e e e [Music] it's thank you um just checking in with well just checking in with Becky that we have a quorum lingering near the Das yes Madam chair we do have a quorum with the four thank you okay thank you um I would entertain a motion to accept the agenda motion to accept the agenda thank you second Shalo Hernandez thank you it's been moved in seconded that we accept the agenda um Becky please thank you board member MCAS good morning yes thank you board member bomo yes board member shayo Hernandez yes chair Coran yes thank you motion passes I don't know he didn't no he didn't say that he would be um next up I would entertain a motion to to approve the minutes from the March 28th ascmv meeting so move shra hernandz second Ben comoo thank you Becky please hearing any amendments seeing none okay thank you board member msas yes board member bomo yes board member shayo Hernandez yes chair Ken yes passes thank you very much um first up welcome good morning um Miss gardo please come on up and speak as you as you did last year I'm so excited to hear how things are going this year and and what you all are up to the Coalition for pets and people presentation please introduce yourselves and and go for it I I don't know if you have a we do have a you do have a PowerPoint so yes we do we can help you with you can you got that thank you awesome thank you would you like us to present this or do you kind of the way set up yes present this way please speak into the mic and then say your name before you present so please thank you well thank you for asking us to speak today we're very excited to be here um to give a little more information about Cru Cruz's cool cats or S cat sanctuary uh my name is Selena Cardoza wayer and this is Cassidy and this is is Philip is Isaiah um I just want to note that all the cats that we do have up are for adoption as we go through the slideshow our mission for lasus SCH cats is to improve the quality of our community's homeless homelessness cats and kids medically by treating them socializing them and providing food and nurtur nurturing environment until we are able to find a forever home for all of our adoptable cats to reduce the feral cat population through the Trap neuter release program to educate our community and the importance of taking care of feral cats feral or non feral cats our vision is a world where we work collaboratively as a community to promote coexistence between outdoor and or baral cats and humans with empathy and compassion at the root of everything we do so Chris kcat has a really unique story um in 2019 a woman and her son Selena behind me and Joseph who unfortunately couldn't be here today um they saw a much needed service in Lost crues and that was a large unchecked feral cap population um so with ambition and dedication Selena Wier and Joseph Lucero found a Cruis Cool Cats in 2020 it started out with just helping with hoarding cases and then also partnering with ascmv for a TNR program it quickly led to a sanctuary with adoptable cats waiting the for their forever homes Joseph and another caretaker Isaiah who's here with us um they live at the sanctuary and act as caretakers um full-time and we also have a ctio for our more feral cats and they're able to live um in this really awesome ctio that we'll uh talk about later uh so what does Cruis schol cats do we have a um t our program so we work on a daily uh weekly basis with the community um scheduling tnrs we help educate with um trapping um fixing our cats in the community and working together as a community colonies uh we also do adoptions so a lot of times we end up picking up some of these cats and we socialize them uh we have them up for adoption after they're fix and uh vaccinated we like to educate anybody and everybody about um about responsible caregiving and Community cats out in the wild and um just promoting that spay spay and neuter meet Selena wayer founder and director of Las cruus coolcats Selena is a full-time mom and works two jobs to fund the sanctuary she works tirelessly to care and meet all of our cats needs for many years her dream has to been to operate a cat rescue and here we are Chu's Co cats is up and running to help as many homeless cats as we can she is our animal lover with two dogs four Barn cats three indoor cats five large fish tanks and one Turtle of her own she cannot remember a time in her life without an animal in her life so again Joseph is Selena's uh son who helped founded Cruis School cats and he couldn't be here this morning but he is awesome uh he lives in Sanctuary house with Isaiah and works parttime on top of being a full-time caretaker for the cats he's responsible for socializing them and keeping the house clean he also helps a lot with transport adoptions medical appointments and also education efforts and this is Isaiah he's a second caretaker in the house um so Isaiah originally comes from Fort Worth and uh lives at the sanctuary I'm sorry love he cares for the cats full time um he plays a crucial part of um maintaining the cleanliness of the house socializing the cats who mostly need it and with growing up he has been involved with uh many cats and an um sorry many animals such as saltwater fish snakes dogs Birds cats and just real quick to add so um the two dogs pictures pictured are Julian and Nala we did adopt them from ascmv and um we use them to help socialize the cats so that they're all dog friendly and would be adoptable into a variety of home so um they uh really help the cats become more sociable more confident and advocating for themselves and um they're both really friendly and like to play with the cats that is very true meet Cassidy Zender creative officer cassid moved to Las cus last summer bringing with her strong passion of for animals and a vast knowledge of marketing and nonprofit skills she works for a wildlife advocacy organization called project coyote and believes that humans and animals both domestic and wild can live in harmony uh we have three additional board members who uh also could not be here today um naen and Jesse are vice president and Treasurer they're located in vad and Cesar Cardona he's also a board member he is currently in Boston um getting his education a little bit about our ctio um Kevin my husband and Joseph uh put this together they planned a ctio for our more feral cats that we could not house in inside the house uh or unsocialized cats these cats are available for adoption as working cats they have lots of room to play and they find Cozy spots where they can take afternoon snps these are our accomplishments Community Partnership we are proud to partner with ascmv for spay and neutering Services where all of our trr cats get their ear tipped vaccinated shipped and altered our trr program since 2021 we have helped people TNR over 630 Community cats imagine how many needless litters and lives we've saved we also care for our cats after surgery before releasing them our adoptions because of our new website and more active social media presence we have seen more adoptions in 2024 we do home visits before adoptions and we keep in contact with our adopters so here are some of our goals and I before I forget um Fred is actually the only one in this presentation that's not available because he got adopted on Monday so uh everyone wish Fred luck he is a really sweet boy and yeah we hope that he's able to thrive in his new home so here are some of our goals um one is community outreach and events so we want to do more education and uh fundraising events this year and so we plan to have a Pet Expo hopefully in the late summer and a benefit walk to raise funds openhouse hours this year we are going to implement openhouse hours so that potential adopters may come to the sanctuary to interact with our cats I think this is really crucial because you know an adopter might see a picture online of a certain cat but then they get there and maybe that cat's having a bad day and you know other cats are able to shine and it's just a really great way for the cats to socialize with new people and um being able to match potential adopters with the perfect cat for you know their household and then adoptions uh much of the community knows us for our TNR program and not for our adoption program so we want to have a way bigger increase in adoptions this year so that we can save more cats um because right now we are at full capacity so donations we are accepting uh monetary donations so um we have uh donation buttons on our website we also uh we have all sorry um we accept cash check and um online yes online payments uh time we're always accepting volunteers to come in any time uh whether it's uh morning or evening uh weekdays or weekends and items we're always in Need for cat food both wet and dry we also uh appreciate litter uh face cleaning wipes um cat trees any type of structures or beds treats and we also have a wish list on Amazon you can reach us or get in touch with us on Facebook and Instagram our location is 1585 dzno our open hours is to be determined and our contact is crues cool cats at gmail.com with 575 55585 thank you thank you very much are there any questions from my colleagues up here go ahead Madam chair board member Beno and then sh Herz please thank you so much and and thank you for the presentation um it was wonderful to see the cats that were available for adoption and and also that Fred was adopted you said that um you're known more for other services not for adoptions will you um increase your presence in the community with for adoptions or is that primarily done out of your out of your uh facility uh are there any plans to I guess um go out to Parks or other places to increase awareness U right now we're uh partnering up with uh the animal shelter if we can get some of our adoptable cats to their uh facility to get adopted out we also have partnered with petmart so we're going to try to get some stuff done on the weekend and help get out there in the community answer any questions and give information as well as adoptions U right and right now that's where we are we're trying to get those open hours at our facility so it just make it easier for people to come in and see all the cats that we have thank you board member sh yeah I just wanted to say thank you for the update I think you guys are doing some great work and we're so grateful to have you in our community but this is a great presentation so thank you thank you and I I remember last time you were here I feel like you talked about some of your goals and it seems like you're achieving them and and more so it's really amazing thank you for your hard work and commitment and and um real impact in our community so thank you any other questions from anyone here as always I do issue a challenge to my colleagues on the board um to donate to our to our friends um when they come and and visit so um I hope that you might consider it thank you so much thank you thank [Applause] you next up we will have our city and county ACO reports I don't I know you guys flip coins for who has to go first all right Mr Hy please you lost the coin toss I infer every time I'm horrible at it good morning good morning uh chair and members I'm Brian Hy I'm the case worker for Don County Animal Control uh here to present the March numbers so for our reported stray animals we had 381 reported stray animals for March uh we were able to pick up 156 stray animals um out of those there were 27 cats and 129 straight dogs we had nine sick or injured animals we had four cats and five dogs and for our owner surrenders for the month of March we had 13 dogs this is our reported stray animal calls um comparison um they're staying about the same um they do about every year um unfortunately um we had one area that um is starting to become more of a problem area every month it usually tends to move every year um or every month um but we're having one area in particular that we're having to start to focus on more this is our four-year uh fied return uh filled return to owner comparison um I was happy to see that we this is our highest number for this year we had 27 RTO so it's been gradually going up every month and hopefully it'll continue to rise for the rest of the year these are additional animals picked up um we had zero um owner surrendered cats 13 owner surrender dogs we had nine sick or injured animals we had um a lot of welfare welfare hold animals this month month we had eight uh we had no uh cruelty or neglect we had 10 shelter quarantines two home quarantines uh we had one uh quarantine