your life. Well, good afternoon everyone. Welcome to our work session. Today is Monday, July 13, 2026. It's approximately 100 p.m. We're good. Okay. If you all rise and join me in the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands nationy and justice for all. The first thing on our agenda is to read a close uh meeting statement. Los Cusa City Council met in a closed meeting this morning, July 13, 2026, at approximately 10:32 a.m. The following were in in attendance. Councelor Harris, Councelor Mccclure, Mayor Prom Munoz, Mayor Enriquez, Councelor Kuran, City Manager, County Tamo Paya, City Clerk Christine Ribera, Utilities Director Adrien Whitmer, Assistant City Manager Sonia Delgado, City Attorney Brad Douglas, Attorney Henry Becker. We also had outside counsel from Brad Springer and Chris Deilippo. Also in the meeting from public works were Vanessa Romero, David Sado uh interim ACM of public works acting director Kyle Ardin and through teams was deputy chief of police Eric Urena. The items that we discussed were appending litigation regarding Klein Charles Maynard versus Lorenzo Tovar in the city of Los Cusus. We also discussed the pending or threatening litigation regarding Brandon Baron versus the city of Los Cusus which is closed pursuant to New Mexico State Statute 1978. We also discussed pending litigation regarding the city of Los Cruus's Donana County versus Apollo Global Management Lifeoint Health and Memorial Medical Center. Also in discussions was to discuss the purchase, acquisition or disposal of real property or water rights by the public body which is closed pursuant to NMSU. NMSU, I'm sorry. New Mexico State Statute 1978 and the meeting adjourned at 12:31 p.m. So now the first item on agenda 2.1 Los Cuso Sister Cities Yearly Update. And Karina, you're going to get us started. Good afternoon, mayor and city council. My name is Katrina Godz, the community outreach manager for the city. I'm also the city's liaison to the uh sister cities um our sister cities foundation. Uh today our sister cities will be talking about their yearly uh update from uh FY2 to uh July 25 to to June uh 26. and we'll have our president of Sister Cities, Elaine McKenna, um giving the presentation. Um Elaine has been with Sister Cities for over 30 years, so she has a lot of experience working with our sister cities. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, city councilors, Mr. city manager. Thank you for inviting me to give you an update on Los Cruus Sister Cities Foundation. On behalf of the board of directors and members of our sister cities, I would like to thank you for your support of our organization and the city's sister cities program. We appreciate the opportunity to share how citizen diplomacy and international friendships have benefited our citizens here in Los Cusus. I'd also like to introduce and recognize members of the uh sister cities organization who are present. If you would please stand. I would like to point out Ron Barunda who is our vice president of the sister cities organization. Tim Chapel who is chair of the laro sister cities committee. uh our chair of the Nimberg committee is not able to be here but I wanted to recognize these people because they have contributed and dedicated many volunteer hours to the support of our organization and to Sister Cities and we are grateful for their support. Thank you. [applause] I would like to begin my presentation today to give you an overview of Sister Cities and also the Los Cusus Sister Cities program and then I will talk more about the accomplishments of our organization this past year. Sister cities was suggested by President Dwight Eisenhower after World War II. He felt that this would help to encourage peace and understanding and international relationships between people. As a result of this, Sister Cities International, a notfor-profit nonpartisan organization, was established in 1956. Sister Cities International as a member organization is set up for individual states, cities, and counties who are wishing to partner with international communities. As a result, the network of sister cities unites tens of thousands citizen dipl diplomats over 2,000 cities and and partnerships are cities, counties and states within the US and um excuse me over 500 cities and counties with over 2,000 partnerships around the world in 140 countries. ries. So it is extensive. These partnerships are formal uh agreements between the cities, counties and states and their international partners and Los Cusus is a member of sister cities international. Our first sister city was Leo, Mexico, which we formed official relationship in 1989. There had been many trips and and uh communications back to 1982. Laro, I hope you can see it on your map in front of you, uh is located just south and east of Chihuahua. It's in the state of Durango. It's in a tri city area of Leo, Gomez, Palasio, and Torion, which is about a little over a million in population. It's about a 10hour drive from Los Cusus to Lero. So, it's quite a commitment when we decide to make a trip down there. Our second city partner city was named Berg Germany and we formed that relationship. We actually did that here in Los Cusus in 1993. It was a wonderful occasion. We were out at uh Aggie Memorial Stadium in front of probably a crowd of 20,000 celebrating that partnership's beginning. And you can see that uh Nimberg is south and east of Braymond, a little bit north and west of Hanover in the northern part of Germany. It's about a 12 to 15hour flight from El Paso over there, plus a little bit of time either by rail or by car to get to Nineburg. Both of our sister cities began as the result of student exchanges. Each partnership is more than 30 years old. We signed formal agreements between ourselves and our partner cities and began that relationship and it was recognized and is continued to be recognized by sister cities international. We also in 1992 established the Los Cusus Sister Cities Foundation. It's an incorporated organization that's nonpartisan and is a 501c3 organization. It was established to facilitate the sister cities relationship. So, we work very closely with the sister cities and with our own city here, Los Cusus. So, I'd like to tell you about some of the accomplishments that we have had in the 202526 year. It's been an extremely busy year for us. We have updated our bylaws. We have established an extensive standing rules with policies and directions on how to conduct our business. We have renewed the or the memorandum of understanding with the city of Los Cusus and we have established a service agreement. We have reestablished our communications with the city liaison and Katrina we thank her for the help and assistance she has been to us in communicating with the different areas within the city. We have created a new website. The other one was uh outdated and if you're familiar with creating websites, it is very time consuming, very involved and we're not complete yet. We're still working on improving it. However, this website gives both our members as well as anyone interested in Sister Cities a way to go out and do that search and see what we're about and then to join us in the member organization if they so choose. We have updated brochures and other documentations and initiated many activities around the community. We've had visits with our sister cities. In June 2025, we sent a delegation to Ninberg, Germany, our sister city, for celebrating their 1,000th anniversary as a city. Is that amazing or what? We were delighted that Mayor Enriquez, councelor Mccclure, uh our city liaison Katrina Gordonus were able to join that group and participate in the activities there in Nineberg to help them in the celebration. They got an opportunity to really communicate and learn about the community and the people. It was quite a celebration and part of the job that they had to do and I wasn't there to help. Sorry, mayor. But they planted a tree as a gift from Los Cusus to Neberg in honor of their 10,000th anniversary. So, it was quite a gathering over there. In November 2025, we sent a delegation to Lero to celebrate their 131st anniversary as a city and to renew our uh relationship with them because COVID and things going on. It's been it's been really difficult for us to to get that uh communication going and working together. But we sent a delegation of five and it included councelor Mccclure. We had um Dr. Jorge Martinez Rios who is the director of the Los Cusus Symphony go down also. And our gift to the city and the citizens down there was a musical program