interesting I think just giving councelor mlar questions as well I think I think it's important that we Forge the path forward together and an alignment I think divvying up the funds um will go lot we'll go further we'll go less far wow that took a minute to get out and so I think um it's really imperative that we do have a combined strategy which I know is happening Barbara but um perhaps they'd be open to the idea of a joint session thank [Music] you anyone else anything okay no thank you I just wanted to add yes I'm open to joint uh session for great question uh councelor McClure if there's any overlapping we want to make sure that we maximize the resources all the funds that we're receiving into the whole County and city that we're not doing our thing they they're doing theirs and we're spending the same amount of money for and and getting different results we want we want to maximize those resources and uh yeah I was taking notes and so I was calling it kind of a a work session in the future a community livability that it fits one of the themes and and we can address the telshore fund the Cannabis the opioid and and look at some of the the things that were addressed at the budget Retreat such as the parks the MRA the the realtime crime Center and municipal court and also in conjunction that was uh that was some of the comments that came uh during uh public comments was you know the request was to have a work session on what are the next steps what is the city going to do and uh putting the funds to some of the problems that we have in the community and instilling safety but enhancing our community as well I think this would be a great time that we can kind of schedule that and open it up so the the public can know that we are listening to their comments and we are addressing it with a work session that ties into the budget and to their concerns so I'll get with the city manager on that thank you mayor all right other questions okay thank you thank you thank you Barbara oh is anyone from the public is there anyone we want to use our new timer is there is there anyone from the public that has any comments or questions okay thank you okay motion to adjourn move to adjourn second cor this is on the motion to adjourn the work session councelor mlar yes councelor matis yes councelor Graham yes councelor Karan yes councelor flutes yes councelor benl yes mayor yes e