case that was held at our live facility uh we currently are holding five evidence um animals at our facility we had zero rabes submissions we had 13 diverted intakes our education was 549 and our total calls for March was 671 uh this is the dogs and cats picked up um per District um just to make it a little easier for people to see uh so for district one we had three dogs that were picked up District Two we had 11 cats and six dogs for a total of 17 District three we had three cats and 30 dogs um that's one of our bigger ones um usually when it comes summertime District 3 is usually um starts to get more up to and the dogs um we've noticed that trend for the last couple years District 4 um this is our big one that we're starting to see a con consistency of high numbers um that we're going to start hitting a lot harder um to see what see what we could figure out what's going on in that area uh we had four cats and 31 dogs in District 5 we had five cats and 24 dogs uh District Six we had one cat and seven dogs and District Seven we had three cats and 28 dogs um one thing to note as well we didn't have as many people trapping cats for the month of March so that's why our cat numbers are down so so high or sorry so low so these are straight cats picked up as you can see in March our numbers went down significantly compared to February February we had a lot of cats that were being being trapped uh these are stray dogs and our reasons for our owner release is we had one for aggressive uh we had one that was vicious we had one that was involved in a livestock attack we had one that they were unable to keep on the property uh we had one that they were moving and they couldn't take their animal with them and we had eight dogs that they just weren't able to afford the upkeep on the dogs and for that I stand for any questions thank you sir I appreciate it board member Flores please uh thank you Madame chair and thank you for the presentation um what do you do with the aggressive when especially the vicious uh and the livestock attack what uh what are the consequences for those um um for those animals um it depends on the on the situation um if they um in in these cases they r or Surrender um usually with those a citation usually involved as well depending on the officer and the case of why they happened um I know the aggressive one um and the vicious they were both um inhouse um aggressive towards their or vicious towards their own pets towards their other pets so as far as that goes we can't really s them for site them for their own animals attacking their own animals so it's it's a little different on those cases but usually if it's aggressive or vicious um we usually end up um working with the people going through things seeing what's going on there's usually citations involved if it's a livestock attack um we have our state statute that we end up going for depending on Witnesses and everything else um and usually what happens for a livestock attack just in the state of New Mexico it's usually a euthanasia uh for the animal um that's just how New Mexico set their laws um and then if it's like a vicious or dangerous um against another animal things like that uh we pick up the dog on warrant um we go to the courts to De them dangerous and or vicious and there's a lot that goes into a lot that goes in that it's not a cheap process for the owner are they euthanized the the aggressive amb vious you did say that the uh livestock attack do yeah so so for the state of New Mexico livestock attack um that's that's a a youth in Asia um for dangerous and or vicious they actually have um I call it a puppy Alcatraz but it's basically a prison that they get put into and they're able to uh we have our lead officer that approves the kenneling we have our own specific um things for um the county that they have to build for that animal it stays in there for the rest of its life um if it leaves um for veterinarian care things like that it has to be muzzled leashed at all times um if it escapes that kindling it could become a um we let the owners know right away um before we even do the petition on what's going on with that usually um just so they're fully aware because we're not going to try to hide anything from them um and then if per per the Mandate if they do not comply with that within 30 days then um it's the court orders for euth in Asia thank you you're welcome thank you thank you any other questions from the board no thank you very much good morning Madam chair members of the board good morning supervisor humanis with the weighted coin that was good so my name is Gino him menis what I'm going to do is present to you the March numbers for 2024 so we responded to 433 calls for Strays 221 of those were Goa meaning that the officer didn't have any contact with that animal 212 animals were impounded or apprehended I should say 2011 were impounded at the Animal Service Center 86 were dogs and 91 were cats we were successful in field ring 35 uh animals back to their owners 14 of those uh were unsuccessful those were animals that had some sort of identification however they weren't home um and I'll go into that in a further slide so we had a total of 49 identifiable animals here is our three-year stray animal comparison for the month of March again we responded to 433 calls for Strays bringing us to a total of 1,34 for for the Year little lower than the last the two previous years but now that the weather is getting warmer those numbers are probably going to go up next is our three-year field return to owner comparison again we did uh we were able to successfully return 35 animals back to their owners bringing us to a total of 135 for the year now I noticed that that that's a sharp decline uh in our number numbers it's because um I think for January we started off very high and now we're coming back down into our normal numbers normal range if I may let me go back I didn't read to you the Peak Performance goals so our number one Peak Performance measure is that we apprehend 65% of all reported Strays for the month of March we were able to apprehend 50 two of all reported stays prek performance goal number two is that we are able to uh return to owners 25% of all the Strays last month we were able we accomplished 20% of that goal and here I catch up with our our new numbers uh pre-performance measure number three is to have a 10% reduction in stray animal bites for the month of March we had 126% decrease in comparison to last year's numbers at the same time uh Peak Performance number four is a 10% reduction in owner victim bites we had 0% increase or decrease the same number last year as we do this year so no increase and no decrease increase or decrease here's this next slide is for our community C program we responded to 61 cats and traps traps and we were able to release six of those the cats and trap call for the year 2011 and we were able to uh so far this year released 22 Community cats and remember those are cats that have already been ear tipped uh microchipped they have all the Met have all the requirements for a community cat reasons for owner releasing animals had six dogs for Behavioral issues five dogs the owners were unable to care for three dogs for aggression uh three dogs the owners could no longer afford two cats the rental agreement did not allow for them to have that many pets uh one dog for lifestyle change one dog the owner was unable to keep it in the yard one dog the rental agreement did not allow and this was in conjunction with the two cats uh one dog the the owner got it when it was a puppy and it grew too big and unmanaged ible for them they also had some personal injuries that limited their handling of this dog and finally one dog the owner could not afford the extra fee for keeping a dog in a rental and the reasons we were unable to fill our to we had eight calls where the uh there was no contact by phone or at the residence one address was actually in doniana County uh four the chips were not registered meaning the implant was there the officer was able to pick up that microchip however there was no information showing where that animal belonged uh one dog the owner did not want to meet with the Animal control officer and agreed to pick up the animal at the Animal Service Center and that that's not always a bad thing because at least we know that that animal is safe and the owner knows that it's been picked up and they know where to pick it up we would prefer not to but at least it's in a safe area where it can be reclaimed and finally uh one dog was adopted from the asmv and that particular owner no longer wanted it total calls for service for March we responded to 1,115 calls for service bringing us to a total for the year at 3,283 highlights for the month uh I had two acos attend a career day at Rise Elementary with Libby I'm not sure if everybody is aware about Libby uh Libby stands for Las guses is beautiful because of you she is actually part of the keep lusus beautiful program um however she is handled by a codes officer so whenever we can utilize her for um our school presentations we take total advantage of that and finally one one ACO vacancy we're working with HR to Phil uh that was last month I can happily report that that vacation that vacancy has been filled and we have a new AO with us so puts me fully staffed and with that I'll stand for any questions thank you very much any questions from my colleagues on the board seeing none um really quickly thank you for the update on um thank you for the update that you shared with me on on one of of my residents constituents concerns and also for Libby I she's approaching retirement no this is actually Libby number three oh this is Libby number three okay um but I think this Libby is approaching retirement she had a little white in her face last I saw her so I thought she she a little gray in her beard yeah a little um cushy life after I I mean not that everyone with gray and beard should have have to head toward retire sorry um thank you supervisor humis any other no questions seeing none do do you have did you want to introduce is this sure you in possible I'll introduce you this is Mariana Salado she is my new hire hi good morning good morning good morning um I'm very excited to be here um this is my second week and it's really impressive to see the administrative uh part of all of this the funding that goes into all of this I grew up in quatis and there is nothing even close to to um the services that are offered by this by the city so this is very impressive and I'm very honored to be here well hopefully you can come present with us sometime we we like to see everyone so hopefully hopefully so please we invite you to to do to save uh Gino from having to present he would appreciate it thank you for being here good morning and welcome we're really glad to have you thank you so much thank you thank you man and I do have a followup that I'd like to talk with you about after okay that sounds good thank you um next up we'll hear from the shelter statistics and I think a little happy birthday is in order we'll spare you the singing unless someone up here has a particular desire for singing but good morning morning happy birthday uh Mr ther thank you very much I appreciate that uh before I begin or while I bring my presentation up I would like to introduce to you one of our new employees we have our new volunteer coordinator with us today her name is Elaine Quinn El like to join me I've asked her just to say a few things you know uh why she chose us and some of her history and I think you will find her just as engaging and very compliment as we did elain hello good morning how are you guys oh can you hear me now okay uh my name is Elaine this is my uh third week working at the animal shelter I love it so far all the staff's super amazing the volunteer community is great um yeah before this I wasn't really I was kinding like remote work working like in BLM land random places not a lot of people at all so this is kind of Zer to 100 but I love jumping in I love working with the community and really excited to be here so yeah welcome we're so glad you're here thank you for joining the team yes welcome I also just want to give a quick shout out to Samira who did a really great job in the intervening time as a volunteer leading the volunteers so I I understand that you guys are working together too so yeah she did yeah she helped me a lot when I was like learning the ropes of everything so yeah very grateful for her thank you well we're