that Dr. Martinez and a colleague conducted while they were there. We also were able to sign a renewal of a friendship with Lero. Although the proposed visit from Nimberg in 2026 in October of this year has been cancelled, we're looking forward to having a visit from a delegation in 2027. We do have a small delegation that is planning to come to Los Cusus probably in August, late August to work on a horicultural project and I'll I'll tell you more about that in just a minute. But we're looking forward to having a group from Laro here in November. You'll hear about it as we get plans more formalized. As far as education and what we have done, we've been very very busy. One of our members, Greg Smith, who was a former counselor, put together a couple of presentations for us on the architecture. He presented the architecture in Neberg, which you can imagine the German architecture is quite different than here. And then the second presentation was on the architecture in Lero which is similar but there's there are differences there too but again to educate the members and the community regarding uh our sister cities. We were involved in a couple of events, National Night Out and Wheels United, where we uh met with many citizens and got an opportunity to explain and or introduce about Sister Cities here in Los Cruus. We've had seven membership drives. We've done five presentations to civic and community organizations. We've done a presentation on the local radio station KTL and we want to do more and I would ask you as people who are representing our community and involved in our community. Are there organizations that you know of that would like to learn more about Sister Cities? All you have to do is to let me know or one of the board members know and we'll be happy to go and visit with them and do a presentation and educate. I want to talk about some of our planned and ongoing initiatives. student exchanges were the basis for both of these relationships and we want to expand and in some cases to continue some of these that have over time uh not been able to be kept active. We do have an exchange program that we're working with the uh German program at NMSU to partner some of their students with students in Ningburgg who are interested in learning English. We have had an interest from both of our sister cities that would be interested in doing a pin friend exchange in elementary school. Although the students in high school don't have German programs now, we know that there's international programs and people who might be interested in those and we would like to uh promote that idea and help to introduce our high school students to other students both in Mexico and in Germany. We've been looking at art projects between the city and our sister cities, perhaps bringing uh members from those communities here for a local project. You may be hearing more about that as the the year goes on. the egg exchange that we've been I've mentioned with Laro uh very interested in this egg exchange program between the county extension office the city of Los Cusus and Laro. We're looking at a new tree that's called the yellow horn. You may not be familiar with this. It's not common here, but the yellow horn does have some strong values of water conservation. It uses and survives on six inches of water annually. Isn't that amazing? and it has a lot of medicinal as well as commercial um opportunities for economic. We're considering other programs coming up. I'd like to share with you a few of those. We want to get our link well established on the website between Los Cruus Sister Cities and the city of Los Cusus. We would like to refresh and perhaps expand the signage around the community that talks and shows the community that we do have sister cities. That's been very important as far as educating and and raising the curiosity of the community about sister cities. We would like to set up and get established a plaque for uh some marble that has been donated several years ago to the city of Los Cusus from Lairo and it's now being used in one of our public art exhibits. So we hope to get that done coming up. We're also working and hopefully we'll be able to set up a sister cities Christmas tree in the lobby here at city hall to again promote sister cities. Maybe having some special uh ornaments from each of our sister cities. So, we're working on that. We've got a lot of things that we're working for toward. We want to consider uh and there's an ongoing consideration of viable and beneficial relationships between Los Cusus and other countries and communities. It's a long process to go through, but we are open to that. We hope to pursue more of that in the coming year. As far as the leadership goes, our bylaws require the leadership, the board of directors to meet at least four times a year. There's, as I said, there's been lots to do and lots going on, and they have met 11 out of the 12 months this past year. We've had six board and committee members who have attended leadership training with Sister Cities International in Fort Worth, Texas, and also in Phoenix, Arizona. We're working to train our members to take leadership positions and to take on some of the events, the presentations, and the activities of Sister Cities. The report would not be complete without a financial report. And I have to tell you that Sister Cities is on a calendar year financial reporting basis. So I've included and started from January 1 of 2026. You can see our our uh balance of access at that time, our revenue and expenses for this six months. and then we've had an increase of approximately $5,000. So, we're ready to invest and work toward uh the community and educating the community. So, we have a lot of things in mind. In summary, I would like to say that we're working very closely with our partner cities. We're in communication via Zoom. We're attending some of their meetings. They're attending some of ours. We're communicating the planning that what's going on. So, we are in constant comment contact with them probably uh at least once a month and more and often in more cases than that where we've been in touch with people in those communities. We're raising awareness and educating both our members and the community about sister cities. We're facilitating exchanges between our sister cities and we're continuing to be financially responsible and stable. I would like to thank you again for the opportunity to speak with you today and I appreciate we appreciate the support that you have given to the sister cities program and at this time I would like to answer any questions that you may have or hear any comments that you might have about sister cities. All right. Thank you Elaine. Councelor McClure. Thank you, mayor. Uh, thanks, Elaine. The only thing I would supplement is I know you focused on student exchanges, but when we were in Laro, there was also teachers who were interested in doing exchanges. So, having a consideration of what trades can we kind of pull back and forth across various borders, various oceans would be something also to consider. and then they come back as ambassadors to their students and gives that a little bit reassurance to parents there to parents hear what that looks like and gives them new ideas then for their teaching and their trades that they could bring back. So just a supplement but that's a that's a very good idea counselor. Uh I think that that we've had some communications but we haven't solidified anything. But I think that's that's an excellent idea for a great start to introduce them to the our community here and to uh likewise maybe send a a group down to Lero. Thank you very much councelor K. Thank you so much for the presentation and I uh as Tim Chapel knows I hosted a bunch of students from Lero over uh when they when we did this student exchange at through DACC and I still am in touch with a bunch of those folks who many of whom have traveled some of them live in the states now some of them live in different parts of Mexico but it's great to be in touch with those students still 10 12 years later um from Leo that we initially met as part of that exchange um which was Great. So, I I just want to say, you know, count count me in for the hosting of students if that's where where you are or whatever kinds of things that you all need in that and supporting that relationship. Um, it was a great experience at the time and I really appreciate you all carrying the torch forward. I did have one city that I would say if if you all are thinking about other places, a place called Vadas in Ankash, Peru. It's