so glad you're here elen thank you thank you sh actually she was camping Elaine was camping in BLM lands and doing water surveys soil and plant surveys she just spend the night out there spend weeks out there and I'm like man that sounds like a dream job for me I could pay for my family to live that would be fun all right so the things you're going to be seeing here today are for March director report so far yesterday the uh population at the center was 289 animals you see the dog and total dogs and cats totals there intake 717 animals right lays right in between 22 and 23 years total but 535 dogs 171 cats and 11 others is the total this is how those animals came in you see as usual our number one highest is Strays by acos uh the one that Drew our attention is owner surrenders 16.6 jumped up four 4.4% for the owner surrenders portion uh we believe that is most likely with uh some litters that came in at that time so that that jumps up the number quite a bit from one dog to four or five at a time and then also the born and Care those are are again uh litters that might be born at the center from animals that come impr pregnant or from dogs and also from cats they may be in Foster type of a situation but that jumped up a lot too we had quite a few returns but percentage wise you'll see how they left or k me that they uh wasn't a lot or wasn't when you do the whole total a lot but uh some issues behavior problems with was a big one to me I discussed it with uh our uh operations and also our kennel supervisor but a lot of those were animals that just uh had some issues that were trainable but the P individual who adopted him didn't want to have him at the time or didn't want to take care of him at the time so for instance food aggression or issues with other dog that is you know was there when they came in and they didn't want to take the time at that time to to correct it these are diverted intakes so in 2024 we had 177 dogs and 18 cats for a total of 195 animals get diverted anytime an animal comes into the center and our staff can say can you hold on to it or let's schedule an appointment for you to possibly bring the animal back later uh type of situation so we were able to divert that many uh that did not come into the center at that time and this is how those animals left uh as a lot of these percentages are down uh except of course with euthanasia euthanasia went up about 2 and a half% uh 28 animals were euthanized so it left us with the live release rate or the number of the animals that leave alive at 69.6% the big one for us that went down is reclaims and rescues uh it was was a big jump down for those we would have liked to see more rescues are very difficult right now and you'll see on the next slide we talk about I believe it's the next slide we talk about what rescues we did go with there is a large number of brand new rescues that we're working with because we're putting the feers out and contacting so many to try and get that number up and improved so this is them uh some of the brand new ones that we don't usually go with like Deming animal Guardians uh is one and you can look through there as those single ones that have just taken one maybe to uh Front Range continues to be a big help to us of our cats uh that's one reason why we don't have a lot of cats at the center is we do send a lot out to rescue as fast as we can because cats have a really hard time moving through the center for that but action program for Animals is a local one that always does amazing for us they generally take the injured or the SI cats so those are those are animals that really need to get out quickly and they do a fantastic job for that we appreciate them the adal Rescue League of a Paso um they take a lot of our dogs too uh I generally just do it's it's like a half hour drive from the center and I'll have a few minutes so the the rescue coordinators asked me to do it and I've been on a name a one-on-one name basis with the rescue owner there and it's fabulous to see she we have a great Rapport be able to talk about their challenges and our challenges and how we can continue to work together so I enjoy doing that are euthanasia is number one reason again for dogs is space Behavior again this is something that uh if we had the space and the time and the resources we wouldn't have euthanized these These dogs uh however with having the lack of all those three then they did need to be euthanized to make room for the animals that are coming in as you know it's a revolving door we have animals coming in every single day I think we had 36 yesterday come in so and then there were some uh early this morning when we got there too so it's a continual door of animals coming in and animals having to leave number one reason for cats was medical General uh but only seven for that to to work towards a behavior or treatment and issues U because we were not able to get a position in this coming budget year we are looking at doing some contract work with a dog behaviorist this is going to be enable them to come in we're working right now with uh individual that we're talking right now on the aspect of how many hours a day how often during the week would it be beneficial for dogs and also beneficial for this individual and coming up with an amount uh that would make it worse wor their while to come so hopefully we'll see that number drop for a behaviorist our surgeries continue to do amazing work in what they have 324 surgeries in the month of March for a total of 1,9 year to dats this is a brand new slide I thought you would like to see the amount of Fosters that we have at the center uh the program is up it's successful doing amazing work right now 100 dogs in Foster 58 cats in Foster uh and and as you see 73 now the OD the number difference in that is again you would think we if we have only 73 foster parents then obviously somebody has to be doubling up and that is because of litters so bottle babies is what we're receiving right now for kittens uh we a lot of bble babies if anybody want wants to be up every 4 hours and feed kittens please let me know and I can make those arrangements so we can have that happen the dog uh and fosters again these are most likely litters that are having or moms or or yeah moms that are having litters and be able to care for them until they're up for adoption or held for Rescue and get them out our volunteers years to or total hours years to date is almost 2,000 uh the dog walking team is invaluable 134 hours that they're donating the really neat thing about the volunteers is we're having a group called or organization called dogs playing for Life what this is is they come in and they teach us how to do a uh a a group Playard kind of a thing for dogs and it sounds odd but a group Playard for a half hour is equivalent to about a um for half hour would be the same as like an hourong walk it it's the stimulation of of being with another animal and trying to communicate with that animal with a with a dog on dog it just absolutely exhausts them if you think about you know when your dogs are out playing in the backyard how exhausted they are versus you just go for a walk uh it's so valuable for the animals to have this interaction and it's health for them too so they're going to come in March and show us how to do that nope not March in May Come and do that and uh 14th through the 22nd we have our staff we have some a lot of volunteers doing it and then we also have some outside agencies in the community they want to come and do it as well and that is being sponsored by a volunteer we're not paying for that let our visitors up just a little bit uh so we're excited about that I again I believe the number is even a little bit higher because we count uh just by like we say the people sign in as a group like just one one person's name and it may be the family that are there so we believe it's higher but year to date we've had over almost 6,500 people come through the the new center our web page views went down a little bit uh I'm sure this is because we have so much as you see on our next slide of increase on our social media and we are redesigning the I just got an email last night from our marketing that is pretty much final so we're looking at just working out few of our bugs on our website the biggest problem with the website when people search animals is when they hit the back button it takes them right back to the animals and they have to put in all the information again this is not our website issue this is it's our shelter program called shelter love there's a code that sends all the animals to the website and so it's actually searching shelter love it's not searching the website so it's a shelter love issue we've let them know the frustrations they said they are aware of it and they've placed it on the list to update when they can uh however that list is fairly long so uh we're frustrated with it as as much as the public is what we tell them is is to come see not only can you come and see all the animals at the center for available but you can also see the new Adoption and stayhold facility and uh the cats and have the whole experience there so our Facebook is still up quite a bit 17,200 views so that's quite a bit higher over 5,000 almost 5,000 of but it was in last year we do have some fun upcoming events uh Petco petmart uh we're going to have a fun adoption at McCoy adoption uh event there and then always at the farmers market we have a good presence one fun one that we're doing in and this is this month April 28th we're doing a picnic with the pup this is for the animals that are in our medical facility but they're still available for adoption so we're bringing those animals out we're going to have hot dogs and uh just a fun time with these animals have them outside so they can be outside but also outside for people to come and visit with and see and hopefully get more and more of those adopted so that is Sunday April 28th from 11: to 1 this was also thought of by a volunteer who approached us we thought it was a fantastic idea so we Incorporated that into our our uh adoptions so Kitty here is what our dog of the week fantastic I talked to Amy about it uh who does the postings for it and she said as soon as Kitty came out and Amy sat down to get a picture she ran right to her and wanted snuggles and loves so it was she said he's just a fantastic dog and we have Rose but Rose was adopted the very first day I believe it was on Monday they came in and picked up Rose so we are so happy for her and hope she's doing great in her forever home we're also doing another program called you've probably seen on social media about the Fantastic 4 playing off the whole Marvel thing uh these are long-term dogs this dog we're going to watch the video because uh they named her Luna but Luna was adopted she' been at the center for over 30 and I want to say 68 number will come up uh but been a long time almost a year at the center nothing wrong with her it's just luck of the draw nobody had interest in her so I'll let you watch this video [Music] you're so excited [Music] just a fun little thing to see that uh the staff was happy to see ouro they knew who she was and we were all very excited that Luna got a fantastic new home they did call us the next day because sometimes with these long termers you're like oh what's going to happen uh they called us the next day and said she is doing fantastic uh with the I guess when she was introduced to the new dog or the dog currently in the home uh they did it at the center they hit it off immediately so we're really happy for them and wish Luna the best the other three of our fantastic 3 uh is continued to be adopt or is to be up for adoption and hopefully we can get some word out for them to be adopted but it's again it's being pushed on Facebook fairly well and I'll entertain any questions thank you any questions from the board board member m please thank you so much chair um Clint with your shelter statistics surrounding a diverted intakes as you explained that it it seems like those numbers may also show up later in the intakes to the shelter do you do you track that Delta as well we're yeah yes and no we're trying to find a way that we can do it effectively that doesn't cast a huge burden on staff because the best way to do it is to keep those numbers you know the information from them and then call them back and say did you what did you end up doing with this dog uh so we're still playing with that and just trying to figure out how so it is in the plan to do it but currently not right now okay thank you yes I I was just trying to understand the sign um versus you know maybe some more qualitative data about the outcomes uh with respect to those stats understand thank you um any other questions from folks on the board no thank you very much Clint um next up we have committee reports so board member Beno Finance please thank you so much chair yes and last week we had our finance committee meeting I was actually out of the office but happy to say that our senior budget analyst Rosio gambo was able to uh attend the committee meeting for me and provide me with notes and I believe that you were there as well uh board member Flores yes so the the two items of discussion at that committee meeting were the um quarterly financials which you will see a report today on that um and and input on that as well as the FY 25 budget and I believe that our uh budget team who attended had quite a few um items of of input regarding some of the assumptions for the budget and again I believe we're having a presentation on that as well today so since both of those items are going to be covered um um what I'd like to do now is to just introduce Mr Michael fi to come talk about the quarterly financials first and those are what's what are linked in the document correct that's correct thank you good morning [Music] good morning Madam chair members of the board Mike fusini Animal Services Center I'm going to provide a brief overview of the Animal Services Center third quarter Financial results ending as of March 31st and it will show you a comparison between budgeted revenues and expenditures to actual and this will just be a brief overview I will say uh before starting that the state of the financial finances for the uh Center are very good and continue to be positive through the first nine months of the year however that may change not in a negative way but I do anticipate that uh spending for the last three months starting with this month through June will accelerate and uh some of the variances that you're going to see between revenues and expenditures will probably be dwindled as we get closer to June 30th starting with the statement of net position the highlights we have cash received of $1,321 164 and that's equal to the total assets under the liabilities and fund balance counts payable of 6323 acude liabilities of 11 16,22 revenues collected in advance of 155 461 and the unassigned fund balance is 866 798 totaling to 1,132 164 equaling the assets looking a little further down into what uh contributes to those numbers the county contribution from the donian county is 1,612 456 cities is slightly more which is how it started out to beginning of the year and continues to be uh a little higher than the counties at 1,612 479 other Revenue which is usually from donations operating uh Revenue collected through operations uh totals to 360 788 which brings your total revenue to 3,585 723 on the flip side looking at the expenditures and what you will see is that U salary and benefits speak to the Lion Share and typically as has been happen happening in years uh with the center the ratio of of people to non-pe Dollars personal service cost versus nonpersonal or operating cost is typically run 7030 ratio 70% salary and benefits people dollars versus non-people dollars and that bears out in the numbers here the salary uh figure represented is a milli 586 145 benefits toal 539 924 none in temporary services although at the beginning of the year we did budget uh for that to happen $25,000 but we have not spent any in temporary services these are services that we contract through or in the past have contracted through like Manpower from when we needed to fill in the Gap because we didn't have full-time or part-time staff available to perform the the necessary tasks and duties this year we're not taking anything from that so therefore uh we transferred the dollars into and repurposed them into other accounts that need the support to uh finish out the rest of the Year services are at 35944 supplies 347 458 and all other expenditures which includes a collage of accounts like travel training uh things of that nature that feed into the other expenditure category total 10 6,429 and as you can see the total expenditures for the 9 months ending March 31st were lower than the total revenue at 2,939 440 oops wrong way this slide um presents some of the very same information for the March actual but it Compares and shows the the um position in each of these categories compared to the fiscal year 24 total budget and reflects the percent of budgeted that has been collected in Revenue versus spent against the budgeted revenue and I should state that the budget parameter through nine months of this fiscal year is 75% so what you see there is that the revenues collected from those three sources are at a rate of 76.9 which is slightly ahead of the 75% parameter but the expenditures uh uh are not nearly the same it's 61.9% almost 62% and as I said that through the first nine months which is a continuing trend from what I've observed to Center this um difference between revenues collected and expenditures um has been uh true in the past as well however I will state that I feel that April May and June you're going to see that the expenditure ratios will probably um grow to be closer to what you see in the revenues there are dollars left over that will need to be spent and and because it's a it's it's um fueled more by people dollars what I've I've gotten in way of information from the program managers is that each of the programs have filled many of the vacancies um medical I think has still one vacancy remaining uh they filled the other two that they had for the longest time uh kennel has filled everyone with the exception of one vacancy and the administrative Services section I think still has about four or five vacancies and vacancy savings will Drive what dollars that you have available against the revenues that are collected and since we're heavily leveraged in in in people uh that has an impact but I do think that because we filled a lot of the vacancies you're going to see those numbers grow closer together this is just a graphic a chart that shows by month for each of the past nine months where revenues and expenditures have fallen and and in the last month um couple of months it it it peaked out in February at 445 445,000 there was an increasing Trend ever since um November but it it fell slightly in March and I think that you're going to find an uptick in that number of expenditures in the months of April May and June whereas the revenues will continue to be pretty much static and with that I'll take any questions that you may have should you require any further detail thank you very much board members board member Flores please thank you and thank you Mike um on page at the page before this one why was there such a dramatic drop um in from is it uh what's that July to August in July you're saying in July through August of this year dropping which one expenditures or Revenue revenues well what what happens is in July they frontload the revenues the contributions that we receive from the county and the and the city I think it's like 20% is front loaded and then each of the the new fiscal year yes and then each of the 11 months thereafter they're allocated at an equal amount for the remaining 11 months so therefore that's why the revenues will look like a spite at the very end beginning because most of the revenues were front loaded okay thank you thank you thank you board member Flores any other questions no thank you board member Beno um yes one thing to consider you you alluded to the h percentage of um expenditures for the center being related to Personnel um so it it might be helpful to include a a report on vacancies the positions um outstanding to be filled and those that have been filled as well I know that we do that internally as the city as we track uh that so if if the board is inclined that that might be um something certainly will review what at the finance committee meeting and then potentially bring that here as well if it's helpful to inform that Trend it's a good suggestion that hasn't been part of the package previously but it's an easy ad but as I mentioned um prior to I'd say April 1st the total vacancy count had been about 11 three in medical three in um kennel and five in admin Services just recently over the past two or three weeks weeks the vacancy count in both medical and kennel has pretty much evaporated with exception one and there were two or three hirings that occurred in the admin services so the only vacancy right now that you have in medical program which has been one that's been ongoing and continuing for quite some time and I don't mean weeks or months I'm talking years would be the veterinarian position that Still Remains to be filled um and I think there's one animal caregiver full-time remaining in the kennel operations three admin uh positions are basically one is the grant writer which is still under search to find a replacement and then the other two remaining or three remaining our office administrative assistance I have another question thank you go ahead please yes so the the other question I had related to the expected expenditure for the remainder of fy4 I believe there was some discussion at the committee meeting regarding the projections for FY 24 um and um I think the budget thought that they were a little bit High um given historically uh the funds that have remained at the end of the year that then are available uh to utilize in the in the next fiscal year but I think the projection was that all would be spent by the the end of the year can you speak to that yes I remember the discussion when we were identifying all I think we were talking about all of the grant money was to be expended that's the plan but in this year different from prior years um and talking to program managers and that's where I get my feed from because I do a multivariate type of approach when I try to determine what the projection is what a reasonable projection should be for the year I do a quantita and a qualitative a mixture of two I look at the numbers analyze the numbers based on the previous 9 months of spending and I project for the remaining three months I look at the year over-year spending for the prior three or four years to see what the spending Trend had been and I look at the highs and lows there that being the quantitative side of the house and in qualitative I talk to the program managers in particular the one where I get a lot of information where the SP is going to certainly Trend up is with the medical program and the uh medical director's Pro um idea for spending this year is a bit more aggressive than it has been in the past because a couple things are driving that one with the knowledge that fiscal year 25 may not be so rewarding as what we had once thought we may need to start spending money in this year for things that we may be thinking about spending next year if there's a surplus remaining and because of the vacancies we do fortunately enough have some vac some Surplus spending that we can repurpose for that and to give you a good example medical supplies is an account that we budgeted for the entire fiscal year of $150,000 before talking to the medical director I had projected reasonably based on all the data that I had received and anal an analysis I performed about $135,000 but after speaking with her that will not be true she's planning to spend that and more all of her budget in the $150,000 that's been budgeted and looking to to pull monies and transfer from other accounts that are UND spent to be able to fuel more medical supplies because primarily of the community cat program in TNR and all the spay neuters that she's planning to do under that program so this year that program which was only an infancy as far as an idea last year has taken off and she's spending a lot more of her budgeting dollars toward uh fulfilling those goals so I know on the city Side we spent quite a bit of time looking at our projections because it obviously it affects um our resources in the following fiscal year so I would just recommend that as we go forward next year through the budget process at the this would be a discussion a little bit earlier um because I know our our budget analysts will be happy to weigh in as well on what we're seeing um in Trends as well and have that discussion with Animal Service Center so we can get a good idea um on our side