at the base of a very large mountain range. Very, very much like here, 115,000 people. Um, diverse population, uh, long history, super interesting relationship with water. So, uh, not that you necessarily need, I'm sure you have a million places to consider, but, um, when you were talking and said like, "Oh, we're thinking of other places." That that place that I, um, have been connected to in the past made came to mind as a very close match to Los Cusus in terms of those things. So, thank you again and, um, we appreciate your your commitment. You're quite welcome. And I'll be happy to give you a card so you can send me information on that city. We are looking definitely for cities that are going to be beneficial for uh Los Cusus and it always involves a little time of courting to get to know one another and to see what we have to offer them and what their community has to offer us. So, we're looking for that strong link between communities. And I would say that councelor Karan's uh information there regarding her relationship with the the people that she has hosted and been involved with really demonstrates what happens as we interact and become friends and we get to know their culture. They get to know ours. We share things back and forth. So it's it's really important that brings a oneness to our communities and uh although we may not agree on different things, we can acknowledge and respect one another and that's what helps our international relationships. So thank you very much Mayor Pro. Thank you Mayor [clears throat] Elaine. Thank you your board your volunteers for all the work that you are doing. definitely important as um folks from from these sister cities would say tank circuit e gracias buo um another city to consider would be major Italy we'll get um I'll get your information be great as you expand to look at the city beautiful little city um near beach with um a wonderful view and uh structures that are over 9,000 years old. And as I tell the public works guys, they also have streets that are 3,000 years old with no potholes. We can learn a lot. Thank you. [laughter] No potholes. Well, I don't know. They're still standing kind of. Anyone else? No. Oh, thanks again, Elaine, for the presentation, the update. I look forward to the expansion, the growth that sister cities can do and provide. I'm looking forward to the Christmas tree decoration. Katrina's already mentioned that to me. And we can do a lot of things. And uh you're right, it's the relationship, it's the education, it's the art, it's the culture. There's so much that we can learn from each other. And uh I'll throw this one to the fire department. We had one time talked about having Laro uh fire members maybe attend one of ourmies and we could host them and and give them some training from this area. I was fortunate in Newberg to go to the police department there to their academy and the things that they do over there. It's a it's a three-year program and uh a lot to learn and things that we can learn from them as well. Absolutely. So looking forward to it. Thank you. Thank you again. Thank you so much. [applause] Next on the agenda is the Telshore Facility Fund, Leslie Doyle. Good afternoon, mayor, city council, city staff. My name is Lesie Doyle and along with my team Cynthia Alamo and Natalie Green, we are here today to present on the Telshore fund, Telshore facility fund or Telure fund. Thank you. That's why she's the best team member. So, first I want to talk a little bit about the history. While this is not an inclusive list because there's been a lot of resolutions for the Telshore fund, this is a a list that has really been impactful as it regards in in regards to the investments. So resolution 05128 established the Telshore fund in 2024 and this used one-time lease proceeds from Memorial Medical Center. We had a total amount that we received of 28.5 million. In 2004, we received 24.4 million of that. And then in 2019, we received the remaining escrow funding. In 2005, ordinance 2244 authorized long-term investments with the New Mexico State Investment Council. And then in 2007, resolution 07-378 approved for the funds to be invested into the in the investment council. 40% of the Oh, and then I'm sorry, 40% of the 10 thou of the 10 million was then allocated to be managed by the city and the remaining 14.4 was invested in the state investment council. Large cap equity 30%, small to midcap equity 20%, and then international equity 10%. Resolution 08112 lifted the moratorum on the use of the funds for health related services for a three-year period and at the time we were allocating an amount not to exceed $300,000 with a combination of Telshore fund, general fund, and any other appropriate funding sources. And then in 2013, a resolution was approved 14-105 that adopted an application and guide so that you could apply for these funding this funding and then annual resolutions to set nonprofit funding priorities throughout the years. So as I mentioned earlier, there was the city managed investments of 40% that were managed in the treasury department. You can see the rate of return that we received for those funds. I would note that as of 2025, those funds that were managed by the city were fully expended. And then the 60% that is still currently within the New Mexico um state investment council, you can see the rate of investment that we have on those funds as well. Then I did also want to show the expenditures for the Telshore fund. You can see it was flat early on and then as of 23 it did begin to increase. The budgeted expenditures of 13.7 million are not actual but they are projected and approved budget at this time. And then we also have cash investment inflows and outflows. And I understand that this is a lot of information. So there are two areas that I do want to highlight for you. The first is investment income and capital appreciation. You can see from fiscal year 20 to 26 there is a change of 1.4 million to 9.3 million that we increased. I will note that in fiscal 22 there was a significant decrease which was right in the middle of COVID. So not to be you know that's not too surprising but did want to note that that that did occur. Additionally the investment balance as of fiscal 20 was 40.9 million and now it is 53.5 million. Before I turn it over to Cynthia for her part of the presentation, I do want to note that there is a slide at the end that we are going to be requesting some direction from council on how we move forward with this investment, but want to be able to provide the full picture of everything before we have the discussion. So, with that, I'm going to turn it over to Cynthia. Thank you. Good afternoon, mayor, city council. My name is Cynthia Lamio. from the capital improvements program manager. And following Leslie's presentation, I want to give you a quick update on the most recent Telure capital allocations. These are the allocations that were authorized in the fiscal year of 2025. We first start with legacy parks. This is the first time that the Department of Parks and Rec introduced to us the concept of legacy parks. We want to be um mindful and and in a way recognize all of those city parks that have been the oldest and that we recognize that they need some maintenance. The emphasis for this first round was Apodaka and Young Park and they got an allocation of 2.5 million. Out of that we have expended about 1.4 in multiple projects. For Jung Park, there were some canopies that were replaced, but some of those expenditures were also allocated to the Young Master Plan. I'm going to come back for the Apodaka project. Then we also had an allocation of 1.9 for playground replacements and park construction. And here's where we had uh the ability to complete multiple projects. The remainder of this two set of allocation which adds up to two million will be fully allocated to the Apoaka Park aquatic playground and multi-use path. This is a very comprehensive project and some of the upcoming expenditures will be the demolition of the existing pool and then the placement of a new aquatic playground. This project also has a grant and this funding will help um close out that project to ensure that it's fully fully funded, but there might be a small gap later on. Some of the projects that have been completed with the Telshare funds includes a Pioneer Women's Park playground. From these two pictures, you can see the before and after. We next have the Gus Vakis Park playground. Another playground that needed playground replacement. Then we have East Mesa Rec Center Park Playground. So as you see the uh parks and recla several park uh park playgrounds that were needed. They also did general um projects. For example, for the Rangala T-ball field, they improve eight dugouts. As you can see for the first pressure picture, you can see how it's damaged. And you see the replace and improved uh dugout. There were all eight dugouts at Rangala and also eight at the Magiel. They also replaced and improved the steps or the seating area at the four hills park. This is right next to the b basketball basketball court. So now you can see that there's a safe area where uh anybody could just go and take a break while they're playing or just enjoy the park. The other set of projects that received telure capital allocations in 25 was facility maintenance projects. 