of course we uh try to do something similar understand the operations what people are saying that that they think they can do and we certainly have historical data uh to show what what has been done in the past so it's really important to to review that so I think just going forward will make sure that that's one item to to keep a close eye on for budget development thank [Music] you thank you any other questions from from the board seeing none thank you and I do appreciate seeing this um just sort of thinking about the context from last year to this I do feel like we have more information this year and thinking about the budget and what the projections are I really appreciate your um sharing some of the vacancy things and I we did hear from earlier that uh on at Monday's meeting that we seem to have the lowest vacancy rate um than in recent years it feels like there are fewer vacancies than there have been and so I just want to add that to the context of the budget conversation that we're going to have soon too so I think thank you for sharing and and bringing us up to speed on this um and I do think it would be useful in in future presentations to sort of have one slide on the the Personnel count and where we we might be missing and and the way that that might be affecting the budget as well that would be very helpful mam chair please board member Flores thank you I have another question I wrote down a note here to myself to remind me um and I don't know what page it's on can you go back um okay let me see I have the sum of oh the t a total revenue was 3,000 uh 3,585 um where how where were these funds allocated that's my question the the total revenue for the March actual is is that you yeah is the following information the total expenditures the 61.9% is the percent of the 76.9% that has been spent is that am I reading that correctly the 61.9% if I understand your question is the total amount of spent for the nine months that ended March 31st compared to the full budget amount of 4,745 288 um so how are they allocated the three year to date 3 million5 is allocated across each of those expenditure categories that you see below including salary benefits Services supplies and all other expend they are allocated but they are not spent and they are not spent to the degree that your expenditure percentage of budget lies below the parameter of 75% now that would mean that there's still more dollars available because we're going to continue to collect revenue or um assign Revenue as we go through each month April May and June but there are still more dollars in the kitty if you will that remain to be spent that haven't been they been allocated from the revenue but haven't been spent yet and so that is where I'm addressing the fact that I think in April May and June you're going to see that Trend um ramp up to spend the dollars as much as they possibly can to utilize things that they need to spend or acquire this year and maybe those that were planned to be acquired next year if we don't have budget to support that and that would be the net change of $646,000 $283 yes that's the net change through March 31st yes okay thank you very much thank you and I think that there is actually a little bit more detail in the packet on page three of 11 of the append that has some of the specific parameters if you're curious to see like there are a number that are sort of hovering at 50% that I think those are what you're talking about get those spent and and caught up to the 3ars of the Year budget parameter so thank you for that detail any other questions from the board no thank you Mike next up we have let me see who's next facilities or exe executive committee which would be I was there with with Clint and and Manny and Chris we were there we discussed the upcoming conversation about the budget as well as uh the director's evaluation which is on the closed session scheduled for today although we might have to have a conversation about that um at the executive committee meeting we also heard really plans for this meeting and plans for the upcoming budget I don't know if there's any if there are any other highlights from those conversations please come on up Clint admittedly I didn't come prepared to present on this you're fine for the record Quint ther executive director I just did want to point out and let the board know that we did meet with the Emergency Management oh yes and talked about the shelter and emergency preparedness uh some fantastic plans we worked with uh the county uh Mary Lou Ward was there a supervisor and talked about the Disaster Response if the county had a disaster how would the ascmv play in that and then if the ascmv had a disaster how the county would play in that so it was a great conversation I know Mr uh youz Gino the city ACO Supervisor was invited but ran into some huge Personnel issues so he was not able to attend but that's a simple we'll sit down and talk and and get the city's side of that planned in but it was a fantastic meeting uh and there the ball is rolling we have I'm getting emails from Emergency Management saying this has been done and this has been done so excited for that I wanted the board to know thank you you did tell us that at the executive committee and meeting and I'm sorry I didn't report it thank you for that update and for working on that those continuity plans other questions okay next up is the facilities Clint sorry update thank you Clint fer again uh we had a great facility commune meeting we had uh commissioner uh uh Christopher saho Hernandez he was there uh we had Becky Graham was here I'm sorry counselor Graham was also there and then Mary L Ward was there as well this was a little bit different we went on a walk around the center uh we tour the new center we discussed some issues there we told we uh went through the old I'm sorry the medical facility and uh saw some issues there and we talked about all of them one some things we talked specifically uh we're having some significant cloth washer issues uh we just found out yesterday when they were there to to work on them that the slab that they poured them on specs for the machine say a 6 in slab and is currently poured at a 4 in slab so this means uh they are they being Janes is meeting with the manufacturer and getting a plan of action of moving the washers out and then demoing the floor and then pouring a 6-in slab for him to be on so that puts us at quite a bit out as far as no washers available for the new center we still have one going all the time at the medical facility I did ask for in the meeting that they're going to be presenting uh here shortly that Jane said I did ask for them to discuss some compensation for or some kind of plan for us to still be able to do laundry and keep up with laundry uh there are some options in the city and we've done them before when our washer has uh clunked out so uh those are in discussions but that was some bad news we received this morning on our washers the tops of our kennels we re received we really did want to go with a specific vendor that did all of the fencing for the new center just for continuity they did a good job uh however they were vendors of Jan's Corporation general contractor not a city vendor so we R into some issues of having them become a city vendor so we did get some uh more quotes just this last week of getting tops to our kennels so we're waiting for those to come in uh public access to the medical building has been implemented it started last Sunday as far as my knowledge we've only had a small handful of individuals go up there but there's there is going to be a sign our staff is telling people to follow the dog prints if they want to to the medical facility a sign is being made to say the hours and when they're available uh the dog prints are adorable going up to the the medical facility they're big they about this big so they can easily be seen uh but people are are having access to the adoptable animals in the medical building now we're still having issues with cameras there's some cameras that are not on the server uh it looks like some of them they've been plugged into the server now but some of them are broken uh so access Technologies is working on that locks uh the company that did the locks never sent keys or locks to the general or to the city uh that's what we're being told so so they have a shipment date of May 1st and then from there we'll see when they're supposed to arrive but as soon as they come then we can get the construction cores out of the building of those doors and replace them and have keys of our own access cards are still not uh have have not been issued to us uh we're working with access technology and also with the city to see why but uh it continues to be a big problem for us uh we did have some grooming bathing stations installed in every single dog pod so the dirty uh dog doesn't need to go up to our grooming area in the medical building they can now do it right there inside the pods so that was pretty awesome and our shade structures were actually at the time of the meaning they were still down below they need to come back up and by via Crane and into our playards and that has been done so we're just now need to set those in cement for the legs and then get a roof on them but we're excited for the progress that's going on that's all I have to report thank you really quickly the access control and the incorrectly poured pads those are warrantied or those are things that are already paid I assume in the costs of the new building so the keys are paid for yeah they're they've been uh waiting for those the pad we're going to have to to wait and see because nobody I guess nobody checked the specs for the washer and dryer the spec said 4 in pad for the pad of the ascmv the cement pad the only thick part is the sally port and that's why vehicles are driving on the 6 in there uh so I I'm not sure how it will run down but we'll keep an eye on it again they're going to have a meeting and we'll discuss it today yeah I think I would I would look to the contractors for that I hope yes that's part of their their Duty so thank you any other questions from the board seeing none thank you Clint thank you okay next up is the is the next action item um I think Clint you are coming back sorry uh item 6.1 a resolution to adopt the FY 2025 proposed budget for the Animal Services Center of the Massi Valley as it is highlighted in exhibit a in your packet correct yes or is the one that is up here is the same right that is the new one that needs to be handed out yes we we all have this so okay thank you go ahead please thank you Clint ther executive director just want to let you know that this presentation is different from the one that was presented to the city is also a little bit different because the pr preliminary numbers to the one that was presented to the board of County Commissioners at that lovely Board of County Commissioners meeting that we did have the reason why uh preliminary is with the board of County Commissioners is we did not get exact numbers until the next day uh on how much insurance was going to be for an individual and we'll go over those it dropped it dropped it down a little bit uh so it did go down uh the reason why it's different from the one the city saw is because we received feedback from the city we went back and fixed it the city is expecting pretty much a flat budget this year uh with the expectation for each department to drop 3% so we uh went with that attitude that we need to make several choices and several changes both that were fundamental to us that we still needed to have funded uh but yet also something that is able to be passed by and could be afforded financially by the city and the county so really the only thing we are requesting for funding is our compensation study that was implemented so you'll see there the total of $383,000 that will completely fund all the positions at the ascmv uh so all the positions of the ascmv with the implemented uh comp study what that means is is we will continue to have competitive uh salaries and wages for our staff so when you take the 383 that's that's everything above the line um that had to be that effects increase by that increase uh we're doing a straight over operating so no increase to our operating and we take out the capital that we did spend out so 240,000 is what we're asking for you take our approved budget that we did 4.5 million you add in the grants that we received so that is a revised budget of 4.7 million you take our request of the 240,000 we're asking that puts us at a budget of $4.98 million with that budget request you we take out the revenue that the ascmv projects to to uh contribute you take out our grant rollover we did have a grant just awarded to us a week and a half ago it's for an adoption trailer we're really excited for it but that's $110,000 and then the city has told us to plan on $80,000 specifically for sterilization uh that was granted to us or gave to us so we take all that Revenue out and that gives us the 4.4 million uh that we're requesting the city in County split half which is 2.2 million each uh you look there at the bottom right that's the difference so 240,000 our request then we had some operational shortfalls that needed to be funded uh that's the leftover grant money and then discrepancy in our operations and expenses from our FY 24 equals 103 so 343,000 is what we're expect is is our full ask you split that in half and that giv you the 171,172 point2 million requesting for the funding what that gives us is it covers our shortfalls so we're even or so we are financially presenting a balance budget and it also covers the required increase in our salaries and benefits for that and I stand for any questions thank you I have a couple questions SL follow-ups but I'll defer to the board first if you all don't go ahead please board member Beno thank you uh chair just a question about the shortfall are you saying that the revenue shortfall is primarily from related to Grants or so the the revenue shortfall there's $81,000 that we could not identify in the difference between our operations and our revenues for f y 24 for some reason they were different uh we presented a balanced budget uh but it came back as the difference we talked about these in our finance committee meeting and we neither the city nor us could identify why we had that offset uh but this will bring us back to whole does does that help clarify or no not exactly I think so my sense is this is what we're trying to figure out we approved implementing the salary study at the time point in time that we did which was March I think or February yeah um that was that amount had not been included in the budget from last year um and the idea was using salary savings I think to cover or you know Revenue that you all have in the budget but so this is likely a result of that following through for the rest of the year and that's the projected shortfall I don't I don't think it's not coming from the Personnel side or from um the comp study funding no okay it was it was there before that if you look at I know the the paper we got from the finance committee uh it shows on there the discrepancy of the 81,0 696 I believe that uh I don't know if you have it in your PO in your in your packets I do it's on page three of 11 net change in fund balance um it's there6 yeah um so I think that does come from the it looks like it's coming from the expenditure side uh I think is that correct I oh yeah no I see what you're saying you see what I'm saying or you see what Clint's saying or you see what Barbara's saying okay you want to comment on it Barbara do you feel like you still have the same question yeah I don't yes okay I do um so Clarity on the short fall so the 81,000 a portion of it the remainder is the grant funding of 211 so you take out the 110 Grant that we did and then the 880,000 that was um that the city's contributing so it's the 81,000 that we are unsure of how that was funded or counted and then the remaining of the grant gives you the 103 I'm sorry it looks like that 81,000 is on the on the budget side not the not on the actual side of that statement right that is where it looks like it is on the on the financial statement that we're looking at so I assume that's right yeah on the on the budget side versus the actual side yeah so it's not on the is that versus projections um it no it it appears that that is calculated by just taking the total budgeted revenues and subtracting the total budgeted expenditures that there's a there's that negative $81,000 okay dollar so it's not on the it's not on the actual side um because the actual sh side is showing the 646000 because the expenditures are below the the the actual revenues so I'm I'm not sure why we need to take that into account uh if it's not on the actual side it's only in budgets that I guess that's my uh question it but that's not affecting the ending fund balance for this year though it's not taken into consider so it's just on the financials but it's not affecting anything so it's just bad budgeting yes I I don't understand on on the budget side and I apologize for not um going over this since I wasn't at the finance committee meeting but I don't know if this came up as a question uh during that committee meeting it it did Clint yes we did and the explanation was uh there was no explanation yeah I would love to come up yeah good morning Miss Gamboa hello Rio gambo budget analyst too um it was brought up at the meeting and we were going to look into it but we haven't come down to but you're correct it seems to be that there we're comparing budgets to actuals rather than taking the actuals and putting them into the yes okay mhm yeah so so I guess my my my question is then yeah we we need to look at it from the from the budget side but it from the actual side we're not experiencing that so why are we accounting for that in in the FY 25 budget or or counting that shortfall into a into the fy2 budget if it's not there in actuals and I'll have to get more information to answer that question Mr board member shint pleas can we um go to the next or the previous slide where you showed the budget shortfall uh that one it's not on here there was this one where we left the benefits as a 383 but uh this is the slide the shortfall from FY 24 the second the last line yeah I see where's that number coming from it's coming from the the 211 $1,000 grants that adjusted our our budget it's the remainder of that after you subtract out the 110,000 of our grant rollover and the sterilization contribution is that reflected in the animal services um statement of revenues and expenditures though from this because this is the city software right that we're looking at in the agenda packet the financial statement is okay the grant will not be in the financial statement because it has not been accepted yet we just got it last week or two weeks ago so it was not able to be on this agenda gotcha yeah I would also like to orio gamb um I would also like to bring up that the revenue include the increase of the donana contribution that you were assuming in the first presentation a 500,000 increase CU right now I show it's a 4 4,957 and you have 4.98 and I show that you already included in munis the increase assuming that this County would have contributed so that number is also too high the revenue amount which am 177 or no the 4.9 million seems to include assuming that the county was going to contribute an additional 500,000 oh I see so that number on up I don't think that's I I don't think that's the case or if it is it's we're unable to get into there and change it this time I it says 2.2 on the in exhibit a for both contributions I think no that I think that then you add in the revenue from operations which are all the other things that are collected but that's not oh I see yeah go ahead please good morning Mike Fen Animal Services Center let me addressed two issues here the first being the latter that was addressed in what's in munice the numbers that are in munice on the revenue side or the expense side have not been updated to what's reflected in this presentation why the reason is these numbers just came about yesterday at the end of the day if I'm not mistaken so we didn't have an opportunity to change those numbers and I shared that with budget that I would be making those changes as soon as the target stop moving because we've had multiple revisions dating back to when we first made this presentation to you last month and there's been several revisions and the revisions hadn't stopped until yesterday about 3 3:30 when we got the the uh came up with the final numbers on the first issue though if I can shed some light and this may or may not explain the Genesis for this 81696 I'm going to take you back to the March meeting and I think councelor Karan asked this question what's the difference between why you were asking and at that time these budget numbers are different than they are today what's the difference between a $295,000 gap in expenses versus I mean a SE excuse me $720,000 that we're asking for in expenses versus the 1,1 15,000 that we asking for revenues and what was add ask was how can you reconcile that difference shouldn't they be the same so when we look at that at that time and it still continues to carry forward today Al the numbers are much smaller we looked at that difference 1,15 versus 720 came out to be 295,000 and again I'm speaking from memory so I don't know the exact numbers $295,000 so I I started to look at where are these numbers how do I reconcile that difference 2,747 of them that was from the from the grants we removed that and that gave us a figure of about oh 82,000 and something again I'm sorry I don't have the numbers in front of me I pulled out the difference between the revenue from 24 to the revenue that we were expecting to do in 25 which has since been changed that difference was $199 the remainder was 81696 which happens to match exactly to the difference on the budgeted side that you're finding on those uh finance committee meetings now I can't explain why that difference is in the amount of monies that were budgeted for Revenue versus the amount of monies that were um in the FY 24 for expenses other than to say that the 4745 number is a number that grew as a result of adding in the grant from the 4633 4.6 33 million that was originally approved in fy2 24 and that's how we get to the 4745 so we use that number and it just happens to be that it all falls out those numbers and I don't think it's just necessarily a coincidence I mean I didn't pull those numbers out of the air when I went looking for them I found the differences and I was able to back fill in here's the reason why so I don't know if that helps any explanation but that was a Genesis of it that helps me understand the some of the things behind it I don't know if that helps everyone feel like you know what the the differences are but it sounds like there is a combination of differences between actual expenses revenue from Grants that arrived and in out of time in in terms of how these have been revised and the revisions that that you just did yesterday to sort of cut it back to what the city these parameters were does that is that an does that feel explanatory enough for everyone or do you feel like this is something we need to revisit um finalize in another revisit this okay um so I think I I would say it seems like this is coming closer to what we we're getting closer to what we can feel comfortable approving but it doesn't sound like this is ready to be approved from my colleagues if please so I am a non- voting member at this point just to remind you um but yes I I I do feel like I I would uh feel more comfortable to understand what's characterized as a shortfall um from fy4 which uh hadn't hadn't been discussed before this last finance committee meeting um and I just don't understand the the explanation here today so my understanding is that we need to have our city budget up for approval uh the second week of May and I I'm sort of looking to you as a friendly reminder of yes that's correct we have it coming forward on the 20th of May currently in our FY 25 budget the Assumption we have for Animal Service Center is a a flat budget from FY 24 revised I believe um so it it does not include any increases in expenditures now what we could come back to and certainly we we've done this on on our side as well at the city is the needs being beond that can come as budget adjustments um afterwards and certainly on our side we're going to be very closely watching our revenues and expenditures um to understand where we may have room for additional requests as well um and so I don't see that that would be um uh out of the realm as well for Animal Service Center with respect to fy2 budget adjustments that would come forward to to both this body and the and the council and commission and you you said what's in there now is the revised budget that includes the new salary structure is that the revision that