1.1 was allocated and we have a balance of about 400,000. This projects included the park water fountains which are still in progress. The Mesia Valley Community of Hope restrooms and this is a a very important project because the restroom and the shower improvement increased their capacity of 20 showers daily to 40 showers creating a huge help for the campus. And then they also had a general facilities facilities that could be smaller projects. The remaining that they have right now will continue to be allocated to the water and fountains to ensure that project gets completed. Another set of projects that receive telshare funding is the police realtime crime center, specifically the intel and crime lab. This project is almost done. Uh the department is just working on the final punch list items which are those little remaining items and they will use the remaining balance to pay any invoice that's pending. We have the fire station 9 where 2 million was given to uh complete of a gap funding. This project is 95% completion but you will hear more details once you we have the go bond presentation. Lastly, we have 400,000 given to Creek's walnut well. And this was just a one-time um monitoring well that will just help uh utilities get more details on the condition of the water and other elements. This is a picture of the improved real-time crime center. This is a picture of the new fire station 9. But again, you will see more uh recent pictures at the goon presentation. So we now pass it to Natalie Green for additional information on past expenditures. Good afternoon Mr. Mayor, members of council, Natalie Green for the record. So in addition to health related public services, there was a number of projects funded over the years. Prior to FY22, we purchased 1101 West Amadore. That's the expansion of the community hope campus um where Amodore Crossing is currently being built. We also purchased the horse and hound property uh which now houses casinos and the future Elcalito soup kitchen and a portion of those funds were also used to renovate uh the horse and hound into the new food pantry. We also partnered with La Pinon and uh entered into a lease to purchase agreement for their building. So they are we prepurchased their building and uh are leasing them back to them until they can pay us off. Um there was also the closure of the emergency shelter. So the city worked with FYI to reopen the emergency youth shelter and funded that initiative. Um it is a now self sustaining uh project. So they just needed that initial gap fund to get going. We also piloted the Monuimano program um and started that program. And then prior to FY22, the only affordable housing investment we had was 5777,000 and that was a partnership with the Messia Valley Public Housing Authority. Other uh substantial allocations was for the humanitarian crisis and so the city was recognized as one of the 13 real life heroes. Uh we provided funding uh for um that crisis crisis during the asylum seekers uh coming to the Los Cusus area. And then during COVID, we allocated approximately 3.8 million in in various resolutions and that was uh in partnership with both city programming and then many of our nonprofit partners to stabilize the community and uh have some rapid response. In 2023 was uh really the start where we see other departments getting funded. So we had some allocations to the fire department, the transit, um some liftup initiatives and the police athletic league um the pal boxing and those were about 3.1 more recent allocations uh specifically to housing and uh neighborhood services. So we are funding the SOS program in partnership with municipal CP and then we have some annual allocations uh for the continuation of Manu Mano our street outreach program and this is the first year that we're funding security services out of the telshore fund for both community hope and the Amador crossing uh we have used the Telshore fund pretty extensively to make pre-commitments for affordable housing projects. Those pre-commitments have resulted in either match funding or reimbursement funding from the state of New Mexico. So only 11.4 million has actually come out of the Telshore fund for uh affordable housing projects. Everything else um is either reimbursed or or the state provided those funds. So we have a pretty good return on investment. So it's about a 15 to1 uh return on investment. So that 11.4 has generated 170 million. and outside investment from either equity investors or other funding sources to build um those projects. So we've have 568 new units um in multif family and then we have about 114 single family units 478 multif family units in pre-development and then uh I'll talk about in my go bond presentation but we have for the first time some renovation projects for affordable housing and so the three projects funded out of the uh telshore fund is three sisters uh peach tree phase 2 and amodor are crossing and then the healthc care uh health related public services has been funded since fiscal year 2000 2009 that was when it uh the moratorum was first lifted and this program was created and so annually uh this project has been funded by various councils. It started at 300,000 per year and then in fiscal year 19 it was adjusted to 400,000 and then in uh fiscal year 23 it was bumped up to 600,000. It is a competitive selection process conducted by the health and human services advisory committee through the uh council adopted application application and policy guide. Uh this is a graph. I apologize. I recognize it's a little bit busy, but just to show um in the blue bars is the amount of funds that were requested. In the gray bar is the amount of funds uh awarded and then the trend lines are the I'm sorry, that's the the lines and the bars are the number of applications we received or the value of applications we received. Um so early on we were getting 30 applications per year. Um it's dropped off over the years. Um and we've been able to fund about 50% of the applications that we were getting. Um you'll note in FY21 was when uh we went up to the 600,000 at the next cycle because we were getting significantly um higher requests than what we were awarding um as a community impact. So we funded 17 organizations this fiscal year. Those uh collective organizations served approximately 228,000 people. Um and some of that is duplicated or unduplicated depending on the agency. So amazing return on investment uh for service for our community. Some high level um goal or uh high level uh impact that those organizations I didn't get to put all 17 so I only did a few um but El Calito served over 153,000 meals that's both breakfast and lunch to members of our community. This year, Community Action Agency expanded their services 150% uh for their family emergency program. So, they served 940 people this year. Um, La Pinon is uh with Telor Fund served 344 survivors of domestic violence and sexual assault. Um, part of their building purchase also allowed for the expansion of other forensic exams. So they're able to do forensic exams for child abuse cases and domestic violence cases. Um so that in improves the conviction rate for those um services. Boys and Girls Club um has been saving families approximately a million dollars a year in child care expenses and so they're a very high impact youth development program. Uh this year, Community Hope through their soore, which is their expedited uh social security program, uh served 155 people. And so by allowing uh helping a person access those uh social security programs, there's a return on investment of almost $12,000 back into the local economy, especially if they get housed and are covering their rent. And then this year uh Roadrunner Food Bank is serving um about 656 thou uh households a month and that's includes uh 1100 children