we did so I believe that in munice and munice is our uh system of record for budgeting that the salaries in munus reflect the increases from class in comp is that yes that is correct yes I'm I'm sorry M chair yes they do uh inflect the people that were in there at that time because it was done by people in seats not by just position so the employees that are hired after that time and coming on at the higher amount are not funded at the higher at the the comp rate that's higher from the study and so that's what we need the extra funding for that's requested is to fund them as as well as part of the funding okay that sounds like a gap between actuals and budgeting that is built into I I I think is built into this process but I'm not I um so every year when we budget um as Mr ther said we take a snapshot at a period of time to see um you know what positions are filled what positions are vacant and at that time then we work on the projections for for the next fiscal year of course over the several months uh that we're going through budget development there are positions that will be filled and there are new positions that will become vacant and so at any given time you're going to have uh different um uh specific positions that are vacant or filled uh but at that and so we have to just sort of put a put a Line in the Sand to say at this point these are the numbers we're going to go with knowing that um we have uh you know specific positions that will will be different in terms of whether they're filled or vacant but on average we utilize the same methodology um to budget for them and so I would I would say that for your vacant positions um I'm also assuming that in munus those vacant position salaries are at the revised uh salary level that's correct yep so then that's a consistent assumption for both filled and vacant positions that they that the salaries were taken from the class and comp study okay and that makes sense so if we don't and and so I think I'm really looking for what kind of consensus do we have around what is presented here um it sounds like there's not a lot of consensus around approving it um and what what is in the city's existing sort of budgetary parameters um so go please board member Flores based on our uh work session the city's work session and what we're doing today um I think that we don't have a consensus I don't think that um I'm certainly not ready to vote on it on you know on this due to our budget presentation to last week so so what this would mean is what exists will be will go into the annual budget consideration and everything including the which this would have been the case if we did approve this today um this would have been the case that the things that you had on the prior iterations of the budget things like additional vet tax supplies um Animal Care folks could appear as a budget adjustment as soon as you could bring them to the next board meeting ascmv board meeting to get into the next fiscal Year's sort of conversation as a budget revision right yes yes please board member FL thank you Madame chair um yeah I I think I have to restate emphasize emphatically emphasize redundant um that um I I think you Mr ther said well the board this board approved the presentation that we what we went through um and I think that the final determination is what the city could do what the County can do um in you know in terms of the budget restrictions um so I don't know if that would be you know the decision that we made at the presentation for this board would be controlling do you remember that I don't remember that exact but yeah whatever the decision the board makes it it's kind of like a the boards gives a thumbs up or a recommendation to the city council and to the County to to approve it but there's no guarantee that it would be approved yes that's correct thank My worry is and if it be answered by the board is if we don't get the the funding for the comp study there that you see then I have to absorb that increase into my budget through salary savings and I've Been Told by the city not to budget off of salary savings is that or is that is that not the case is that what I'd have to do is to continue to fund my co-workers at the higher rate that they received from March until June 30th for the new fiscal year I'd have to do it off of savings through my budget is that right it's that's what we approved that's what we approved for last year I think to imp Jun 30th right and then for the upcoming year please board member Beno yes so so the clarification I want to get is in munice do we have the FY 24 revised budget plus the class and comp salaries for Animal Service Center I I don't know if budget can answer that question or Clint if you can ask answer that question best my understanding that the positions are all in as the higher class and comp study amount that's my understanding okay then it then it would already be built into an ongoing continuing res kind of continuing resolution to fund this correct so that's my understanding of what's in munice and what we're basing our fund summaries off of right now but I wanted to just confirm that if that's the case then the salaries are already in the fy2 budget at the higher class and comp levels so it looks like this question is outstanding board member msas please I I'm not trying to oversimplify things but did you build in the increases that were approved did you build it into your budget request to the city and the county and does that fit into the increases that are pending before the city and the county so did I include them in the fiscal year 25 yes yes yes which of course you should have yes but is the amount of money that is being tentatively identified for the city and the county to contribute for fy2 does it cover that amount yes okay well I don't see it as a problem then and actually I don't see it as a problem to kind of recommend the budget that's being proposed subject to any kind of reconciliation uh that that can be done administratively because again this is a recommendation it's to the city and the county I'm not speaking on behalf of the County Commission but I'm assuming that the County Commission is um favorable to the reduced rate the 200 and what was it 177,000 roughly okay then I'm assuming that that um the County Commission will find that as a reasonable request I don't know where the city is I had understood that there was some negotiation involved to arrive at that number that request and so that'll be a common contribution from the city and the county so I don't know we're I I think we're spending a lot of time over what is really a Reconciliation between uh the system that the city uses and the way the the um Animal Services Center is presenting the information at the this point and I think it can be an administrative Rec reconciliation so that the proposal needs to be the commitments need to be there and they need to be there as early as as soon as possible I don't think waiting until next month gives us a lot of clarity and to Amendment what I said before sir it's 171,000 $172,000 I would entertain a motion from the board on this resolution um move to approve Madam chair it's been moved to approve the resolution as it is given the reconciliation that will occur occur between the two and between what is budgeted potentially and what might exist in terms of the positions in in munice that may already be built into it sounds like the existing budget second it's been moved and seconded I would hear more discussion I think with the clarifying points about reconciliation happening and understanding more at a future date but getting this in front of both the city in the county is a wise move I understand that we have more work to do and more conversations to have but um with the increase I I would I would agree so my sense of what the spirit of the recommendation of the board is is that we'll we're honoring the commitments that we made in the class and comp study um and that's the main budget increase that we'll see in the next year that's that's my sense of this but we would like to see more clarity around the the short the identified short call shortfall and hopefully we can follow up in the next uh finance committee meeting to to figure out and reconcile those things so is that is that what the spirit of this vot is board member flotes please I don't understand what the motion is if we're going to um to recommend the budget as identified here with the increases that are consument with the class and comp study if those aren't already represented in in munice I think I think that's a big if so I'm not in favor of that motion for what it's worth it doesn't make sense okay and again just so that there's no lack of clarity Madam chair it's basically adopting what is being presented here as it as being um accurate as being an a recommendation that we're making to our to our respective bodies okay any other discussion hearing none Becky please board member MC yes board member Flores no board member shayo Hernandez yes chair Coran yes motion passes thank the board very much thank you thank you um next up we have public input I will do my typical as my colleagues do starting on my left go up through the rows I imagine there are none until about row five Kathy and Jerry I please welcome you generally um I hope that you will keep your comments to three minutes but I won't uh I'm not going to be buzzing anyone off so I ask you to good morning board members um Kathy Stark I'll keep this really short um and I know you don't answer questions so what I'm asking for is at some future board meeting if you could provide some clarity on the board's position of a friends of type of 501c3 to support the shelter I understand the reasoning why the previously presented option was not acceptable and I agree with that but I didn't hear from them from that board meeting a definitive kind of Direction on establishing a 501c3 um to help support and I think most of you have seen the efforts of Dr Kyle and the amount of funds that she has raised by very generous community members every day on social media we have people stepping up and we could leverage that to help members in the community through a friends of organization for future thank you that is not off of any of our radar so thank you Gary Wheelis jpa uh last month and the month before that and I realize it's still at state level um it's approved it's we have an update for this yeah get into it then okay thank you is that that's all that's I just wanted to know yeah what the progress oh yes so we will be giving an update momentarily sorry we forgot that earlier chair board chair on board comments okay keeping on on my left no okay on my right uh please come on come on up Miss rre Dr uh Joe re R for the record Becky we're getting to be two good friends um I apologize I'm here at the invitation in part of um Clint ther uh because I had approached him to follow up on a situation that came up with a neighbors's very uh wonderful cat uh who had a poor outcome uh in an encounter with the shelter and in talking with Clint about that uh I came away with uh an understanding that he would work with staff to make certain changes to improve things and when I talked to the uh owner of the cat good friend down the street from us um I decided that it was one of these situations where the best thing was to find a way to fix something rather than to fight about it um there was some question at one point whether the owner would sue the shelter which didn't seem like it was going to be benefit any of us so I'm here to just announce that uh this is a working project um May 4th is the anniversary of my friend Tyler um an aged deaf cat who came into the shelter um by a public person who picked up not understanding who he was or belonged and because Tyler's ownership had passed from one sister to another um upon the death of one sister in the demise of the human the chip was not updated and so when the shelter staff checked the chip they hit a dead end they hit a land line that had been disconnected they had a cell phone that was not in order um eventually they did find a number to contact the sister who had inherited Tyler but by then Tyler had been put down and um there are a number of mistakes in this uh I know that Clinton the staff at ascm be are working on on their end and on the end of Tyler's owner and myself we're working on a public awareness campaign for check the Chip And to encourage people to have a date or a month in mind we're looking at June as uh for Tyler's sake check the chip and uh I've all I talked to commissioner Karan a little bit about this I've talked to uh Clint I'll be talking to um my good friend Gino himz and I'll be making friends with County folks to try and get us in on this and also with veterinarians because there's a number of ways to do Outreach and education about the importance of checking the chip both for is it functioning and what information does it lead to um we've got a lot of situations with older people where they're animals are being rehomed um as they move into facilities we've also got a situation where a lot of landlines are being disconnected or abandoned and where cell phones don't give you the same information so people need to be aware that updating is a must otherwise when a a shelter worker or somebody else in a office or in a functionary position hits a dead end um it can come up as a bad thing this this was one of the things that happened for Tyler so we're trying to fix some of that and um I'll be working with a number of you to uh outline how to do this and the way that we can do some education and get some different numbers up on the board in the coming months so check the chip um for Tyler sake and that would be June and we'll be working throughout the coming month of May to pull things together and to get an initial effort for the county so that it wouldn't just be City it would be County also thank you thank you and we are being asked to motion because the exhib a is not the exhib a right do we have to amend it though yeah I think so okay thank you Joe let me really quickly get through are there any other public comments okay um we do have some updates but I'm hearing that there that we need to that we should update the amend we should amend the motion on the budget to reflect the exhibit a that was handed out this morning not the exhibit a that was presented in the packet does that make sense yeah yes okay um so I I think we have to reopen consideration for for the action item first I would guess we have to do something like that you're I apologize you were out of my wheelhouse aspect so Mr msas if we can get a motion to amend the original motion for the budget we have to include exhibit a that was given to us today not the exhibit a that was in the packet that was originally published for the meeting is that a motion that is a motion it's a request that you just made yeah it's it's been moved that we amend the the prev vote the exhibit that was in the previous vote that we approved that we designate or point out that the exhibit a that we have been provided is the one that's included with that not the one that's published online I think the motion I think the motion would be move to substitute this exhibit for the exhibit currently in the packet I think that no no that's the other way around no you're correct that is correct that's what I thought I heard okay and so that's all it is is a mo because you're not a you're not amending the resolution you're you're all you're doing is a motion to substitute the exhibit a exhibit a that was distributed at today's meeting for the one that was previously included yes yes so I I hear a motion second and a second to revisit item 6.1 and substitute exhibit a that was provided um and that was presented I think it reflects what was presented as well that was provided to us at this time as the accompanying exhibit and approved budget for proposal to the city and county authorities any further discussion of that no seeing none please board member Maas yes board member Flores no board member shayo hernandes yes chair Kuran yes motion passes all right thank you we've gone through all of our action items and Revisited them a bit as well um chair and board comments just to talk I'll I'll start and then I'll head down but I will give a quick update on the the jpa and and subsequent things and I will also put a note um that we have a proposed Clos session um but I think we haven't collected the information that we needed to to do this closed session is that correct commissioner Shalo Hernandez yes but it's on yes Madam chair but I believe that joint session is on the um close session the Clos session is on the executive director's yes report and I just want to say that we're we're looking at postponing that because to the next meeting when hopefully there's more yeah participation so because we haven't collected all of the the information and there aren't enough folks here to to do that closed session so on that note um just the last thing on our agenda we are going to cancel that closed session and we'll notice and announce a future Clos session related to that on the on the jpa to to Jerry's question um it was approved last Friday I understand the state issued an approval for the new joint Powers agreement if you all remember a few of the highlights are that are that it moves meetings to a quarterly basis and adds community members to the board um as voting members um in that context we have work been working with our city clerk to prepare we have a boards and committees website that people can apply to um on that website we're going to use that same portal for both city and county applicants to the board uh it asks a series of questions you to submit your resume and work history um and it will also have sort of a brief description of what the board will look like but I think I'll we'll also be all promoting this in our own sort of ways to encourage people to apply via that portal it should be ready early next week for folks to submit there their packets of information and again we're looking for City and County representation and I think at a very basic level because it's all coming through one portal what we'll be doing for that we'll be filtering them if your address is in the city you will be filtered to the city council for approval if your address is in the county you'll be filtered like the I if if it's clear that you're in the county then you'll be filtered to the county but obviously people on in the city could be on the could be County Representatives as well so um we'll be looking through those as they come in to make sure that we have folks to fill the the positions each board does the appointment themselves so city appointees and county appointees um to determine who the folks will be so I think that that will also be we we'll be having an executive session an executive meeting of the of the board as it exists now I think at that what we can plan how we're going to follow up what the timeline is because the next meeting really wouldn't be for another three months of this board if the jpa is in action right now correct yeah so with a different Constitution including the community members Madam chair I would recommend maybe a couple special meetings between there to get everything cleaned up until yeah I would recommend that okay so we will keep you posted but starting early next week we'll be accepting new applicants to join the board um in its new formulation so um yeah we'll figure that out we can keep the meeting next month keep the meeting next month on the books for at least in our could we can call that a special meeting and we have it on our calendars correct perhaps so then we can figure out at that time have the applications together um review them get them to the to the to their respective governments and also plan future meetings so that people who are coming on to the board will have a calendar of when those meetings will be occurring um and we can make sure that they know that that's what's happening so uh you will see I will put on through all of my social media and send directly to you all as to hopefully share widely the the sort of solicitation for people to apply and the link the direct link to our city boards and commissions thing and we'll add we'll give it to Clinton make sure that it gets on his social media as well so um those are all the comments I have except to add to Joe's thing I think my I will probably be having a community meeting um in hopefully in June so I will add the check the chip for Tyler thing as a part of that and figure out how we can do that um as a part of it as well so uh TBD on that note but thank you for that idea and we'll be figuring out ways to to get it out there so all right I will head down the rest of the board for comments um starting with board member Beno uh just want to thank you all for your patience on the jpa um anou process and approval um I was on the verge of driving up to Santa Fe to see what was going on up there I'm happy I don't have to do that and very happy that they did approve uh the document we'll also be going through the the newly adopted mou as well for the fiscal Services uh just to uh since it that's a completely new document for us to make sure all parties understand roles and responsibilities um going forward as well but uh yes thank you all for your patience thank you for getting it in there and putting it on their desk where it's at for three months in Santa Fe um thank you again for your advocacy and ongoing work and getting that document those documents ready board member FLOTUS I uh just want to thank everybody who's here today I want to thank the Animal Service Center Director um Mr ther and Bernice and all at all but um I also want to thank uh Miss bencomo for her contributions to this board uh in so far as well everything but especially the financial aspects and um and thank you Madame chair thank you board member Shel Hernandez please um I probably shouldn't ever start a comment out with them but I'm really excited that the jpa was approved I think that's fantastic um I know that's something that we've all been waiting for the community has been waiting for but I do have to say that I am also very aware that this is a very hard board to sit on especially when it comes up to budgetary um constraints since it is a jpa with both the city and the county so making sure that we're having these meetings from now until when we get those that new board appointed making sure we're getting all the finances in order to give that those two new incoming members um some comfort level and knowing that we've fixed some of the problems that are there is going to be a huge um concern to me that we're bringing on community members and that they fully understand what is going on on this board and how we're having these conversations um especially related to the comp study and also the overall budget um so I think having more meetings now until we get to the point where we're all very comfortable from a city and county perspective to do those quarterly meetings is something that we really need to look at and I think we need to have a a larger discussion during our executive session of what this looks forward or what this looks like going forward and maybe coming up with a little bit of a transition plan as to how to onboard those two um community members as to where they're not just fed to the Wolves I mean honestly so I think we need to do a little bit more of a look on that at our executive session thank you I agree and I think we can develop a I think we have a fair number of documents that can support this and then we can sort of develop some others that would would be supportive of whoever is joining so go ahead for board thank you point of clarification please um our next meeting then would be May 23rd let's keep that on our calendar and plan it as a special session for special session you know it might not be an official meeting because now we're on a quarterly basis but but before great to thank you to sort of finalize all those things and then we'll we will have close session as well yes the one that was scheduled for today we'll also be happening at that time so it will be short and not a business meeting in the same way that that it usually is probably no reports I would say Okay um so no reports in the next one you you heard it here first um it will be no reports for me uh I I know you guys love creating monthly reports congratulations now they're officially quarterly so um so um thank you for that any other questions or comments from the board seeing and hearing none again the closed session we we are because we don't have sort of the critical mass that we had hoped of information or participants for our Clos session we're going to put that off until May um so hearing no other board and chair reports uh I would entertain a motion to adjourn so move shra Hernandez second by fles thank you we can vote with our feet thank you again Becky thank you guys for your patience and presentations e