um per month with food services and then many of the agencies also sent me other um goals and objectives but I I know they're in the audience so they can speak to their programs as well if I missed them. Some recommendations or considerations around the HRPS program. Uh, one, we want to evaluate the HRPS committee. Um, again, there's only three members on that committee. It, um, usually requires seven. So, in order for it to be a robust, um, award selection process, and we really need a full committee, uh, and for them to evaluate and score those applications. This year is the first year. Um, we're recommending moving to two-year service agreements. So, our service agreements uh because we fund this every um two years, we'll do a one-year service agreement with an option for renewal. So, that'll eliminate the need to come to rewrite service agreements every year. Um we also want to work with the committee over the next year to review the application and guide. Um there was a request from one of the agencies to consider uh electronic submissions. So, we may look at that again. Also evaluate the award amounts. So adjusting those minimums and maximums. Um considering changing the presentation format so all nonprofits have to present to that committee. Um so as part of that evaluation figure out if uh those presentations are still um valuable to that committee or or figure out a different format for that. And then uh from the nonprofits I did hear the desire to maintain those equitable distributions. I know there was some commentary about each agency as part of HRPS getting the same dollar amount. Um, so their feedback is they wanted to keep that. Um, I will now pass it back to Lesie to uh start us off with our discussion. Thank you, Natalie. So, as promised, we are we have the opportunity now to look at the future outlook and investment strategy for the Telshore fund. All of our current all of our Telshore fund is currently held in investments at the New Mexico State uh investment council. And I would point you to the chart that has an investment balance at in fiscal year 26 of 53 million. It is important to note that we started with 24 million as an initial investment and then all of the things that both Cynthia and Natalie have talked about and that we have been able to, you know, impact the community with and we still have a significant investment. So, I think it's important to note that. But what we need from council is guidance on what to do with the investment because it is not liquid. So, we don't have the cash that we need. So should we withdraw the entirety of the investment and invest it locally here at the city or sell investments as needed and then as the expenses occur we can you know sell the investment to get the cash in order to do that you know we had because there is such a good rate of return you saw earlier we've been really hesitant to to sell that because the the rate of return is really good so um I do want to keep that in mind as part of the discussion Additionally, it is a large, you know, a large investment. I am not a financial adviser and would like perhaps the opportunity to consult with a financial adviser to help them look at the allocations that we currently have as well as any changes that we might be able to make that we could increase our return on investment even more. And then also from council, what is the future spending plan so that we do know how we can invest what that future investment strategy depends on how council intends to to expend the funds. So th that's the the guidance that we need from council at this point is how to move forward. All right. Thank you Leslie. Councelor Kurin, thank you um as always for your presentation. Cynthia and Natalie too. Um I uh just at a very basic level, the if I remember the last time we had this conversation, the state investment council only promises like a 2% return or something, don't they? Like I don't know what they if or if they suggest I know it's like 2,000 investments and it's a it's a very like complicated thing. But my sense from before when we were talking about this, which was not one of the double-digit return years, um was that they were really bullish in how much investments in the state investment council would bring in and it's obviously overperforming like all uh investments, most investments at this moment are. Um I'm wondering I don't think that that's going to be a forever I don't like I know that you're not you just said you're not a financial adviser. I don't think 10% is a reasonable return to expect on any investment in any market except this exact moment. So I'm curious if you think what is the definite amount of return on investment that we could expect for whatever we keep in the state investment council. And then to me that's a very important variable in whether or not we leave things there or not. I I my tendency it's produced a lot of money is to leave as much as we can and to make liquid only the things that we um need as they go along. But I'm curious if you can talk a little bit about that uh because obviously our our return on investment and when we had the money wasn't as good but the market was also different etc etc. So can you talk a little bit about that speculatively please? Yes, U mayor, councelor Karan, I would agree that 10% is not something that is probably sustainable over a long period of time. As far as what the state investment council, you know, guarantees or I'm not familiar with that. I I've never heard of them guaranteeing a certain rate of return. So, I'm going to have to do a little bit of research to see if that is in fact the case. But I I guess just to put a finer point on on what you said, 10% is not something that I would expect year-over-year for multiple years, but we also did, you know, do better with this investment than we did internally. So, thank you that I I know it's too much to it's a lot of speculation, but I appreciate your insight and it's sort of what I guess I'm I imagine I shouldn't have said guarantee. I don't I don't mean that. I think we just talked about like what what can we expect under all conditions over overall and I'm wondering if you can go back to that um graph really quickly. Sorry. Um, so yes, for me this this is just a wild return on [snorts] investment slide that I do think we should hire a financial adviser to help us with frankly because this is not re real or like very hard to establish something or expect something. But um I guess I would say I would my recommendation would be one that we do not take that we take out what we need and keep the state investment the money with the state investment council um while we're still figuring out what to do with the rest. And I also would say I I do acknowledge that holding like holding on to a rate of return like this, we're a city entity. We're here to help people. We're not here to make money. So I think for me fundamentally that's one of the things that I think is really important in this. But I do think we should balance those two things by keeping some money in investments and spending it as the liquidity goes on. So thank you. And again I I support fi hiring a financial adviser if we're going to take it all out and give it to the city. I would hope we would hire someone from the state investment council I guess to help us figure out what to do with it. But I it seems like this is a pretty good place to keep our money. Thank you, Council Muller. Thanks, Mayor. Um, I I guess I'm going to supplement a little bit what Council Karan said. Um, and maybe kind of um highlight where I think on money. It's one of those sort of lucid things that in my life um what what are we saving for? And I think one of those questions too is when when you talk to lay people and they say, "Oh, we have billions of dollars in our coffers in the state." and we're saving it for a rainy day and people feel like it's raining. So, I I am also of the mindset of yeah, get a financial adviser because I like people who do this for a living. It's not going to last forever like this, right? Can we leverage for things where it is actually raining? I'm thinking of we have a um a heat wave, the library is a cooling station. Can we pay for what we're saving in those hours for the Sunday library through this? Right? Things that are actual immediate needs. I would say too like if we're if we have projects like the MRA and we can supplement say the Boys and Girls Club too to see that we build that catalyst there that people see a future that they want to live in. Right? That's that's where I'm always focusing on these couple of things where it's we're making things happen now is kind of where I've always been focused on as well. So, but I also I'm not a financial person. So, I I want to I want to say that we are doing this in a responsible way. Um we do need to have more people on that committee like Natalie said as well to have sort of those robust com conversations, right? because need sometimes does change and focus might change sometimes and I think that is that's a hard conversation to have and we should have those with people who are invested in that and have the background to have that conversation and know a little bit more than perhaps some of us on council my I'll speak for myself and not council at that point. Thank you, Councelors. Um, thanks, Mayor and Lesie and Natalie for the presentation. Um, it was as as someone who's relatively new and has been vaguely aware of the Telshore fund for a long time. This was all very enlightening. Um, I guess I also agree that State Investment Council seems to have had a pretty good return. Um, that is obviously a lot um to continue to expect forever, but we've got it right now. And I say we we write it as long as possible. Um, so, you know, I I think keeping it here, selling it as needed to have liquidity to pay out the contracts that we've got. Um, does I think that's that's the course now and that seems like a reasonable course for the future. Um, I'm not sure that we could do better as a city. Um, I guess the state has already has financial adviserss and people whose sole job it is to keep this fund uh going for for all the municipalities. So, you know, hiring hiring our own people and trying to do this in house um will might not be as disastrous as when I try to pick my own stocks. Um but you know probably we're it seems like we're getting we're getting decent rates here. Um as for spending priorities um I worry I I too worry about like what's going to happen when this money is gone. And so you know we started with 24 we've got 30 right now. So we're doing pretty good. Um, but I also don't want us to get into a situation where we spend it all and then organizations that have come to rely on a yearly distribution of $600,000 of that money don't have it anymore. Um, at the same time, if we could spend it all on some magic wand and then solve all of the problems and then we don't need that in the future, um, that would be great. But I don't think that's the case. Um, so that's that's what I want to be careful on drawing it down is, you know, maybe not drawing it down for operational type expenses, um, but keeping in mind that there there are projects that can leverage a lot more money like what Natalie was presenting on. if we can use it as matching funds um you know we can get a 60% return on investment if we use it as matching funds you know if you want to think of it that way um so see if I had any other specific questions um I guess another just concern that I'll throw out and I hope that the NMSIC is thinking about it is a and also it's related to us managing it ourselves. Um there are some pretty unstable forces in the current uh uh market right now and I just want to make sure that we're not exposed to that as much as possible although I know some of the exposure is being forced by forces beyond our control. So those are my thoughts for now. Thanks Matis. Did you council Matise? Uh Natalie, how is the corpus? How close are we to go getting into the corpus? The original amount? Mayor, councelor Matise, the corpus was about 28 million. And if we expend all of our 27 budgeted expenditures, our ending balance would be 30 million. So, give or take two million. Okay. Before we begin to utilize the court, I I agree with councelor Harris. I'd like to see that at least not, you know, touched. And of course, we could make more money and still do all the good deeds that we're doing. And I realize Miss Green has some even payments coming back to the Telshore fund from some loans. So, it looks positive that there it could go to 35, maybe 40,000. And I'd like to see that happen. I I think it's good that the uh the city has a um another reserve just besides the 212s and then you could guarantee the 600,000 a year to the nonprofits and and that would be for perpetual. That's the way it was designed. you know, was designed that uh it just wouldn't be expended totally and then you don't have 600,000. It could go maybe to a million in a couple of years if interest rates and return of investments are good. But but I would like to see that uh that bundle preserved and then all the good deeds come out of the you know the interest uh rather than than the corpus. And if there's even a little extra, you know, that's just smart investment on on our part. So that that would be uh that would be my direction. Thank you, Mayor Proto. Thank you, Mayor um councilors. Thank you um for putting the presentation together. Leslie, so my thought um as we look into this is is definitely we do need, you know, subject matter experts um and we look to towards you and and other experts that we have around the state. um at the point of time that that we're in today and I think um councelor Mccclure uh mentioned this you know rainy day fund we talked about the rainy day fund from the state level um and you know it's it's someday rainy day you some there's there's no someday on the calendar right um I I know that when my son was little we would say oh save cookie for a rainy day and it's oh mom and dad it never rains in Las Cruises, right? Um we're we're kind of at a at a junka position right now um where people have food insecurity, people need food. Um we're stressed out about affordability. And so as we look at at some of these projects, I'd like to hear see a needs analysis of the organizations we're supporting um to see where the needs are. If if I look at at at I think it was page 19 or 26, we're funding half of what people what organizations are asking for. You know, if we invest um anemically, we'll probably get anemic results. Um, and that's not it's not that's not what we want to do to to be effective and to govern effectively and to help people out effectively. So, I would say let's um let's look at with our subject matter experts what we can do. Let's look at the organizations um and the folks that we're supporting and prioritize where we can see um some positive impact. Um, and that rainy day, I mean, it's it's it's here. It's here. As a state, we are doing well financially if we wait to spend that money in the future. You know, those that, you know, 310 billion uh will be less in the future if that makes sense because of uh inflation and just cost of goods that you know will continue to increase year-over-year. So, I would suggest um that that we do that and um see where we can prioritize and see where we can most effectively spend our our uh resources. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Council Ray. Sorry, this is just a quick followup on that conversation. The I think that the time that we talked about this prior was when we talked about the 300 and then the 400 and then the 600, which I think I was I was on council at that time. I wasn't there for the other two conversations, but that was the interestbased amount that came from the corpus um at that time roughly. I think that's what we made that decision based on. I'm not a thousand% sure, but um my memory of our conversation about that was that the interest was performing outperforming what we had been awarding and so we were sort of amassing a lot of money. um $53 million um at some point in time. And so I'm just curious if that's still reflective sort of to Mayor Promos's question if that's still reflective of the amount of sort of expected interest profits. sounds like it's a little bit less than what we would expect and if we if that's something else that we should reconsider as part of the of the conversation is what in addition to two-year contracts which I also hope we can do with the agencies and reduce the administrative burdens for the small amount of money that we're actually giving each organization. Um I would wonder if it's possible to expand that amount to to something else. So that would I guess is a question sort of for future consideration or if you know better I'd love to hear it. Mayor Councelor Karan I I guess for clarification do you mean just interest or do you also mean the appreciation of the investment? That's what I don't really remember how we decided how we arrived at $600,000 and that's the part that I'm not completely sure of. I think I think that was just the interest the the expected interest, not the appreciation that's happening at a different rate than we would expect. But um but I'm not 100% sure of that. I just wanted to clarify where that measure came from. And then the money that we've taken out recently came from us having this conversation, which is it is raining. We have $53 million that we're sitting on. We need to address essential services that we have in the discussion of 26 and 27. But I guess um the 600,000 uh question is one that I also would like to know more about. Um if you can share. Yes. Uh Mr. Mayor, councelor Karen. So uh the 600,000 increase in uh between FY21 and FY22. And if you recall in the presentation at that time, we were not using the Telshore fund for any of the other um department or operational programming. Um so that was the consideration of the council at the time was uh there's an increase in need for nonprofits. Let's increase the uh the annual allocation and we're able to fund more nonprofits. Um since then we've seen um the tailshore used for capital improvements um some of these allocations, the parks facility maintenance. So we're seeing that um investment go down and then for affordable housing the 11.4. Um, so I guess that that would be possibly also part of the discussion is um, if I'm hearing council correctly, we want to see the continuation of the HRPS program for nonprofits at a possible increase if the interest allows it and also these one-time sort of instrumental significant projects like Boys and Girls Club or capital improvements. That is that what I'm hearing from council? That's what that's what I'm try I think I'm I'm saying and I'm sort of hearing in councelor Muos but like I know that I understand that this FY26 and FY27 is not a sustainable model for how we're spending the money. Like I think we we I think you're trying to convey that to us and I think we understand that. So in that context I think um understanding what the future plan is is what you're wanting us to talk about. So yes, from my perspective, you summed up what I'm what I'm getting at. And uh I do have a desire to reduce this this that we're doing related to the transfers for big projects. Um if we can or if we can leverage in ways that we can, I I am here for that. Uh but I also think that the nonprofits uh are serving thousands, hundreds of thousands of people and and I think if we have enough money to give them more, I would ask that we do and I think that can be a discussion we have with the financial advisor. Yeah, I'll defer to Lesie on that one. Yes. Thank you, Council Matise. Yeah, I I think Natalie um if you if you maintain the corpus, you know, if you keep at least 28 million, then you if you're investment is getting 8 to 10% a year, can we use that figure or uh 7% what figure? What percentage you want to use? I would love to use 10%. I'm just not sure that it's real estate. Isn't it going to go crazy here? Interest rates. No. Okay. What do you want to use? 4 percent, 2%, 3%. Mayor, councelor Matise, I think a four to 5% rate of return is is probably more reasonable than what we Okay. So, let's say 4% on 30 million. You know, you have 1.2 million that you'd be earning. You know, it looks like from what's happened over the last 8 to 10 years, we've had so many rainy day uh rainy days, we we spent almost 22 million Correct. I mean that went from corpus of 28 to 54 and in the last uh 8 five seven years you know it's been 4 million here 2 million there a million there 2 million another and now we're down to 30 30 million and and so we we have to be careful of just doing these rainy day ideas again for the next five or six years and we just we'll be down to zero because you We spent 22 million pretty fast. And so I I I'd like to see the council secure that corpus. You know, don't don't by ordinance by by a consensus, by something, but don't don't go below 28 million. And then you guarantee the 600,000 to a million a year for these nonprofits. So you could rate, you know, you could go from 600,000 to a million if you have at least 28 million. But if you have 10 million or 5 million or zero, then you have nothing. You have zilch. You have zero for those nonprofits. So that that's just my uh my statement. All right. Thank you, Leslie. I [clears throat] just want to say I'm in favor of keeping it as it is and then with the contract of a financial advisor or financial expert I would definitely be in favor of that not only to look at this fund but also what is one of our dilemmas that we're facing here at the city is our expenditures and our revenues and I know there's a couple of committees so you going to take the time to get a financial advisor let's get someone that can also look at that and and help our budget overall. So, we're deciding whether to spend or not to spend with the telshore fund. Uh the other thing is keep it as is, but if a crisis or an emergency, then we can always bring it to council and see how how we look at those things. I know we spent a lot of money quick, but it wasn't just a rainy day. It was also over the course of years of things that were neglected and needed to be uh kept up or redone and and it's costly and we know that. But uh the the other thing is future future spending plans is um I think that's something that is ongoing but right now we do have our strategic plan in process. So that's a tool that we should be able to use and again give that information to the fin financial advisor as time goes on. These are some of the strategic plans that are going on with the city uh with the organization with the community. And we've also got another survey and strategic plan on homelessness, mental health, and substance abuse that's going on. Once those are completed, we get a better idea, a better view of which direction we want to head and where we want to start spending some money for the betterment of the community. Thank you, mayor. If I may, just make sure that I'm understanding council's direction correctly. We're all in agreement that a financial adviser is the direction we want to go. Additionally, we want to keep the investments to the extent that we can in the state investment council and sell as needed for liquidity. And then finally, we want to make sure that we keep the corpus whole so that we can continue to provide those annual allocations for the nonprofits. Did I understand that correctly? Yes. Yes, I think we're in agreement with that. Great. Thank you. Okay. Thank you, Liza. Next on the agenda is the geo bond quarterly update. Thank you. Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. Uh, for the record, Kyle Arn with public works. We're here to do the probably the last remaining update on the 2022 Go Bonds. [music] Of course, there were four original questions that were approved by our citizens. Uh, new fire station number nine, continued improvements at East Mesa Public Recreational Complex, affordable housing and park improvements. We'll be we won't be presenting in that order. First project, fire station number nine. Uh, total project uh costs for that were a little over $12 million. Just under nine uh 10 million of it would go bond funds. Total construction costs a little over $11 million. That project is about 95% complete and they are racing towards a completion of mid August next that would be next month. Here are some they more recent pictures of the improvements there at fire station number nine. Uh they've been working feverishly on the interior to get uh all the furnishings uh sorted out. They're also working on the concrete out front for the entrance and exit for the fire fire station vehicles. And it looks a lot like the rendering uh that was presented years back. As you can see from the schedule, uh this project started back in the fall of 2024 with construction. Um and again, we'll be racing towards completion for next month. park improvements. Uh just under $2 million. Uh a lot of that went to La Lona park improve park improvements that included a new restroom uh and [clears throat] some uh playground infrastructure ADA improvements as well. Construction costs uh 1.67 million. Uh that's approximate. We're still wrapping up a few loose ends. Uh other than uh a little bit of dealing with uh the final permitting, uh that project is complete. We expect to have the final permit issued uh for occupancy in the next two weeks um and get the restroom open here at the end of July. With some of the remaining funding that was left over from that go bond, uh the intent is to use it to buy additional playground equipment equipment for Tel Brook Park. And here's some recent pictures of the improvements at La Lama Park. We have the new restroom on the bottom left, the shade structures, and the play structure. And again, that should be done here in the next couple weeks. East Mesa Public Recond of course of $4.9 million uh paired with lots of other funding as well as this GRT PIFF. Um that project was completed. You had the we've been cutting on it back in June. And here is the picture of the new basketball courts. Um and they still look that blue. They're actually really quite striking when you drive by take a look at them. I've also been out there several afternoons to look at the playground structure. Uh, but I have not been able to go down the slide myself because it's always full of children. Maybe I'll go out there early in the morning so nobody can see me. And with that, I'll hand it over to Natalie. Good afternoon again, Mr. Mayor, members of council. Natalie Green for the record. Uh, so an update on affordable housing projects. Peach Tree Canon phase one is 99% leased up as of when I did this uh PowerPoint last week. So, I'm pretty sure it would have gotten leased up by this week. Um and then I just wanted to give an update on the weight list. Um we have a pretty sizable weight list for housing on the East Mesa. So, over 542 applicants um across both one, two, and three bedrooms. Uh Peach Tree phase 2 is well under construction. So, they're getting ready to open uh one of the farthest buildings in the next couple months and then their goal is to open a building a month um thereafter. So, the full facility should hope hopefully be open um in early 2027. And so, they have put uh the multi-use path. They are doing a different color scheme in phase two than they did in phase one. Um greens happens to be my favorite color. So I was pleasantly surprised to see green cabinets. Arcadia phase two, Arcadia number four is a single family subdivision. It is 100% complete. Um so we're currently working on a disposition resolution. So you will see that uh come to council. So it is ready for single family construction. So um both del and habitat for humanity are ready to hit the ground running and pull permits and start construction on housing. Uh Skylark's subdivision is working on project closeout. Uh so there's some final details they're working out with El Paso Electric. Um as soon as they have uh that completed, they'll finalize uh the roadways and those lots will be uh permit ready. Uh Amodore Crossing is moving along. Um in this picture you can see uh the masonary and brick work going on. They've done the roof. Uh these are some of the sample colors that are the popouts. uh from the rendering that council may recall. Um so they're really working on um the exterior weather proofing uh the EPA system. They've started site grading the del lane went in. Um so you'll start to see uh some some significant progress in these final months. Um other projects uh Pelos Ves is uh has hired their contractor. So they're uh moving forward with their closing. Um they're telling us end of July. I think August is more realistic and then they'll start their construction date. Uh we have some other projects in pre-development. So Rural Crossing um I'm hoping to share some news with you soon on that project. Uh residents on Soma near Fire Station 9 is looking to move forward. Um and that's an additional 90 units. And then we are working with a number of partners. So, uh, Pacos Veres phase two is again with, um, the housing authority and then hopefully, uh, with Thomas development who did the Padrina, uh, property art space, um, has reached out and they're in and pre-edevelopment for their project. And then I also wanted to give a quick update on the downtown RFQ. So, we did get five submissions uh, for that project. Uh the committee interviewed uh two of those developers and we've selected uh the winning developer which is TWWG and so they will be reaching out um to hear some of your desires and needs for that parcel and then they'll be doing a site visit. So we'll be coordinating that with you shortly. And then I'm really excited to talk about um a neighborhood a liftup project in neighborhood one. um they are working. So when we did that neighborhood one, we identified an affordable housing project that uh was very old and needed quite a bit of improvement. And so they have reached out to us and they have asked us um to be the bond issuer for that project. So it's very similar to an IRB. So we're working with economic development. um that 4% um bond will will renovate the entirety of the Donana Parks apartments. Um so for those counselors that have been here a while have known that that has been um a high traffic, high hot spot for some of our uh public safety personnel. So we're excited to see that um project get a facelift. And then there's another project that's also um getting renovation. the city, they were able to do it without any uh financial um commitment from the city. And so, uh you'll see Montana Meadows in District 2 also getting a facelift over the next uh year or so. Um so, with that, uh Kyle and I will stand for questions. Councelor Harris. Um thanks, Mayor. And I think this question is well for both of you maybe. Um so when we're doing like the Arcadia 4 and Skyark developments um I know I've mentioned many times a dig once utilities policy. Um do we have any leverage to like make sure that all the utilities are put in and we're not going to dig up new sidewalks during those those two since they are kind of city-owned. We are still preparing the dig one policy and we prefer to implement it in many ways possible but it doesn't actually uh fully exist uh just yet. Each utility has their own right to bring in the utilities um based on their schedules and their funding abilities. Okay. Um, it would be cool if we could do as much as possible to I mean they're they're city-owned parcels, so it seems like an ideal time and and a model time to do it, but um so whatever whatever we can do policy-wise up here, but I don't I don't know how much that is. Yeah, definitely as far as coordination um for these projects and I think Natalie would agree that uh we always strive to do that. Um it just we're not always able to completely enforce it. Sure, understand. Um, and then yeah, I guess my last comment, um, I'm a huge fan of EFIS, so cool. I'm glad it's going on Amador Crossing, and it's really hot outside, so that's going to be relevant going forward. Council Matis Natalie, could you could you share some of the uh like the twobedroom, onebedrooms and the different housing what the rent is is right now the the rent or leases currently? Um good question. Let me pull it up on my phone. One sec. I just, you know, want everyone I mean maybe people listening will just jump up and say great. Uh the rents are sent annually by um the tax credit. Uh just hold it up. And so they just changed Mom, do you know what they are? [snorts] Sorry, let me have to click through a bunch of folders to get the rental chart. Um, in the meantime, so the the rents really vary depending on the funding source. if you guys will recall the the cheeseburger and so if it is uh a tax credit and they are at 60% AMI the that's the wrong community and county cusus area a one-bedroom at 60% AMI is 874 and a twobedroom is at 1050 if they happen to be in a 30% unit then a onebedroom is 437 and a two bedroom is 525. And then we have some lowome units in some of the projects uh which is capped at 50% AMI and that's a 728 for a onebedroom and an 875 for a two-bedroom. And then just to add some extra complication to the cheeseburger, if they happen to have uh a housing choice voucher, then the rents are typically at the payment standard um for the housing authority. And so that's like a 1040 and I can't remember what the bed one bedroom is, but the just adds an extra. I can send the chart though. Okay, thanks. Um I will add though for Peach Tree. So um our three bedrooms are at uh 1212 and there is a private development around the corner from there that's their three bedrooms are running about 2200 to 2600. So we are still substantially below the market rate of housing. Anyone else? Okay. Thank you, Kyle. Thank you, Natalie. And that was the last uh item on the agenda. Motion to adjurnn. Move to adjourn. Second. [clears throat] This is on the motion to adjourn the work session. Councelor McClur. Yes. Councelor Matise. Uh, mayor, there's no public discussion, no public comments. No. Okay. Yes. Councelor Harris, yes. Councelor Bencoml is absent. Councelor Karan, yes. Councelor Munoz, yes. And mayor, yes.